Spanish Canada: The Nootka Crisis

[@techdefined9420]

Spanish explorers even reached Alaska. Few people seem to understand how big this empire was. Philipines named after King Philipp of Spain. Spanish explorers even reached Japan.Big parts of Europe belonged to the spanish empire. Half Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, parts in France and Germany. Half USA belonged also once to Spain and Spain had a big influence in the creation of the USA. Even the dollar sign $ is designed after the spanish real coins its pillars of Hercules.

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

A big S for Spain with 2 pilars on the side were on many Spanish coins and coat of arms. USA then put the 2 colums on top of the S as USA currency. Spain had a coin called A Doblon. USa then called theirs A Dollar. The 2 colunms on top of the S are reduced to 1 only later on.

[@BrandonPerez-ob7hs]

While Spain was colonizing the Aztecs the Spanish colonized and made forts in the southeast US, Alabama north/south Carolina , Tennessee,Mississippi, Georgia,Virginia even the Alaskan peninsula included in the Spanish empire

[@robertlordon8511]

Nootka Island is some serious forest! I worked in the forest industry for a decade all over BC and AB. The most impressive forest and the biggest black bear I have ever seen on Nootka !

[@ronmailloux8655]

did you work for Doman s logging .

[@NightCity91]

I’ve been waiting for an episode on this! I live on Vancouver Island but always wondered why we had Spanish names- Juan De Fuca straight, Flores, Galiano and Cortes Islands and such. Thank you for this episode THG!

[@darcyhammer]

Port Alberni and Alberni inlet are another example, named after a Spanish Captain who explored the inlet

[@borninjordan7448]

Texada as well.

[@AleExocet]

Tofino, Spanish banks, Saturna (Santa Saturnina), Vancouver & Quadra island, etc.

[@roberterickson8688]

@@borninjordan7448 ll@

[@Banditt42]

It's a shame that due to political correctness the history of British Columbia is being erased and rewritten.

[@fumblerooskie]

Hats off to you History Guy for covering under-reported events that deserve to be remembered.

[@brettadams6734]

I’m loving this Canadian content lately, thanks! I think I have learned more from history guy than I ever did in class, although maybe it’s just because I am finally paying attention. 🤣

[@HighlanderNorth1]

🤔 Yeah, history was the only subject I had any genuine interest in during my rebellious phase in middle and high school. In other words, the symptoms of my(undiagnosed) ADD didn't affect me as much while in history class than they did in algebra and English classes! 👉 But it's good to pay attention to history so we don't make the same mistakes again. Unfortunately, our leaders in Canada, America, Australia and elsewhere don't seem to have learned from history, because right now they are RAPIDLY leading us away from national sovereignty and independent democracy, and down the path of globalist authoritarianism. Now, it seems that MANY of the big political decisions are being heavily influenced NOT by the citizenry, but by the unelected, foreign, corporate and political oligarchs at the UN and WEF. 🚫 Oh, and it's not being done for the betterment of the regular citizens, it's almost exclusively for the benefit of the aforementioned unelected oligarchs! WE must start standing AGAINST the globalist, neo-liberal and neo-conservative policies that have failed so miserably over the past 35 years, and get back to producing our own goods, and working for the betterment of the people, NOT for the enrichment and empowerment of evil, oppressive institutions and oligarchs like the Chinese Communist Party and Bill Gates! 👺👿👹

[@leftcoaster67]

As a resident of Vancouver BC, Canada I highly endorse this episode!

[@NeilABliss]

Many islands in the Strait of Georgia are of Spanish names. Quadra, Cortez, Galiano ..... and many places in BC named after Brti's of this period. Meares Island, Bligh's Reef, William Head.... (yes that Bligh ) and of course, Vancouver both BC and Oregon....

[@halepauhana153]

Thanks for this bit of British Columbia history! As a nod to this interesting bit of history, we have several Spanish place names here, Quadra, Galiano and Gabriola Islands, among others. Yes, please do cover the Pig War of 1859!

[@kevincorbin6273]

Your work is simply amazing, as good or better than any production by big networks, Your delivery is always pleasing to listen to Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

[@JTA1961]

yes ~yes & yes 👉🎯👈

[@connarcomstock161]

There was a show about this relative to the War of 1812 called "Taboo". It's really good.

