The Lament of the Bigfoot | Frankly 74

[@bill8985]

This episode was beautifully spiritual. I grew up in a rural part of the east coast - and running through the woods as a kid was the best feeling in the world. Discovering little spring ephemeral wildflowers, orchids, mushrooms, berries, old snags with owl and wood duck nests... Spotting a fox with her kits or a possum lumbering along... Those memories are worth more than a chest of gold.

[@anthonytroia1]

@@bill8985 orchids ❤️

[@williamturner-v1s]

Nate's philosophy is that beyond extreme individualism nothing can be done. It basically amounts to "use the law of attraction" or the "secret". It's Oprah Winfery good feeling stuff for the highly educated. Political engagement is something Nate has explicitly said is pointless, so (beyond being hypocritical and silly) ) that means he is really just interested in building his personal brand and retaining his current economic status, nothing is better for that then spiritual fluff. For all the hard realist that Nate attracts they sure seem to have trouble seeing through the obvious. Every solution he promotes at the end of this video will only work with massive state intervention . Most people aren't land owners that can change their little plot to be environmentally friendly through a change of consciousness.

[@anthonytroia1]

@@williamturner-v1s Maybe let Nate speak for himself, idk 🙍

[@robertgulfshores4463]

Super good. Thx Nate! Love the poetry, oh yes. I'm collecting spiders now from inside my home, and I thank them for their work, and relocate them into my garden. Gone are the days when I kill them out of fear or ignorance. And I mist up, like a broken child sometimes, looking upon a bumblebee on a native flower. These days, I just want to find a way to help, to use less, much less, and not just that, but to contribute to life, to rewilding, to re-wetlanding, reforesting, regen ag, etc. I want, deeply want, to be a +++ for life here. No more ---

[@milosglisic6118]

Thanks for this. Great positive thoughts on what humans can be in the ecosystem. We should be the gardeners and stewards of the Earth!

[@buddyneher9359]

"We're going to have to use less - all the rest is details." And we're going to have to share more poetry! I loved both poems you shared and look forward to your forthcoming additional thoughts.

[@jessieadore]

That was beautiful. Thank you for sharing 🌙

[@john1boggity56]

I just sent Mary Oliver's poem to my lovely wife who has just finished a week camping on a remote island off the coast of Tasmania. She had some difficulty coming back into the mindless commerce of Hobart and she'll struggle even more flying into Sydney this afternoon.

[@kieranaland4724]

Thank you Nate, for sharing your intellect and doing this good work.

[@jenniferreinbrecht7125]

Your willingness to be open and vulnerable, along with your ability to synthesize the big picture of the human and planetary condition, models the strength, courage, struggle and pain of this time in history..... Over and over it helps to know i am not alone.

[@RobertaKimmins]

Thank you Nate. This is a wonderful Frankly. I loved the poetry and the whole episode really resonated for me

[@mvondoom]

loved your poem, Nate, it made me cry.

[@edwardenglishonline]

You ARE VERY GOOD at synthesizing THE IDEA of WHAT MUST BE DONE as a "species" ‼️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@treefrog3349]

"It is time for a species level conversation" you averred, good Mr. Nate Hagens. For me, the Great Simplification is EXACTLY THAT! I have never heard such insightful commentary anywhere across the media spectrum. I will be grateful for your efforts until my last human breath. But again, your noble efforts, stand in stark contrast to that "mainstream" spectrum. I weep while I fade.

[@mai_8j888]

I can't say where I heard or read this exactly but I believe there are in fact quite a few Native American legends about Sasquatch. Of course, this runs against the dominant materialist paradigm so this knowledge would tend to be discounted by academia. Like to add as well, your poem brought a tear to my eye as, if not Bigfoot exactly, other species as well as even humans who have been "othered", for example Native or besieged peoples might very well feel exactly the way you describe in your poem. Thank you for this lovely episode.

[@thegreatsimplification]

my brother has informed me that this is in fact the case - I didn't know and stand corrected..🙏♥🌎

[@ninga1154]

Nate that was awesome

[@RodBarkerdigitalmediablog]

Loved the poems Nate - thanks for sharing your journey. The interconnectedness of living and non-living things, how amazing. Awe, humility and gratitude are key to day-to-day wellbeing. This is a daily practise. The conversations, the shared feelings, the dreams, the possibilities yet to unfold. The coloured feathers of birds, the magic of flight and song. The gleaming sun on the sea, sands shifting with shells and jellyfish mixed in. Restoring our catchments restores us - the reciprocity of life, a gift we can return. This value imbedded within us - in all things throughout the universe. "We are here to awaken from our illusion of separateness." - Thich Nhat Hanh

[@Raqposus]

We are too much, we consume too much, we destroy too much, immersed in our egocentrism, narciism and greed. The world is increasingly finite, we are stupidly and inevitably heading towards extinction.

