Why the Type R isn't for You

[@rjhick1]

Dealership greed is the reason why its not for us

[@TheJDMFanatic]

A sad reality. They should do what Tesla does and just take as many orders as possible and sell them to people

[@kjwong4730]

@@TheJDMFanatic couldn’t agree more

[@92miata]

Luckily in australia when I’m in, there is fixed pricing. $72600aud

[@albertshi7976]

​@@92miataI'm jealous. 😢

Yes minimum 5K over MSRP.

[@murrynathan]

Best interior camera angles ever! I got a true sense of the cabin. Great review.

[@TheJDMFanatic]

Good to know! I'll keep doing it this way. Thanks for the feedback

[@sokratzmmf]

Great honest review. Dealership markups on the CTR makes the competition a serious consideration.

[@drizzt8965]

What is the competition?

[@tracytoh282]

Put a smile on my face every time I rode in the new Type R

[@justwingingit1]

I owned 2 FK8s and regarding having a loud exhaust I preferred using the stock setup even with FBO because it was like being in stealth mode. I’m sure that you’ve all heard the proverbial Mustang from miles away…and all of the potential unwanted law enforcement attention…that it brings. Sometimes driving an overly loud car(especially if it’s your daily) is only fun for about ten minutes…then that noise is just constant…no thanks.

[@jasonc934]

Not only manufacturer greed we deal with but also the dealership greed. That is like getting a slap in the face with pie in the face afterwards.

[@BoostedM20]

Love my R, such a great car.

[@antman1097]

Never drove much manual, but thinking of a type r for my first manual car

[@GaryL3803]

Only 3 track days and I'm in love!

[@maurocantu1908]

Type r or f87 m2??

[@TheJDMFanatic]

F87 for sure. Not even close for me

[@duck8280]

Type R if you care about money/reliability

[@Tom-fn8xc]

Great review, would love your review of the Mk8 R!

[@kchen101]

I wish more people would track their FK8 - backroads are fun and straightline pulls are fun too but it shines best when pushed 9/10 plus

[@SuperKidontheblock]

Wait, is the type r faster or the integra. You said two contradicting things within the span of a minute :/

[@TheJDMFanatic]

Type r will be faster on the track but outside of that they are the same

[@LimitedEdition0619]

Ben how many channel names are you going to have? It is hard to keep up. Now we are JDM fan lol

[@TheJDMFanatic]

hahaha only 3 right now. I need to change this one before I promote it on my main channel

[@kaamilalli1833]

Nice, honest review

[@Jesse.George]

That’s why you throw a Greddy exhaust on it 😜

[@whiskeyactual.]

I really found a liking to this car via Gran Turismo 7. I was bit disappointed after finding out how much they're asking for it in reality. The JDM maker have basically priced themselves out of the market. Asking $50k for a Honda would be comical if it weren't so sad. That's Stang GT, S5, S4, M240, Supra, Golf R, Camaro SS, etc. etc. money, and all are far out of the FL5s league performance wise. Sheesh, a base 2019 C7 Vette started only around $56k.

[@neumei626]

Golf R far out of the FL5's league? I just got my FL5 for MSRP. 46k. Can't beat that in this market elsewhere for what you're getting IMO.

[@whiskeyactual.]

@@neumei626 The Golf R is like a 12.5 second car off the showroom floor. It's AWD with a DSG so of course it's out of the FL5s league same as the STi, M240xi, AMG 35, TTS, GR Carolla, etc. I love the FL5, but literally cars all over, euro, US, and JDM that are better offerings.

[@ShaiyanHossain]

if i really cared about going fast in straight lines only for that much money i would find the cheapest corvette rn and slap a turbo on it. but there's more to life than flooring it on the straights @@whiskeyactual.

[@whiskeyactual.]

@@ShaiyanHossain Not sure what you're on about, but every car I mentioned is competent in corners and would out right out perform any FWD vehicle on the road course.

[@ShaiyanHossain]

proof? also i still dont really care about numbers. if going fast on a road course was my goal i would have had a corvette. but its not @@whiskeyactual.

[@shralperx]

Why the clickbait title? No downsides were even mentioned.

[@blueberrycobbler]

Because it’s the nature of the beast. It draws people in to watch the video.

[@Urbinz]

He literally said the exhaust is ehhh and sounds like a vacuum and that the type s is faster

[@shralperx]

@@Urbinz So for that, the Type R isn't for you? 😭

[@ellisgarvin]

@@blueberrycobbler You're apologizing for KZbinrs lying to viewers? Why would you do that? Misleading marketing sucks, no matter who does it.

[@Nastafar]

I’m debating whether to get one of these or another great condition E39 M5 like I had. I had an FK8 Type R and it was fast and fun to drive albeit too cartoony. Really miss that V8 rumble and power, so I’m leaning towards finding a well-kept M5. It was my absolute favorite car and V8s are a different beast.

[@mikemccormick6128]

The Title doesn't match the video. I don't remember you mentioning why it isn't for me. What did I miss?