[@timclark7507]

First thing I thought of.

[@nickw7619]

It's astonishing this isn't more well known. Yet again you continue to surprise us and share, well, history that deserves to be remembered Excellent video, I leave for vacation tomorrow and as usual a little dose of THG is greatly welcomed

[@yekutielbenheshel354]

You seem to be ignoring the adage that, "Winners write history." I am not at all astonished that this isn't more well known. It's a bit of an oversimplification, but generally, In the 19th century "global colonization game" Spain, Holland, and Russia lost; whereas France and the United Kingdom won. Sure, Spain still had the Philippines, the Dutch had Indonesia, and Russia spread all the way to Vladivostok, but the big winners in 19th century were France and, of course, the United Kingdom. One of the things to remember about from the beginning of the Age of Discovery until the late 1700's was this: except for a few outposts, generally all the territory you see on maps that nominally belonged to one particular European power or another, was unexplored (by Europeans) and not really "controlled" in any meaningful sense by whichever European country ostensibly "owned" it. It's kind of like the open oceans today which are vast "liquid swathes" of the surface of the Earth not controlled by any country, yet exploited for fish. (By "exploited" I am not implying any negative connotations). In other words, drawing lines on maps and declaring sovereignty was more aspirational than substantive. Those simply didn't matter much to the guys running the gold mines or engaged in the fur trade. When the United States purchased Louisiana from France, what France really was saying is this: go ahead and explore and settle that territory. We won't fight you for it. More or less during the 19th century that all changed as a direct result of the widespread use of steam engines, railroads, and telegraphs. The transportation and communication revolution that occurred during the the 19th century profoundly changed the way colonies were governed. Imagine sending a message from London to Bombay in 1869 and then waiting 2 months to receive a reply. Now imagine sending a message from London to Bombay in 1870 and waiting 15 minutes to receive a reply.

[@bc30cal99]

Thanks for the video from central BC. If you want a bit of a soundbite of coastal life then, I recommend the book "Captive of the Nootka Indians: The Northwest Coast Adventure of John R. Jewitt, 1802-1806". There used to be and still might be artifacts in the Royal BC Museum in Victoria which were made by John Jewitt who was a blacksmith.

[@derekcourt425]

'White Slave of the Nootka" by John Jewitt was an excellent account of one man's experiences in Nootka sound in the early 1800's. The Royal BC Museum is about to be closed for a $1 billion dollar refit ( insert demolition of all history from a European viewpoint) to reflect a more anti "colonialist" viewpoint and all the First Nations want their artifacts back so they can build their own museums The museum may be fairly boring place after history has been "whitewashed"?.

[@comikdebris]

Great story

[@redwater4778]

@@derekcourt425 The Nookas Chief Maquinna killed about 15 of Jewitts shipmates. The anti colonist viewpoints is hiding BC's history from 1800 to 1850.

[@mikemodugno5879]

So cool. This is, indeed, history that deserves to be remembered. Thanks History Guy.

[@rickharold7884]

That was fascinating! It’s always interesting to hear the subtle pieces of early history for the European exploration And its impact.

[@johnarnold893]

Rick.....grade school history in BC

[@allysonhanks9159]

Hi Rick how are you doing ☺️

[@-jeff-]

A great setup for the infamous (and hilarious) "Pig War" of 1859. I'm surprised Vancouver didn't sink under the weight of it's history.

[@teto85]

I honeymooned with my first wife on the San Juan Islands. Wonderful place.

[@glenmartin2437]

Thank you. I did not know about the settlement of this area, nor the disputes. Interesting. My ancestors come from all over Continental Europe and the British Isles. They include First Americans. I wished these peoples had lived in peace, but the disputes are a sad part of human history. Thanks again. Keep up your great work.

[@uxboat]

I have seen more Canadian history here and on Mark Feltons channels than was ever on the CBC . Well done and Thanks Mike

[@minuteman4199]

Even now Nootka sound is one of the remotest places on earth. I've never been there, although I have been to Tofino which is farther south on the same coast and a very remote beautiful place. Given the opportunity I'd travel there in a heartbeat.