[@TCRgalaxy]

Completely hopelessly intractably existentially doomed🪦🌎🪦

[@yoshuadavid]

Hear hear. Let's do things we find ethical for the sake of it, not because we'll 'save' the living world

[@robertcurtin-de7sr]

Look at what is currently happening across Latin America!!! Homo sapiens are inflicting ecocide on a grand scale and only a small minority actually give a shit!!! The Biosphere will bounce back over time but only after the Super Organisim crumples into chaos and anarchy and the population of humanity is severly reduced. Then maybe those who remain will actually create a better civilization!!!!!!

[@nobody.special23]

I appreciate you.

[@BruceMeder]

One of your best Nate.

[@brtjohns]

Indeed we can find inspiration from everyone and everywhere if we truly listen and observe. You mentioned people becoming vegetarian or vegan due to principle. Many are resistant to embrace that lifestyle because they dont want to feel constrained or alienated. Well, the premise of this video reminded me of why I'm indebted to the vegan movement and have quickly struck a friendship with vegans, yet I'm not one. About a decade ago its advocates spurred me to reflect on what I was giving money to and supporting as a consumer. My development in principled consumption and living intentionally started there with simply listening and analyzing their content, which inspired a curiosity and motivation to continue learning about the reality of not just how industries function but the whole Earth and web of life, among other topics. As I continued to seek out that education, the TGS channel emerged to me. Ever since I've benefited financially, mentally, physically and transformed spiritually. Even though I see the overall tenets of veganism fundamentally flawed with the Earth, vegans and I are far more alike than different, including extensive overlap in your mentioned code of ethics. You dont have to shape yourself in the same mold as others; you just have to care, listen and do whats sensible for your own body, situation and surroundings. Make the genuine best of it as you gain knowledge and develop a responsible lifestyle your conscience tells you is right. Optimize yourself as a human and a consumer. Just remaining traditional and stagnant in the shallow convenience of doing what you've always done and knowing what you know yields a similar shallowness of benefit, if any at all, for yourself as well as everyone and everything impacted by your choices.

[@juliamaxwell9291]

Your organization structure is great. I love seeing it written out like that. It helps me envision where to get to work. Thanks for another great frankly, Nate.

[@davehendricks4824]

Years ago I was in central Florida. My son and I went to a park. There was a large sign at the beginning of the trail. It impressed me so much, I took a picture of it and told my son, “ I’m going to recreate that sign in the small woods on my property”. It’s been standing there for 3 years. It’s called THE PRAYER OF THE WOODS. You can find it on the internet.

[@xthun]

Found it: I am the heat of your hearth on the cold winter nights, the friendly shade screening you from the summer sun, and my fruits are refreshing draughts quenching your thirst as you journey on. I am the beam that holds your house, the board of your table, the bed on which you lie, and the timber that builds your boat. I am the handle of your hope, the door of your homestead, the wood of your cradle, and the shell of your coffin. I am the bread of kindness and the flower of beauty. If you love me as I deserve, defend me against the fools.

[@dalebirononpoetry]

Nate, two poems in one Frankly... Yes, of course, I loved this episode, but for far more than the poems, though I appreciated both. I loved Nate that a natural response for you, twenty years ago, was to reach for poetic language to help you understand more fully, your heart. To overhear yourself saying what you didn't know you knew. Surely this way of story (discovery and telling) will be increasingly critical when it comes to the "Change in Consciousness" portion of this work. This is the part where my own life's work comes tumbling onto the scene...

[@DeryaEmel]

hi Nate, tnx for doing this podcast. i learned alot from you and your guests, keep up the good work Derya

[@truepatriot6388]

Natural spaces have Syntropic flow (the pattern of Life). When we are within them, our mindset shifts from left to right, from focused attention to expanded awareness, from engagement with the entropic flow of deterministic potentiality and utility to savouring the syntropic flow of mysterious possibility and the sacred. Now, this shift is partly in our head, a literal shift in which half of our brain is in charge, but it is mostly outside us in the Real world. Recilinear man-made spaces, like buildings and cities full of technology, are dominated by Entropic flow, and so will pull us to the left-brain's entropic mindset. This helps us navigate that space. In a forest, we are pulled to the right. We shift from feeling the loneliness of being the only conscious agent walking through a dead world to feeling wonder and welcome toward the many intelligent and beautiful beings all around us. We are drawn in to the enchanted and the poetic. Thanks for sharing this, Nate.

