Theist Caller Traded One Bogus God (Jehovah's Witness) for Another | Matt Dillahunty + Jimmy Snow

Dominic calls in to explain his belief in God. He describes his background in Jehovah's Witness and how he came to believe God is everything in the universe. The hosts ask Dominic to clarify which God he believes in. Dominic cites mystical and paranormal ideas as his reasons for believing in a creator God.
The hosts repeatedly ask for evidence and definitions to back up Dominic's claims. Dominic avoids directly answering and the conversation grows frustrating. The hosts point out Dominic's lack of evidence and inability to stay focused on their questions. They end the call as it has become clear Dominic cannot support his claims.
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[@ARKenMan]

I feel like the 12th dimension doesn't get enough credit

[@brentwalker8596]

I'm still listening to The 5th Dimension.

[@juanpabloduarte2001]

How the hell are you on the 12th? Dude I’m barely on the 9 dimension, and I barely made it past the 8th dimension. What’s your build? Are you a spellcaster or bezerk build?

[@TheTruthKiwi]

I'm on the 14th dime man. Got a killer bag of turquoise piledriver kush from my dealer. 11 and 13 are overrated man. 🥴

[@mikeythehat6693]

😉

[@nightwalkerj]

the 12th dimension is the underdog in this story.

[@telfordguy34uk]

And there you have it , if you can believe in a god , you can believe in literally anything .😢 its very very concerning .

[@mulletsandmustaches8656]

💯

[@royroy3]

Yup.

[@Redx3257]

Agreed… it’s disturbing and shocking

[@chrisdsouza8685]

It's no wonder that Republicans believe that Ex Pres Total Dump's the return of Jesus.

[@bmoshareholderappleshareho855]

You might as well believe in Santa Claus too.

[@cshubs]

He stopped believing in the god of the LDS and switched to the god of LSD.

[@petermeichan3160]

nice

[@bookwermofthefandoms]

Jehovah's witness aren't LDS, that's the Mormon

[@PortmanRd]

LSD might be a way to crack the code of tongues. 😂

[@albaniahenry-franklin2829]

That is a good one🤣🤣

[@bronsonedward]

I sense only truth in this comment. Lol

[@codatheseus5060]

"which god do you believe in and why" What theists hear "Tell me your life story"

[@valeriew4833]

I think it's because the indoctrination becomes so much a part of you and your identity that you can't even compartmentalize. You can't isolate "belief" within the timeline of your life and speak just to that because for many, believing is in every aspect of your life and what you do. Especially given kids are targeted, they grow up with these ideas stunting their thinking ability. I think that's why it's hard for people to think about and answer that question in a succint way.

[@brucebaker810]

Or "I'm an atheist. Please give me your Testimony."

[@SPL0869]

Not only do people like Dominic vote, procreate and are allowed to own firearms; they are sometimes given nuclear launch codes.

[@Josiah-f6p]

Yay -_-

[@noone3216]

Haha we were safer when he was a JW, cos they don't vote or own firearms (unless it's relevant to their life, like a farmer or something like that). And launch codes? Forget about it - that's got something to do with the government. They avoid gov like the plague... until it comes to claiming welfare or other benefits.

[@cheys7373]

When you think about it religion is often like an addiction. I was raised JW by my mother who was a drug addict, she traded the drugs for a religion that gave her a similar feeling of euphoria when she did something perceived as correct in the eyes of God, or the elders. The Jehovah's witnesses really drill into you the NEED for a God, honestly if it were not for shows like this I probably would have fell into the same shit with some other religion. Because the feelings you get from being in a cult feel good! Until they don't just like drugs...I'm grateful that I was able to find you guys, so thank you for not only helping me transition out of a cult but also stay out of another one in search for answers that I would never get.

[@undrwatropium3724]

As a recovering addict I agree. Most people that I go to narcotics anonymous with switch from drugs to religion.

