Building a Methanol Burning Dirt Modified Race Engine (Over 700 Naturally Aspirated Horsepower!)

Dirt Modified racing is one of the most popular racing classes across America, and today we're building a methanol-burning monster that should help dirt racer Tanner Reed find many Victory Lanes. The engine is a small block Chevrolet built by Lance Stillwell at Motorsports Unlimited (motorsportsunlimited.com/) in Terre Haute, Indiana.
What's cool about this 700-plus horsepower ripper is how easy it will be to duplicate. Stillwell has a strong relationship with PBM Performance Products (www.pbm-erson.com/) and chose just about every component out of their catalog. That means every component is easy to source, competitive in terms of price and usually is sitting on a shelf and ready to be shipped.
But that's small potatoes compared to its performance. Just check out the dyno runs and see for yourself!
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[@helvetesfonster900]

I typically binge watch this channel rather than watch every time a video is uploaded but I'll tell you why I always come back, you aren't pretending to build budget engines for everyday guys that in reality end up costing 20 grand rather each engine seems to be built specifically catered to what it will be spending its life as and I just love that. You aren't trying to sell parts to me it doesn't come across like one big 20 minute commercial like other car shows do.

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

Thanks for the compliment. The truth is I just cover the engines I think are cool anyway. Thanks for watching!

[@ronaldlilly2065]

da@ bbq

[@jjmccloud]

1st time seeing and gotta say, I'm definitely checking out the other videos..Got a feeling ill be stuck going through other videos for awhile 🤣 also subbed to the channel for new videos! Love this stuff and when its a great video that just makes it even more exciting!

[@notme810]

I see it the same, real tech!

[@notme810]

No better channel, I really like that you cover so many engines from the FE and 23 degree SBs to the Roush-Yates Ford and SB2s. The cool thing is that the building is all as detail oriented from one through the others. Thanks and I am a real engine geek, regardless of make or vintage. Blair Patrick built a 400 ci FE that made near 600 hp at EMC with iron 352/390 ported heads. It is details and man you guys deliver on every video!

[@H1GHdrogen]

More videos from this chad engine builder, please. His engines are outstanding.

[@Chris-yy7qc]

I really like how he puts everything together precisely and extremely well lubed. This guy is a new level of engine builders.

[@bowtie-man]

Little man is definitely no slouch, a n/a 700 horse small block is just marvelous. Hopefully the new owner will visit the winners circle quite often with it. Thanks again boys. 👍👍👊👊✌✌

[@Chris-yy7qc]

And lets not forget that beautiful torque curve. Even tho it does make an incredible ammount of peak power (for an NA), the power is not only at peak but theres also plenty power in the mid range.

[@bowtie-man]

@@Chris-yy7qc Nooooo doubt.👊👊👍👍🤙🤙✌✌

[@youknoweverything7643]

I been trying to tell all these guys who think thier 300 up chevy 350 motors in thker trucks or little hotrkds are fast to get a used circle track engine like a modified or latemodel engine cause our oval track motors are more reliable then anything they can assemble on thier own for the price of a good barley used engine. And njce thing is if its still a good motor to have it refreshed os only 1500-2k and you have a 700 hp N/A hot rod motor for less then 10k. Yes you can get a nice used one for 5500-10k.or even order gms partnumber crate motor 602 which is a sealed vortec steel head and block 350 that makes 350 hp stock but if you add better valve springs, 850 frm VDL holly based nascar double pumper carb with a 6al msg box and blaster 2 coil 1.5 inch carb spacer 180 degree circle track cross over headers and your exhaust pipe shpild exist right under pasenger side to make the most power. With that setup on it mine made 402 rear wheel horsepower in my asphalt oval track latemodel truck which is a super latemodel with a fiberglass nascar truck series loomkng body on it. Or go with the 604 part number the makes 450-500 hp GM says dofference is all aluminum and different cam and crank and pistons and bore

[@SteveV6206]

Great idea painting the reluctor wheel in the distributor

[@tomcampbell4414]

Any kind of affordable racing is great! “Affordable” sure is a relative term though! Guess I’ll just have to keep street racing the 89 Festiva...

[@kenheisner288]

The dirt tire bill is a budget killer thin Hoosier tires

[@scottmiller3025]

Curious to know what u have done ,I'm sure it's the same 1.3 that's n my 97 aspire with 65hp.

[@joseffrieburg2688]

Maybe against golf carts lol

[@forwarddrive4066]

@@scottmiller3025 Lmao

[@thegeokiller1529]

go karts

[@mattprice37664]

Bad ass block! Tons of little things that really turn out to be big differences! Lance needs a channel of his own!

[@mjodr]

Love watching a master build an engine.

[@adamjuiceman]

This is really close to exactly my planned build thank you so much for this video it gave me confidence on my build ideas and gave me some ideas as well I will watch this many times over.

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

Good luck! Let us know how it goes.

