The Messed Up Origins™ of The Iron Giant | Classics Explained - Jon Solo

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Jon Solo

Jon Solo

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@JonSolo
@JonSolo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, gang! I am SO sorry about the inconsistent uploads lately. I've been working on some BIG projects behind the scenes (major update video coming soon) and have a cross-country move + Lauren and I's wedding coming up next month so the schedule is going to be a littleee weird until July. I am truly grateful for all your support and patience during this chaotic time and I hope the content I'm able to put out until then is worth the wait. (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)⁣
@Haley_Halo
@Haley_Halo 2 жыл бұрын
You've been as consistent as possible with your uploads, Jon, even when life has been Hella hectic and we are here for it. Thank you for bringing these stories to life!
@rickeythomas8345
@rickeythomas8345 2 жыл бұрын
@Jon Solo can u do the Origin of nezha
@courtneysgroi5233
@courtneysgroi5233 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!! Just a suggestion; Origins of Prince and the Pauper? ❤
@Tiorickyzx
@Tiorickyzx 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to get the trademark for messed up Origins
@shay4068
@shay4068 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that you were getting married, I thought that you are already married? Congratulations anyway and may your life be happy and fruitful
@kommiekoathanger1418
@kommiekoathanger1418 2 жыл бұрын
A giant metal robot of unknown origins fighting a continent sized dragon from space is the most 50’s sci-fi story plot ever and I love it
@RollerCoasterFrolicking
@RollerCoasterFrolicking Жыл бұрын
This sounds like Godzilla vs mecha Godzilla but the roles are reversed
@conanladler3472
@conanladler3472 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the plot to a sleep song
@azmanabdula
@azmanabdula Жыл бұрын
Invaders from mars 1953? Or am I thinking of a different movie? I remember there were a couple im probably confusing Old late night TV with nothing else to watch back in the 90's
@Midget32
@Midget32 Жыл бұрын
Spoilers!
@azmanabdula
@azmanabdula Жыл бұрын
@@Midget32 Spoiled!
@brianlevine871
@brianlevine871 2 жыл бұрын
Just the idea of seeing the Iron Giant battle a 'space-bat-angel-dragon' sounds awesome, but it still sounds so random knowing this happened in the original book. Maybe if they used that concept in either "Ready Player One" or the second "Space Jam," then it could probably work. Also, the book had a sequel?!
@benthomason3307
@benthomason3307 2 жыл бұрын
It almost feels like the plots of two separate books Frankensteined together, doesn't it?
@ShuTheIdiot
@ShuTheIdiot 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the iron woman, I remember reading it as a kid expecting a sequel to the movie but it was a bizarre read.
@MASTEROFEVIL
@MASTEROFEVIL 2 жыл бұрын
300th like
@supersquid0045
@supersquid0045 2 жыл бұрын
The closest to this fight is The Mecha Godzilla vs Iron Giant fight in Ready Player One.
@CantRead1
@CantRead1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShuTheIdiot Nowadays people would say it's "Woke" if they made Iron Woman today lmao
@deodusk
@deodusk 2 жыл бұрын
The old iron giant looks absolutely horrifying, i cant imagine how badly the movie would have done if he kept the same design as the original.
@fisharmor
@fisharmor 2 жыл бұрын
As far as box office receipts, it had nowhere to go but UP. We're looking at it through the lens of a quarter century of longevity but this is yet another film, like so many others that stand up to repeated viewings, that basically got made by accident. The studio wanted crap and when Bird didn't deliver they worked against it pretty much every way they could.
@GrandmasterDevo
@GrandmasterDevo 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. That front cover terrified me as a child. That glassy-eyed stare drawn in that gritty old-timey style was the stuff of nightmares to 8-year old me.
@A-G-F-
@A-G-F- 2 жыл бұрын
To me it just looks like a very generic 60's sci-fi autonomus robot, but i dont know, maybe it was terrifying back then too, or maybe it was just a normal thing, only someone from the 60's could tell us.
@lucifermorningstar8562
@lucifermorningstar8562 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of that weird baby robot thing from Dragon Ball GT.