[@valeriew4833]

It's almost like she was in search of someone or thing to dictate her life. Grateful that you broke free from that

[@petyrkowalski9887]

The JWs prey on the weak and troubled.. they are a nasty bunch of charlatans.

[@adamantiumbullet9215]

*"The Jehovah's witnesses really drill into you the NEED for a God"* Not just "a" god- THE God. Theirs. More accurately, the JWs drill into you the need for an *organization* that can give you access to god. Watchtower leaders are the intermediaries, and without them, access to the Sky Fairy is no bueno.

[@guytheincognito4186]

Religion is said to be the opiate of the people.

[@buchanfoulsham6314]

Weve got a kingdom hall where i live in Cornwall, uk. As an atheist in no danger of being 'recruited'; I do my community a service whenever they're out and about doing housecalls, by wasting as much of their time as possible at my door. I'm always inquisitive and polite, but i always challenge their biggotted, exclusionary guff. By doing this I feel like I'm saving more people than they are 😂

[@skepticsandscoundrels]

If you play your cards right (be polite, display interest in their message, don't put off any "apostate" vibes), you can usually get the JWs to reengage with you _numerous times_ in future return visits. You can really go far with wasting their time.

[@petermeichan3160]

good job man,

[@buchanfoulsham6314]

@@skepticsandscoundrels I'm 4 visits in with the same pair 🤣

[@brianwarshow129]

Invite them in and go full throttle, agree and start speaking in tongues. Have them to chant along with you, for good measure. I think about it as a form of community service, waste their time so others don't suffer. "When the going gets weird, the weird go pro". - Hunter S. Ha!

[@petermeichan3160]

@@brianwarshow129 Eddie Griffin does a great bit about dealing with JW's

[@solly119119]

Dominic is a great example of my opinion that many (perhaps most) theists don't really believe; they just want to. Uncovering why that is seems the best way to try and get through to them.

[@claudiaarjangi4914]

There's no shame in being raised/ taught from people that had out-dated faulty data.. It takes an honest person to admit their beliefs are based on that faulty data.. And it takes a truly honest person can admit that their beliefs were wrong because of that.. 😁☮️🌏

[@Starhawke_Gaming]

My god lives in the 23rd dimension and created Dominic's god in an effort to experience the 11th dimension. 😂

[@livemoonbday]

Haha my god is from the 46th dimension and created yours to experience the 23rd. My dad is better than yours 😂

[@AlexisL-q2u]

Or 13th.

[@magnetiktrax]

I had a martial arts teacher who told me, when he accidentally cut himself while cooking, entered the 14th dimension to heal himself. I never took another lesson from him. He also screamed at another pupil who said they had started reading the I-Ching. "You don't know what you're getting into!" Yeah he did, he was getting into a fairytale book.

[@al4nmcintyre]

I missed that part of math history where the Egyptians had a concept of mathematical dimensions, much less 11 or 13 of them.

[@mikefoster6018]

Yes. And he says they were one god consciousness, but I'm pretty sure they were a pantheon.

[@TheBeatle49]

Math teacher here: the Egyptians had concepts of location, distance, area, and volume. So they would have some notion of 1, 2, and 3 (and perhaps 0) dimensions.

[@mikefoster6018]

@@4Mr.Crowley2 I've noticed a real trend among Christians and Muslims in claiming that some - or often all - other religions are all monotheistic. I think they seriously over-stretch in some examples. I can almost agree when they say it regarding Hinduism, but when they start saying it regarding ancient Egypt, Amazonian tribes, Paganism etc it all gets a bit false. (Egypt did have a sort of monotheism about the sun-disk but not for long). Their motivation, typically, is to try to use slightly odd philosophical spin to claim logical proofs of one driving force, with agency and a mind, predating everything. By trying to get atheists to also agree that other religions are monotheistic, they aim to prevent the atheist challenging them with "how do you know your religion is right and xxxxxxx religion is wrong" ... as their answer then is simply "they're ultimately worshipping my god."

[@flawedgenius]

@@TheBeatle49 Three spacial dimensions plus time is four dimensions

[@crabbitwife5463]

Is there no end to the madness of human beings?