[@ronmailloux8655]

My brother logged on Nootka island in the 1980s

[@yekutielbenheshel354]

That assertion is obviously 100% false. The word remote has nothing to do with, say, being pristine. Remote is a spatial concept denoting an extreme distance between a particular locale and the nearest "city" (main population center). According to my good friend Google, Nootka is only about 160 miles from the city of Vancouver. Nootka might be undeveloped, pristine, or even inaccessible, but it is certainly not even remotely close to being remote. (The word play was intentional). Some islands in the Indian Ocean, the South Pacific and of course the entire landmass within a few hundred miles of the North and South Pole are obviously much, much, much more remote than Nootka.

[@ronmailloux8655]

@@yekutielbenheshel354 yes Nootka hugs the coast line of Vancouver Island temperate rain forest conditions. Sir Francis Drake is believed to have been there in the 16th century . Pacific currents and trade winds make it very accessible .

[@yekutielbenheshel354]

@@ronmailloux8655 I see.

[@crush42mash6]

I love the Canadian content you’ve been playing, keep it up such a large country so many different diverse pieces of information no one knows about

[@misternewoutlook5437]

I have been to Galiano Island, which is one of the major islands in the Gulf Island chain surrounding Active Pass. Dionisio Galiano was one of the Spanish captains involved in the dispute. This video prompted me to look this up because Galiano seems like a Spanish name. I didn't know anything about it before. That's one thing about the History Guy - you feel compelled to dig a little further when you recognize some of these people and places.

[@robertdeen8741]

M'y friends and I used to camp on Galliano every spring up near the north end. You brought back many memories of the 1980s.

[@heronimousbrapson863]

Interesting fact: Galiano was killed at the battle of Trafalgar in 1805 (he was serving on a Spanish ship as Spain at the time was allied with Napoleonic France). He was de-capitated by a British cannon ball.

[@creid7537]

@@heronimousbrapson863 That's a rather mind-blowing fact

[@graham2631]

Not as much now (as native place names have replaced them) but in the past most of the bodies of water had Spanish names.

[@heronimousbrapson863]

@@graham2631 Many of the islands still retain their Spanish names however: Fidalgo, Caamano, Galiano, Valdes, Gabriola, Quadra, etc.

[@ronmani9476]

So cool to see an episode close to home. I live in Port Alberni, named after Don Pedro Alberni who was in charge of the Nookta settlement from 1790-92. A couple of years ago I was in Mexico at the town of San Blas and was suprised to find out that is was an important sea port where many of the spanish expeditions in the pacific started from, including Alberni's. In the ruins of the local "Contaduría" (customs house) there is an anchor on display from his ship.... history is interesting, and more so when you see real places that give context. Thanks for the interesting channel!

[@chriscoates8675]

Nooka Sound is a great place to go salmon and halibut fishing and you can also pick fresh oysters while walking on Bligh Island

[@bluelobstertales]

Great coverage of an important West Coast story! We usually think of the East Coast as holding most of the Age of Sail history in North America. Nice to see it covered!

[@yekutielbenheshel354]

Who are "we"? I was born and raised in Los Angeles, California. I never thought that at all. We learned that Russia, Spain, and Portugal, the United Kingdom did a lot of "sailing" up and down the West Coast of North, Central, and South America. Most of the older major cities in California have Spanish names: Saint Diego (San Diego), Nuestra Señora La Reina de los Angeles de Porciuncula (Los Angeles), Saint Barbara (Santa Barbara), St. Louis the Bishop (San Luis Obispo),... the list goes on and on. The whole world revolves around us is a common trap we all tend to fall in. For those of us who live "out West", the folks who live "back East" often seem out of touch with what it's like out here. For example, there are millions of folks "out West" who speak almost exclusively Spanish and probably live a lifestyle you would associate more with Latin America than the United States. Sure, New York City was primarily a hodgepodge of recent immigrant communities as recently as 100 years ago. But that reality exists here in many places in the West, at this moment.

[@theoutlook55]

Anyone get reminded of the gritty TV show, TABOO? I'm reminded of the centrality of "Nootka Sound" to that series.