@lucifermorningstar8562
@lucifermorningstar8562 2 жыл бұрын
@@fisharmor And the only reason it did bad in the box office was because of horrendously bad marketing. Nobody knew it was even out or what it was about. But it got great reviews by everybody who watched it.
@JaceDanielFilms
@JaceDanielFilms 2 жыл бұрын
gotta say, I prefer the movie, the story felt more coherent. The dragon plot made it feel more like a fantasy and dream-like. Nothing wrong with that, but the movie just works better as a story.
@blankalt
@blankalt 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the nuclear bomb was a stand-in for the dragon. Y'know, both involve giant balls of fire.
@LostSoulSilver
@LostSoulSilver 2 жыл бұрын
They're both from space, and who knows what's out there
@history-jovian
@history-jovian 2 жыл бұрын
@@LostSoulSilver mmmm *totally not sweating profusely*
@Coco_1958
@Coco_1958 2 жыл бұрын
@@LostSoulSilver galaxies
@SignificantPressure100
@SignificantPressure100 Жыл бұрын
you like the movie better because youre nostalgic of it and therefore biased.
@Trey5S5S
@Trey5S5S 2 жыл бұрын
Who would've thought that a continent-sized space dragon would have so much shame and pride that it would scorch itself in the sun and submit to being a slave to a tiny metal man, just to avoid "looking weak/like a coward" in front of billions of inferior creatures that it was just going to eat anyway. Brilliant story writing
@schizophrenic_rambler
@schizophrenic_rambler Жыл бұрын
Well, dragons are the embodiment of the seven sins
@doctor-void2004
@doctor-void2004 10 ай бұрын
@@schizophrenic_rambler Some dragons do embodiment the 7 sins but not all of them, there are dragons that embodiment wisdom and luck, though all dragons universally embodiment power.
@gilgameshthetreasurehunter2750
@gilgameshthetreasurehunter2750 7 ай бұрын
@@doctor-void2004 Its mostly the western dragons that embody sins, like Pride or Greed. While eastern dragons are wisdom and luck and what not.
@KuperSpyronicStudios
@KuperSpyronicStudios 5 ай бұрын
"Do it no balls"
@Tweetymeany
@Tweetymeany 3 ай бұрын
@@gilgameshthetreasurehunter2750the dragon shown clearly has the likeness of a western dragon
@everettbrooking710
@everettbrooking710 2 жыл бұрын
Jon needs to make a Messed-up Origins of Sweeney Todd! He could talk about the real-life events that inspired the story.
@constipatedinsincity4424
@constipatedinsincity4424 2 жыл бұрын
There's already a video on Sweeney that he's done. He has a wide variety of subjects. Just check it out and enjoy all your future endeavors!
@themandalorianjedi5477
@themandalorianjedi5477 2 жыл бұрын
@@constipatedinsincity4424 where because I can’t find it
@olly2027
@olly2027 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched that movie last week.
@luwanabennett1054
@luwanabennett1054 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness, I was telling my brother the same thing! Lol
@constipatedinsincity4424
@constipatedinsincity4424 2 жыл бұрын
@@luwanabennett1054 Great Minds Think Alike 🤔
@Secarious
@Secarious 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly really enjoyed that rant at the end about people being so annoyingly focused on villainizing anyone who doesn't think exactly the same as them.
@thecardboardboxl3922
@thecardboardboxl3922 2 жыл бұрын
That was one heck of a moral.
@Oroborus710
@Oroborus710 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more with every word he spoke, I'm definitely subbed after hearing how clearly tight your head is screwed on. Just because I'm curious to learn more about something doesn't mean I support it.
@jaseshamer6339
@jaseshamer6339 Жыл бұрын
What the fuck is with kindness
@jaseshamer6339
@jaseshamer6339 Жыл бұрын
That’s too fucking much of it
@jaseshamer6339
@jaseshamer6339 Жыл бұрын
Videos
@peterschadenberg9045
@peterschadenberg9045 2 жыл бұрын
I read the book in school when I was a kid. I saw the movie right afterwards, it was interesting to me that the movie had a very, very different plot to the book. I only saw the movie as a kid hadn't rewatched it as an adult yet, I definitely should. For that matter I should also reread the book for nostalgia reasons. I now understand as an adult the book isn't that well formatted for a film and the movie needed to make the changes that it did.
