Hyundai/Kia/Genesis EV Sept 2024 Software Update

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[@StephenByersJ]

I get it Hyundai. We already bought the cars and we’re two generations of head units behind. It’s not worth much effort for these updates. But please, before you abandon us completely, ADD THE MANUAL PRECONDITIONING BUTTON. We clearly cannot rely on timely updates to Nav, and right now Nav is the only want to precondition.

[@opb324]

@@StephenByersJ Genuine question. What is so bad about the built-in nav?

[@billgoldberg2294]

@@opb324 well in my case it has gotten me lost 2 of the 4 times ive used it

[@ChuckvdL]

@@opb324I expect that the detailed answer to that is changing as I update.. But simply put, “it’s not {preferred nav app}”. In my case that would be Waze, but for others 🤷‍♂️

[@nitrobenz1694]

@@opb324long term the issue is a question of how often it gets updated… if at all. It also loses a lot of functionality of you don’t pay for it once the free period runs out.

[@opb324]

@nitrobenz1694 I think the most important thing that needs to stay up to date is charger station location. This does happen even without the OTA updates. What free period are you talking about?

[@paulovicente2954]

Hi, love your channel. I have a 2024 Ioniq 5. It is my first EV and I truly love this car. I do wish I could have waited for 2025 and a rear wiper but I needed a car. Software can’t fix the lack of a rear wiper but there are some other things that could be improved. I want just five things from you Hyundai. In order of importance to me they are: 1. Persistent i-Pedal. Let me set that as my default and make it stick. 2. Let me use Carplay and Android auto route planning apps to plan and navigate routes with charging stops and integrate that with battery pre-conditioning. 3. Walk away locks. (I know this would put a dent in your sales Corbin. Sorry buddy). 4. Give me the option to manually pre-condition my battery. 5. Move the speedometer reading to the centre of the display. That’s it. Not too much to ask, I think.

[@garyherbert8242]

Someone is inventing one on Kickstarter for Ionic 5 (The Ioniq Guy is going to review soon)

[@liamsharp6491]

@@garyherbert8242inventing the walk away auto lock?

[@jaygaeta9780]

The GV60 update was awesome. In addition to wireless Android Auto (and Apple CarPlay, which I don't use), Android Auto information appears on the head's up display, and as a summary on the screen in front of the steering wheel. As good as the way native navigation is displayed!

[@StachelyPigglyBottom]

I'd love to be clued into why this can't come to Hyundai vehicles. Is there some fundamental difference with Genesis infotainment HW?

[@st4849]

OMG, the 1st meaningful set of updates across the entire model range! I wish they did the same with the I5. In fact I'd like them to drop TomTom and focus on AA full steam.

[@Lord_Reset]

This is because you are using the CCNC system, which is sunstar better and newer.

[@TelekinesisStudios]

Getting CarPlay info in the HUD would be MONUMENTAL.

[@kw_boeing]

@@Lord_Reset No, the GV60 does not use CCNC.

[@COSolar6419]

I am not disappointed with this update because I didn’t have any particular expectations. The route planning changes appear minor but helpful. I’ll be happy to wait for the OTA update. given how glitchy the USB process is. I just wish Hyundai would notify owners when updates are available and a time frame for the OTA updates.

[@justinh7822]

Climate screen was nice to see it was all on one screen now. Really could go for manual preconditioning before winter comes!

[@cframe47]

Thrilled to see they actually did something to the route planning logic. Probably the most important part of the update for me, lol. Thanks as always Corbin!

[@mousepad3000]

Wild that they don't even list the best feature in the update. I got the update last week and was so excited about the seat vent / warmer change... But sports scores? REALLY HYUNDAI? There is obviously some serious disconnect between the people driving the update roadmap at Hyundai and the people who actually use the software.

[@steephill69]

2023 Ioniq 6 owner. Yeah, really wish wireless Apple CarPlay and battery preconditioning were rolled out.

[@jomino]

I have a 2023 I6 SEL and it has battery preconditioning.