[@anthonytroia1]

Have you read any of Christopher Alexander's work?

[@TheFlyingBrain.]

Hey, brother Nate. (Of course you love Mary Oliver's poetry.) This Frankly touched my heart in multiple ways that's hard to describe. I feel something is trying to form here... Very quickly this podcast has become a central hub for me, that is reshaping the context of how I experience my life, and growing my mind in many directions simultaneously, many where I previously felt stalled. This seems remarkable to encounter at 73 yoa, retired from teaching and pursuing purpose - and not really what I had reluctantly begun to resign myself to experiencing at that point... Even so, part of me was definitely crying out for a matching connection around the time I found your channel. It's remarkable how often I check into the week's cast, and find I've been thinking along the same lines, asking the same questions. Most of my life it's been difficult to find people of like mind -- system thinkers, people who see broadly and deeply at the same time, and especially people who recognize and value the intersection of different aspects of experience, places where we can discover, in the moment, in the act of balancing... learning from the dynamical patterns of homeostasis. Where intellect, the yet to be known processes we call intuition, and soma all meet, are mutually interactive and contributing, understood and fully valued. Most of the people I have known seem to take life and experience in one or two directions at most. Lately it's become increasingly more difficult to have discussions where what I'm trying to communicate about is recognized and responded to. It's not that anything is wrong with people per se. It's simply that at times this has felt increasingly isolating. I have a sense that something is beginning, something new is trying to take form in the community here. it's still early I think, the form it will take still somewhat inchoate. I don't know what shape it will eventually take, but it seems that it may have much to do with finding new patterns in how we balance the elements of experience, and in how we communicate and share that experience together and with each other. I sense this in the direction you seem to be heading personally in relation to what you're offering, and also in the push-pull dynamics that are beginning to emerge and make themselves felt in the comments. Certainly, the more open and authentic, inclusive we can be with one another in what we share here, the more we can learn from one another, and the more meaningful the impact for all.

[@thegreatsimplification]

thank you. I hear you....and your comments are appreciated.🙏♥🌍

[@bedardpelchat]

I'm with you and live at the level I consider we should do so, that is modestly. Retired from the 'job market' I work on ideas and projects for the future as you do in a more concrete manner than me for the time being. I currently live 30 km north of Vermont and stayed in Vancouver in the late 70s early 80s as well as 13 years ago, just to see the changes. That was a nice talk of yours.

[@sharonhearne5014]

My siblings laugh, “She believes in Sasquatch!”: I say, “You believe in God!” and we go round and round with no real end in sight. I have read many of the reports of sightings - a “Bible” of sorts - and I certainly don’t believe Sasquatch are shapeshifters as many claim. They certainly are the most improbable of creatures and one would have to believe intelligence is the reason they survive. Thank you for a lovely poem.

[@dustibecker4233]

Good one! Easiest way to bend and not break is to scale down consumption and reduce breeding rate of our species. Have zero, one, or no more than two, adopt others. At the same time, work diligently to protect, or, at least, gently care for 50% of terrestrial and marine systems. Humans are cultural chameleons and can change on a dime in response to incentives and peer to peer encouragement or shaming.

[@Rosemountainfarm]

Awesomeness ❤

[@chrisjones6736]

Beautiful words.

[@garyjohnson1466]

I completely agree with your views, you do not know me, but we are kindred spirits, for I have alway felt that we humans should put preserving and being better stewards of the natural world, instead of trying to own and clear cut the land for profit and privatization, one of the safest things I ever heard was a recording of a bird, not extinct, calling for a mate, that was never answered, I tried to imagine how lonely it must have felt, to be the last of your specie, like the last sachsquach in your poem…Peace!

[@briand7785]

You are smart Nate and I bet you are a good bro!

[@m.dgaius6430]

I actually really liked that poem. Impressed!

