Catholic Struggles When Pressed for Good Reasons to Believe | Matt Dillahunty and Jimmy Snow

James calls in expressing concerns about mythicism, the view that Jesus was a purely mythical figure. The hosts clarify neither of them hold that position. They question James on his Catholic beliefs, asking him to provide specifics on how prayer is answered by God.
James gives an example of his brother getting out of a bad marriage and finding a better career after prayer, but admits he can't demonstrate God's involvement. Pressed on the differences between Catholicism and Protestantism, James struggles to articulate why one would be true over the other.
When asked what method he uses to determine which religious claims are true, he admits he has none. The hosts find his reasons for belief unconvincing and ask him to call back next week with solid reasons he's Catholic and why others should believe too. They encourage him to write these reasons down ahead of time.
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[@ZapperguyLOL]

Respect to James. He couldn't defend his positions, but he listened and acknowledged when Matt or Jimmy made a point. I look forward to his next call. ☮

[@Apostolnixx]

Yeah, that was a decent call.

[@goodquestion7915]

Me too. Amazing how Matt was happy too. MIRACLE!!!!

[@wrencestondwanson3437]

Atheism NEVER has a "point." Atheism continues to be totally debunked as there is no rational atheist explanation for reality and no atheist cause (e.g. nothing, star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, oceans, primordial soup) can produce anything we observe in the world today and no atheist idea (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) has ever been observed or even proved to be possible. No atheist can present a rational atheist explanation for reality. That’s because there isn’t one. As you can see, I easily debunk all atheist ideas & point out the fact that the asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism (we all have a faith) is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. That's because atheism is all lies where it's patrons desperately cling to the IMPOSSIBLE. Atheism = rebellious delusion. I continue to always win & that will be the case for yrs to come on any thread or channel that I choose to enter. I promise.

[@apophenic_]

Same.

[@macmartin86]

Good call, lots of respect for James.

[@MooseMaunu]

You want to anger an atheist lie to him. You want to anger a christian tell him the truth.

[@JohnFleshman]

Truer words have not been written.

[@TheTruthKiwi]

Hell yes, I'm stealing that dude and I don't care because apparently I have no morals 😜

[@bitterroots7317]

Who got angry? Did I miss that part?

[@MooseMaunu]

@@TheTruthKiwi Never forget what Mark Twain said..."good writers borrow. Great writers steal." 😉

[@TheTruthKiwi]

@@MooseMaunu Haha, I bet he stole that from someone. 😁

[@brianharris7243]

That was an honest and polite session.

[@squeegeexpert]

The outsider test of faith seems to be the only thing that dislodges Theists cognitive dissonance! Well played Jimmy and Matt!!

[@24magiccarrot]

When I was a christian the catalyst for me becoming Atheist was when I considered that if I was in a conversatiom with a jew a muslim a hindu and budhist at best only one of us could be right and the odds of me being right purely because i was raised Christian were slim. And all of the other religions had similar claims of guidance and miracle claims so I knew that couldnt be a result of individual religions being correct.

[@MacLaw3084]

yeah, I’ve learned over the years that it’s hard for many theists to view themselves from another person’s perspective; like a lack of empathy or something.

[@magnetiktrax]

@@24magiccarrot I had that "but what if religion X is right and you're wrong?" argument with a very xtian family member when I was just 8 years old. He answer was "because the dead sea scrolls confirm that the bible is true", as if that was some kind of answer. I realised right then that the some people are simply too illogical for any kind of rational discussion. 40 years later she's still trying to get family members to read the book of revelation and prepare for jesus' return. Pointing out that people have been saying "he's coming back soon" for thousands of years gets you nowhere, the best thing is to ignore them.

[@FourDeuce01]

You can lead a theist to logic, but you can’t make them think.😜

[@wrencestondwanson3437]

Wrong. Test of faith? Weak faith doesn't constitute the fact that Christianity ALONE has all the facts and the asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism has NONE. Atheism continues to be totally debunked as there is no rational atheist explanation for reality and no atheist cause (e.g. nothing, star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, oceans, primordial soup) can produce anything we observe in the world today and no atheist idea (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) has ever been observed or even proved to be possible. No atheist can present a rational atheist explanation for reality. That’s because there isn’t one. As you can see, I easily debunk all atheist ideas & point out the fact that the asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism (we all have a faith) is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. That's because atheism is all lies where it's patrons desperately cling to the IMPOSSIBLE. Atheism = rebellious delusion. I continue to always win & that will be the case for yrs to come on any thread or channel that I choose to enter. I promise.