[@adamjuiceman]

I've got the bottom end. Block checked and good for re hone @.060 so I'll be at 401" my crank isn't knife edged but will still be great for my build. I can't thank you enough for having this exact video I watch it almost weekly!!!

[@RadDadisRad]

I live a few minutes from Knoxville Iowa. I can’t get enough of sprint cars and dirt modifieds. I didn’t get into them until I moved here and saw a live race.

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

I've only had the chance to go to Knoxille once -- for the Knoxville Nationals Sprint Car race -- but I loved it. Such a cool atmosphere and great facility.

[@aaronanderson7619]

Wanted to go for years. I'm in California, few fellas I know went in 10.. said there was a guy with a squeegee cleaning their press box windows every 30 min fur to humidity. That's spooky for a dry cen cal fella. Yes it's time to invite me. Hahaha. Take care buddy.

[@robertreavley7145]

The attention to detail to limit windage losses is dramatically different and interesting. The sump set up is testimony to that. As is the top end oiling system. I like the offset inlet rocker set up to! Another innovation for better breathing! This with the shimmed rocker stand and solid non twisting roller bearings cam. This motor has pedigree all over it! Thanks again Horsepower Monster!! Another cracking in-depth and detailed build of a awesome motor!! Love it!!

[@gmcnelly2468]

"torque wins races, horsepower sells cars." Carroll Shelby

[@scottw2157]

The Big block dirt mods in the northeast is where all the torque is.

[@bigblock67camaro]

When your're out of tourque you must shift. Me! :)

[@donniebaker5984]

We won the eldora world 100 witth 850 horsepower from a 434 cu in Dale Earnhardt Signature Series small block Chevy. And gave us $100,000 to for the win ..how many time have you won the World 100 at Eldora Ohio the tr ack Tony Stewart owns today where Steve Kinser Sammy Swindell and Tony Stewart are the fastest world of outlaw sprints ..we know all about Carroll Shelby winning LeMans with a big-block 427 two years in a row and then Frenchy's dropped the rules said we can only have a 5 liter and guess what happened then bud it was Dan Gurney who had won the 500 with the gurney weslake 4-valve pu sh rod heads on small block Ford so they build themselves an engine that would have been illegal for indyy as it was five lliter with four valves per cylinder small block 302 that went faster like 240 miles per hour and won the LeMans two more times ieach year with horsepower...don't remind us boy we are the racing capital of the world as its called herev in Indy .. you're out of your League

[@donniebaker5984]

@@bigblock67camaro late model modified stock cars don't shift they run wide fucking opening 8500 RPM all fucking night long had over a hundred fucking miles an hour on 1/3 mile dirt track you can't do that with big block as they will get hot .. been there done that and he'lldthe season ..but these engines here care NASCAR engines .they cost $50k just for the motor parts you put together yourself and another $50k for theccar .of avtotalvof $100,000 buck late model stock car that runs on methanol they'll cost you about $600 a barrel that you'll burn up in a weekend every weekend we run just a few tents off the speed of Outlaw Sprint Cars that do about 150 around these little tracks that's why they call it the racing capital of the world Nobody Does it Better

[@donniebaker5984]

@@scottw2157 you want torque come to Indy cylinder heads .. they build entire alumium copies of Chrysler Hemi 600 to 1000 cubic inches I once a year they have had a shootout over here at the US national Raceway Park Indianapolis bring your stuff down and we'll play

[@OzarksWildman]

That’s a one spicy meatball! lol

[@AR15shootin]

Those Willy’s carbs are works of art! I used one on a 540ci big block in a boat recently.

[@Terribleguitarist89]

Starting the vid with a clip from my hometown... Respect

[@baby-sharkgto4902]

Dude AWESOME video

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

Thanks a lot!

[@johnsmith-qz4bv]

awesome build..

[@wlogue]

That's a ripper son! Thanks

[@johnsmith-qz4bv]

that is awesome ..great video..

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

Thanks!

[@bryantcurtis2665]

john smith I also watch uncle Tony’s garage

[@frankgiron5578]

👍 nice video. Precise n to point

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

Thanks!

[@rogersrabbithole8417]

Way cool build.!!!

[@nickboucher7339]

I learned so much watching this video.

[@bryantcurtis2665]

Thanks. Great video!

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

Thanks! And thanks for watching

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

@David Galea The best I've seen lately that's being used by all the top builders for competition engines is BAM lifters. bamrollerlifters.business.site/ They only do high performance solid roller lifters.

[@supercharged6771]

Would love ta know the exhaust temps at idle and at peak power. Great video!

[@honda450rider87]

Take a shot every time he says stillwell. I just died of alcohol poisoning...

[@sarabarnes5660]

Dirt track racing should take over now that NASCAR is on the way out

[@markwallace5274]

Love your videos

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

Hey, thanks! And thanks for watching!

[@robertweitlauf4653]

nice to see he doesn't flood the pistons and cylinders with oil. and pay attention to how he uses a torque wrench. nice and smooth not jerking it.

[@gabrielmadoz6697]

Bestial!!!

