Hockey 101: A Look at Penalties in the NHL

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[@sharkhaos_probably]

The real target audience of this video is the refs.

[@gohabs8918]

😂

[@mikemoore5263]

Winner of the day!

[@theadmjg]

They can't see it, unfortunately, because they're all blind

[@DBeau73]

@@theadmjg Do you know how hard it is to call a game? Being blind on top of it really doesn't help their reputation. The worse is there are fans making rules to fit their needs or they see what they want to see and say the refs are blind. The worse is the inconsistencies and even the DoPS of messing it.

[@theadmjg]

@@DBeau73 It's a joke...

[@broncosfan99]

As a new hockey fan I already appreciate this video. Only thing I know about penalities is clips from that one referee who is uses a lot of emotion and seems to get clipped a lot 🤷 oh oh also the NHL doesn't take 7 minute ad breaks between every penalty

[@nefariousnektarios]

Welcome to the Great Game of Hockey! I'm no hockey buff but my guess is that's Wes McCauley! Here's some clips of him: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2PPfKJohtSdeLM

[@jonmendelson1104]

If you're curious about how commercial breaks work in the NHL, nearly every period has three commercial breaks. They occur at the first stoppage in play after the six, ten, and 14 minute marks of the period with a few exceptions. If one team is on the power play they won't break it up with a commercial break (though if there are penalties against both teams and it's four on four they will). Likewise if the stoppage was from a goal or if the stoppage was due to an icing.* The other exception is the last minute or so of the period as well as if you just got back from a commercial break within a minute or so, such as if you go through the six minute mark of the period and there's no stoppage until after the ten minute mark, they don't just do a commercial break, a 30 second play, and a second commercial break. The stoppage from a commercial break is two minutes long, though the broadcast might come back a bit earlier than that and the announcers will talk about something. After a period ends, there's an 18 minute intermission before the next period starts. During that time they'll have an intermission report and there will be a lot of commercials. In between the third period and overtime during the regular season as well as overtime and the shootout, the break is only about a minute (don't quote me on the exact timing). In the playoffs, things change when you're going to overtime. Instead of three commercial breaks per period, you often get no commercial breaks. They do have a break in play at the first stoppage after the halfway mark, even if it's an icing, goal, power play, etc. for people to clean up the ice, but the broadcast usually doesn't cut to commercial. Also, the intermission between the third period and the first overtime is 15 minutes instead of 18, as is the break between any subsequent overtime periods. None of this of course factors in the advertisements that are all over the ice, the boards, the player equipment, are read out by the broadcasters, or occasionally the short ads that are shown picture-in-picture during stoppages and sometimes slightly overlap play. *Icing is when a player dumps the puck from their defensive end of the ice (anywhere before the red line that shows center ice, though the officials are usually generous about if it's close, and it's about where the puck last touches the player's stick) all the way to the offensive end past the line that's even with the net. If your own teammate is the player that looks like they're going to get there first it's not called, only if the opposing team aside from the goalie gets it. This also doesn't apply if the team dumping the puck out is killing off a penalty, if the goalie leaves his net to move towards the puck, or if you're passing it into your own defensive zone. This doesn't cause a penalty, but instead there's a faceoff in your defensive zone and the opposing team is allowed to put fresh skaters on the ice while you have to keep your tired ones on, hence them not having a commercial break right after the icing.

[@broncosfan99]

@@jonmendelson1104 I understood most of that lol. I appreciate it and basically what I got from it was there really aren't many commercial breaks besides the three during each period and maybe a few extras for certain situations. See I'm just used to the NFL where there is at least 4-6 commercials per quarter especially as we get closer to the fourth quarter and if it's the playoffs you best believe there gonna throw in as many ads as they can. It gets annoying

[@doggosplosion]

The way it is named "illegal check to the head" makes it sound like there is an option of " totally legal check to the head".

[@nathanbrisebois8756]

@doggosplosion I mean sort of, there's incidental contact where head is not principal point of contact, but those usually get called anyways just without the DPS extracurriculars

[@backelie]

The full rule is: *Illegal Check to the Head* - A hit resulting in contact with an opponent’s head *where the head was the main point of contact and such contact to the head was avoidable* is not permitted. In determining whether contact with an opponent's head was avoidable, the circumstances of the hit including the following shall be considered: (i) Whether the player attempted to hit squarely through the opponent’s body and the head was not "picked" as a result of poor timing, poor angle of approach, or unnecessary extension of the body upward or outward. (ii) Whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position by assuming a posture that made head contact on an otherwise full body check unavoidable. (iii) Whether the opponent materially changed the position of his body or head immediately prior to or simultaneously with the hit in a way that significantly contributed to the head contact.