[@DennisMK-vr6xc]

What a great guy this James is. So willingly open to an honest discussion that challenges his belief. I wish him the best!

[@goodmanmthiyane5611]

Me too

[@tonyclif1]

At least James is honest enough to say "I dont know" to some things! Now, he just needs to find evidence for the things he believes

[@DrGreenGiant]

Being confident enough to say, "I don't know" is so incredibly important. Moreover, showing willingness to find out is exemplary. Huge amount of credit and respect to James

[@Jake-hb8ek]

His willingness and comfort in saying “I don’t know” is why he will be a Catholic for life.

[@samtorstenbo7323]

"I'm the son of Sod" ".... Good for you."

[@jimbob3030]

...Now go take your medication.

[@jaotree]

This is the most underrated channel on KZbin. What you’re doing is so important, please keep it up.

[@DJMaul1031]

Why can't they just be honest? "Mommy and Daddy taught me to be religious and I never questioned it."

[@alanmiller7875]

I'm 10 mins in and this is one of the best/productive conversations I've seen on this show. It's so rare to see a person honestly answer the questions posed and take time to consider the issues being discussed... even if he ends up in exactly the same place he started, this is the kind of conversation that can help others deconstruct.

[@rakitakhan]

I was baptised Evengelical and raised as a Lutheran. I don't remember going to church much as my parents divorced when I was 4 in 1969. I went to church with some friends when I was 7 after we had moved to Az. Even then I questioned why. They were doing the cracker and wine stuff and I remember thinking how this represented someones body and blood and why in the hell were we eating it. I chose not to. Through the years I found myself wanting to believe but not finding a reason to. My big brother was killed in a chemical explosion in 1979 while in the USCG. He was a great guy. He had recently married and had a 18 month old little girl. WTF did he do to deserve this ? Where was this god that was supposed to be so f'ing good ? He apparently saves assholes and lets good people die. That's when I totally gave up on religion. I'm 58 now and I'm still and forever an atheist. Watching Matt and the others has greatly opened my eyes as to why god isn't worthy of any praise or worship. Thank you guys for putting into words what my mind has been telling me for yrs. If religious people would actually open their minds and listen...wait...that'll never happen.

[@lvbdevinelove2329]

I'm so sorry about your brother. I am on the exact same page as you with the rest of your story.

[@Nymaz]

For God so loved the world that he caused a tiny subset of it to be born into the exact right geographical location and the exact right parents to pass on the exact right version of religion out of the thousands of others, while screwing the vast majority of the remainder. John 17:20-23

[@craedonbwroten6693]

Not even close. Intellect overrides the teachings of youth; thus, it doesn’t matter where you were born. There are millions of Christians in the Chinese underground. There are thousands of daily conversions to Christianity in Muslim nations and there are actually atheists in the Christian nation of the U.S. Go figure.

[@MarkoVukovic0]

"I put money in the basket". Reminds me of the late, great George Carlin "And He needs money! He always needs money! He’s all-powerful, all- perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can’t handle money!"

[@christopherwilliams5808]

Such a legend man. Love him. RIP

[@raccuia1]

Yeah, George Carlin showed the hypocrisy and stupidity of religion. It's about time we start holding religious nutters accountable. Enough with freedom of religion. It's time to call it out for the pile of rotting, stinking, steamy pile of crap it really is and the people who believe it absent of proof are sickos.

[@Dan_C604]

The trigger to my development to atheism was actually the realization of other religions’ claims by believers who believed and experienced the same way I did. Right on Matt and Jimmy!

[@anthonywatson1508]

It is so refreshing to hear that a religious person listens to reason and does not get angry and butt hurt when they find flaws in his "logic". Again so refreshing.

[@LuminesBreezer--]

When Matt mentioned Mother Teresa, he took me back to my elementary days and how heavy this woman was worshipped after her death throughout even my city. And to instill so many influences that this woman was indeed an _influential_ person is pretty insane.

[@Gerryjournal]

Vile creature that she was

[@andrewvalenski921]

This video is therapy.