[@bossracing3387]

love that oil pan baffle

[@giff427dg]

All depends on the track i noticed the newer crate moters with all the torch get out ran up top on a faster track by a smaller ci

[@zoomba31]

man what an awesome piece. wonder how many quarters that beast cost?

[@ThunderAppeal]

Anything running methanol may not be the text book definition of insane, but I'd say one can find it in a thesaurus.

[@donniebaker5984]

They make 850 HP and run well over a hundred that just a few tens slower man the World of Outlaw Sprint Cars like. Steve Kinser Tony Stewart and Sammy Swindell. Outlaw Sprints are limited to I believe it's 350 or 400 cubic inch small block and they run hilborn fuel injection on methanol they make about a thousand horsepower and about little over a thousand pounds and tumble like a basketball in a bounce on those big tires over the fence there fun to watch and enjoying the late models and his friends they have wheelie contest past the grandstands with the sprint cars now that is quite a show whencan pull a full wheelie straightaway in a Sprint car with one tire big on the outside and one little one on the inside that makes them turn left on KZbin you'll see

[@bigredracer7848]

You could have milled the heads boost the compression closed the gap between the piston and the intake valve and made a lot more power

[@curlracing276]

@18:20 not sure why msd ignition doesn't already paint this reluctor wheel. Good tip 👍

[@davelowets]

Yep.. Those fuggers quickly corrode up big time in every MSD dizzy I've ever used. Years back I figured out to lightly spray the reluctor with a little clear coat before I install them.

[@AR_420]

What kind of assembly lube/grease/gel is the red stuff being brushed on? Almost looks like super tacky red wheel bearing grease. "Looks" like...lol. I'm getting ready to assemble my 1st engine, mild, decked, Vortec long and have a 4oz bottle of Permatex Ultra Slick and a 4 oz bottle of Lucas Assembly lube. I've seen so many different kinds and so many different combinations from lobes and journals, it's a little overwhelming. There are so many choices out there and you only get one chance at breaking an engine in properly. Also, i have a factory roller cam. Thank you for any advice 🙏

[@ronniejohnson3781]

I know a couple guys that buy refreshed used dirt motors and put them in drag cars and spray the life out of them with nitrous. Strong motors imo

[@davelowets]

Why don't they just build a proper drag race engine? There ARE differences between circle track and drag motors.

[@dadfood3504]

Always thought PBM just resold parts from other manufacturers. Will have to check their stuff out sometime

[@philbenedict9208]

That's exactly what they do.

[@HPRaceDevelopment]

how do you create this graphicly displayed power charts? I'd love to do the same for my channel

[@Brovioli]

Mr. Reed, we not only share a first name, but a need for speed!

[@karlsracing8422]

Glad mopar always had shaft mount rockers! Geez that's a lot of extra parts.

[@Alx2672]

Also the roller rockers as in the magnums, the windage tray, domed piston, flat engine skirt, external oil pumps. I was watching this thinking it's all mopar engineering, even the V looks like an rb engine, and the big single plane intake too. The distributor and the exhaust ports were the most obvious visual differences

[@coltonhurley2525]

Thats why im glad i run mopars

[@Dr_Xyzt]

For 410ish cubic inches, that thing makes a lot of torque. 620 foot pounds for 410 cubes is 1.51 foot pounds per cubic inch. 12% better than even the most advanced street engine. Impressive. I wanna see a teardown of an engine like this, and maybe put a temperature probe on the back of the port from inside the valve cover. I wonder if the methanol makes the engine run cooler at say, 5500 RPM.

[@davelowets]

Surely it does..

[@jjmccloud]

I know that assembly lube 👀 lol thats RedLine assembly lube, that stuff is amazing, allows you to use a light coat when needed and still have amazing lube abilities and you count on it staying where u want it, best part is its not sticky lol Great stuff for sure and even the price point is competitive! I'll never use anything else, its the only lube you need honestly even for thr valvetrain!

[@AR_420]

The red stuff being brushed on is "RedLine" assembly lube?

[@jjmccloud]

@@AR_420 Yea, Great stuff! Same Redline that makes the oils and stuff its all great quality stuff and hard to go wrong with.

[@jjmccloud]

@@AR_420 of course everyone has their favorite lubes or brand and there are plenty others out there just as good but I don't think you'll find to many complaints on Redline products, especially their assembly lube

[@davelowets]

I just use Schaeffer's 9000 series 20w50 motor oil for assembly lube in the usual areas. It's clingy and will stay put until you get the engine assembled, in the car, and primed. For high pressure areas, like a flat tappet cam lobe, I use some high-molly grease. Never had any issues this way. 🤷🏻 Like you said, everyone has their own ways and there isn't just one "correct" way.

[@landonjones7821]

How much would it cost for you to build one? I am interested too see I might want to have one built for mine.

[@anthonyking4387]

Must trust them brushes! Where do you find a brush like that!