[@arcadelinkauthor]

That is a thing, but only for certain players, like Connor McDavid.

[@calenlaughlin3132]

There are legal checks to the head. The difference between legal and illegal is largely due to height disparities. Shoulder to shoulder is the gold standard of "clean" bodychecks. 7 foot vs 5 foot makes that practically impossible. There are also illegal checks to the head. 7 foot vs 5 foot makes that very easy. Shoulders can duck and elbows can raise. Good luck distinguishing the two in a consensus.

[@hyperNight]

As someone who is still relatively new to watching hockey on the regular, these videos are always appreciated, Shannon!

[@tripsaplenty1227]

Crosschecking is a penalty? Huh, NHL had me fooled.

[@nathanbrisebois8756]

@@tripsaplenty1227 crosschecking is both a fundamental part of the game, and also a penalty

[@tripsaplenty1227]

@@nathanbrisebois8756 get em in the side of the ribs right under the pads. don't load up a swing, short and fast won't be seen by the ref.

[@nathanbrisebois8756]

@tripsaplenty1227 this is the way

[@ronweldon4167]

Maybe a video explaining face off dots and when each one is used. I saw a player slide a goalie stick to a goalie called for throwing the stick. Funny stuff. Thanks Shannon

[@billcook4768]

The face off dots is the one that still gets me after all these years. I know the rule, but I’m still baffled at least once a game as to why a face off is on a particular dot.

[@gyrate598]

Love the goalie across the red line penalties as well, super rare and the spinorama Roy done on Grezky will always live in my mind lol

Roy refusing to lose.

[@TheAlaskanfrog]

I needed this. I needed a not politics break after being an American for the last week

[@sportsrook8282]

Same, it’s nice to distract ourselves from the “interesting” political landscape taking place in our country

[@mikemoore5263]

It's not Hockey season, stay off socials, don't watch the news, turn your Google timeline to non political, it's easy! Lol

[@weregretohio7728]

But we need a permanent "not politics" break...

[@Nathanielhiggerson66]

at least yall got Harris now

[@chrisbelos2834]

you don't see a quarter of thoses in the playoffs lmaoo

[@dikbozo]

Playoffs? I think there is maybe 5 or 6 that get called in the PO. Holding, interference, goalie interference, delay of game ( puck over glass), high sticking, and if needed check to the head. Pretty much everything else is ignored.

[@oldhab7890]

Why would they call a penalty in the playoffs unless someone is injured? Let the players go at it - playoff hockey is not the regular season.

[@McSomething15]

"High sticking is automatic." Hahahahahahaha

[@andersnilsson8303]

"Stupidity should be a 2 minute penalty" / THG Surprised it wasn't mentioned in the video or the comment section so far, from what I can see. One of my favorite quotes of all times. Guess that's why I have both the T-shirt and mug.

[@McSomething15]

If you're new and want to know what Golatender Interference is, absolutely nobody knows.

[@Drainbamege]

I immediately thought of two games were Anthony Cierlli would have had a hat trick and like a 5 point night if not for the vagueness of goalie interference.

[@McSomething15]

@@Drainbamege I'm a Wings fan. I still have fear of players standing in the vicinity of the goalie because of Holmstrom. He had goals waved off despite touching absolutely nothing and no one.

[@jonmendelson1104]

There's more to delay of game than the things you mentioned. The goalie playing the puck outside the trapezoid, players covering the puck (closing their hand on the puck or laying on top of it), equipment issues, fans throwing objects on the ice, keeping players in off-side position deliberately, and face-off violations.

Absolutely agree with rescinding the Instigator penalty. Also, the "Broduer Lines".

[@xabvosx]

As a long time hockey fan, this is an incredible video and I imagine will be a very popular one from your channel for a long time to come!

[@BoboMcBooboy]

My biggest pet peeve with any and all refs, is when they set a standard for what is and isn't a penalty early in the game, and then don't follow that same standard throughout the game... and *worst of all... calling penalties for one team, and mysteriously not the other...on EXTREMELY similar plays especially...

[@IceNinja2007]

Agreed. We understand refs are human, but you can't look at the same play, at two different times during the same game, and make two separate calls. I'm even for having a 3rd ref on the ice.

[@WolverineIncognito]

Welcome to being a hockey fan!