[@ambee514]

@@steephill69 honestly wireless CarPlay does nothing for me. I like plugging in for CarPlay so that my phone charges.

[@addsfour3499]

Yup, got my wireless apple car play update for my GV60. Very happy with this upgrade. I bought my car two years ago, so bought it knowing apple car play was wired only. Wireless is sooooo much better. Now if they could just put a rear windscreen wiper on it…..

[@SplatTzu]

I would LOVE a manual precondition button thar you can assign to one of the programmable star buttons.

[@itdaddy2937]

Can’t forget those new sounds of nature 😅

[@fleecystheking]

The climate/warmer buttons update is the MASSIVE quality of life improvement here. That old Warmer screen looked nice, but was locked when in D (couldn’t use the sliders, had to tap the buttons instead). It also had the most annoying bug where if one taps the ventilation seats and wants a lower level of cooling, the system would switch to heating the seats at the highest level instead. I don’t understand why the WARMER screen has to be so small and in the middle of the screen; put giant targets for us to hit instead please. The rest of the screen is empty anyway. But it’s still a welcome fix. Thanks for that Hyundai!

[@Rhynri]

@@fleecystheking *Thats* why the sliders wouldn’t work. Didn’t even think of it and just assumed the UI was trash. Very odd thing to lock out. New UI is what it should have been in the first place.

[@StachelyPigglyBottom]

New climate screen is nice. Otherwise, yeah it's a massive let down given the delays. Even the sports thing no one cares about doesn't work. I also encountered a weird bug where "Driver Only" wouldn't disable properly in climate settings. Seemed fine after the car was off for a while but we'll see if it comes back. Wish they would just enable WirelessAA and add manual precondition. I'd never ask for anything else again!

[@andrewjones67]

Definitely sad that Hyundai doesn’t take its software seriously…. 😒

[@ChiMickE]

In my update the state of charge at navigation is now also displayed. Before the update you had to go find it in the "Add stop" submenu. I'm not that concerned about the wireless Android Auto feature, but I would like the preconditioning button.

[@jboomsticks]

Love this event idea. I’m on the West Coast and wish you best of luck on it.

[@opb324]

I thought the update was fine, although I wasn't expecting anything major (like wireless AA/Carplay). The sports feature and adding stops using voice commands are meh. The new seat warmer/cooling interface is great. The changes to route planning are also good. Getting ridof that initial pop-up screen was much needed. Also, the route overview now shows arrival SoC, percentage to charge to, and duration for each charge stop. It also shows number of stalls and availability, as well as SoC on arrival at your final destination. Manual preconditioning would be great.

[@brucejankowitz4501]

holding my breath for the manual preconditioning. Also, I do my planning, select charging stations for road trips and hope this will not mess me up to much.

[@JoshuaHoLivesHere]

Excited for the meetup, will aim to be there with my Ioniq 6!

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Awesome!

[@Draconis8888]

That meetup sounds fun; wihs I could go. Thanks for the update info.

[@juliendolleans222]

Why is the MY2024 Ioniq 5 still not listed in the Hyundai navigation updater?! Anyway, I recently did the V11 update on my 2024 and everything works fine! Btw, awsome job Corbin 😊

[@jeangoupil8129]

i don't know why they did not show 2024 model, but you can select "2023 Ioniq 5" and it will work. It is what i did witl my 2024 I5

[@MikeNguyen]

Well, after that particular update on sounds of nature... Is it really a surprise how much emphasis they put on this sports feature? (Which is not available to us in Canada in any case) Someone over at Hyundai either needs to do focus groups or reshuffle their priorities on what customers are actually asking for...

[@charlesbaima2662]

The update that I would most appreciate is the ability to slow the charge rate of the fast chargers. We do not always have to bang the battery with 250kw. ..This would increase longevity of battery!!! It is odd that you can slow the rate of the level 1 and 2 chargers but not the fast chargers.