[@jaxnaturals]

Great questions by both Jimmy and Matt. You could feel his world view foundation crumbling

[@wrencestondwanson3437]

Foundation crumbling? No, that's atheism. Because the asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism continues to be totally debunked as there is no rational atheist explanation for reality and no atheist cause (e.g. nothing, star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, oceans, primordial soup) can produce anything we observe in the world today and no atheist idea (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) has ever been observed or even proved to be possible. No atheist can present a rational atheist explanation for reality. That’s because there isn’t one. As you can see, I easily debunk all atheist ideas & point out the fact that the asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism (we all have a faith) is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. That's because atheism is all lies where it's patrons desperately cling to the IMPOSSIBLE. Atheism = rebellious delusion.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

If the Catholic god had ever decided to visit me and perform some miracles I would still be a Catholic. As an atheist I no longer suffer the interference from someone who isn't there.

[@Zikiru]

Finally, a good caller.

[@wilmerwalton5089]

This is a good example demonstration of confusion on the part of theists. It appears confusion goes hand-in-hand with cognitive dissonance. Confusion as a defense mechanism is deliberate.

[@keithulhu]

If you need God to be a better husband and father, you're definitely not a good husband and father.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

Yea… you need a big sky daddy and a 2000 year old book of fairy tales to be a good person.

[@Mouth-of-Spaghetti]

8:30 Wow! Matt just slays the whole concept of praying for someone else during this conversation. praying for his brother would be god changing his plan and taking away free will.

[@DaemonVok]

Id love to see the part 2 to this

[@MrJaster45]

Love these debates. Matt is a champion.

[@_Stargazer_.]

James ... Respect buddy !

[@tristen_grant]

Hes trying.

[@brock4372]

I love how people are calling in saying they're long time fans then start with "well the evidence we have for Jesus"

[@Crow-rz6cp]

So glad you're back to doing talk shows, Matt. Cheers to you, sir.

[@wrencestondwanson3437]

These 2 hosts are fools (atheists) and their less-than-worthless, asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. No atheist has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!! The fact remains that along w/ DYING/FINITE space/matter/energy, TIME had a cause. The logical conclusion (when we follow the evidence) is that such a cause is TIMELESS. And if you're TIMELESS, do you have a beginning or end? No. We call that cause "OUR INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL GOD," who by definition is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL. These topics are the most important topics known; thus, EVERYONE should have a vast understanding of the facts that frame the truth of these topics and not be so content to gulp down the false propaganda of channels such as this one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!

[@philosophyfrog2653]

This was a great call, civil and productive and also somewhat entertaining.

[@SFforlife]

That ended so wholesomely lol. I think James really started to realize some issues with his church and hopefully he starts to question and think rationally about it because with some more talking and learning I think he’d start to wake up about all this.

[@BlessYourHeart254]

Jesus: likely fan fiction gone awry whether he existed or not 😂

[@brucebaker810]

The oily foot massage scene. The typical "how can I ever repay you" bits after the miracles. And when he saved that adultress in Daniel. (Or Daniel in the adultress?)

[@Julian0101]

Or as i say to certain trolls who like to appeal to bart ehrman "A poor sap whose name got hijacked by a death cult"

[@zarxog]

Nice call! Matt is always better when he, at some point, backs of and differentiate between the person and the topic.

[@apophenic_]

This rekindled my enjoyment of the show.

[@jimbob3030]

The mythicist position is the one supported by all evidence and our vast history of myth making and making up thousands of religions.

[@donnyh3497]

There have been so many charismatic prophets though history that I can't help but think that the jews believed that their religion was true for so many centuries that some of them were extremely desperate for their prophecies to be fulfilled and they subsequently pinned their hopes and dreams on some apocalyptic prophet that had gained massive popularity before getting himself crucified. People just hate being wrong so much and they want to fit in so bad. And basically people are idiots 😄

[@jimbob3030]

@@donnyh3497 A person could think that, until they learn all the evidence needed to determine if that is true or not. When you compare the life of jesus in the bible with the military campaign of titus as described in Antiquities' of the Jews using a method of comparison called typology, you will learn the life of jesus as told in the bible is just a respun version of the military campaign of titus as described in Antiquities of the Jews. They're not talking about an actual man that lived here, they're making up this man jews expected but turning him into a savior for gentiles to appeal to a wider audience. The concept of the savior figure was turned on it's head from a savior that freed the slaves like moses did into a savior that says render unto ceasar what is ceasars and slaves obey your masters. The way he became a savior that doesnt' free the slaves but serves the interests of rome really gives it all away. That and the fact it's just typical throughout history for religious deities to be entirely fictional. The yahweh is the same way as well as the thousands of other gods man has made up, it's par for the course to make religious dieties up entirely from peoples imagination.