[@SonicSlicer]

To add to the DoG penalty, and I'm not very sure of this, but it pertains to faceoffs. I remember hearing that if a skater is kicked out of the circle, and then the replacing skater is kicked out, it might be a 2 min. DoG, like I said, I'm not sure of this at all, something I heard in passing a couple years ago. Also, for the new folks, it would be REALLY beneficial to explain **ICING**.

[@tonyv1695]

The TMMOTI explanation was GOLD. Such a practical explanation. Thank you!

[@coachrobwille4176]

Thanks for a great video been watching hockey since 1976 but still good to get a refresh on all the penalties good job Shannon

[@MDubs93]

Thanks for videos like this. I know new fans always appreciate these. You do a great job of simplyfying all of this info.

[@JB_II]

My biggest problem with the enforcement of the rules by the refs is that they are enforced totally different in the playoffs than in the regular season. They let a lot more go in the playoffs. It’s why some teams are really built for the playoffs and not a top tier team during the regular season. A great example was the New Hersey Devils during the Brodeur era.

[@vinceniederman]

@The Hockey Guy love How U talk About The Penalties in Hockey!

[@thearmourboy3254]

I think the most confusing thing for new fans is icing. Like once you've watched the game it's easy and makes sense, but being a new fan in 1998 I can remember it just seeming to take a bit longer to get. Most of the rest are self explanatory.

[@billcook4768]

Icing and off sides.

[@ThePolerbearproducts]

Would have loved to see the hand signals for these. I know most of them but still would love to see it

[@Scantronimus466]

I’ll second that. Especially for the penalties that aren’t called very often, like headbutting.

[@Phateagle262]

Shannon: biting's not on here Brady Tkachuk: he F'in bit me Brendan Lemieux: 🦇

[@gobeethoth]

you go the the box and feel shame for 2 minutes and then you get out. right ??

[@ryans413]

Depends on the penalty most are 2 minutes some are 4 or 5.

[@dikbozo]

Oui oui, monsieur. Some people don't get this reference. For them , the movie Slapshot.

[@caras2004]

Hey Hammerhan

[@dw1784]

This here is (whack) slashing... This (oomph) is hooking... that's (ahhh) high sticking... and this here (ughh) is spearing. Non non non! You can't do Dat! Dat's very bad.

[@Mayonnaise69]

In regards to leaving the bench, if you have been tossed from the game and you leave the ice but then come back. It is an automatic 10 game suspension.

[@shellysmith1037]

2023 was crosscheck season. Cheap stuff

[@fionam3554]

"parent voice" - "Go sit in the corner" (penalty box) Slewfoot - watch P K Subban tapes.

[@belle302]

Appreciate it - as a new fan I have been perplexed often wondering why something wasn't a penalty.

[@KevinLynch1717]

This man THG is one of the most dedicated to his craft I’ve ever known! I’m inspired by him every day!

[@time9293]

I’m just seeing flashbacks to the start of Slap Shot.

I posted the interview clip.

[@Rockhound6165]

I remember in the 70's and 80's there being a penalty called a Gross Misconduct although I didn't understand ti at the time. Supposedly it's going above and beyond the scope of a regular penalty like when Ron Hextall Hassan Chopped Kent Nilsson or during a fight you bite or pull hair a la Dave Schultz. A Gross Misconduct usually resulted in an ejection.

[@flyingtiger1603]

It’d be funny it the guidelines for cross checking applied to crimes. “ Well he robbed that bank but he only did it once so you know it’s ok but if it’s three times then we arrest him. Oh and it also has to be the same bank.”

[@Scantronimus466]

That’s basically how it works in California. “Yeah, they’re shoplifting, but it’s only $800 so we’re not going to arrest them.”

[@kylejohansen689]

My favourite interference is when a forward dumps it in and the defenseman "leads them" away from the goal line with their stick and body. Never gets called.

[@benjaminh7257]

How Kadri was suspended for the rest of that series vs Boston will forever make me sick

[@einohrfuermaenner]

Hi Shannon, thank you for putting out such a majestic video for new fans.

[@4dventureTim]

Sorry, Shannon; but I learned all the penalties in hockey from the first two minutes of Slap Shot. Really all you need to know. 👍👍

I posted the interview clip.

[@itscambro1234]

Wow I love this THG really pumping out videos lately I feel. Like lists and stuff like this. Love it

[@outsideredge]

Not penalties, but I like rule changes that keep the game moving and remove out plays for teams on defense. My favourite rule change is that you can't change your lines if you ice the puck. I would extend that to you can't change your lines if you go offsides.