[@roxannaweaver2155]

That's a lot of information to jam into a 15 minutes time slot and still keep it interesting and from being overwhelming. Learned something new and it's not even 10a.m. yet! Yay me and thank you!

[@donalddodson7365]

Great new lesson about history of so-called "north america.' Egos of politicians (formerly known as Royalty) has not changed, creating their "new reality" to suit their economic and self-serving interests. Thank you THG Team!

[@pipe2devnull]

My Canadian elementary school Emily Carr Middle School was divided into four houses, one of which was called Nootka. That was the house I was in. The other houses were Comox, Haida and Bella Coola relating to First Nations in British Columbia but probably as incorrect as Nootka.

[@darthminty3648]

Nice antiwhite racism on the part of your school!

[@kevinbooth-]

@@darthminty3648 so by not explicitly focusing on a people one is being racist? Or does that only apply when it's white people being ignored. JFC.

[@darb4091]

@@darthminty3648 how is that anti-white?

[@darthminty3648]

@@darb4091 how is it not? Glorifying stone age savages who never made it past the stone age instead of glorifying the whites who built literally EVERYTHING in BC that exists today? Could you be any more brainwashed? Now moo like a good serf!

[@darthminty3648]

@@kevinbooth- how about this? You stop using all technology created by whites & see how fast the white race can be ignored. That means no more electricity, no more internet, no more infrastructure, hell you don't even get to live in a house coz whites invented architecture too on top of all those other things. Could you be any more of a brainwashed antiwhite racist? Moo now like a good serf. No, no, I get it, you don't understand how psychological warfare works.

[@marklittle8805]

As a Canadian, I had no idea any of this happened but shouldn't be surprised.

[@chuckkottke]

"can't we all get along." 🌞. And another quote attributable to 'Crocodile Dundee', speaking the thoughts of the native aboriginal people of Australia, "we are like fleas, arguing over who owns the dog.". . .. ....

[@KOZMOuvBORG]

Vancouverite (UK) since 1965, thanks for this local history lesson.

[@lancehightower4276]

I wish I had a history teacher like you!! You make the subject informative and fun. Your voice is just perfect for this. A++++++++++++++++++

[@tpobrienjr]

A great story, well researched as usual. Thank you!

[@lightbox617]

Who ever does your opening graphics deserve a big raise

[@TheHistoryGuyChannel]

I use a program called Viddyoze. Really simple.

[@allysonhanks9159]

Hi Timothy how are you doing ☺️

[@johnjunge6989]

Don't know where you get your info, but it's always good to hear about lost history.

[@OZ6JO]

please understand the Vitus Bering was'nt russian - he was indeed working for them - but he was Danish.

[@_thomas1031]

...Spanish Canada!? Now that's something I hadn't heard of. Intriguing🤔🙌

[@jeanlarose2343]

You are a very good researcher and narrator. It is a real pleasure to follow your videos.

[@richardtravalini6731]

Amazing history that I never knew. You continue to make me feel uneducated. Thanks History Guy for another lesson in humility.

[@JTA1961]

same here...

[@allysonhanks9159]

Hi Richard how are you doing ☺️

[@laserbeam002]

Never a boring post. Thank you again.

[@MrLesonfireforGod]

Once again an example of history being taught by the one who wins the war always has a slant. I had heard of Captain's Cook and Vancouver here and there but always wondered why the straight of Juan De Fuca itself had a Spanish name. I figured somebody Spanish must have got there but had no idea who or when. Thank you. When ever you decide to take a holiday sir, why not come up to Milk River, Alberta? They have a highway sign there displaying six flags to represent the six European and American powers that ruled over the area at one time or another.

[@rnedlo9909]

Thanks for another great video! I had a neighbor who was like those European powers: If he saw it, it was his. I lost many a good tool to him.

[@JTA1961]

who then ended up in the wood chipper 😂

[@rnedlo9909]

@@JTA1961 It was tempting, but the old fart was too evasive. LOL

[@alexstewart9068]

A history of the residential "schools" in Canada would be a lesson for a lot of people.