[@christmasisawesome9348]

Would you click this video had the title been something else?

[@mikemccormick6128]

@@christmasisawesome9348 Yes. I have watched a lot of Type-R/Type S videos.

[@ellisgarvin]

@@christmasisawesome9348 So you think it's cool to trick viewers into watching with a fake title? Do you think that builds viewer loyalty? Not with me it doesn't. I block channels from my feed for doing deceptive shit like that. Too many KZbinrs lying to their audiences and here you are making excuses for it. Stay classy San Diego.

[@yamsui4520]

The Red carpet long term will not age well compared to the black carpet. I know they are holding the og look but still, they should've made 2 option

[@hamzaabdullah5583]

Just get some rubber mats and you’re chillin

[@SparklingWalrus]

Lmfao just get some Matts

[@ROVA00]

Red carpet isn’t a new thing bro. But I do agree it would be nice to have the option.

[@kjwong4730]

Everyone is paying the same if not more for this than the type S. It does look better than the previous gen

[@mikemccormick6128]

I went to Honda first, but they wanted a $15,000 mark-up. The Acura dealer didn't ask for a mark-up. However, even though I ordered one, I still don't have it after 5 months. So I feel less than thrilled with Acura.

[@jameslambert-v3j]

Love my Type R in CW. Pull the fuse on the active valve for the exhaust and the stock exhaust sounds notably better!

[@TheJDMFanatic]

Good to know there is an easy fix

[@cjsnylons]

Is there one for the piped in cabin noise?

[@ShaiyanHossain]

you can unplug the sound module but you need to take apart the dashboard for it the easier bandaid fix is to set up individual mode where the engine sound is set to comfort which turns it off nearly completely @@cjsnylons

[@carlosmelendez8317]

Pricing most ppl out of the brand is why I don't have one. They are so expensive!

[@TheJDMFanatic]

Very true! The second hand market is also very strong though

[@jessicaphoenix1312]

My Elantra N sounds amazing - nothing like a vacuum cleaner! I used to love those Type -R cars, but N cars are a better alternative now and with no markups at this point. That may change once people find out how cool they are.

[@Gjeebs]

I agree the N's are incredible value and they did all the things right that enthusiasts love with drive modes, sport seats and exhaust.

[@Itsdjsigi]

As a former fk8 owner, you’re right

[@BlueCivid]

Type r with an exhaust is already miles better then an n . Ns are nice though just not better then the r.

[@littlefoot4417]

Incredible value, garbage value retention

[@ellisgarvin]

I've been in the N and they have nothing on the R. Sorry, but you brought it up.

[@mattpipke5716]

My only comment is, the Civic Type R costs MORE than the Integra Type S. You can NOT find a CTR anywhere for MSRP. You will pay a bare minimum of 49k$ for the CTR, and more likely 54$k. The Integra Type S can be had for $52k almost anywhere you look. I would go for the Type Severy single time.

[@christopherdenison5762]

Type s doesn’t have a limited production run of units like the type r. Type r only has a production run of 18k units over the model run. Yes you can get one for sticker, just gotta find a dealer in the middle of nowhere. I did, and got free tint.

[@ShaiyanHossain]

those only started popping up in the last few weeks because of the MY 2024 units being shipped over, as well as the MSRP increase to $45k (!)@@christopherdenison5762

[@ShaiyanHossain]

the type r still has the better seats though. I wish they were an option for the Type S as everything else the integra does is better realistically

[@ellisgarvin]

Type R is SO MUCH COOLER than the Type S, both in looks, reputation, basically everything. Why do you think the demand from enthusiasts is so much greater for the R?

[@MattMatt77]

4:44 "everyone is going to be looking at you".... Yes please go on about that topic 🤔

[@ellisgarvin]

Yes, that's what happens when you drive the FL5. Everywhere I go, I get women wanting to be with me and men wanting to be me. I get compliments from old ladies and once got the middle finger from a jealous little kid. It's awesome and a little intense sometimes.

[@LateNightDateNight]

The problem with these cars (Type R & S) is they aren’t worth their asking price. For $50k+ there’s far too many cheap components and luxury shortcuts, I liked the $38k I paid for my FK8. Still can’t figure out why I’d pay 10k+ more for a slower vehicle.

[@mikemccormick6128]

What you are saying is not true. They both take about 5 seconds to 60mph. The official number for FL5 is a couple of seconds faster than the FK8. I guess you wouldn't want to pay $10,000 more. But many other people would prefer the FL5. The FK8, for example, is prone to overheating. They addressed that issue, at least to some degree, with the FL5. Also the FL5 has a much better sound system, and most people believe it looks better than the FK8. For most people, the FL5 is a better car.

[@christopherdenison5762]

If you can get one for sticker price, then yes they are worth it. Also, the fl5 also only has a production run of only 18,000 units, far less than the 150,000 units for the fk8. Will definitely hold its value. The fl5 had an increase in sticker price of 5k due to the fact its made in Japan. Gotta pay that tariff to the United States.