[@BoboMcBooboy]

Charging to me, is basically leaving the zone you're kinda supposed to be in, and you have a single mission, and usually travel like half the distance of the ice. Maybe a left D man going across the middle of the ice, to where the Right D man usually is, and laying a hit on that guy, because of something happening earlier in the game... Trying to send a message, etc etc...

[@nathanbrisebois8756]

Rule if thumb is typically 3 full strides before contact. 2 is fine, 3 is charging

[@BoboMcBooboy]

@@nathanbrisebois8756 I'm talking *in reality* - because your definition would basically mean they miss charging ALL the time in the NHL... I'm just not talking rulebook definition, or what SHOULD be the case

[@evileyeball]

The best back in my day comment from a colour announcer was when Cheech was saying that he was hiding a hot dog in his pants and then had to come in and play backup goalie with a hotdog in his pants.

[@williampilling6576]

Man, slow down with all these bangers. I cant keep up! Always love the content THG!

[@jjrevab1118]

Nice to hear a Boston Bruins fan discussing “too many men on the ice.”

[@largolarry]

KNEEING - i remember Ovi getting a match for kneeing when he skated in a straight line and the player he was trying to check cut and dragged his trailing leg causing knee to knee contact. My opinion is the one that changed direction should get the kneeing charge.

[@jawshwashere]

I love the hockey guy

[@s69-5]

Goalie Interference calls are dependent on the alignment of the planets and the phase of the moon.

[@KelleyShepherd23]

I found myself a little distracted at times here but didn’t happen to notice “Jersey Foul” 🤔😝 did you happen to cover that one here? 😎 seriously tho, thanks for this 😀😀😀

[@atomicpumpkiin593]

I was a new fan during the cup finals, i picked all of this up pretty quick and i wasnt a fan of sports before. Its not too hard if you just pay attention to the game

[@elee6606]

HI Hockey Guy, Comedy Clubs - Little mountain Gallery and And the Improv Centre on Granville Island

[@Andrew-tn1mf]

anyone else assume that was a blind man's cane and not a hockey stick?

[@euroshfl]

During and right after the pandemic there were so many flights and just 2 min minors per each fighter. It was so fun to watch.

[@jim_again2245]

Hey Hockey Guy, long time listener, first time questioner haha but I want to know what you would think of this rule implementation... I like teammates standing up for one another, but I dont love that play stops after every big hit, especially in the regular season so I think this rule may protect players who are good at hitting but not good at fighting and may increase the number of hits in the regular season. It would force teams to analyze the hit first before responding to it. I think if a player gets hit and its a clean hit with no penalty called on the play, and then there is a fight after the hit, the player instigating the fight shall receive a double minor penalty, and the team whos player was hit gets a 4:00 minute powerplay. If the hit is assessed a penalty, meaning it was a dirty hit, and a fight ensues, then just the 5 for fighting is assessed to each combatant like normal. The penalty assessed to the hit would give the other team a powerplay. What would you think of this rule change?

[@ronfehr7899]

I remember ages ago when the holding rule was not as detailed as it is now. Holding basically meant getting ones arms around an opposing player to impede his progress. I suppose it may have been easier to spot the infraction back then, as a hold of that type was pretty obvious.

[@joehung1552]

A goalie knocking the net off the moorings should be the King Henrik rule.

[@GizmoBeach]

I’m penalizing the NHL for wasting hours of my life muting the volume to avoid hearing gambling ads.

[@McSomething15]

The infuriating thing about roughing calls is when one player mauls another and both get sent to the box.

[@danielflynn8530]

PLD is my only concern for the Caps as he’s been tossed around the league quite a bit. He’s got that reputation about him

[@ronfehr7899]

You were really lucky that you regularly started watching hockey when you did. I think it was mainly in the 1970s where bench-clearing brawls were a common occurrence. I especially hated the Philadelphia Flyers for that back in the day.

[@tygrkhat4087]

I still hate the Flyers because of the Broad Street Bullies.

[@jaykay1516]

Can u do a rules video? Its so hard to explain delay of game, icing, faceoff location to my mom and sister. This is a great vid too!!!

[@22bmain]

I played college hockey back in the 70's and several of the penalties on this board did not exist.

[@johnsohn653]

Puck over glass is about the only penalty that is called consistently and called every time

[@JustBob-sw4rf]

You mentioned it a little. But a couple of check boxes for each penalty would have been fun. One for ‘3rd period and OT’ and another for ‘Playoffs’. Wherein you check the boxes where that penalty is generally not called during those times.