[@murali-alive]

there is, surrender yourself to God, you won't have reincarnations and that means you never get to experience human madness for all eternity.

[@kgal9657]

Usually at death, at least for the living as heretofore known

[@digbycrankshaft7572]

​@@murali-alivewhy would he surrender to madness in order to escape madness?

[@murali-alive]

@@digbycrankshaft7572 so what, the goal of escaping madness is achieved right?

[@TheHookahSmokingCaterpillar]

No. Unfortunately.

[@farhanfiroz7192]

"Based on my research🤓☝🏻" " i would believe what i want to believe "

[@janerkenbrack3373]

The problem appears almost immediately. The chap read some things and believed them, and then concluded that he had been doing research. Later he did more "research" by reading and believing some more things, so long as they supported his new beliefs.

[@ironsausage808]

Pretty sure he read conversations with god by Neale Donald Walsch. The whole God experiencing himself through us, fractal god thing. Honestly it makes more sense then the Bible, but is still more likely than not incorrect.

[@Heathen.Deity.]

This is the kind of bumblenugget that makes flat Earth still a thing.

[@sheikhyaboooty]

Sadly so many people are happy to exchange one slave collar for another slightly less uncomfortable one.

[@consciouslyevolvingmen6832]

True, but at least it seems like he's questioning/trying...

[@thedeebo410]

He just swapped one set of unjustified authorities for another set. Some Iron Age guys that wrote their opinions and mythology down aren't more or less authoritative than some early medieval guys that wrote their opinions and mythology down. The caller is just as gullible as he was before, it's just directed at another set of nonsensical beliefs.

[@brynpookc1127]

He actually said the temple region of the brain! Wow, really educated.

[@mort8143]

not 'temporal'?

[@IanM-id8or]

The "proper philosophy" for "proving" Dominic's claims is the philosophy of believing any bullshit you're fed - obviously. It's the philosophy Dominic subscribes to

[@karlrschneider]

I have a neighbor who sits on his porch talking into an empty Campbell's soup can, and tells me in all seriousness that he's "on the phone" with Albert Einstein. Compared to this guy, my neighbor is completely rational and sane.

[@TheTruthKiwi]

See if you can get your neighbor to call in man 😂😂😂

[@indiegun]

@@TheTruthKiwi Why bother? He'll just have a bunch of canned responses to whatever they ask him.

[@TheTruthKiwi]

@@indiegun 😂😂😂 good one man.

[@freakishuproar1168]

@@indiegun Heh... x3

[@bookie5667]

Check if there's a bit of string coming out the bottom of the can.... if there is then... don't interrupt him because he's on the phone! 😊

[@dimitrioskalfakis]

not only looking for god in all the wrong places (nature) but also presuming there is a god to search for. sounds like a never ending story that leads to no answers and also a pointless one. the rest of the conversation was a tragic train wreck.

[@frankchinembiri1308]

wow going on a hike and seeing a beaver is my favourite Colour too

[@charisma-hornum-fries]

Some people are just very desperate to believe in something that removes them from responsibility and actual living.

[@spybird5870]

pretty sure that's because of brainwashing since toddlerhood like most societies, not because it's "innate".

[@hdub8093]

"Let me throw EVERYTHING and ANYTHING I've heard of, and kinda read, and kinda sloppily put together and make sense of my B.S"... Thanks for nothing Dominic..

[@skepticsandscoundrels]

24:10 - This guy should write a paper: "Argument for God from the Morality of Head-Cracking."

[@TheRaven_200]

His "Proper Philosophy" for "proving" a god, I recon is the Philosophy of: "Believing any crap I hear, no matter how ridiculous or contradictory."

[@johnpropwash6829]

Matt & Jimmy easily debunk all gods just by using their brains. If only religious people would try that.

[@definitivamenteno-malo7919]

But that makes them atheists. Like me, who is also an Ex-JW

[@bruderk4257]

@definitivamenteno-malo7919 I prefer calling myself a JW-survivor. How long are you out ?