[@roqsteady5290]

How much would a Jesus candidate have to do to qualify as the real Jesus, rather than a mythical one?

[@jimbob3030]

@@roqsteady5290 Have you read all the canonical and *non canonical writings* about jesus from the time? It's clear if you just read them all they are not talking about any one real person that existed in real life. They're all contradictory and vastly different views about what a coming savior would be like from people who obviously knew nothing about him and didn't agree at all on what to expect.

[@Desanna]

Indeed. And I find it interesting that no one has a problem with the idea that, for example, Herakles wasn’t based on a real person. Could there have been some real person that the Hercules myths came from? Just like with Jesus, it’s possible. There are some ideas. But even if he was based on a real person, all that remains of that real person in the myths and legends that were created of him is personhood. There’s nothing meaningfully real about the character. Same with any other gods. And yet in countries steeped in christianity, even people who become atheists have a really hard time letting go of the idea that there must have been an actual person at the core of the Jesus story. Because there are infinite ways to be wrong and only one way to be right, the best way to maximize your odds of believing as many true things and as few false things as possible is to say that nothing is true until you have a good reason to think otherwise. I don’t have a good reason to think Jesus was meaningfully based on a real person, so until I have one, I must conclude that he was not.

[@mikedunningham9614]

James is at least an honest man

[@garymiles484]

Great video guys. Maybe the call screeners could give James a direct path if he calls next Sunday.

[@curiojeff]

First thing I would ask every religious caller: Were you taught this as a child?

[@goodquestion7915]

@Matt awesome line of questioning 👍

[@Imperial-Socialist]

Not a mythicist, but am of the opinion that the Jesus character is the amalgamation of several itinerant rabbis.

[@padraigther0b0t]

I really hope James calls back next week. Great call!

[@TheDahaka1]

Hearing a religious person criticize other religions is so weird. Like two pigeons playing chess against each other XD

[@lreactor]

Well done James.

[@thomaserickson568]

These poor guys who call in, I feel for them. They really struggle and they're trying, but these hosts just seem to beat up on them. I hope they get some good bonuses for contributing to this show.

[@visforvegan8]

Wow, an honest interlocutor. Rare but nice for a change.

[@AngryBoozer]

10:30 -sounds of gears grinding to a halt.

[@JohnnysCafe_]

"give me a prayer you think was answered?" "well my brother was in a bad marriage and ......😂😂😂

[@FourDeuce01]

James:”I can’t draw a straight line to god.” He can’t draw any line to god.😈

[@d.f.4511]

He was a good sport.

[@jamesstoute7297]

Very sad.

[@lenbones7940]

the experiment all theists are scared of is the whole "instead of prayer make a wish and cut a fart" when some finds out prayer can be substituted with that it forever mind Fs them and people refuse to bring cake to u on ur birthday... sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire..

[@Cawd217]

What?

[@RikRiorik]

George Steinbrenner phones in.

[@Mauricekaip]

Where did Matt get Catholic hospitals host two funerals?

[@ShadowveilFox]

when this guy said he has noticed effects from his prayers, my brain jokingly went to "I prayed to have a good day at work because my job is bad and it's a busy and stressful time of the month", and he literally mentions praying for someone that had a bad job and then they probably went out ON THEIR OWN and looked for a new job because I'm quite sure it didn't just come to him out of nowhere. that's evidence of prayer being answered? wtf. pray to see a congo line of squirrels perform ballet in the street and tell me if that happens because then I'll believe prayer is real for sure.

[@andrewtaylor681]

Rougarou sounds like something Scooby Doo would say.

[@Josh-mh3kl]

Will you be posting the clip of Father Tom? i'd like to post it on my social media in hopes that my Catholic friends and family will view it. cheers

[@therealivydawg]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@qnaline]

Yes, it’ll be up this week on Jimmy Snow’s personal channel and in a couple months on this channel

[@lizzieh5284]

Matt is exactly right about the Catholic church being a criminal organisation.