[@84knucks05]

I really only agree with the even up calls when there are blatant missed calls... If on a play there are penalties on both teams, but only one gets called; then I agree that there should be a way to "even it up". Especially if there is a pp goal scored...

[@caras2004]

The famous Marty McSorley illegal stick infraction in the playoffs

[@WestBrantKid]

Good job. One you missed is the bench minor, often lumped in with unsportsmanlike conduct.

[@billcook4768]

NCAA has an automatic 5-minute major and a game disqualification for fighting. So the player misses the rest of that game and all of the next. Which is a big deal in their short season. In 15-years as a season ticket holder I think I saw it called once, maybe twice.

[@tepobori]

Thank you for this Shannon. As a panthers fan (aka a not real hockey fan) I needed this information so I know what to yell at the tv for. Much love from SoFlo

[@shannonsullivan1968]

Thanks for the tutorial. There are some terms I do not understand. Specifically you talked about interfering with the goalie “in the crease.” What exactly is “the crease?” I do look forward to more tutorials to explain terms like “icing, blue line and offsides.” I’m sure there are other terms I don’t know as well. Thanks 👍🏻

[@romaliop]

The crease is the area in front of the goal with the blue paint.

[@billcook4768]

By itself, “blue line” is pretty self explanatory :) But a video on the various implications would be cool. Or even what a blueliner is.

[@MakzieBes]

Great vid!

[@no-whereman1257]

Consistency in penalty calls will never be a reality with inconsistent Referees!

[@daveblock4061]

Denis Lemieux went through this in the opening scene of SLAPSHOT.

[@darkphoenix2]

I would love to see them go over these again and call penalties in a way that makes sense. Holding: When a player uses his arm or hands to restrict a player's movement. Placing your hand on a guy should not be an automatic holding call. Hooking: When a player uses his stick to restrict a player's movement. Having your stick parallel to the ice and barely touching a guy should not automatically be hooking. Interference: When a player impedes the movement of a player who is not within reach of the puck. Interference should be called more often. Boarding: Hitting a player in a way that sends them headfirst into the boards. Hitting a player in the upper back when they are hunched over, close to and facing the boards should be the situation to look out for. If the player is a safe distance away it should not be called. Instigator: This should be called every time one player clearly forces another guy into a fight. Cross-checking: Striking a player with the shaft of the stick, held horizontally. Pushing a player with the stick in this position and knocking him down should not be a penalty. Players should be allowed to place the stick on the back and then shove, but a quick impact should be penalized.

[@mcthunderstick2374]

I think if a goalie goes behind the net to play the puck, he should be fair game for clean contact.

[@umpinmass]

I have 2 problems with officiating now. I HATE phantom penalties. If the ref is not sure, it should not be a penalty. He has a partner that might have a better angle and he can make the call. And a slashing penalty when a player has their stick knocked out of their hand. Hold onto your stick! If the stick breaks, then it is a penalty. It is a difficult job where players are bigger and faster than ever before.

[@tcsmith8523]

interference is consistently not called when the puck is dumped into the offensive zone and the defender holds up an offensive player going for the dumped in puck. since the non-call is pretty consistent, I think the league powers-to-be don't want it called as interference. I'd like to see the league tighten up on interference. My opinion is that the referees are doing a pretty good job in recent years.

[@dudemanawesome1079]

High-sticking should also be determined by swelling, if a hit is bad and doesn't draw blood it'll probably be swelling pretty bad

[@arcadelinkauthor]

22:20 Also of note: When the puck goes over the glass at the benches, they don't take into consideration whether it would have hit the glass, if there was glass there. Which I find really strange. We saw this in action in the Canucks game 2 of the second round against the Oilers, 2nd period at 14:16. The puck crosses into the bench area about one foot above the boards, and ends up over the glass behind the bench. Ludicrous.

[@RumAndWhiskey]

This is a good idea mate their will hopefully be a whole bunch of new fans with the Utah expansion 👍

[@joshmajka4980]

Just watch the beginning of Slap Shot and Denny Lemieux explains all of this in 2 minutes!

[@bdonaghu]

My biggest issue is when fans boo when there is a legit penalty called against their team. So obnoxious, and every fan base does it...

[@fooddog45]

I see cross-checking happen with almost every hit. It's rarely called.

[@Southerndevilsfan]

Thanks for this.