[@crautoguy8384]

6" rod on a stroker smalle walk finally somebody that builds one they want to live all these guys with 3 Eighty threes and 57 rods Want to brag about their stroker motor that makes big tour but doesn't Rev

[@tonkatoytruck]

What other engine restrictions and\or rules for DM racing? (i.e. cid, fuel, etc.)

[@kirkwoita8840]

It really is a matter of which of the 4 major sanctioning bodies in the US someone competes with. For Dirtcar UMP its pretty much fair game as this motor is. Its got to be a steel block, has to be a wet sump, has to be a push rod motor, and on a single 2 or 4 barrel carb. In other parts of the US rules limiting what components can be in the valve train are more common. Fuel its a choice of Race Gas or Methanol. There are limited Modified Classes, which do have more rules including CI, Carb, valve train.

[@4speed3pedals]

Magnetize the socket or use a magnetic socket or epoxy a small rare earth magnet into the socket.

[@44R0Ndin]

Got a nice old-timer trick for you if you don't have any magnets. Get yourself some chewing gum, chew it, stuff it in the socket, then stuff the nut or bolt in the socket. Gum will stick the two together enough for you to install the bolt or nut, but not so much that you can't pull it off. If you don't want to wear out your jaw muscles chewing gum for this, you can get blue-tack or poster adhesive that works about the same but you don't have to chew it. Can't say the same for those rare earth magnets, sometimes those ones are too strong for their own good, most of the time if you want to hold a nut or bolt a ferrite magnet (weaker) is the better choice because you can pull on the socket extension and come back with a socket and no fastener instead of either a socket and fastener, or no socket and just the extension bar.

[@acurarl9929]

If you limit oil return to pan wouldn’t you end up with excess oil in the top end???????wouldnt you cause a different set of problems by doin so???

[@utahcountypicazospage5412]

Does it have to be the old stuff or can circle track put any kind of motor I’m new to this

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

Usually they sort of force you into the older designs by requiring a cam-in-block design and a distributor with a single coil. In a class like this they also say it has to be an iron block, but the Super Late Models and such can use an aluminum block. Some of those guys use an LS by adapting a distributor and coil ignition, but that's about as exotic as it gets. Thanks for watching.

[@youknoweverything7643]

I have been racing asphalt oval track since I was 11 started out in asphalt 4 cylinder mistang class was called ministocks ran thlse for three seasons at the small track that is less then a 1/4 mile outside oval we also raced asphalt mods legends pro lates, street stocks, pure stocks, pro trucks and super stocks onthe bull ring throufh lut the years. After those 3 years i mlved up to a asphalt modified and raced at the bkg huge half mile righf down the road mobile intl speedway its a sister copy of the old Bristol layout. Same banking amd all and our asphalt modified class is called the modifieds of mayhem tour now bjt back in 2006 when I first raced them there was no series but I had a old camping world truck engine in it my first 4 years running it turning 9200 rpms and making 797 rear wheel horsepower our rules back then was way more open back then then it is now bjt they are still pretty open it was wild back then in the mod class.im now 31 and raced a ump dirt modified for first time ever on dirt 4 years ago and I have nlt went back to asphalt way morw fun on dirt better pay outs when ypu run with a touring series like usmts butif you wanna win those usmts races you better have a huge motor and the best up to date chassis and technology and a hell of. Wheelman cause Nick Hoffman and Kyle stickler and ther Herminator and others are he best in the country in that series

[@brucefrye8799]

HVH Knoxville TN my hometown

[@tonyschiffiler4816]

Are the lifter bore bronze bushings used for less friction , or for larger diameter roller lifters ?

[@vengeanceizmine9878]

Actually, neither. Don't know their reasoning why they used them, but they are not a necessity when you are just stepping up in lifter size, and not mandatory for wear. It is application specific, but they are mainly used for worn lifter bores, lifter bores that are too short as the bushing offers more stability for the lifter as the bushings are longer, or when lifter bores are not positioned correctly, and/or lifter bore angle or location is modified from stock. Most aftermarket blocks with ample material around the bores don't need them unless you run big lobe lift cam profiles. Hope this helps a bit.

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

VenganceizMine is correct, but I might emphasize two things that apply here. With high lift cams, bronze lifter bores can help keep from sticking a lifter. The bronze is "slicker" than a bare iron bore, and with an agressive high lift cam lobe you get a lot of side loading of the lifter against the bore. Also, if you are running roller lifters you need less oil than a flat tappet. A bushing is an easy way to change the metering hole from the oil gallery to the ID of the lifter bore.

[@joshuagreer6185]

What does a build like this cost?

[@manitoublack]

could run that as a turbo diesel at that compression!!

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

That's what's great about burning alcohol. Lower temps, less chance of detonation and easy to tune at high compression ratios. But you do have to burn a lot of it! Thanks for watching!