[@edwardenglishonline]

What a VIEW from ABOVE THE FOREST‼️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙂 (By tje by, I LOVED your poem❤️)

[@petertucker3336]

Nice Poem. Reminds me of Algernon Blackwood's "The Wendigo"

[@veraczemerinski9730]

You get better Frankly by Frankly, Nate. Flying high. Now sharing images we can include in our imaginary, in our conversations. And this time there was some light at the end of the tunnel. Whether it will be real light or not, just to have a lighty picture makes the path more friendly.

[@stellarwind72]

When people refer to environmentalists as anti-human, it tells me that they don't have the emotional maturity or the intellectually capacity to understand the great simplification and the surrounding issues. It is almost like hearing a spoiled brat yelling "You hate me", because you said "No".

[@evilryutaropro]

If anything the industrial revolution, globalization, militarism, capitalism, communism, fascism, finance, the internet etc. are anti-human. We’ve lived through some very anti-human centuries recently. It’s only through nature do we have humans. If we destroy nature too much we go away. How could environmentalism be anti-human?

[@devincalhoun748]

Would love to hear you interview Francis Weller

[@ocskywatch1]

When a creature has to much agency and uses that agency out of pure self interest, Bigfoot Sunset

[@anthonytroia1]

You're Sasquatch!I knew it! Humans aren't good, or bad, we are any and all of the above. Highly malleable beings, our conditioning begets our qualities. Modernity got us this far, but now it's time for a new story. A moment of waking up, and growing up, is upon us. (P.S. I got some trees for you. Check your messages 😉)

[@anthonytroia1]

@@tinoyb9294 thanks! That's embarrassing 🤦

[@FedericoV75]

Dear Nate: this video is beautiful and strange. I can fell gravity in your voice. Like you have discovered or realized something that is important but you just can't tell. It seems to me that this is the moment when you announce that collapse Is inevitable and well under way. Maybe Is just me, I had an hard week.

[@GhostOnTheHalfShell]

I tend to think of most of us in the global North, as being very much the same predicament as most people in the global south. Why? Because every one of our communities has undergone the transformation globalization has driven. Our communities are no longer self sustaining, just as many nations have been made. Our food, our clothing, building materials come from all over the world and we’ve lost the ability to actually sustain ourselves for any length without that chain. That is the same thing being inflicted on the rest of the world where nations have surrendered their ability to feed themselves in order to produce cash crops that feed us. The transformation is similar to what happened to the people of Ireland where all the best land, all the best resources are captured into plantations to grow crops for export to England. Ireland's population was then left to grow potatoes, the only viable crop on the marginal land left to them. The process is similar for the colonies Europe created all over the world.

[@iczgighost]

So sad. So true. My dark, defensive sense of humor shouts, "Trust apoptosis!" I read the game plans of megalomaniac tech bro billionaire autocratic optimists. For instance, see "Patchwork: A Political System for the 21st Century" from a series of blog posts written by Mencius Moldbug, proposing a new, global political system for the 21st century. Mencius Moldbug is the pseudonym used by Curtis Yarvin, considered the philosophical leader of Peter Theil (founder of PayPal) and other Silicon Valley technologies moguls who underwrote JD Vance's successful run for an Ohio US Senate seat as a MAGA-endorsed candidate. They continue to support Vance's efforts to win the 2024 presidential election as Trump's running mate. Read the "The Techno-Optimist Manifesto" by Marc Andreessen. Imagine Trump winning and placing Elon Musk in charge of making our government more efficient with the same style Musk made Twitter more efficient. Imagine Musk given a free hand manifesting his vision of unbridled progress. It's time for me to turn off this computer and walk in the woods like Nate and Mary Oliver. Nature bats last.😊

[@markcramer14]

This poetry and the story behind it tells me that HENRY DAVID THOREAU is still alive.

[@timmoore3188]

Your poem reminds me of the novel "Grendel" by John Gardner, which revisits the old legend of Beowulf from the monster's point of view. We have killed so many creatures we fear, bears, wolves, lions, slaughter animals with industrial efficiency. We have destroyed so much that there is no question who the monsters are anymore.

[@davidquispe1584]

Can someone direct me to Nate's videos explaining why sudden collapse would be the worst option for the biosphere? I don't have the qualifications and haven't invested the time to understand this issue fully. My mind and heart tell me the sooner it ends, the better, but I always strive to learn more and question my previous understandings.