[@michaelverbakel7632]

I'm Canadian, I didn't know that Spain had even made any claim on Canadian territory. We were always taught only about the French and British explorations and wars and history in the conquest of Canada. I did know that there were small, tiny settlements of people from Portugal in Newfoundland because of the long history of Portuguese fishermen using the Grand Banks for their main fishing grounds off the Newfoundland coast. Also I think that one reason that Canada has never truly felt being a part of the Americas(North&South) is that we are the only country of the Americas that has never had that history of Latino Spanish culture and conquest and ties to Spain historically,culturally and linguistically, plus also the Portuguese in Brazil. In Brazil I know that they are tied historically to Portugal. In all the other countries of South America, Mexico, the Caribbean and at least a third or more of the U.S.,of land,culture,language and history are tied to Spain. At least a third or more of the U.S. population, all the rest of the Americas except Brazil the first language is Spanish.

[@pipe2devnull]

I have been curious about the towns of Spanish and Espanola in the province of Ontario, Canada. Wikipedia offers explanations not having to do with official Spanish settlements but individual Spanish people in the area.

[@phillip_iv_planetking6354]

Black Legend. Makes sense since UK is one of the spewers of the Black Legend along with Netherlands.

[@EdgarStyles1234]

@@pipe2devnull Espanola/spanish river named after a "spanish speaking" tribe of natives that were taught spanish by a catholic missionary before the british explored the area.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

@@phillip_iv_planetking6354 Focusing on Spanish brutality is a nice way to distract from your own.

[@phillip_iv_planetking6354]

@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 Yes it is. Most people have no idea that Spain was the first nation to conduct a Humanitarian mission. It was called the Balmis expedition. The Spanish tasked themselves to vaccinate the Natives and Asians within their empire from smallpox.

[@Gigas0101]

This is wonderfully close to my home, thank you for this!

[@777poco]

another part of Canadian history I had never heard of, thank you

[@naponroy]

The HISTORY GUY: on the subject of Canada, there is a legendary story of Laura Secord saving Canada from an American invasion... and chocolates in her honour. It'd be great to hear about the truth of the matter.

[@RPMZ11]

Sweet!🍬

[@vansongs]

Certainly a mix of all those names used to identify towns, cities, roads, areas etc., here on Vancouver Island. I live in the Cowichan Valley. The Gulf Islands, American and Canadian, have a strong Spanish presence in naming. First Nations names are very common, as of course British. It is British Columbia after all. Make of it all what you will, but here it is regardless.

[@russcrawford3310]

American Columbia ... "Fifty-four forty or fight" ...

[@vansongs]

@@russcrawford3310 Once there was a time . . .

[@russcrawford3310]

@@vansongs - ... and the USA extends all the way to the St Lawrence River ... [giggle] ...

[@Annur375]

The lovely aspect of History is that we always learn something. Thank you for sharing this and best to you.

[@mr.niceguy1812]

Having lived on Vancouver Island, i was almost surprised I knew nothing of this, but as I always say, what i don't know would fill a warehouse.

[@BatCaveOz]

The Florida based hip-hop group, "2 Live Crew" actually wrote a song about the Nootka Crisis. Interestingly, they focused strongly on the wife of Martinez.

[@Meowface.]

A friend of mine lives on Flores island ! So weird seeing this video, he just went home yesterday

[@geoffrey4662]

Love the episode. It's a wonderful part of the world.

[@JTA1961]

in the summer...

[@geoffrey4662]

I have lived many places from coast to coast in Canada. Come try a Winnipeg winter :)

[@LordGeorgeRodney]

Spain was truly humiliated by the Nootka Crisis - begging France to help in a potential war who resfused then having to back down & apologise to the British & then abandon Canada as a whole - a war won without a shot fired!

[@durandal1909]

You must've been the fat solitary bullied kid in your hometown. Nothing better to do but make up fictional stories... Just to clarify - Neither did Britain want to go into war alone, as she also desperately sought for military support in their allies - Prussia and the Netherlands. During the Nootka crisis, Spain seized ships that were flying the Portuguese flag ,but quite oddly, were manned by British crews... Thus Spain captured and sent the respective crews to Mexico City for trial. In the end, Britain and Spain agreed that all European powers must abandon the region, which they both did, probably because both decided it was best to fight Napoleon in Europe instead. Do you know who was truly humiliated?? Admiral Vernon in 1741 by Don Blas de Lezo LMAO

[@juanmorales5133]

😂😂😂😂😂 England always after Spain

[@gtbkts]

Thanks for the awesome content!!