[@donniebaker5984]

@@TheHorsepowerMonster I was withdonDuncan racing Brazil Indiana ..we won eldorsa back in the early 90s ..with a Dale Earnhardt Signature Series 434 for making 850 horsepower on methanol at a cost of 50 grand for the engine..p I was at the shop one day when the part start coming in Don said open that box take a look at that crankshaft I pulled it out nice and shiny forged-steel i said it looks pretty good what they set you back for this and he said 4700 bucks for the crank I gently put it back in the box and said this is your baby I'm not starting it uph

[@ldnwholesale8552]

That is what methanol is all about. High compression and no detonation. Or excessive heat either.

[@greghaig2764]

What does the 6" rods do change stroke ?

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

No, it is the crankshaft that controls stroke. But using a longer rod improves the rod/stroke ratio. If you have a long stroke with a short rod, the crank throw will try to push the piston through the cylinder wall. Having a longer connecting rod will help improve the angle so more force is straight up and down, improving the engine's efficiency. Hope that hleps and thanks for watching.

[@fcorivers]

Meth Burner, thought it was a documentary on the ppl that are missing a bunch of teeth in the mobile home park.

[@jareknowak8712]

👍

[@nick4506]

is break-in oil just bad oil? does it come with grit?

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

Not really, but sort of. Break in oil is formulated to still provide a good hydrodynamic wedge so that the bearings will be protected (they don't need to break in after all) but not have the same lubricity (slickness) as a regular motor oil. This helps the rings to seat and if you are running flat-tappet lifters to get them to mate to the cam lobes. It isn't bad for an engine. I know many engine builders that will run break in oil on the dyno and tell the racers to run the engine with the oil in it for the first night before swapping out to their regular oil. Hope this helps.

[@Thumper68]

Good video. To bad he isn’t allowed to dry sump.

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

Thanks! And thanks for watching!

[@jareknowak8712]

I think the lack of dry sump is not a problem.

[@Thumper68]

Jarek Nowak not a problem but would of been nice for power production.

[@bigredracer7848]

Still needs more air flow they should have tried the 950 CFM base plate on at 750 and really woke that motor up change the power valves you can see where it's dipping

[@vengeanceizmine9878]

A 750 carb, with an 850 baseplate is what a 950 is... however it is NOT 950cfm. It's just the name. They do not flow 950cfm. More like 830. Bigger carb on this would definitely make more, but it isn't a drag race application. There is a reason everything used seems "small"...

[@davelowets]

Those drivers need a controllable, linear, response to the throttle at all RPMs. Not a huge carb that only runs right at W.O.T. and at the rev limit. The driver doesn't just get out on the track and hold the throttle to the floor like a drag racer would. They need the throttle response that only the small carb will give them. Smooth, predictable, responsive power is critical in this kind of racing, way more than just top-end power. Throttle response

[@klosnoski]

How different is this engine from a late model?

[@zuestoots5176]

Depends on the sanctioning rules. For us: the B and A mods are relatively close being 350ish CI on pump and 2 barrels Lates run 604 crates.

[@brentonk461]

Nice Engine build, but the lube mixed with the Hairs from a Paint Brush is a bad, Bad idea.

[@christophersmith0865]

I was wondering about that when i watched the mud truck engine build. Just figured hes the pro, so he knows better than myself...

[@attitudeadjusted9027]

No worse than this moron not using a ring expander to install the rings. Do you see the twist he put in them and the scratches down the side of the the pistons where the ends scraped them? Wouldn't let this moron assemble my lawn mower engine.

[@sillygoose2508]

@@attitudeadjusted9027 wow that's hard core I assume you build a more quality product even though you put your two bit opinion out there but don't put your name behind it bye the way bring me up to speed on the attitude adjuster who's attitude needs adjusted and are you really the man for the job

[@attitudeadjusted9027]

@@sillygoose2508 mine.

[@sillygoose2508]

@@attitudeadjusted9027 if you looked closely he actually used a ring expander for the top series of rings that have a more precise fit but we wouldn't want to F up that Briggs and Stratton high dollar engine you're implying that he's not capable of assembling just being a smart ass maybe it's my attitude that needs to be adjusted lol

[@brettlusby8094]

Wonder if his wife cracks the shits with him building all these engines in the kitchen room of their house?

[@trillrifaxegrindor4411]

418,aluminum heads,forged everything.....big dollars

[@rayroberson298]

Dumb question I’m sure how long do the cam roller bearings last… first time seeing that I’m 54 and last racing we did was mid or late 80s

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

Sorry, but the answer is "It depends." Lots of race engine builders will replace roller cam bearings at every rebuild, because they don't want to take a chance of a roller bearing going through the engine. Stronger spring pressure shortens the life of a roller cam bearing. Also, the narrower bearings used in the Chevy R07 or Ford FR9 NASCAR race engines makes for a shorter lifespan. But I've had guys tell me that the roller cam bearings they used in the D3 headed Fords (Windsor based with a Cleveland-style cylinder head) lasted forever. Thanks for watching

[@davelowets]

@@TheHorsepowerMonster Yep.. The only downside to a roller bearing is that if one DOES fail, the little needle rollers scatter throughout the engine, and the result ends up looking like tiny grenades went off all over inside of it trashing everything. Better safe than VERY sorry.