@maggpiprime954
@maggpiprime954 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've read/heard someone addressing the practical reasons for a screen adaptation. For me, it was the mini series Pillars of the Earth. I wanted to read the book afterwards, and discovered there were very significant changes and omissions in the series. But, there was no way the series could have been kept true to the book, and would in fact ruin the pace, duration, and audience appeal of the screen version. In short, it would've been a dud. The series was great. The book was great. I'm glad they were different.
@blackrex828
@blackrex828 2 жыл бұрын
I never knew the movie was inspired by a book. I've seen the movie a couple of times since I was a kid and still say it's another one my favorite animated movies from my childhood, shoot I still remember my mom taking me and my little brother to this movie-library store to pick out some movies for the weekend and The Iron Giant was one of them; ever since I loved the movie. Since I'm really into reading I'ma see if I can buy the book on Kindle.
@N_I_G_H_T--343
@N_I_G_H_T--343 2 жыл бұрын
i like the movire
@protorhinocerator142
@protorhinocerator142 2 жыл бұрын
The movie is definitely worth a rewatch or 20 as an adult. You will fall in love with the story all over again.
@blackrex828
@blackrex828 2 жыл бұрын
@RogerwilcoFoxtrot how do they love to hate anti-communism, when some of their big block buster movies goes against communism.
@teslawolverine7009
@teslawolverine7009 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason I really love the introduction of the dragon and the inclusion of a space dragon itself
@Ayo_Acer69
@Ayo_Acer69 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed is that in the movie, when the giant thought that hogarth was dead, the giant literally turns into the most dangerous weapon in history, but in the book, it does not say any of that
@DoubleDealingDisarray
@DoubleDealingDisarray 2 жыл бұрын
The dragon kind of reminds me of Alduin, the World-Eater from Skyrim. The Iron Giant from the movie resembles the alien ships from War of the Worlds. And I'd definitely be curious about the Iron Woman. Thanks for this! I can't wait for the next one! :D
@fae206
@fae206 2 жыл бұрын
When I was growing up in the UK there was a time in classes where we read this book followed by listening to the radio broadcast of war of the worlds, not sure exactly why we did that
@DoubleDealingDisarray
@DoubleDealingDisarray 2 жыл бұрын
@@fae206 That sounds epic! But that's just me. X) I heard War of the Worlds once and that was when I was living in a hotel just before or just as the pandemic hit.
@chrisa7905
@chrisa7905 2 жыл бұрын
Reminded me of Ancalagon The Black from Tolkien’s writings. Although I think that is probably what Skyrim was paying homage to with Alduin.
@DoubleDealingDisarray
@DoubleDealingDisarray 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisa7905 I think I remember hearing about that dragon when looking up Tolkien's works, but haven't read them myself.
@fictionsmith3688
@fictionsmith3688 2 жыл бұрын
Skyrim idea, be a Dwemer centurion in full on armor and roleplay as a giant, then you have to fight Alduin the dragon
@birdybathtime389
@birdybathtime389 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I want to see what the dragon would’ve looked like in the movies style
@nickh5081
@nickh5081 2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing there are some old Godzilla/Japanese monster movies that might have something similar!
@sydneytuah7853
@sydneytuah7853 2 жыл бұрын
He said the dragon was as big as a continent Godzilla is only 400 to 500 feet tall Nowhere near that
@creativitysubs9935
@creativitysubs9935 2 жыл бұрын
Probably bad...
@A-G-F-
@A-G-F- 2 жыл бұрын
@@sydneytuah7853 Godzilla Earth or whatever his name is, its pretty darn big
@joaodala549
@joaodala549 2 жыл бұрын
@@A-G-F- he's only 300 meters tall. Ghidorah is 4km long(neck only) and is still TINY
@Zoebeetroot
@Zoebeetroot 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I always thought the movie (having read the book also) resonated a little more because it was a “the monster doesn’t always look like one to everyone (or themselves)” theme stuck more with me than a creature with outside influences, though both are a poignant parallel of the truth of our world/humankind. The dragon also seems to emphasize, as does the Iron Giant, the nature v nurture debate.