[@Earthboundmike]

I know I'm late but I'd like for penalties to get accumulated and added on once play is over. Some penalties SHOULD stop play though. Something would also need to be done about goals scored after if a penalty would be pending. I suppose it could also just get called in to stop play because they should be able to watch everything.

[@rubyseverinwhitworth9066]

I haven't seen much but i thought/heard the instigator penalty was for when a player was trying to get someone to engage in a fight but the target not taking the bait

[@TheMrTwizter]

I was watching a Stream on twitch of a guy just getting into hockey and he asked "what are the rules for goaltender interference?" And the whole chat simultaneously said "we don't know". Glad it's not just me

[@ryanahr2267]

I'm still trying to understand half the calls that were made against Zach Benson last season. Kid was the only bright point besides UPL in a massive let down of a season, and he managed that while getting targeted with some of the most bizarre calls I've ever seen. Hopefully he gets a little room to breathe this season. Good video, Shanny

[@Christian_Martel]

You forgot the Penalty for being Brendan Gallagher and breathing less than 15 ft from the net.

[@hockey582004]

I just want consistency in calls, I know it's a pie in the sky ask, but the same play should not be a penalty one game and not one the next. Excellent explanation of the rules though.

[@Jimi86]

I still remember JT Miller getting ejected for "intent to injure" in a fight because he had a bandage on his hand.. still perplexes me to this day..

[@thebestwingsfan]

You forgot about closing your hand on the puck. For those new, players can catch the puck out of mid air with their glove as long as they drop it at their feet immediately. If, for example, they catch it and throw it somewhere usually to a teammate or hold it for an extra second or two to keep it away from an opposing player or prevent him from having an advantage if they were to drop it normally, that's a minor penalty.

[@jonmendelson1104]

I don't quite know if he included it or not since it falls under the umbrella of delay of game. He didn't specifically mention that as a type of delay of game penalty, but he did mention that there are multiple things that are considered delay of game. Likewise he didn't mention a goalie playing the game outside the trapezoid but that would be a type of delay of game as well.

[@wildchild795]

There should be a biting penalty just for Alex Burrows

[@gregbluefinstudios4658]

RARE equipment penalties: Stick curve, or, eye sheild size. RARE, but called

[@tiger5869]

Any time the ref jersey is on, it's a banger

[@tygrkhat4087]

One penalty you may have missed is Third Man In; a player joining a fight in progress. But to the best of my memory, it's rarely called as most players know it's verboten.

[@fionam3554]

You missed on slashing - if i slash your stick to keep you from playing the puck, etc, I am usually OK, but they call it if my slash BREAKS your stick. h. and the goalie is not supposed to cover up the puck if he does not have part of his body in the crease. That's delay too - so you see goalies stretching like a yogi to keep one toe in.

[@JulietHotel580]

Great video!

[@alesd2120]

Wasn't there a "wrong starting lineup" penalty not so long ago? Never seen it before or after. Also "illegal equipment" (or playing with broken stick, without helmet...) can be interesting

[@xJabro]

too many men also known as the boston playoff special

[@christhornycroft3686]

I used to be a purist, but I'm way past that now. At this point, I'm less concerned with the human element of the game and more concerned with getting calls right. They should have a referee at a higher vantage point who can communicate with the guys on the ice so that the level of accuracy goes up on calls. If that works, you can even get rid of the coach's challenge and the risk of delay of game, because you'd already have someone getting a better look at plays, whether they be penalties, offsides, puck over glass or goals. Anything you can do to improve the integrity of the game is always a good thing, especially if you want to encourage new fans. Even when I was a kid and hated some of the rule changes, I did like the video replay on goals. Get the goals 99% accurate.

[@nathanbrisebois8756]

@christhornycroft3686 I like this idea. Whenever I talk with my friends about a bad call in a game, it almost always ends with "well, it's a fast game and the refs don't have a birds eye view like we do from home or in the 200s/300s". So why not put a ref in the 200s? Or make some intricate dynamic sky camera like some NFL arenas have, with a cherry picker bucket for that ref to stand in and give them a little monitor. You get the action camera angle for breakaways, goals in general, open ice hits, and you have your ref in the sky who can use their eyeballs and the broadcast feed. Maybe have two refs, one watching the game from the skybucket and one watching the broadcast feed so nothing gets missed

[@billcook4768]

Or here’s a crazy thought - let the other two officials on the ice call penalties. And, yes, I know technically they are. Don’t think I’ve ever seen it.