[@HarryT9]

Super nice engine .. I just hope he never has to explain why the oil pickup tube is almost smashed in half ...(11:30) ... that is terrible !!!

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

The curve of the tube is flattened a bit from driving the pickup into the pump, but it is far from smashed in half. The pickup tube can flow much more than the pump, so it doesn't hurt anything. Thanks for watching.

[@HarryT9]

@@TheHorsepowerMonster ... I clearly know why it’s in the condition it’s in ... you know as well as I do that that method of installing the pickup is outdated . There are many tools to install it now, plus many more options that don’t require a BFH. Also what about setting the min/max distance between the pickup face and pan bottom ? Or way to prevent the pickup from falling off. Both are real problems to a quick , high reving race engine .

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

@@HarryT9 Well, you said it was smashed in half and I simply said that it clearly wasn't and the reduction in tube diameter isn't enough to affect flow of the oil pump. And yes, he definitely did check pickup clearance to the bottom of the pan. I simply didn't show it. I do lots of engine builds, and I try not to show the same steps every time. The pickup cannot fall off, it has a tab on it near the pickup screen that bolts to the top of the pump. I am assuming when you mention a way to prevent the pickup from falling off that you may be talking about welding the pickup to the pump. That's not necessary here.

[@yarrdayarrdayarrda]

Never understood why you would put main studs in before dropping in the crank

[@ldnwholesale8552]

Drrr, the studs locate the caps. And seldom ever come out either.

[@yarrdayarrdayarrda]

@@ldnwholesale8552 And yet if you put the crank in first, then threaded in the studs you wouldn't have to navigate the delicate crank journals between them during installation

[@fallout6285]

Do a v12 twin turbo and it is a thang

[@sarabarnes5660]

Any kind of affordable racing is great! “Affordable” sure is a relative term though! Guess I’ll just have to keep street racing the 89 Festiva...

[@Friedbrain11]

Torque over a broad rpm wins!

[@jimstepan3038]

That's the makin's of horsepower !! Horsepower gets the job done ! Torque feels good !

[@youknoweverything7643]

If you want a good oval track carb that makes most power for your application track and motor build or even a drag kr street/ even boat rackng carbs VDL IS the best in the bussiness he use to do almost every single carb for the nascar cup series before they went fuel injected and the forst three years they went fuel injected he built the fuel injection throttle bodies and stuff as well. His carbs alone made my asphalt super stock with a 550 hp built motor go from 525 with a stock holly 850 cfm 4bbl double pumper that had choke horn removed to 550 hp just by bolting his version of that carb and its legal on gauges and all in tech. So for you crate races out there if you want a carburetor to really pick you up a bunch of horsepower and get with vdl vanderly will hook yiu up. My 6o2 in my pro truck now makes 415 crank hp jjst cause of hks carb as well and totally legal

[@brandywine1548]

Lmk when you do a fuel injection engine

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

My KZbin channel is lousy with ‘em.

[@brandywine1548]

Ok

[@Alx2672]

I wonder how with all the different gearing they can keep the engine in the sweet spot for tq so the driver is coming off the corner with power to pull away. Is that math or feel? I mean a tire size differences could change the power band and shift points, there's so many variables. Am I overthinking this?

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

No, you aren't overthinking it. There is a lot of math that can help where you can plug in the size of the track, tire size and torque to get you close, but there are also other factors that fall into the "feel" category when it comes to selecting the best gear ratio. The driver's driving style is a big one, but the chassis setup also affects a lot (forward bite, tight/loose, etc) Thanks for watching!

[@rossracing6433]

Well for one thing, us dirt track guys pretty much all run in direct drive at all times on the track due to the type of transmissions we run, so that eliminates shift points as a factor. It's not super hard to get your gearing dialed in at least close. Just gotta find the right balance between not bogging out of the corners and not hitting the rev limiter too hard at the end of the straights.

[@Alx2672]

@@rossracing6433 wow that's crazy WOT the whole time? That's great. So like a 2 spd trans or no trans just push it to get it rolling?

[@rossracing6433]

@@Alx2672 Not necessarily WOT at all times, in fact a lot of how you drive the car is by manipulating the throttle to help turn the car. Depends on the car. These modifieds generally run a 2-speed, but 1st gear is only used to get the car rolling from a stop. Sprint cars have no trans and require a pushstart.

[@Alx2672]

@@rossracing6433 that's fantastic, bucket list stuff, thanks for the education.

[@jaredalexander3403]

Would this engine be good for a 2k lb street car?

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

I would be a dog to drive at low rpms. Stoplight to stoplight driving would be miserable.