@LackedPlays
@LackedPlays 2 жыл бұрын
I am so impressed that they made a touching movie out of this fantastic acid trip of a book
@sgrwaffles8948
@sgrwaffles8948 2 жыл бұрын
It's not really messed up. It's kind of heart warming and just makes you feel good that he saved all of humanity.
@PeterParker-ff7ub
@PeterParker-ff7ub Жыл бұрын
it is
@matthewkuscienko4616
@matthewkuscienko4616 Жыл бұрын
I agree. With the title of the video referring to it as the "messed up" origins, I was expecting something darker and more sinister. That said, aside from a dragon big enough to drawf a kaiju in size randomly appearing at the end of the book, it wasn't all that different than the movie it got adapted into, especially in tone
@schizophrenic_rambler
@schizophrenic_rambler Жыл бұрын
I'd be pretty much horrified if I knew there were Lovecraft style monstrous man-children just out there that were constantly listening to what we do.
@crossbones116
@crossbones116 2 жыл бұрын
I always imagined that if the Iron Giant got a sequel, he would have had to fight an animated version of the Space Bat Angel Dragon.
@johnnygyro2295
@johnnygyro2295 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense to me.
@iamanowl26
@iamanowl26 2 жыл бұрын
There is a sequel to the book.
@Fold-103
@Fold-103 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamanowl26 godzilla vs space bat angel dragon who would win
@iamanowl26
@iamanowl26 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fold-103 don't care
@morganrussman
@morganrussman 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the ending of the film did hint at a possible sequel but we never got it sort of like with monsters vs aliens. Edit: but, if they did do a sequel, it would be interesting where they would take the movie.
@kaitstanley5424
@kaitstanley5424 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this video for a while and I'm so happy it's here!! Please cover the messed up origins of The Black Cauldron in the future!!
@BriaunnaMartinez
@BriaunnaMartinez 2 жыл бұрын
Me and you have the same thoughts!!
@gabrielaabreudearaujo2580
@gabrielaabreudearaujo2580 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea. Because even has dark scenes, the film The Black Cauldron is good.
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567 2 жыл бұрын
I've been asking for the Matter of Britain for ages. Maybe linking it to The Black Cauldron series will make my wish come true.
@Project_DualLegend
@Project_DualLegend 2 жыл бұрын
Iron giant is a movie that never gets old.
@Rogue-76
@Rogue-76 2 жыл бұрын
the part with the giant red star approaching from Orion's Belt was pretty freaky its mind boggling how different the book is from the movie
@schizophrenic_rambler
@schizophrenic_rambler Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I was somewhat excited when the star began approaching, thinking it was heading down a Lovecraft or Junji Ito style horror, but then it became a children's bedtime story with the dumbest villain I've seen in a long time.
@etrangray-mane8610
@etrangray-mane8610 5 ай бұрын
I mean, technically it *is* a children's book. The normal world is scary enough for a child, you don't need to introduce the Lovecraftian horror so soon.​@@schizophrenic_rambler
@mortalphantom29
@mortalphantom29 2 жыл бұрын
Certain aspects of the “Iron Giant” (book and movie) remind me of the story behind the heavy metal classic “Iron Man” (Black Sabbath). A mysterious man/creature/something who means no harm the human race is shunned, hated and feared for simply existing (or in the case of the song, trying to save humanity from the future he witnessed) only to get redemption in one or another. Wow that was longer that expected
@gonelooney5698
@gonelooney5698 Ай бұрын
you really need to read a copy of Ozzy's lyrics, Iron Man was built to save humanity then treated as useless garbage when he was no longer needed so he went insane and turned to killing people - Iron Giant is a stranger to humans who treat him badly that still saves everyone from a real threat.
@peachblossom13
@peachblossom13 2 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda surprised at no one mentioning how there are some similiarities to Studio Ghibli's castle in the sky. Maybe Miyazaki drew some inspo from this story?
@vicenteabalosdominguez5257
@vicenteabalosdominguez5257 Жыл бұрын
I don't know. Giant but metal doesn't strike me as the most difficult concept to come up with. Couple that with the fact Miyasaki is very anti war himself and it's entirely possible both men came up with the same idea independently of each other. This seems more like a case of two people with similar mindsets coming up with a similar idea to me. Edit: spelling.