[@definitivamenteno-malo7919]

@@bruderk4257 I won't call me a survivor, because I'm still being affected, if you wanna know why. I'm 10 years out or so. Well, no. 12 years since PIMO, but faded at 23, so 7 years out.

[@bruderk4257]

@definitivamenteno-malo7919 First of all congratulations for saving yourself. And affected are we all. How could we not. But we ate better of than Dominic here. What tje organisation has done to his brain is horrific. I feel bad for him.

[@definitivamenteno-malo7919]

@@bruderk4257 Yeah, couldn't say it better. Congrats to you too!

[@petermeichan3160]

this caller reminds me of David Icke, those in the UK will be very familiar with him

[@FlyinZX10R]

The guy who plays soccer with lizard people?😂

[@mulletsandmustaches8656]

And tons of other spiritual people ✨️ wrapped up in this stuff

[@petermeichan3160]

@@FlyinZX10R the correct name is football not soccer, but yes that nutcase

[@petermeichan3160]

@@mulletsandmustaches8656 What is spiritual exactly ?

[@mulletsandmustaches8656]

@@petermeichan3160 Those that despise structured religion, but still grab onto a form of God. A ton of them In the truther movement or conspiracy theorist groups

[@ronalddepesa6221]

One of my ex's was an ex JW. She never answered direct questions. I pretty sure it was directly from her JW upbringing. I would ask here even simple questions like "what time is it". She would reply "it's that time". Drove me nuts

[@julesmasseffectmusic]

I did the opposite, I worked in law. I answer only the question asked and I am precise. Drove my wife nuts. She would ask me to check the outhouse for bugs, I never said there were none, I said I didn't see any. Training, certainty is never a thing. She would ask do you know the time, I would look at my watch and say either yes or now I do. That was me being an arsehole

[@ronalddepesa6221]

@@julesmasseffectmusic hahaha. Love it

[@magnetiktrax]

"it's that time" Time for a divorce.

[@ronalddepesa6221]

@@magnetiktrax hahahahahaha. Bingo

[@noone3216]

Imagine being in the unfortunate position of being on the other side - sadly everyone I date has to date an exJW haha 🥲

[@timg7627]

“I’ve made up a bunch of stuff so I’m going to believe it and you can’t stop me” -Dominic

[@QMulative]

I'd be so tempted to just badger the caller to stop their rambling look-at-the-bees-look-at-the-trees stuff, like, "Is it Yahweh? It's Yahweh isn't it? You can say Yahweh if it's Yahweh"

[@vvanheukelum]

Something tells me Dominic's favorite YT channel is Spirit Science

[@scottsmith2235]

Dominic has said “first of all…” 15 times.

[@ritchie6162]

I feel bad for him. Jehovah’s Witnesses generally have to live EXTREMELY sheltered and religiously-fueled lives, far more so than mainstream religious communities. Trying to understand atheism coming from a culture like that would be unbelievably difficult.

[@noone3216]

A lot of us (exJWs) have no issue with atheism, evolution, chemistry, etc., and among that sample I'd say you get a variety of faith-levels, so to speak. Personally, I was always very academically-minded and intelligent though, and I think that's all it really boils down to. The majority of JWs are simply unable to grasp even mildly complex concepts, because they believe they have no reason to explore science for answers, on account of their already thinking they have the ultimate answer. The result is their logic/comprehension skills never get developed, aka "that's too confusing for me, so it must be untrue", "If it was true it wouldn't need such a complicated explanation", etc

[@lvaexploration]

Love you two, the way you don't take BS or time wasters

[@Furry-iousNews]

8:05 Isnt this the plot for lawnmower man???😂😂😂

[@EehAmanda]

I bet if we all did shots whenever a theist says "I don't know" we'd all still be sober with a closed bottle at the end.

[@joeanthony7759]

"It's too orderful", oh Dominic.....