[@VitorHändel]

I still remember when a bought the car, I was told that wireless apple car play was coming.... it was even published on the official site, now it's gone...I wonder why!? what a joke...

[@Dennyjungwirth]

Completely disagree with your opinion on the Navigation system…I have used it for 3 years with Inoniq 5 & 6 and it blows away the tracking google, Waze or Apple Maps. Great re-routing and have always been able to EASILY locate charging stations that I am able to filter to my preferences

[@evRoadTripsSvk]

For the Ioniq 6 in the EU, the summer update still hasn’t arrived :) They probably got stuck on disabling ISA/SLW for the EU :)​

[@KingTechHD]

I want launch mode (regen 0-traction off-full brake-full throttle-release brake) and better sounds of nature. They obviously don’t be in nature 😅

[@denislemenoir]

Is there some fundamental reason why the Ioniq 5 cannot have Apple Airplay? Originally I thought it was because Hyundai didn’t want to pay some kind of licensing fee to Apple, but they’ve obviously eaten that cost now so unclear what the barrier actually is.

[@staticpurge]

I read somewhere along the way that it has to do with the contract Hyundai made with TomTom that required it to be wired for AA/Carplay. I wish they would add it, because my USB port always fails which seems to be a big problem with Ioniq 5's. Then i've gotten in bottom of the line Tuscon's that have wireless AA/Carplay and even a 2019 Chrysler with tomtom maps that still had wireless - very frustrating indeed! I would have guessed Gen5 infotainment just didnt have the wifi hardware required, but if GV60's of the same generation can get the feature retroactively, it must be capable in Hyundai/Kia variants.

[@jean-marcfiliatrault266]

I have an 2024 Ioniq 6! And live in Canada. I now always get a message on the screen when I hit the Start button saying: “Map update required. Contact the Hyundai Bluelink Support.”. Tried the associated 800 number. You get the familial IVR messages, the 7th level deep. It gives you another phone number to call for mapping updates. I called that 800 number. That also was a dead-end. Went to my local Hyundai dealer. The tech told me that mapping updates are not done OTA. You have to go to a Hyundai website and download an exe file onto a USB jump drive. I thought to myself: “You’ve got to be kidding me!!!” Anyhooo, I went to the website in question, and the update was only for the 2023 Ioniq 6 model year. Not the 2024 model year. Then, why do I have the message above appearing on my car screen when I start my car?!?

[@kw_boeing]

Man, I'm sad I can't come to the cars and coffee! I'm about 2,000 miles away near Salt Lake City, UT. If you ever have an event out west count me in!

[@patrick3301]

Its my understanding that OTA does not work in Canada, you have to use a USB or the dealer to install any updates.

[@RobertMcClure]

November 3rd is actually when my work slows down I might be able to attend this event and bring my ionic 5 d100 too!

[@TheIoniqGuy]

That would be cool! I haven’t seen one in person yet

[@GlitterGuru]

I consider the new HVAC screen to be a big win, the original was so confusing. If only we can update the illusive“Warmer” button…

[@bicoastalguy]

They also cleaned up the charging screen in the Bluelink app. Nothing huge but the interface is a little cleaner and you can easily turn on preconditioning. I wish they would make the maps more readable, especially in night mode.

[@brianmaupin9197]

You cannot turn on Pre-conditioning from the app even with the addition of the item in the menu. It only displays the status of whether or not the feature is enabled in the infotainment system. Really a pretty pointless addition as you cannot interact with the control.

[@robsquared2]

There are rumors that even though Ioniq cars have hotspots that they're just not physically capable of wireless carplay/auto so I basically gave up immediately and got a wireless adapter.