@justinlapid2163
@justinlapid2163 Жыл бұрын
Also dents. Both iron /metal men characters got dents in em hehe
@neyou6940
@neyou6940 11 ай бұрын
​@@vicenteabalosdominguez5257Nah Ghibli is just a loser
@hurdygurdyguy1
@hurdygurdyguy1 5 ай бұрын
I can even see some resonances in Miyasaki's Nausicaa with the Giant Warrior...
@tamarasmith9060
@tamarasmith9060 2 жыл бұрын
There's a sequel? How have I not heard of it? Yes, please! It had been so long since I saw the story (movie version) @ a friend's house that I literally forgot everything it was about. Also I somehow missed that the book was different or else I would've gotten it from the school library & read it.🙂
@Rydax
@Rydax 2 жыл бұрын
After hearing this story, it makes me wonder if the song "Iron Man" was inspired by that book. But they explored the idea of "what if the giant wanted revenge instead?"
@WhoThePukkIsThis
@WhoThePukkIsThis 9 ай бұрын
Who's song is it I wanna listen to it now what's the artist or band and the song please and thanks
@fullautomaton5948
@fullautomaton5948 9 ай бұрын
Black Sabbath - Iron Man
@daveholly9005
@daveholly9005 9 ай бұрын
Inspired by the Ted Hughes book I always assumed. I imagined the song being from the perspective of the villagers who got the Iron Man wrong in the first instance. A Frankenstein type theme.
@thisiswhatilike54
@thisiswhatilike54 4 ай бұрын
It isn’t. Neither the Marvel comics superhero nor the giant metal visitor, but it’s own story. Though much like the sci-fi movies of the 50s as we see in Iron Giant, it follows a man who goes to the future and witnesses the apocalypse, goes back to his own time, but space radiation or some such renders him into a metal… thing that cannot speak. Despite being mute and immobile, he tries to warn everyone of the impending doom, but is ridiculed. He eventually gets so enraged that he brings about the very cataclysm he came back to warn everyone about.
@Rydax
@Rydax 4 ай бұрын
@@thisiswhatilike54 That's pretty interesting! Thank you for the information.
@henriquesouza8704
@henriquesouza8704 Жыл бұрын
"what if a gun had a soul" is such a great way to put it. I love it.
@walrusmedia4035
@walrusmedia4035 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading this book back in primary school. Was so disappointed when the giant space dragon wasn't in the film. In hindsight this book actually Inspired a fair few of my ideas.
@simonwilliams6140
@simonwilliams6140 2 жыл бұрын
Ted Hughes was one of the great writers of the twentieth century. Poet Laureate, famous as much for his stormy marriage to American writer Sylvia Plath as for his dark and disturbing poetry. The Iron Man (renamed Iron Giant for the US) takes many of Hughes favourite tropes (Shamanistic death and rebirth particularly) and weaves them into a bedtime story for children. Plath’s suicide (often blamed on Hughes) was still fresh when this book was written and it’s amazing to see how such a simple narrative can carry such a heavy load. Death and rebirth, sin and redemption. It’s mythic stuff.
@TitularHeroine
@TitularHeroine 2 жыл бұрын
THAT Ted Hughes! Thank you! I just let the video play while halfheartedly scrolling the comments and where I knew the from nagging my brain. So, cool! Unpausing.....
@crypticcorgi8280
@crypticcorgi8280 2 жыл бұрын
There was an open ending in The Iron Giant movie. With him reassembling. If they ever get to it, I wonder if we will get an Iron Giant Kaiju fight. Because that would be as "rad" as the nuclear bomb irradiated Giant.
@gnikawpleasant9013
@gnikawpleasant9013 2 жыл бұрын
I cried so hard during this movie when I was a kid. Then I showed it to my son and we cried together lol
@Extremeredfox
@Extremeredfox 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis. What you said at the end hit home in so many ways and summed up much of the huge problems with modern day social media. Well done.
@peglegtimm4778
@peglegtimm4778 2 жыл бұрын
I've listened to a few of your episodes tonight while doing some schoolwork, and your soapbox moment made me stop what I was doing, very well put. Definitely got a subscribe out of me there.