[@thegreatsimplification]

there are many but here are 2 that come to mind: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aX-Qc5WpjdWsiq8si=H7rH9ypzFCbm3kMY and the 8-9 minutes starting here in 2020 earth day talk: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4rIi6qLi91og7s

[@pacificatoris9307]

Beautiful words. Always thought UoC PhDier...

[@Spacemonkeymojo]

The Council of All Beings is so eye-opening and depressing. We don't really give anything back to nature, we just take from it.

[@bretrohde7300]

I like all Nate’s work, but I was reminded, in his mention of what humans “contribute”, of a funny point I like to make regarding economics: “Okay, your job is to dig ditches, yours is to grow food, you build houses, you over there make clothes, you clean things up, and me - me? My job is to ‘appreciate’ the joys of life.” Doesn’t quite sit well, right?

[@cookinghot9512]

Art Berman's perspective on oil markets appears to be slightly evolving. Rather than focusing on supply scarcity, he now emphasizes demand-side issues as the primary factor influencing oil prices. He thinks that slowing population growth and economic challenges are leading to decreased oil demand, which is outweighing concerns about supply shortages. It looks like he now believes oil depletion is not an imminent problem, as the world's appetite for oil is diminishing due to broader economic and demographic trends. His focus has shifted to be more about the demand-side and the market behavior of oil instead of turmoil from peak oil. It would be nice if he clarified this position with an update interview.

[@barrycarter8276]

Wouldn’t read too much into population slowing as probably not not in your lifetime. The rate of babies being born may slow down but it’s still heading for >10 Billion. “…human population is increasing at a rate of around 200,000 people per day” - “BioScience - Journal Article 08 October 2024 - The 2024 state of the climate report: Perilous times on planet Earth”🤔

[@GlobeHackers]

From mark 14:92, quite good! The election won't put its butterfly wings on business as usual over the next five years. I wish the "we" you are talking to was a bigger group of people. 10K views, not bad but.. Keep at it. I love poetry. Thanks for that. Best

[@A3Kr0n]

I don't have any solutions. I think solutions will come from the people who are not born yet. We need to go more deeply into the trouble. "Where the danger is precisely there is for saving power." -Friedrich Hölderlin

[@GhostOnTheHalfShell]

BTW I love the discussion of the great simplification, but I now feel individual communities must aggressively their self-sufficiency as a matter of survival, globally. It is also the pathway off the hydrocarbon intensive system. Urban farming, particularly with permaculture, small scale farms supplying their localities, walkable transition, the removal of concrete and asphalt for strips of ecology restore biome. Biome defines climate as much as GHG. Life has shaped climate for billions of years. It shapes regional hydrology and temperature in its metabolism. Strip away the living skin of the planet, and what is left is barren rock lashed by weather extremes. Land-use, the flaying of the planet, is climate change, as much the oil used to accelerate the process. The process started well before oil was ever discovered.

[@VilmaMare]

Pls feature Baltic peaceful mythology from Kalevala to Queen of Serpents and see harmony, which is 'darna' in Lithuanian and 'dharma' in sanskrit 😊😊

[@chrberge7732]

By Ivar Aasen Between Bakkar and Berg out with the sea raise the Norwegian captive his home, Where he himself raised the tufts dug and set up their own houses on top of them. He looked out on the rocky beaches; There was no one who had built there. "Let us clear and build ourselves Grenders, and then keep me safe." He looked out at the bare sea; There was rubbish to lay out on; but there Fisk played down into the water, and the game he wanted to see. Fram on the Vetter sometimes he thought: Grant I were in a warmer country! But when the spring sun in Bakkarne faded, he got Hug to his home doctor Strand. And when the lids grow green like gardens, when there are flowers on straw, and when the nights are light as days, he knows nowhere better. Sry for lazy translation, hope the soul of it still shines ;)

[@pilatesme73]

Can we affect our governments somehow? There are so many people who care. We should unite!

[@peterz53]

The "bad egg" hypothesis is very interesting. I wonder if evolution could have shaped us to be who we are excepting the level of greed and indifference that plagues so many? Regardless, it will be very difficult for those of us are less prone to these bad traits to rise, in sufficient numbers, to positions of power and influence to make a difference.

[@clemutyuirtaswerc]

What do you mean by "The 1500"? Thanks!

[@jrstsb1353]

Sleep well my friends, equilibrium will be achieved and that you can be assured. It's a peaceful thought.