[@kylestealth]

Love your channel man. Thanks for all the good reviews and info. Helped me pick the EV I wanted. Wish I could make the event but I live in SC. 😁

[@MartysRandomStuff]

The new seat climate controls are the best part of this update. Something I've seen but not mentioned is there are now construction zone icons on the map along with the new stop light icons. So now the map must be getting live data about construction zones?

[@blast3001]

The meetup sounds awesome but I’m on the wrong coast and can’t attend

[@drewmenges8430]

I just bought an Ioniq 6 about a week and a half ago. As far as I can tell, I don't have this update yet. I believe I should have had it OTA. Is there a way to force the vehicle to search for this update? Thanks for any info you can give 👍

[@TassieEV]

Kona Electic I've not heard of but must be a new model. ;) Unfortunately unable to make your meet-up event for one living across the other side of the globe to you but also involved in another Electric vehicle event where I live.

[@michaelbianchi7639]

Corbyn, You often say you are about "all things Hyundai, Ioniq 5, ...". But in this update video you say "I don't use the built-in navigation". But there are those of us out here that _do_ use the Built-In Navigation (because I don't want to fuss with a cell phone while driving). May I suggest you bite-the-bullet and learn enough about the BIN to serve those of us who do. Compare-and-contrast episodes between the different BINs in the different cars _and_ between them and whatever nav system you do use would be of use your audience. And while I am here: Have you suffered any confusion switching between the Ioniq 5 and 6 because of the steering wheel controls layout? It would appear that the Ioniq 6 design will be the standard from here on, but I don't see the need for the swap in the first place. ((congrats on what you are doing; have fun Cars and Coffee ...))

[@TheIoniqGuy]

It’s funny that you say that. Yesterday, I did some navigation with Hyundais system going back to Boston from CT. After this update, I’m now feeling like it’s gotten to a point where it’s actually fairly usable especially if you have a car with a HUD and can see your instructions in that versus not with AA/CarPlay. I will definitely be doing at least one video on the system and using it for some travel

[@cydeweyz]

I’m guessing the reason for the delay of the first update of 2024 is to prepare for the Tesla super charging software. The second update for 2024 will probably coincide with the Tesla supercharger software integration that we will have to go to the dealer to get updated.

[@ChuckvdL]

I have no sports item on the menu in my genesis. Not sure I’m disappointed. I’ll gladly take the wireless CarPlay in liew of a sports tab

[@StorytellerSueW]

Background music is WAYYYY too loud. And distracting. I'll just download and read the transcript. Great update, even if not much. I do like the nav stuff, though.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

There’s no background music for the majority of the video

[@StorytellerSueW]

@@TheIoniqGuy I figured it out, TY!

[@yuvrajrallapalli1268]

Please let us know if you manage to fix your bluelink pairing issue with sports/hyundai pay. It seems to be a common issue for a lot of people

[@d.j.5872]

While lack luster, its a Hyundai not a Tesla. Is it dumb to not update to wireless carplay/AA? yes, very dumb. Does the sports app work? nope. but outside of those two things this is the type of "update" i expect from "legacy car makers" to me the only two things truly missing from the ioniq 5 is auto lock and wireless carplay/AA. anything else they add/tweak outside of maps/charger updates is a bonus.

[@rob8969]

The seat climate is definitely nice. I thought it was interesting that Chargepoint’s chargers are in Hyundai pay now and am thinking Tesla will be added to that when they open that soon

[@ChuckvdL]

Is that how they’re going to handle payment when you plug and charge? Makes it hard to use a discounted charging plan..

[@rob8969]

@@ChuckvdLpure speculation by me but I’d imagine they would

[@TelekinesisStudios]

It is so frustrating to drive, arguably, the best hardware electric car on the market, with if not THE worst software, at least some of the worst. I just want an Ioniq 5 with Rivian software. Is that too much to ask?

[@opb324]

Genuine question. What do you think is so bad about the software?

[@kyleraine2395]

Any info on how many chargers added to navigation to help with preconditioning in winter?