[@AlexisL-q2u]

This gentleman spoke many a great sentence but I think that ‘’He put on a helmet connected to electricity on their head and sent weaves to that region of the brain ‘the temple’’ takes the cake.

[@mckorr2116]

The dimensions, the tablet, alchemy (as above so below)... the caller was "quoting" (extremely badly) Rosicrucianism. The Golden Dawn. Who's most famous member was Aleister Crowley.

[@jasonrace9226]

Jimmy Snow was on fire during this call. Beavers. Sniffing farts. I am dying laughing over here.

[@alanrosenthal6323]

Proof positive. Faith let's you believe absolutely anything no matter how stupid it is

[@alanrosenthal6323]

@@ChrisEnglishTimeJapan I don't understand your question!

[@alanrosenthal6323]

@@ChrisEnglishTimeJapan got it :)

[@CrAzYpotpie]

​@@ChrisEnglishTimeJapanI believe on faith that you are a child killer.

[@irenakovacic3281]

"I guess we just skipped the twelfth" 😂😂that made me chuckle

[@HotelierNYC]

"Because it is too ORDERFUL."

[@Vondoodle]

I’ve noticed a lot of callers calling up to talk about theism-lite and how it’s all fluffy and secular.. lots of smuggling going on

[@TheTruthKiwi]

They've finally figured out that the bible can't be used as evidence so have had to change tack quite dramatically

[@MrCliffipoo]

Moo

[@vic.smittie.5668]

People will literally "beieve" all kinds of weird shit! 🙄🤦😳

[@dubyagrip]

Dude tried drugs and wasn't ready for them

[@operating]

Good people doing and thinking bad things. Welcome to religion.

[@michaeldodds2722]

"Before the universe existed did your god exist?" "Yes." "Demonstrate this is true." "Blah blah blah psycho babble blah blah blah." "OK."

[@Mugairyuiai]

Fair play to the hosts for entertaining this caller. I used to think I was lost, may someone help him find a way other than the one he's on now.

[@richardwarner8648]

The Truth will never be found in religion. People will believe in and support any system that displaces a person's responsibility for their actions. Smh....

[@janerkenbrack3373]

A friend told me his grandfather had ghosts in his butt, and proved them by pulling his finger.

[@brucebaker810]

Methani. Bowel Spirit. Or jazz musician.

[@ward1117]

Matt and Jimmy go together like bread and butter lol

[@CaptainDooDoo-ans]

Did you notice that his god was not the pool of vomit on the nightclub bathroom floor?

[@ericlevin3794]

"It's too "orderful." And, we can just end the conversation there... 🤣

[@KrissieSeaton]

I recognised some of what Dominic was talking about. Basic theosophy. The Hermetica and The Emerald Tablet. New age spiritualism. Literally just nonsense that people choose to believe to make themselves feel special and important because they are in on the secret. I dont think he was expecting to get torn apart so thoroughly as he thought he had secret knowledge.

[@bettablue2660]

Religion uses people’s fear to control people in order to control their behavior. I had a history professor at my university who said something to me that has stuck with me since. She said, “You must have a religion in order to have a nation”. I believe this was a quote from the Roman leader prior to the Council of Nicia, where the created the Bible. She also said, “It is written, therefore it is so”. Getting into heaven is the idea that is the basis for a primal fear of death that we all have. It is a comfort to feel that life will never be over. As an atheist, I take people’s fear seriously and hope that their freedom from this fear will come to them. I do have issue with the anger Matt shows for people who aren’t there. I really do understand his frustration. If his goal is to lead people to the truth, blasting them and hanging up on them will not allow him to move them.

[@almcclain1061]

Joseph Campbell said that God is a metaphor for all the energy in the universe

[@elmolewis9123]

Dominic: "Based on my research...". I had to keep watching and he didn't disappoint. 🤦 Sounds like the Woodstock brown acid is on the rebound.

[@brucebaker810]

Some people took that as a challenge. Their kids...

[@Shermanbay]

I'm partial to the 13th dimension. It's really good luck!