[@jaredalexander3403]

Ohh ok thanks guys

[@donniebaker5984]

Sure would we used to run them on the street and atvthe Indy us Nationals at Raceway Park Indy super stock

[@donniebaker5984]

@@TheHorsepowerMonster that's why on the street Wae run at least 4/88 or 5 13 gears fpull wheelie stop light stop light down Wabash Avenue Terre Haute Indiana take it over to indy at night in the black folks up on 38th Street was block off the whole four lanes and we'd have full quarter mile drags all night long this is the racing capital of the world... what goes on in Indy stays in Indy

[@Roller_ae86]

What about a 1900lbs autox car on hoosier a7 tires? It's a c4 kart with muncie 4spd.

[@marcopolo8584]

That compression, that's how you know it's drinking meth

[@jasonrobertsutliff]

Never understood why my best friend raced IMCA with an engine like this that could be claimed on any given night for less than $2,000.

[@davelowets]

Because he'll never win otherwise..

[@jasonrobertsutliff]

@@davelowets Truth, Sir. 30+ Wins.

[@davelowets]

@@jasonrobertsutliff 😆 🍻

[@danhambrick6331]

Wow!!! I was way off...I guessed 500 hp and 550 tq.....lol.....

[@lancekitchen2972]

Yea thats alot of power n/a for 418ci

[@donniebaker5984]

Fuel ratio on gasoline 13.5 to 1 fuel ratio on methanol 4.0 to 1..almost three times more fuel and burn upba 55gallon drum in a night @ $600 buck a drum

[@scottm7341]

Why a 23 degree head? Rules?

[@vengeanceizmine9878]

Yes. Rules.

[@michaelvrooman5681]

Illegal for IMCA modifieds. I wonder how this engine sizes up with a Sputs on the tracks ?

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

Of course, it was built to race UMP A Mods.

[@michaelvrooman5681]

@@TheHorsepowerMonster will it bolt directly into a passenger car and drive away as per the UMP rule book ?

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

michael vrooman Yes. It has standard motor mounts and a Chevy bellhousing bolt pattern.

[@michaelangelo8001]

@@michaelvrooman5681 Of course. This is an old recipe. I've built several for the street.

[@randallmason9687]

Narrator sounds familiar.

[@lte008]

Needs a bigger head. CI eats runner volume.

[@vengeanceizmine9878]

For max power in a drag race application, yes. Not in this type of racing. Whole different world. There is a reason camshafts, carbs and cylinder heads are on the small side.

[@michaelangelo8001]

Looked like a Chevrolet to me.

[@wayneireland4802]

Cool vid see dirt track engine's. I know this gentleman owns he own shop but I constantly see professional engine builders putting there hands all over engine bearings leaving acid from skin and don't see setting bearing crush why is that?

[@DrTittieSprinkles]

There's cardboard dust on the bearings when you pull them out of the package. I've been building engines professionally for 10 years and my boss 35 years and we've never seen an engine failure due to touching the bearings

[@jareknowak8712]

Grease from hands = mineral oil :)

[@44R0Ndin]

@@jareknowak8712 Technically no such thing as "mineral oil" as all oil was formed from formerly living plants and animals, so the name "mineral oil" is a misnomer. However, the thing typically referred to as "mineral oil" is quite a bit different chemically than skin oils, with skin oils being much more acidic and obviously salty due to the almost impossible to exclude sweat. However, in the amounts deposited, it's pretty harmless to most metals. We're not talking halogen headlight bulbs here.

[@jareknowak8712]

@@44R0Ndin True!

[@jareknowak8712]

@@44R0Ndin My hands are 10W30 :D

[@kendallehman5302]

I feel like this might be a bit out of my price range.

[@davelowets]

You have to pay to play..

[@fbombcamaro434]

Sbc 434 goes these days with 800hp on pump fuel. Much more reliable than methanol.

[@digitaloverdrivesystems]

Looked up the PBM rods - $602 each...... Ridiculous unless you're already screwing someone else along the way...

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

I looked up the rods after reading your comment. The PBM site is definitely misleading, but I'm almost positive they are $600 for a set of eight. I think when the website lists each, they are talking about one set of eight, not one single rods. But it definitely is confusing. Regardless, thanks for watching

[@ericjohnson8482]

Can you still claim the top 4 winners engines? I'd hate to have one like this claimed if I was winning with it.

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

I'm not sure if this applies to the "A" Mod class, which is the top class for the UMP Mods where this will race, but the UMP does still allow engine claims. It is pretty restrictive, though. I don't know it all, but these days you can only claim the engine of the winning driver and if you are going to make a claim you have to finish that race on the lead lap. So you can't roll out there with some clapped out junkyard motor and claim a legit race engine for $550. If you are going to finish on the lead lap at these races you've got to be pretty competitive yourself. Plus, claiming engines instead of investing in your own racing program is a pretty dirt move in most people's books, and anyone who does it usually gets shunned by the other racers in the pits. It can get pretty lonely if you are that guy, so it is very rare. But you are right, I'd hate to lose a beast like this to an engine claim. Thanks for watching!