[@joekerby6330]

Good Catholic's are in a Shamanic-Trance, I was there as a kid.

[@TheToscanaMan]

Interesting. A Catholic asking God to help his brother out of a bad marriage. What?

[@diogeneslamp8004]

You caught that too.

[@kissit012]

It’s ok for men to do things in the abrahamic faiths that blatantly contradict their own rules. It’s their specialty

[@berniebooth5045]

Matt should be made President.

[@salohcin1013]

Damn apparently I need to read up on mother Theresa

[@TheCountBlackula1978]

The truth will set you free only if you want to be

[@Username34823]

"You could keep your God believe and ditch the catholic church " LMFAO

[@mxamumt]

Did he ever call back? I did a quick search for James in the videos and did not find a show.

[@BlackICMenace]

His method is blind faith. The Keyword is blind.

[@captflint0718]

I like the fact that he admitted he had no evidence. Most theists either change the topic or get angry and throw a tantrum

[@tranquilthoughts7233]

I tend to phrase it like this: The mythical jesus, meaning the jesus as described in the bible, did not exist. However there very likely was one (or several) jewish apocalyptic preachers (possibly even called jesus as this was a very common name at the time) on whom the stories about jesus are based.

[@TheTruthKiwi]

I'm pretty sure the writers of the bible sincerely believed what they were writing. Whether intentionally or not, they were very clever to frame it so it didn't need to be proven or demonstrated to hold belief. They even said it was virtuous to not question the belief and rely completely on faith alone. How is this a good foundation for a world view?!

[@mlthornton1]

Can you put into words why it is "bad"?

[@TheTruthKiwi]

@@mlthornton1 It's bad because It opens the door for any claims to be made without question which is exactly how cults are formed. Christianity is basically a giant cult and a death cult at that because it promises everything after one dies.

[@asagoldsmith3328]

​@@mlthornton1why is believing things for no good reason whatsoever bad? If that has to explained to you you need to seriously reevaluate your life.

[@Ben-no4lz]

@@mlthornton1Because it has no evidence to support it. Basing your worldview on some unverified claims in an old fairytale is not a good way to ensure your worldview actually fits reality.

[@magnetiktrax]

"I'm pretty sure the writers of the bible sincerely believed what they were writing." Why? There's plenty of evidence to suggest that the jesus story was made up from other stories, like Homer's Odyssey.

[@nuoiptertermer4484]

Jimmy got the mythicist position wrong. The mythicist position isn't that Jesus didn't exist. It's that he probably didn't exist. There's no position that he didn't exist because he can't be ruled out, of course.

[@markdoughty8780]

A Catholic with an open mind - now there's a thing...

[@dalegregg8455]

"If a single, interactive deity existed and actively communicated with humanity, it would be reasonable to expect a uniformity in the religious messages received across different cultures and geographies. This uniformity would manifest as a consistent set of beliefs, practices, and doctrines universally acknowledged and adhered to by all. However, the observable reality is markedly different. Our world is characterized by a multitude of religions, each with its distinct set of teachings, doctrines, and interpretations of the divine. This diversity in religious beliefs and practices suggests that if a deity were interacting with humanity, the messages received are either not uniformly understood or are inherently varied. Given this lack of a consistent divine message, it is logical to question the existence of an interactive deity who imparts a singular, clear, and unambiguous message to all of humanity. The presence of multiple, often contradictory religious teachings across various cultures and societies thus challenges the notion of a single, communicative god and suggests the possibility that such a deity may not exist." This statement provides a more logical and clear argument, emphasizing the lack of uniformity in religious messages as evidence against the existence of a single, interactive deity.

[@kevinkoch-jj1uj]

"War is Peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength." George Orwell would like to have a word with you.

[@24magiccarrot]

James issue is he doesn't want to accept the fact that he's been lied to his entire life.

[@mlthornton1]

Thanks to the all-knowing KZbin dillahunty binge watchers to set us straight

[@sincereflowers3218]

​@@mlthornton1 Look man the internal contradictions of your worldview can be pointed out by a 16 year old in 20 minutes 😂 people like M.D aren't needed.

[@DoctorX101]

@@sincereflowers3218 You made him cry! Now do NOT tell him there is no Santa Claus! DAMN!