[@judithmcdonald9001]

Nice talk and I love the Sasquatch poem 😀 The lonely survivor part, not the bloodied skulls. I feel like homo sapiens is evolving into something else that will leave earth and after that it will recover. I just protect life the best I can because I can't tell whether or not any homo sapiens will remain on earth. Sounds silly, but it's the best way I can express what'is happening.

[@Anyreck]

❤👏🌱

[@steampunkcoffee934]

You’re busy building a new Sasquatch Community….alone no more.

[@LivingNow678]

A 50 years old music message from Freddie mcCoy dit Ahmed Sofi: 'The Next President'

[@johns.7297]

Afraid that most people are too myopic to grasp or accept the truth. States first appeared and evolved for external protection, not ecological responsibility.

[@evilryutaropro]

I find myself increasingly repulsed and disillusioned by modern society. I don’t understand what the point of any of this was. We tried to make labor saving machines and then work even more. What world are we leaving for the future generations? I feel constantly gaslit by most of the people I interact with. I want my nephew to be able to have a good life and grow old. I want to do work that benefits life. Every day it feels like we are going further in the wrong direction but instead of people doing anything we just look for scapegoats and go back to our narcissistic habits. I think even the older people I know act childish the majority of the time. Deny this, scapegoat them, make up insane conspiracies, spread misinformation, work yourself up in moral panics. There’s a mass extinction event going on in the background and we aren’t allowed to talk about it. The biggest event in 65 million years and we have to pay attention to Taylor Swift or Joe Rogan. I wish more people would listen to Nate and his guests…

[@JacquesLaurin]

A MESSAGE FROM THE OTHERS (by Paul Shephard) From: The Forest, The Sea, The Desert, The Prairie Dear Primate Nate Hagens and Interested Parties: We nurtured the humans from a time before they were in the present form. When we first drew around them they were, like all animals, secure in a modest niche. Their evident peculiarities were clearly higher primate in their obsession, social status, and personal identity. In that respect they had grown smart, subtle, and devious, committed to a syndrome of tumultuous, aseasonal, erotic, hierarchic power. Like their nearest kin, they had elevated a certain kind of attention to a remarkable acuity which made them caring, protective, mean, and nasty in the peculiar combination of squinched facial feature and general pettiness of monkeys. In ancient savannas we slowly teased them out of their chauvinism. In our plumage we gave them aesthetics. In our courtships we tutored them in dance. In the gestures of antlered heads we showed them ceremony and the power of the mask. In our running hooves we revealed the secret of grain. As meat we courted them from within. As foragers, their glance shifted a little from corms and rootlets, from the incessant bickering and scuffling of their inherited social introversion. They began looking at the horizon, where some of us were both danger and greater substance. At first it was just a nudge-food stolen from the residue of lion kills, contended for with jackals and vultures, the search for hidden newborn gazelles, slow turtles, and eggs. We gradually became for them objects of thought, of remembering, telling, planning, and puzzling us out as the mystery of energy itself. We tutored them from the outside. Dancing us, they began to see in us performances of their ideas and feelings. We became the concreteness of their own secret selves. We ate them and were eaten by them and so taught them the first metaphor of their frantic sociality: the outerness of themselves, and ourselves as their inwardness. As a bequest of protein we broke the incessant round of herbivorous munching, giving them leisure. This made possible the lithe repose of apprentice predation and a new meaning for rumination, freeing them from the drudgery of browsing and the grip of relentless interpersonal strife. Bringing them into omnivorousness, we transformed them forever and they entered the game as a different player. Not that they abandoned their appetite for greens and fruits, but enlarged it to seeds and meat, and to the risky landscapes of the mind. The savanna or tundra was essential to this tutorial, as a spaciousness open to infinite strategies of pursuit and escape, stretching the senses to their most distant reference. Their thought was invited to a new kind of executorship, incorporating remembrance and planning, to parallels between themselves and the Others and to words-our names-that enabled them to share images and ideas. Having been committed in this way, first as food and then as the imagery of a great variety of events and processes, from signs in dreams to symbols in metaphysics, we have accompanied humans ever since. Having made them human, we continue to do so individually, and now serve more and more in therapeutic ways, holding their hands, so to speak, as they kill our wildness. As slaves we stay close. As something to “pet” and to speak to, someone to be there and need them, to be their first lesson in otherness, we have shared their homes for ten thousand years. They have made that tie a bond. From the private home we have gone out to the wounded and lonely, to those yearning for unqualified devotion-to hospitals, hospices, homes for the aged, wards of the sick, the enclaves of the handicapped and retarded, and prison. All that is well enough, but it involves only our minimal, domesticated selves, not our wild and perfect forms. It smells of dependency. They still do not realize that they need us, thinking that we are simply one more comfort or curiosity. We have not regained the central place in their thought or meaning at the heart of their ecology and philosophy. Too often we are merely physical reality, mindless passion and brutality, or abstract tropes and symbols. Sometimes we have to be underhanded. We slip into their dreams, we hide in the language, disguised in allusion, we mask our philosophical role in “nature aesthetics,” we cavort to entertain. We wait in children’s books, in pretty pictures, as burlesques in cartoons, as toys, designs in the very wallpaper, as rudimentary companion or pets. We are marginalized, trivialized. We have sunk to being objects, commodities, possessions. We remain meat and hides, but only as a due and not as sacred gifts. They have forgotten how to learn the future from us, to follow our example, to heal themselves with our tissues and organs, forgotten that just watching our wild selves can be healing. Once we were the bridges, exemplars of change, mediators with the future and the unseen. Their own numbers leave little room for us, and in this is their great misunderstanding. They are wrong about our departure, thinking it to be a part of their progress instead of their emptying. When we have gone they will not know who they are. Supposing themselves to be the purpose of it all, purpose will elude them. Their world will fade into an endless dusk with no whippoorwill to call the owl in the evening and no thrush to make a dawn. -The Others