@justineck5664
@justineck5664 2 жыл бұрын
I was so sad last week when i saw you didn't have a new episode out but I'm glad you're back with another great story for us. The screenplay sounds a lot like how star girl was written. The writer's sister died in a car crash so he created star girl and gave her the same name as his sister and designed her to look like her too.
@erikarussell1142
@erikarussell1142 2 жыл бұрын
I want to hear anything you have to give us. Your content is so wholesome and intriguing. You never fail to capture my attention and deliver a great message. Thanks Jon.
@uraveragewiteguy
@uraveragewiteguy 2 жыл бұрын
😑
@andyleclerc3600
@andyleclerc3600 2 жыл бұрын
Pete Townsend of The Who was one of the producers of the movie, he was slated to musicalize it, having done so previously with an IRON MAN musical concept album (which has some good tracks on it and a ton of guest artists). Even though the musical idea was abandoned, he and Des MacAnuff(who directed TOMMY on Broadway) maintained their credits.
@GrandmasterDevo
@GrandmasterDevo 2 жыл бұрын
I never actually read the book (the front cover scared me as a child), but I'd learn about the story years later through a friend who had read it, though I had seen the movie by then. While I certainly appreciate the message that both book and film were trying to convey, the film did it in a more coherent and less bat-shit crazy way.
@minicle426
@minicle426 5 ай бұрын
I think you simply didn't get the book that's all.
@peterchambers2401
@peterchambers2401 2 жыл бұрын
This book was one of the very few I ever read start to end in School, I also vaguely recall there being an "The Iron Woman" book but barely able to recall much of the story aside the cover it had. No mention of it on Wikipedia either, still it's a memory burnt into trivia for me.
@VERNONTHECRAFTER
@VERNONTHECRAFTER Жыл бұрын
Someone messed with the timeline again 🤣🤣
@cr0-okedglasses814
@cr0-okedglasses814 2 жыл бұрын
May you do the messed up origins of “The Town Musicians of Bremen”? My sister-in-law is from there and it’s a huge cultural story.
@becca7101
@becca7101 2 жыл бұрын
Okay wow I wasn’t expecting to feel emotional today the iron giant is truly a beautiful film and a staple to my childhood! Also Vin diesel as the giant just hits different
@Gaia_BentosZX5
@Gaia_BentosZX5 2 жыл бұрын
The book also has the same emotional impact as you gotta REALLY feel bad for the giant, having to defend the guys that initially wanted to kill him because of their own arrogance and corrupted ideologies due to fear and paranoia consuming them.
@Quick-Silver206
@Quick-Silver206 2 жыл бұрын
The stuff you mentioned at the end, exposing yourself to more ideas to become more informed, I can't agree more. Definitely subbed! Also the scene at the beginning when the kid is watching the horror movie used to scare me.
@expertfilmliam
@expertfilmliam Жыл бұрын
I learnt about The Iron Man book in Literacy back in Year 4 (British Grading) I was mixed on it but I never forgot about the story and I was interested in it for the most part, it was definitely a unique story when it came to learning about Fiction with deep and foreboding messages and I didn’t even know about the film adaptation to a while later.
@redsquirrel6131
@redsquirrel6131 2 жыл бұрын
Jon have you ever been interested in others cultures gods and goddesses? You could have your pick of mythology and current religious deities. I'm most interested in Japanese and Chinese religious practices and deities. You could also do a run down of the Emperors, emperors wives, and the royal concubines through the eras. Not sure if you'd be interested, but I thought I could at least ask.
@RedRoseSeptember22
@RedRoseSeptember22 2 жыл бұрын
I know he mentioned he'd be delving into Egyptian mythology soon :) and I know he did Polynesian mythology not too long ago, or some of it that is. But yes I'd love to hear from other cultures and learn.
@comicgirl267
@comicgirl267 2 жыл бұрын
The original story sounds so amazing. I haven’t seen the movie in years but it’s a great film, and honestly the book sounds even cooler to me. One drawing of the giant kinda looks like the original Iron Man design. I’m really interested in reading the original story. And yes, please do one on The Iron Woman.