[@MegaJam64]

Thanks!

[@BlueBaron3339]

Such a complex and convoluted topic for fourteen minutes 😂 🤣 I contented myself with the images of the ships. Although later technology would render ships infinitely more capable, they would never be more beautiful 😍

[@allysonhanks9159]

Hi how are you doing ☺️

[@haarpanoid]

Great story, thank you for sharing

[@anthonyburke5656]

The Nootka dispute contributed significantly to the British winning the Napoleonic Wars, because it caused an upsurge in British Naval expansion, both manpower and ship building

[@TexasBoy13]

Hey history guy! Im a huge fan, been so for a while, i k ow you apparently live in the St louis area and was wondering if you went to the Spirit of Saint louis air show? I wondered if i could find you. Idk how many comments you read, but i hope this one grabs your attention, hope you have a great day!

[@mcuddy799]

I thought the origin of the name “Nootka” -meaning around- was because the natives in the canoe were shouting “turn around” to the ship, thinking the captain was lost.

[@phillip_iv_planetking6354]

Not only did the UK lose face in the American revolution, it lost and entire fleet transporting an army to the Americas captured by the Spanish along with a French squadron. Action of August 9 1780 "The Franco-Spanish fleet captured 55 of the 63 merchant vessels present, making it one of the most complete naval captures ever made.[11] The losses, were, in total 80,000 muskets, equipment for 40,000 troops, 294 cannons, and 3,144 men. The financial impact of the losses were estimated to be around £1,500,000[12] (£1,000,000 in gold and £500,000 - £600,000 in equipment and ships). The action also helped to derail a secret British diplomatic effort to make peace with Spain.[13] The loss was still remembered in Great Britain (by then the United Kingdom) 30 years later, at the height of the Napoleonic Wars.[12]"

[@wingman5985]

Very interesting. Thanks for mentioning. I'd like to read about that.

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

Antonio De Ga'lvez as governor of then Spanish New Orleans, shipped a lot of supplies to the Continental Army up the Missisippi river. Later on, Galveston,Texas was named for him.

[@oddeagle1968]

Cool video, I had never heard of Spanada.

[@Badger13x]

Encroaching on territories that you think belong to you, still going on even in this modern age.

[@generalZee]

It always makes me laugh when European nations ended a war with each other because they got involved in another, more interesting war.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

It's like disputes in elementary school.

[@JTA1961]

like when getting pulled over & you start praying someone robbes a bank😅

[@RPMZ11]

Stay tuned.

[@Fogaata]

Very interesting history, thank you.

[@goneutt]

That thing about the Papal order is why the Portuguese traders told the English the turkey was from Turkey. They couldn’t admit they had been in North America

[@leonardpodbisky6128]

The Spanish also had a presence in Newfoundland for years as did France, Portugal and Britain and is worth looking into. It's history is chalk full of hardship, perseverance, pirates and much more.

[@EdinburghFive]

Unlike Britain and France, Spain's presence was limited to the fishery.

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@EdinburghFive Taco Bell dont sell fish.

[@EdinburghFive]

@@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 LOL. But Taco Bell is Mexican food not Spanish. ;-)

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

@@EdinburghFive Not exactly. A lot of mexican food was created by The Spanish in Mexico by combining products brought from Spain witih mexican products. Chili con carne was done by spanish cooks combining beef from cattle brought from Spain and chiles from mexico. Same with many other mexican foods. Burritos were created by Americans.

[@EdinburghFive]

Hey @Emergency LowManeuvering Good to hear from you. What you are partly referring to is the Columbian Exchange where plants, animals, people, cultural ideas, etc., flowed from the New World to the Old World and visa versa. Tacos and Chili Con Carne are still not Spanish food. The only thing the Spanish did in the case of Chili Con Carne was substitute beef for the meats that had otherwise been used by the Aztecs. In India, because of the Columbian Exchange, hot peppers are grown and used in making many hot dishes there. No one would consider these Indian dishes to be Mexican because peppers from the New World are used. Pizza is considered Italian despite the fact many different versions have been concocted in other countries. We all think we are so modern when we have 'fusion' food recipes whereas combing different foods and favours has been taking place for thousands of years. Cheers

[@ScubaSteveCanada]

Being a Canadian (Toronto area) nothing was taught about any Spanish involvement in our history, just the British, French, indigenous people and of course, America.