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

@Mike B In the lower levels of oval track racing, it is a way to try to keep teams from way outspending the competition. Usually if you are in the top three or so anyone that finished below you can claim your engine. Usually about $700 or so. But the reality is the practice is frowned upon by competitors so it is rarely done.

[@throwindirt9187]

Surprised to see them use methanol. Thought the common thought these days was it burns to much and throws your weights out of wack. Most of the cars in my area including my late model run gas

[@donniebaker5984]

If you want to win putnamville are the World 100 at Eldora you're going to run methanol or get run over

[@ldnwholesale8552]

End of story petrol will never make the power. And petrol is far less safe as well. Though yes you use a good deal more.

[@joelpaape8748]

Twice the fuel, engine runs a lot cooler. The methanol is cheaper as well.

[@brentonk461]

It's running out to early

[@burnychaplin4601]

Only 600 lift on the camshaft is why it starts dropping off around 7000 rpms but that's not a Bad idea with the long stroke gearing will make the engine work well.

[@nunyabidness105]

Imca is garbage you have to buy a cheated crate for 10 15k on trac controll or run in back. kudos for crate killin!

[@bigblock67camaro]

So the 400$ claimer rule doesn't exist anymore? That was the rule in the 90's, and if you claimed a motor, the unwritten rule among drivers the following week were to take you out!

[@rossracing6433]

That's why it doesn't exist anymore. There are still parts you can claim, but no one ever does cause they'll get wrecked or get their asses kicked in the pits.

[@chadalac1977]

Never knew ump had a claimer rule . I know imca did or do !

[@robbiejorgensen4142]

Um..... modified aren’t cheap

[@richardfinney3179]

Why not use bee hive springs better harmonics less weight longer life

[@vengeanceizmine9878]

Yeah, in a street car. Not in this environment.

[@davelowets]

"Meth" amps up engines along with humans... 🤷🏻

[@ikermoreno439]

too many in vido commercials im out

[@zeroyon4562]

My understanding of it is KZbin has changed the way it does its ads recently, it won't be the fault of the channel. KZbin automatically adds midroll ads in to the video, and I don't think they can be removed anymore, hence all the ads. It's a cheeky ploy to push people to get KZbin premium.

[@jareknowak8712]

@@zeroyon4562 Google: "YT Vanced"

[@chasewebber4316]

Lol dont go checkout cleetus McFarland that man has ads after ads in every video nowadays

[@zeroyon4562]

@@jareknowak8712 Interesting, thanks! I use ad blocker pro on my pc though, hardly watch on my phone now.

[@ikermoreno439]

@@chasewebber4316 it is a little bit more entertaining and more production value but yeah

[@daveborst1931]

Nice engine, I just can’t get over how ugly these cars are. If you look up BriSCA or dutch stockcars they’re quite similar to these cars, but way better looking

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

I kind of agree with you. I used to love the look of the dirt mods, but don't so much any more. Because of aerodynamics they are making the sail panels so large it throws off the entire balance of the car -- at least from the looks standpoint. I think they looked a lot better 10 years ago.

[@donniebaker5984]

@@TheHorsepowerMonster and 40 years ago we were required to have full fiberglass bodies of exactly the car we were claiming that it was and we use rubber front ends on them to save a little bit of cash but it was quite expensive that's where the sheet metal bodies came from people getting tired of spending thousands for paint and glitter instead of faster motors

[@ldnwholesale8552]

aaaaggghh. Brisca junkers are iron junkies. I agree these cars are butt ugly and all fall over cornering with rear steer.

[@byronboost]

the drivers use fume masks?

[@TheHorsepowerMonster]

It isn't as irritating as nitromethane, but it can definitely make your eyes water. Thanks for watching!

[@DrTittieSprinkles]

No. Full face helmets are required by sanctioning bodies and tracks

[@byronboost]

methanol isn’t supposed to be toxic if breathe

[@DrTittieSprinkles]

@@byronboost You shouldn't breathe any exhaust from a combustion engine but no one wears a respirator to drive their daily.

[@byronboost]

DrTittieSprinkles daily drives don’t use MEthyl. Alcohol

[@rexhepnikqi3946]

GO ELECTRIC ITS THE BEST..ITS THE END OF COMBUSTION ENGINES.

[@timewarpvideo6244]

Dirt track racing should take over now that NASCAR is on the way out

[@mrschwifty5564]

Go Woke Go Broke.

[@michellepugh2859]

@camaroguy 66 there's a rope on my pit door !!!! I mean it's a noose!! Everyone feel sorry for me. Making millions of dollars and its still not enough attention? Wants to be a victim too.

[@attitudeadjusted9027]

They'll just hang BLM banners around the outside wall before long. Gotta bend the knee to the and raise the fist to BLM INC.

[@michellepugh2859]

@@attitudeadjusted9027 I am what I am and I'm not ashamed of how I feel !! I care about blm as much as they care about me....fucking ZERO!!

[@mrschwifty5564]

@@attitudeadjusted9027 I'll die on feet before I kneel to anyone.