[@TennesseeJed]

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[@jeffwhite2511]

It all comes down to what Einstein once said, (paraphrasing), You either see the universe as an inherently hostile place or you see it as a innately friendly place. Which ever view you subscribe to determines everything about how you think and feel about the world. Love versus Fear - What say you??

[@RSokol-oy1rb]

Nate, have Elon Musk as a guest and explain all this to him. One has to wonder what he read as a young man with South African roots, Comics, E.O. Wilson? IOW, What is it that makes humans like him tick? Simple answer, we now know, it is culture that defines us and drives even evolution. Question is, can the toothpaste be put back into the tube, including forever chemicals, nuclear waste, to name a couple of issues?

[@projectmalus]

I think that philosophy is anti-cultural bias, where justice is part of human culture mostly, and governments compromised by receiving monies from one use plastics for instance. Where science has tech burrowed into the heart of it, and business with big capital as propositional moving to take over from outdated government. All of it does one thing the same which is feeding, care and engagement with the "knowledge pool" which usually excludes other intelligence besides humans, which is where the pool came from. The answer to your question is bound up in the cultural bias and few people will like the answer to why the need for control.

[@Corrie-fd9ww]

The Seven Sacred Laws (given by creator to turtle island folks, wisdom teachings for how to live in alignment with 🌎) and among them, the teaching of Sabe (Sasquatch) ❤️

[@genxerfool9797]

We should feel lucky that we live in such interesting times.

[@christinearmington]

There would have been Native American legends . . . yeah Your brother is right.

[@gekkobear1650]

Would have been Native American legends? There are in fact many native American legends. Where do you think the word Sasquatch comes from? Now Idk the metaphysics of those legends but Indigenous People of Turtle Island certainly did and still do have legends about Bigfoot.

[@ulrichschonhardt6796]

State of the climate 2024, search for it. The language will knock you off your sofa. It's about the collapse of civilization now 😢

[@jeffwhite2511]

If you want to understand what is really going on under the surface explore the collective unconscious, archetypes and the shadow, read Carl Jung, James Hillman, Richard Tarnas, Ian Mcgilcuist and ecopsychology.

[@pawpawthebeagle9442]

Two big points from, and about me that are a huge, nihilistic problems with what your overarching ideas/ideals are. 1. I’m single (46), have no genetic carriers into the future, and being that that’s my present equates to me not investing the “sweat equity” into it. 2. Many religious people, like myself, believe that whatever God’s plan is will work itself out down the road one way or another, absolving us of doing “nothing.” I believe your optimistic hopes for the future Earth are only that. It will not change the way it’s needed either until mankind is past the point of no return, meaning too late for our species’ survival. Or, God will come back in human form as Jesus, bringing about the new heaven on Earth. BTW: For anyone that’s read this far and might mock me for being religious in any capacity e.g. the “scientists” out there, that’s fine. It’s better to believe in something, than fall for anything. I choose to believe in God.