[@Itsdjsigi]

@@mikemccormick6128the fl5 is a worse type r lol, smaller turbo, same overheating, slower on a roll due to final drive change

[@mikemccormick6128]

@LateNightDateNight Wow, I just paid $38,042.74 including all taxes and fees minus my trade-in of 2015 Civic Si for the Type S. So far I'm so super happy with it and is by far the nicest car I've ever owned. Probably the biggest disappointment is the ELS Studio 3D. Very overhyped. It sounds okay for OE but I was nowhere even close to blown away by it.

[@LateNightDateNight]

@@mikemccormick6128 Wow, that’s the first negative thing I’ve heard about it. Appreciate the honesty! Everyone seems to say it’s magnificent. I had a Lexus IS500 which had the Mark Levinson everyone yammers on about and wasn’t that impressed by it either

[@pbgbr]

They are expensive because of all the infotainment people expect these days. Why can’t car manufacturers give us a stripped out cheaper version of their cars? Just ABS, 1 Airbag & Power Steering

[@husseinbandar3665]

Please do the GR86 next

[@Promisedland_garage]

The Gr can not beat the type r,cant even beat hyundais

[@ShaiyanHossain]

the hyundais fare better at the track

[@commentmancommentman1658]

Gr is nothing special. Its all hype.

[@rich9774]

But it cheated at the ring was not a factory car

[@ShaiyanHossain]

everyone does this lmao

[@bobsaget3044]

Times have changed, the car prices have changed the economy is in the SHlTTER and my pay rate is still the same this is the future. But a $50k civic lmmfao, please GTFO.

[@samuel_4862]

Apple CarPlay and other creature comforts do NOT justify $50k for a CIVIC. Speak for yourself it’s supposed to be an econo sports car and it isn’t even close to that it’s a sports car with a luxery price tag. Drivers don’t care about comfort as they do performance

[@jimmyvu6919]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@samuel_4862]

@@jimmyvu6919 laugh all you want but you can go ahead and pay $50k+ for a CIVIC when you could spend a little more and get a way better car for example the M3, S4, CT4 for that price tag. If you’re buying a Type R you aren’t buying it because it has CarPlay and other little crap, likely the buyer would be using it for motorsports as it’s what it was designed for. A $50k budget could build a pretty sweet sports car on an older chassis and also be WAY more capable of a car as most the stuff on it would likely be new or quality and it being more dialed than a factory car designed for the masses. $50k for a FWD civic to me is insane, $50k for a built to the hilt evo, STI, golf R all IMO way better deals seeing as either car would destroy a CTR on track or street. Also look at the civic historically and tell me they weren’t advertised, built and sold as economy cars even the higher trim sports models weren’t sold to compete with luxury cars like the M3 or Audi S or RS models because they were never that, Honda didn’t even advertise them to compete with Subaru or Mitsubishi during those peak years so why is it that a $50k price tag is justifiable? It isn’t and we shouldn’t continue to pat car companies on the back for giving us a sports car but at a price that the intended buyer can’t even afford. You don’t see a lot of 55+ year olds lining up to buy these things.

[@LuisRojas-tx3lr]

Nothing in it's price tag match it on the track. You have to spend $20k+ to match the track performance

[@ShaiyanHossain]

not really, a camaro ss 1le costs the same and will wipe the floor with the civic lol @@LuisRojas-tx3lr

[@Powers242]

There's no point in buying this. Dealer mark ups are ridiculous. Get an M2. Much better car for the same price or less.

[@blueberrycobbler]

But it can be bought for MSRP in certain areas. New England has several dealerships where you can purchase them for MSRP.

[@armandoortiz9920]

Only reason I disagree is a m2 will drop in value 10x worst then the type r but m2 is a lot nicer but will have alot more issues

[@3joewj]

It's 46k right now.

[@assassin7250]

@@3joewj 46k where? from second hand or dealer?

[@3joewj]

@assassin7250 the type r ...is 47k in my area...brand new

[@rumco]

FL5 is worse looking than FK8. If I wanted that boring look, I'd buy a BMW.

[@looneyyang1326]

How old are you? 7? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@wl1896]

The whole design is too simplistic, and boring.

[@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr]

The fk8 type r might look boy racer but it definitely performs better than the fl5 🤷🏽

[@bobbybooshay5854]

How so?

[@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr]

@@bobbybooshay5854 straight line the fk8 is faster and handling both with the same tires it just as good

[@bobbybooshay5854]

@@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr i guess, there are other changes like the interior and exterior design, the infotainment system, bose audio system etc.. All of that adds up and before you know it the car costs more

[@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr]

@bobbybooshay5854 those things are minor differences imo if the performance is the same which in this case it really isn't it shouldn't cost more 🤷🏽

[@JorgeCabrera-zh7yr]

@bobbybooshay5854 you want interior design and audio system buy a bmw or mercedes

[@elonmusk8667]

This car is slowwww