[@Furry-iousNews]

4:34 "In my research...." "Why do you believe this? " "..... this other religious text said so....." No irony whatsoever...... bro

[@JustArten]

This is another of those calls where the audio is notably unbalanced.

[@stevenaustin8274]

So is the caller

[@thorts]

That hurt my head

[@davidantell2855]

I grew up in the borg as well. I left with some but not all of my family. Thankfully i no longer have the burden of religion any more.

[@tinyghost8836]

Some theists give off the same energy as the nerdiest LotR fan you've ever met. This dude wrote a whole ass fanfiction and he's dumping it on you like you're at a nerd convention.

[@eloisecole3579]

Aron Ra could help him i think.

[@ramptonarsecandle]

Only in America 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@DoctorX101]

Visit Saudi Arabia.

[@ramptonarsecandle]

@@DoctorX101 why? It’s just another illustration of the harm and hate of religion.

[@DoctorX101]

@@ramptonarsecandle Now you know your "only" proved inappropriate, if not prejudiced.

[@ramptonarsecandle]

@@DoctorX101 Americans represent the crass end of religion, Saudi, along with such places as Afghanistan represent the intolerant and violent end of religion. It, as I said it just shows what religion is and can do. You not understanding that is somewhat irrelevant. Religion is a belief system that uses indoctrination to control its members. The problem comes when its members think indoctrination is knowledge.

[@exceptionallyaverage3075]

American religious superstitionist organizations don't know how to gift as efficiently as European religious superstitionist organizations. But they're learning, in a ham-fisted way.

[@rocketrudolf3854]

Why does it seem the more religious someone is , there ability to answer a straight question turns to crap.

[@2019freddie]

'I've been playing chess for the last 5 minutes' hahaha, awesome Matt. Great show guys.

[@nuclearsimian3281]

"I can't prove the Jehovah's witness god is real, so everything that's alive is god." Wow, what a completely unprovable assertion that's unnecessary.

[@Baekstrom]

If this was a casual conversation I had with a random person I met, then I would end the exchange as soon as it got to the thirteenth dimension nonsense. However this is a call-in show that is all about engaging with that kind of arguments so the hosts kind of have to sit through it, and I admire their patience.

[@jowen001]

This dude is so confused and willing to believe anything.

[@amandajones661]

This caller started out strong. My first question was his too. How many times was the Bible translated?

[@Lupinemancer87]

If you ask me what my favorite color is, and I go into a long rant about how much a really love Pizza, did I answer your question? This is what theists do.

[@vertigo4236]

Well... Pizza does exist and is good! Two points that any god, first has to demonstrate So, your answer is already waaaay better!😁

[@banonKING]

I always aprpeciate a good Marvels reference that is also specifically a reference to late 90s hip-hop. Also a John Carpenter "Ghost of Mars" too?!

[@robertshepard2117]

That kid sounded like he just started reading some Carlos Castaneda cliff notes.

[@steveyuhas9278]

I feel like I would have a hell of a time coming up with something that this guy would not believe. If I told him that interdimensional ham sandwich eating Pokémon type creatures are on their way here right now but it's like reversed where the Pokémon catch the humans and have the humans fight each other instead of the other way around and the way I know this is that Pokémon as a franchise has actually been a prophecy and a warning this entire time and the clues are all over in the show and little secrets on the cards if you just look hard enough and many papers have been written about it but they've all been silenced cuz the government doesn't want the secret getting out because they want to try to control the Pokémon and use them to do their bidding.... ...I feel like his answer would be "I'll start making ham sandwiches to fend them off, lock the doors."

[@rodan5052]

Billy Carson wrote the Emerald Tablets

[@richardhedd3080]

I'm fascinated that asking the first question, and that's which god? That question always seems to befuddle a theist. As if all humans only know of one god. Even the bible acknowledges that people believe in other gods. This conversation is doomed from the start.

[@matthughes9525]

The king and his invisible clothes...