[@sincereflowers3218]

@@DoctorX101 There is an argument to be made that Santa Clause is a far nicer God to worship.

[@ottonormalverbrauch3794]

​@@mlthornton1Do you feel comforted by the thought that people are probably MD binge watchers to have come to a position of not being religious. I was non religious for over 50 years before I even became aware of MD's existence.

[@bigbennybuckets3788]

Super appreciate James's honesty. As a note for debating with Catholics: they do not believe the host is transformed into flesh that would contain the DNA of Jesus. It's not believed to be *actual* blood and flesh in the way most people think. It's a philosophical (Platonic) concept of "true body and blood."

[@mlthornton1]

Is this super appreciation more or less than ultra appreciation?

[@chriscrilly8807]

You clearly haven't read your catholic doctrine. You try to make a reasonable defence for Catholics. Catholics aren't reasonable. They actually do believe in what they call "transubstantiation." Look it up. Never underestimate the gullibility and devotion to hokus pokus of the Roman Catholic. You can't make this shit up. Wait...the catholics DID make it up. I know. I was one.

[@adeofbass]

Has a relationship with a character in an ancient book. It's fucking madness.

[@xjarheadjohnson]

Old Mark Twain quotes describes this conversation perfectly.... _"Faith is believing what you know ain't' so..."_ *- Mark Twain* _"The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also."_ *- Mark Twain* _“Religion consists in a set of things which the average man thinks he believes and wishes he was certain...”_ *- Mark Twain*

[@cederickforsberg5840]

Did he call back with the two sided paper good reasons?

[@johnsperry9494]

When you pray, you are basically telling God that your plan is better than his. That’s very arrogant.

[@lizzieh5284]

Appolinus'story was the same as Jesus' - born of a virgin, performed miracles, rose from the dead. Why not follow him?

[@JFrazer4303]

At least 99% mythicism is reasonable: If there was a real person, he resembles the stories about him to an even lesser degree than does a historic Robin Hood or King Arthur resemble the myths about them.

[@bodricthered]

Yup, especially since the 'Jesus' of each gospel is totally different from each other, from the Jesus of the letters, from the Jesus of the noncanonical gospels that were only rejected because of a committee decision and from the Jesus that each of the different s CTS, denominations and believers believe in.... They're ALL different and they can't all be true.

[@Yakkityyak248]

Why do they call in?

[@iainrendle7989]

If he was told by his church from an early age that something that covered in fur, has legs and warm blooded, has babies and was termed as a 'stone'. He will never believe that is an animal and not a stone, will never seek out the truth or facts that contradict what he was told.

[@xjarheadjohnson]

Old Mark Twain quotes describes this conversation perfectly.... _"Faith is believing what you know ain't' so..."_ *- Mark Twain* _"The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also."_ *- Mark Twain* _“Religion consists in a set of things which the average man thinks he believes and wishes he was certain...”_ *- Mark Twain*

[@ivanl.6797]

It's odd that sometimes the caller's voice changes drastically. For example, like around 10:34, for less than a second. I thought I heard it before during the video. Anyone noticed? Probably nah. 3:16 , 4:40 , 13:02

[@kissit012]

Peoples voices change with excitement or emphasis to a point. It’s normal if you talk to people regularly

[@Graeme_Lastname]

My magic sky pixie is better than your sky pixie? 🤣

[@Nymaz]

I'd like to get some feedback on my position regarding historical/mythicist: So first off I don't have a strong objection to the idea of there being a person in that general time period and area named Yeshua of Nazareth who was an apocalyptic street preacher that gained a following, was killed by the Romans via crucifixion, and later had stories built up around him. BUT I don't consider myself to hold the "historical Jesus" position. Why? Because the name "Jesus" carries so much baggage to it as to be obviously mythological. The way I see it is this way - say I could find evidence of the existence of a teenager living in the 70's New York named Peter Parker who was a photographer for a newspaper. Would you then consider yourself a "historical Spider-Man-ist"? Or would you say that the idea of Spider-Man the webslinging wallcrawling superhero is so much more than simply a person named Peter Parker living in New York that it reduces that fact to mere coincidence.

[@magnetiktrax]

I recommend Ken Humphries "jesusneverexistd" (spelling is correct) YT channel where he goes into important topics such as how Nazareth wasn't even a town in the time jesus supposedly was born.