[@jmcr71795]

The Hemlko people of the Bute Inlet, on the inside passage and mainland BC, tell a story of a Spanish ship traveling up the inlet, and mining gold (a lot of gold up there on both the Homathko and Southgate rivers). When they left and sailed down to the mouth they were apparently greeted by a British ship, so headed back up the inlet, and sunk their ship, rather than have it lost to the British. While I have no idea if this is true, I met the guy who owns most of the mineral rights on the Southgate in the 1990s and he believed it enough to bring in drivers to try to locate the Spanish ship. They never found it, although they search for it over many years, this isn't much of a surprise given the volume of run-off from both rivers which makes the water look like coffee with creamer.

[@vincent412l7]

Spain and Portugal did not divide America - they divided the world. Spain got America, Portugal got the Indies and Africa. (That America protruded much more than thought meant Portugal got a part of America also).

[@heronimousbrapson863]

To this day, many of the straits and islands in northwestern Washington state and southwestern British Columbia have Spanish names.

[@1LSWilliam]

Now we know why Jefferson and company were so eager to survey and map all of this out. The struggle against these "foreign" empires was on. Astor came to the fore and with the encouragement of Jefferson sought to found another "USA" in what is now the Northwest.

[@fortusvictus8297]

The timing was impeccable. Curious to a skeptical mind, but serendipity to a more optimistic one. The Jefferson expeditions allowed for claims on the region, which led to the1846 Treaty of Oregon with England (which they almost went to war over) was necessary to secure US claims to all of the Mexican holdings along California, which were asserted immediately after England's signature. Mexican-American War was over by 1848 practically the day after the peace treaty was signed, GOLD was announced to have been discovered in the new American territory of California...

[@1LSWilliam]

@@fortusvictus8297 So well said. Thanks!

[@Zebred2001]

There's a murky Indian legend of a Spanish expedition into the interior of what is now southern British Columbia involving depictions of Spaniards on petroglyphs and a "Spanish Mound." It was featured on the old Canadian Western history series - Gold Trails and Ghost Towns - The Lost Spanish Mound kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYOZZpyYbNKHrdE

[@comikdebris]

Loved watching Gold Trails and Ghost Towns as a kid

[@dashcroft1892]

Only murky if you’re from Eastern Canada. Petroglyphs and artifacts found from Keremeos to Kelowna support evidence of a Spanish presence, however fleeting, in the S. Okanagan.

[@Zebred2001]

@@dashcroft1892 I'm in Kamloops. Fleeting evidence is non-documented and therefore still murky in my book!

[@dashcroft1892]

@@Zebred2001 … no issues Vince. To each their own. Good luck with your book. ;-)

[@johnstevenson1709]

Anyone interested in nootka sound should watch Taboo for a highly fictionalised account

[@mrdelaney4440]

It's not for sale.

[@Onewheelordeal]

Dear THG, just a friendly heads up the last time I looked at the website it was horribly out of date. The most recent video was Just Judges and the links to the last few podcasts were formatted wrong and missing newest ones as well

[@jamesoneill3922]

It’s a historical website

[@conifergreen2]

An interesting story to read further about this is the tale of English armourer John Rodgers Jewiit who wrote his memiors about the 28 months he spent as a captive of Maquinna. Fascinating reading.

[@robertsolomielke5134]

Late reply-There is a Spanish Countess (Countessa?) , whose name escapes me, buried on Quadra Island. I do remember she was 76 years old, so we think the Countess was likely a paying passenger, or related to the expedition leaders. Perhaps I am wrong , but certain it will be in Spanish archives. Marina Island is also nearby ; The name of Captain Quadra's mistress.

[@jamesblair9614]

I think most if not all the players in this story live on, their names attached to geological features.