[@LightSearch]

Someone wrote music for your poem (wild man): kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5nLYn6YmrClaq8si=mbjv2OuOy-NMfFZl

[@nutbagus]

Hmm could big PHARMA & Pain Meds Be a Problem in Solving any & all problem's, Could ending war on drug & taxing regulating be Better? & or Medicare for all ASAP. to start?

[@Spacemonkeymojo]

A lot of chronic illnesses are a result of a poor diet. People eat unhealthy diets with little vegetable and fruit intake. Too many processed foods. Too many animal products. If people focussed on eating healthier there would be less demand for healthcare.

[@dustibecker4233]

Vote Jill Stein 2024!

[@michlwezenngraon7487]

Nate has become a crutch for me. I know he doesn't mean to assume such a position in people's life, but I would bet he has, for a number of people. People like me and like Nate himself who, of his own account, live in 'illecolate' social settings. I reach for his videos like a smoker for a pack of cigarettes. I reach for his videos to forget the devastation I see every time I leave the arboreal nest I live in, in the foothills of the Blue Mountains near Sydney, Australia. The locals do not care. Cutting trees, bulldozing forests, concreting over agricultural land, spreading Sydney like a housing cancer by importing human stock from abroad, since real estate speculation makes it near impossible even for established residents to afford both the cost of raising children and that of rent, let alone a mortgage. The Australian population falls in line at a click of the oligarchs' fingers. Number one at species extinction, CO2 emissions per capita amongst OECD countries, net deforestation, and demographic growth. As a bonus, 60% of Australians voted NO a year ago in a referendum designed to give indigenous Australians a modest advisory role in parliament. No need for Trump here. We are natural ecopaths, or terraphtorans as Glenn Albrecht, one of a few ecolate Australians puts it.

[@projectmalus]

the real estate and rental speculation is also the key to flipping it like a wrestler with a better design. It's not a strength, it's a vulnerability.

[@michlwezenngraon7487]

I don't quite understand what you mean except the last sentence . Overpriced dwellings are definitely a vulnerability and force the entire country to continue with the spiral consisting in increasingly overvaluing unproductive assets. It is suicidal.

[@Battery-kf4vu]

What?? Of course native american tribes have stories of sasquatch creatures.

[@thegreatsimplification]

ya - i have been sternly reprimanded for that. (actually i once knew that, but had forgotten - which makes me wonder how much of a persons knowledge is just a weighted average of last few days and last few years w a tiny tail of decades before). Yup, my bad - Sasquatch itself is native term. 🙏

[@Battery-kf4vu]

@@thegreatsimplification I've heard many stories of encounters in indian reservations. Jane Goodall became fascinated by bigfoot from talking to native americans in reservations in the US. Some skeptics will say she quickly changed her mind but it's not true. In an interview 3 years ago she says she's still open minded about bigfoot. The title of the interview is "Jane Goodall on How to Change Minds and Why She Isn’t Ruling Out Bigfoot" if you're interesting. So she's been interested in bigfoot for more than 20 years.

[@thegreatsimplification]

⁠@@Battery-kf4vuwow I totally had no idea. Hope to have her on show in new year

[@Battery-kf4vu]

@@thegreatsimplification It'd be great to have her take on all that's going on on the planet. Perhaps you could ask her about Bigfoot.

[@KarsonsChannel]

Haha this guy thinks we have at least 50 years left 😂

[@lesviola8428]

If you can figure out how to make financial poverty desirable, you might have a chance.

[@Carbonbank]

More of Less!!!

[@bogtrotter5110]

Our environmentalism is directly proportional to our income.

[@thegreatsimplification]

Not directly, but mostly yes. But only recently- 10kya not so

[@bogtrotter5110]

@@thegreatsimplification Money circulates. Part of that 10k a year I "earn" could go to the plumber who is saving for a yacht.

[@thegreatsimplification]

@@bogtrotter5110 I understand- I take your point that (in modern world) our environmental ethic (including mine at least initially) is a product of energy surplus. This is my point- as society heads past peak growth the environmental movement is going to have to “go underground “. Indeed that’s one of our main projects. Most people working on climate activism today will be looking for jobs in 5 years (under most scenarios). At the same time climate, global cooling, ecosystem restoration will become more urgently needed. I’m not naive friend, just deeply concerned

[@bogtrotter5110]

@@thegreatsimplification But in any case I love your videos and think you are doing great work! Thank you. Like you I live simply. I've been a homesteader for over fifty years.