[@robertwoods1380]

👍👍 👏👏

[@lizzieh5284]

The problem with 'religious' people is they never study their own religion!

[@wrencestondwanson3437]

STOP the stupidity. Atheism is a religion w/ tenets (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, star formation, evolution) of which I debunk w/ ease. Any belief re the cause of this universe is a religion and you've tagged yourself an "atheist" because you believe atheist ideas re the cause of this universe (nature: time/space/matter/energy. You also believe that evolution is the "controlling power" over life, instead of God. THAT is religion. Either you have a RATIONAL POSSIBLE world view or you don't. To be an atheist and have no factual basis for your cult, is to be content to be even more lost and clueless than yesterday. Why do you cling so desperately to an asinine atheist cult that's INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS? Could you be more lost and clueless?

[@asherloat8570]

@@wrencestondwanson3437 You could not be more wrong. And you say we're the clueless ones xD

[@wrencestondwanson3437]

@@asherloat8570 Yeah, you're clueless; else, you'd present a rational godless explanation for reality. But you don't have one. Not even the beginning of one. So yes, you're lost & clueless. I'm watching you squirm.

[@lizzieh5284]

Exactly right. Many catholics when condeming homosexuality are not aware that masturbation is just as bad. You dont hear them condeming that!

[@steveyuhas9278]

I know it's slightly petty, but I do enjoy watching people come to the realization that they believe in something ridiculous and have no good reason. It's because I remember and know what that's like. You can hear it at 10:25. Of course the defense mechanisms immediately go up and the alarms start sounding to protect the irrational belief. But that's because religion is good at what it does and the defense mechanisms are built in by design. It's up to the person to turn off the alarms and seriously evaluate the belief and I get that is very hard to do. But this is such a great example of how theists lie to themselves and a great illustration of how insanely powerful indoctrination is. He knows somewhere deep down it's irrational. But indoctrination does it's damndest to make sure that realization that you have no justification and shouldn't believe stays deep down and dies a quiet death.

[@haraldschuster3067]

Is it just me or do a lot of the callers have a southern accent?

[@larryfairbanks1734]

Wewl, I was waised Cathowick, and beweave it to be truw . 🤷‍♂️

[@SecondaryHomunculus]

"I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I *HURK*"

[@adeofbass]

Cannibal death cult

[@mattysheppy1193]

I love Jimmys accolades at the end of these videos 😂 “I’m Jimmy Snow, Pokemon Master” Did this guy actually call back?

[@Spiderantula]

Did he call back? 🤔

[@DHcycling]

Matt should just do all the talking. Jimmy talks a lot but doesn't really say much. just saying. other than that, i enjoy the channel 😀

[@grantwing4942]

I have faith in the mythicist position. There you go. It must be true as that is the best evidence for theists.

[@Lowraith]

James' CPU was throwing sparks like crazy. Cognitive dissonance hitting hard.

[@Imperial-Socialist]

I am Agnostic and Ignostic. I like listening to batshit crazy theists, but for the most part these discussions are pointless.

[@MisterRorschach90]

I watch a stream that covers current events from a left wing perspective. In 2023 there were so many catholic and Protestant priests being caught and or arrested that he started covering the cases. The numbers were averaging at least one priest per day. And the trend has continued in 2024. I’m talking about the one specific crime they are known to commit that will get my comment deleted for typing out.

[@haydenwalton2766]

has anyone got james' phone # ?! I've got a mate that's missing a limb and I'd sure like james to put in a word with the big fella. it'd be a great birthday present !

[@petyrkowalski9887]

The Pope has the big God Batphone apparently… try him… address is The Vatican, St Marks Square. 😂

[@Marchant2]

So when good things happen to those of us who don't believe, is that also god intervening?

[@diogeneslamp8004]

It’s the Random God of Happenstance.

[@freddyherasme]

He believes in Catholicism becausr he was raised in it like I was. But He hasn't stopped believing why can't thsy just ssy it

[@gaggs233]

Sounds like darkmatter2525😅

[@OldSchoolSk8ermatt]

Seems like this guy might just have the mental horsepower to work through this and realize he doesn’t have any justification. Rare is the theist who can have an open mind, which is why I don’t think he will remain a theist