[@EVJACK]

HYUNDAI truly don’t listen to what us owners want 😅 “oh I know let’s push out sports scores” 🙄 the app and infotainment system is so dated for such a brand new car

[@blackomega99]

I’ve got a 2020 palisade and the previous update wouldn’t install at all stating wrong version even though I used their app. This update did install without issue however it broke bluelink. Not impressed given the delays.

[@krishaynes8130]

Will the Ioniq 6 get wireless CarPlay do you think? Mine arrives in about 4 weeks 😬

[@scootercrossking]

I got the update on my Kia EV6 and experience the same issue when trying to access the Sports app, keeps saying Kia Connect activation is required even though it is.

[@Molishious]

Corbin at the end of the latest episode of “Batteries Included”, Kyle Connor mentions that he’s meeting with Hyundai engineers to talk about e-gmp cars charging on super chargers and then will make a video about it. As another person planning on buying a 2025 I5 I’m disappointed in how it will charge on super chargers and so I’m interested in the topic. Thought you might be too. The only other disappointment is the lame fob. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Kyle texted me and let me know and I sent him some questions that you guys have been asking me so he may press them on Superchargers

[@Molishious]

@@TheIoniqGuy Thanks, that’s good news. I’m not expecting that Tesla will improve upon the situation any time soon, but short of that it’s nice to just have the information to understand why things are as they are. It’s not a dealbreaker to me obviously, but it is disappoining.

[@tjackele]

Any range improvements in the update? I recently switched to using level 3 instead of Auto regen and was surprised my mile per KW went up a lot. 30%. Guessing that is just the regen change.

[@stigidty]

My range has gone up as well about 20 percent. I don’t know if it has to do the fact the weather has been in only the high 80s vs high 90s or the update.

[@tjackele]

@@stigidty mine was the same 20% but my temps were mid 60 to 77.

[@Yanquetino]

Well… a few changes, but nothing major. It wouldn’t surprise me if it’s just a temporary holdover toward a much more significant upgrade when the 2025 IONIQ 5 rolls off the line in Georgia.

[@theshipmasterbanished3902]

Ughhh i just want hyundai to add wireless apple car play to the ioniq 5 already. Its so annoying that they said that they already added it on the previous update but im unable to use it. Like come on and another important thing is the MANUAL PRECONDITION BUTTON we need that asap.

[@davelavigne2133]

The warmer button is now pointless with the additional seat warmer/cooler in the climate screen where it should be.

[@ChuckvdL]

I can use the button entirely by feel without taking my eyes off the road. It’s great to have in n the screen if the passenger is tuning the climate, but please don’t take my button away.

[@JamesForemanApparently]

Another odd thing: i used to have the wifi hotspot available in settings, and since the OTA update it's vanished, which is nice, because I'm still stuck payinhg Verizon $20 a month for it until I can figure out how to unsubscribe...

[@ricardomejia4336]

it was about time we got sports scores….its been too long.

[@Kellettcj71]

GV70 owner. Love CarPlay. Sports app- it’s there but it doesn’t work. Says I need to active services- which I already have. Any suggestions?

[@rogerlachance632]

Just went on the Hyundai Canada website. The new update is shown but the list of eligible vehicles does not include the 2024 Ioniq 5. It includes the 2022,2023 and 2025 Ioniq 5N. That is weird !

[@jeangoupil8129]

yes it is weird, but just select 2023 Ioniq 5 model, it will work good

[@Jaytonic3]

I'm curious of what is your experience using non-built-in gps. Can you have the car preheating automatically? Is the HUD still usefull? Since its android auto and not google automotive, does it allow you to plan for chargers stops?