[@robertdeen8741]

How about a show about Esquimalt and how it came to be?

[@RetiredSailor60]

Sailed many times in the Strait of Juan De Fucu enroute to Bremerton WA and Vancouver in 1984 and 1985 while stationed on USS Cape Cod AD 43. Circumnavigated all of South America on USS Whidbey Island LSD in 1993 in support of UNITAS 34-93.

[@allysonhanks9159]

Hi William how are you doing ☺️

[@neileskew3454]

Thanks as always, say hello to pocko the cat, he handsome devil, lol

[@rodchallis8031]

I hope you all know that while you were distracted watching this, a Spanish Trawler stole that last lonely Turbot from the Grand Banks.

[@EdinburghFive]

Admiral Tobin needs to come out of retirement. 🙂

[@michaelmichael4132]

Who'd guess a place like Canada would hold such an interesting story?

[@MarshOakDojoTimPruitt]

thanks

[@graydonjones6912]

How about the lost Spanish mound in the interior of BC Canada? Have you heard anything about that?

[@constipatedinsincity4424]

Hey History Guy 👋 I want to prove how Father's Day is the least appreciated holiday even Arbor Day gets more respect .

[@nedludd7622]

For good reason

[@CSMartin]

If you are Canadian, it is a huge day thanks largely to Canadian Tire. They market it like Sears used to market Christmas.

[@millwrightrick1]

I am pretty sure that the English had a prior claim as Sir Francis Drake sailed up to the area in 1587 or so.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

If we're being genuinely reasonable no one had a claim because there were already sovereign nations there.

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

El Drako didnt go there at all.

[@jimmorris5328]

I would love to see THGs perspective on the Canadian Residential School program in all its tragedies

[@derekbowbrick6233]

Unfortunately it is not history yet.

[@stevewilson5292]

The subject is radio-active and will be closed to serious scholarship for at least 50 years.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

@@stevewilson5292 Some people are deeply offended to learn about the brutality that was a normal part of colonialism and will demand that history not be investigated or discussed. Ironically these are often the same people who love to insist that 'facts don't care about your feelings' throwing tantrums over their feelings being unable to alter the facts.

[@stevewilson5292]

@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 Currently there is a political movement afoot to portray the residential school system out of context - to explain the lack of success of Indigenous people. There is no interest for them to apply historical scholarship to the issue. They don't want :history to be investigated"; they want an unquestioned narrative to be created.

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

@@stevewilson5292 Your Klan robes are showing again. 🤡🤡

[@timshelby2324]

I feel bad for the first nations people it was and is their land .

[@rickszabo4312]

Ya the coastal natives on the west coast had it "made in the shade" back then, The interior natives not so much.

[@BasicDrumming]

Great video.

[@edl617]

Brutal Spanish as I think of Spain and there behavior back then

[@phillip_iv_planetking6354]

That is the Black Legend. Spain was no more brutal than the UK. In fact, the Spanish were so brutal they conducted the world's first humanitarian mission. It's called the Balmis expedition. It's mission was to vaccinate the Natives and Asians within the Empire from Smallpox. Truly brutal no?

[@johnbaird4912]

@@phillip_iv_planetking6354 Or maybe the truth legend?

[@Arp1757]

You mentioned the charge of piracy but overlooked your usual sidebar

[@frederickpotthoff8893]

Love the intro.

[@punditgi]

New twists and turns in North American West Coast history! 👍

[@Beltloop29]

Love history. Your channel is one of my favorites though I rarely comment. This may even be my first comment here.

[@SkipperBender]

2:16 Vitus Bering is not russian, but danish. He worked for the rusiian zar.

[@eHush]

You should look into one of the most interesting canadians, Klondike Joe Boyle

[@CaptainJerry-]

Are the San Juan islands part of this mix?

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

Well, the Spanish went up to Alaska too. Port of Valdez sounds Spanish.. Brrrrrrr, Cold place. They left ? Hace Mucho Frio?

[@vincetytler6175]

Read Sailing with Vancouver: A Modern Sea Dog, Antique Charts and a Voyage Through Time Book by Sam McKinney, a fascinating book that follows the voyage of discover by Capt Vancouver