[@alanlowe9716]

He has a bucketful of random snippets that he thinks add up to a full image, when he hasn't investigated any of the snippets in depth to find out where they dry up... Willful ignorance at its best

[@MrcreepyZero]

thad callers "research" sounds really familiar to the spirit science brand of word salat. Without understanding the difference between claims and evidence or even attempting to provide a coherent justification for their beliefs. It's both frustrating and completely incomprehensible to me how someone could come to such bizarre convictiones.

[@henrypadilla7973]

@30:50 - Jimmy: "There's a bunch of people named 'Hank" I just freaked WAY out." YES! Yes, you did. Now stop looking in my window!

[@bulkvanderhuge9006]

"God is a fish", the caller has been reading William Faulkner

[@Aria-Invictus]

He is equivocating unintentionally monotheism or deism with pantheism

[@johnpanter9714]

Other countries have left their primitive belief in God behind when they developed critical thinking. America seems stuck in the medieval age of thinking, despite not having been there.

[@S.A.N.503]

Some of these videos are the best form of unintentional comedy I'm aware of, lol. The way Matt can just viscerally destroy some of these brain-dead arguments (if you can even call them that) is gut busting hilarious. Jimmy was particularly vicious this time as well, lol. Well done, boys!

[@murali-alive]

for the viewers of this show who use their brain it is a comedy show where theists come to make a fool of themselves.

[@claudiaarjangi4914]

We only have one data set to go off of.. The 1 universe.. So we can't say anything about the odds of stuff that we don't have anything to compare to .. There's no shame in being raised/ taught from people that had out-dated faulty data.. It takes an honest person to admit their beliefs are based on that faulty data.. And it takes a truly honest person to admit that their beliefs were wrong because of that.. 😁☮️🌏

[@ona512]

I enjoy this callers theism headspace for like a sci Fi horror or something.

[@ona512]

Cosmic horror.

[@ona512]

Like in his viewpoint the Sun and any stars are like cracks in the 3rd dimension directly to God's dimension and in some sort of video game we can use the prospect of diving directly into the sun for the final boss which is really scary on its own...going into the sun.

[@acgsmith5937]

The trees and the fish are orderfull.

[@andythekid2156]

“I’ve been playing chess for the past five minutes” Wow. :/

[@BlueMarbleApeMan]

So basically this guy was a Jehovah's Witness and then did LSD lol

[@consciouslyevolvingmen6832]

At least this caller is trying to expand his definition of "God", but it demonstrates how confusing/crazy it can get when one starts buying into too much "New Age/Quantum" mumbo-jumbo as well. At least he is questioning and exploring what God might actually mean for him.

[@AM-xr1hm]

A system that works with electrochemical reactions being influenced by electromagnetism is just about as spooky as this system being influenced by chemicals... Or about as mysterious as a mechanical system like a mottor being affected by throwing a wrench in it

[@KintokiSan]

As soon as he said "flower of life" and "sacred geometry" I was out. Should've just stuck to the bible... At least then he'd believe some BS that's a little less fringe.

[@philipinchina]

What was your research? Collapse of stout party.

[@soulcrewblue8629]

Dominic if you're reading this, that was painful baloney, get a grip....on reality that is.

[@kgal9657]

I haven't been focused into this since the thirteenth dimension. Mentally and physically. That's just me though, idk.

[@johnfox9169]

That caller speaks utter nonsense!!

[@DocZom]

Dominic sounds a lot like the guys I knew who did a lot of LSD in the 60s and 70s. Mysticism actually made inroads into the culture for a short time back then. Dominic seems to have developed his own brand of mysticism. I would guess access to all kinds of strange stuff on the internet plays a role... and maybe some 'shrooms?

[@krisbest6405]

I,ve heard this idea before.

[@randyzeitman1354]

If heaven and hell are in higher dimensions why is there only one?

[@alanevery215]

What is the mental mechanism that allows these religions to even exist?

[@istvansipos9940]

childhood indoctrination 99.99% the rest is some predatory indoctrination when somebody somehow hit rock bottom.