[@ChuckvdL]

That depends a lot on what nav app you are using, and its integration with CarPlay/andriodauto. Preconditioning is only activated by the in-car nav set to a charger, which is why we are all asking for a manual button. Setting a destination in a CarPlay nav app cancels in-car nav, and vise versa. Like the Highlander, there can be only one (app giving directions). If I want to have Waze warning of hazards, and preconditioning going I have to run Waze on a tablet that’s not CarPlay. HUD usability has been limited but we have reports here that with Android there’s better HUD integration, but not specifically what has improved. I haven’t tested the newest CarPlay to see if I get anything in the HUD or directions dashboard widget when using Waze. (Update just installed, and it’s crappy weather to test drive right now)

[@jeanmalouin9797]

Hi Corbin. How come in the update navigator installer doesn't provide for the 2024 Ioniq5 model? Should I download the 2023 G5W update for my 2024? Thanks for your reply.

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Yes, it’s the same system as 2023. I have no idea why they completely omit an entire model year from the list. Makes no sense whatsoever

[@jeanmalouin9797]

@@TheIoniqGuy thanks so much for the info. Sometimes you wonder how they build such great vehicles and they can't get the simple stuff straight. Always watch you and you went passed my home in Drummondville on your way to Québec city.

[@davidgiles9751]

Do these updates include enhancements from previous ones? In other words, if I skipped the previous update, will this one have it's features in addition to the latest features?

[@fleecystheking]

Yes, they do. Just install the latest and you’ll get it all.

[@eevie03]

The sports results thing feels like a real slap in the face for any car owner with Gen5W. All We want is battery preconditioning button, wireless AA.. what a joke.

[@pdculbert]

Great thumbnail 😂.

[@stunna1x]

I updated my 2020 G80 sport and no wireless android auto!!

[@EltWilder]

Have fun with the event! Been to many fun Hyundai meets over the years.

[@Yot359]

European Ioniq 5 had that spports button all the way since the beginning / 2021 and whats funny is that it was only sports that were completely irrelevant to europeans, NFL, NBA, MBL.... im surprised it was not a thing in the us, knowing that it was a very north american centic sports feature

[@axion8788]

Are you saying the that the Navigation system was updated OTA?????

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Yeah, they’ve come OTA for nearly two years now

[@axion8788]

@@TheIoniqGuy Thanks for the quick reply. Has anyone else noticed that the names for most side streets are simply not displayed! This is why I always use Google Maps (via a wireless Motorola dongle).

[@bazerk856]

@axion8788 yes agree. Very disappointed as I am a taxi driver it would be very useful. So I use android auto with Google maps

[@Tehral]

Really disappointed with the update...

[@mike73ng]

It baffling why Hyundai makes the effort to build a great car but completely drops the ball with respect to dealership and after purchase support. I bought a Genesis in 2017 betting that I’d be happy with the “Genesis” experience soon after purchase. Three years later it was worse (Covid didn’t help) with no signs of improvement on the horizon. I sold the G90. Now I’ve taken the plunge into the EV world with the I5. So far so good but the dealer experience is still subpar. Fortunately I don’t have to deal with them much. Sad.

[@ChuckvdL]

I don’t think I’ve heard anyone rave about how great the service dept is at their EV dealer. But I would expect better from the brands charging a premium for a supposedly better experience. Fortunately the service required for a GV60 is nearly all rotating tires, and occasionally inspecting things. But unfortunately appointments are booked solid for weeks. who plans tire rotations more than a month in advance?

[@Type_ant]

Look, all I want is a regular gauge cluster instead of this ugly looking cluster they got going on

[@SOLExSupreme]

Pointless update…. Even though I have no expectations somehow it still disappoints.

[@howardschoenberger3526]

More useless stuff. Why can't they do useful stuff like my Tesla model 3 does. We took a road trip with that car recently rather than our Ioniq5 to use their charging network. The software just maps it out for you, it shows how many chargers are there and how many are in use and it also shows how many cars are approaching the charger so you can figure if you want to deal with crowds there or not.

[@Type_ant]

Look, all I want is a regular gauge cluster instead of this ugly looking cluster they got going on