@givethewifi
@givethewifi 2 жыл бұрын
Dang Jon, you're looking like a straight Chad these days. I just wanted to say thank you for the content, I have been watching you for some 5 years now and your content is still great,. Keep it up!
@nellywilliams2776
@nellywilliams2776 2 жыл бұрын
Chad 😂😂😂
@milesjolly6173
@milesjolly6173 2 жыл бұрын
I think I read the book in primary school when I was about 6 or 7. We also acted it out and I had to pretend to be the giant. I remember lying on the floor, kicking my legs out, while the other kids pretended to be the villagers burying the giant. I’ve seen the Iron Giant movie and thought it was great but to be honest I don’t really remember much about the book.
@ddelv1601
@ddelv1601 2 жыл бұрын
The Iron Man and Iron Giant seem to share some of the same theme's as The Day The Earth Stood Still. It's not hard to imagine following WWII and the Start of the atomic age that man's ability to destroy things was going to eventually spill over into our own destruction. Keep in mind if you were in your 30s in the early 1950s you probably grew up with horses being used as practical transportation. Then over the course of your fairly short time on earth we developed practical planes, jets, nuclear bombs, TV, and digital computers. The early 1900s was a hell of a time.
@Pynaegan
@Pynaegan 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite movies. (Never read the book) I *never* suspected the giant of being a malicious killing machine and member of an invading force. (Especially after seeing the "dream sequence") Rather, he was a part of a planetary defense system that ultimately failed as his planet was obliterated.
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert Жыл бұрын
I guess the civilization that built him was extremely xenophobic. That explains why his AI is on a hair trigger to go into destructo mode and why his weapons are so destructive.
@jmbiiesq
@jmbiiesq 2 жыл бұрын
This was great - but I especially connected with your closing monologue- 100 percent spot on!
@LITTERBOOTS
@LITTERBOOTS 2 жыл бұрын
Now that you told us about a sequel called “The Iron Woman”, you have to cover that! As for this video, I absolutely loved it! Your analysis at the end came with an important message that voices what most of us are thinking. We’re tired of this dehumanization and divide that is tearing us all apart! Your depth and insight have always been a treasure, Jon! And this one is one of the greats!
@iamanowl26
@iamanowl26 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't that Maggie Thatcher? 🤣
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 2 жыл бұрын
To dehumanise is to be human. As it's our best talent and skill. It's why we watch police car chases, Touring Car races and Stock Car races, expecting a massive crash, it's why we wish death on people, it's why we seek conflict, and it's how we rationalise our hypocrisies. We are simple animals, primates specifically, who refuse to understand the unknown because our brains and our species as a whole have evolved to be lazy and constantly desiring to seek out what's easy for us to do and live with. To fight with each other is to be as human as we can be, again, we're simple, stupid and incompetent animals addicted to conflict and warfare, and we'll continue to be simple, stupid and incompetent animals until the day we die. To wish for hope and optimism is only demonstrating to the whole world (especially the internet, for the internet never forgets or forgives anything or anyone) how idiotic you are as a human being, proving my point that humans are idiotic and simple animals just like everything else. No lives matter for a reason mate, it's the way of the world and it will never change. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
@ddee3743
@ddee3743 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamanowl26 sounds like Statue of Liberty tho
@SaltyBallzz
@SaltyBallzz 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you integrated your life’s woes into the plot ;) 👍
@djpeabody32
@djpeabody32 8 ай бұрын
I'm so happy your videos started popping up in my feed. It's a pleasure to watch and learn something new.
@projectkabal
@projectkabal 2 жыл бұрын
Fing hell Jon.. you said it, you have said what a lot of people need to hear thank you for you bravery!! I am now forever a fan!! So insightful.
@spikestreak
@spikestreak 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you are covering this movie. It's amazing and I'm excited to see what your video has offer regarding it 🤖
@SodorTrain1225
@SodorTrain1225 2 жыл бұрын
11:18 Perhaps the story is set in Great Britain. My reasoning, that illustration shows a British steam engine, what I think is a T9 "Greyhound" being dismantled.
@Dbts0214
@Dbts0214 Жыл бұрын
22:45 the hand gesture with "space bat angel dragon thats bigger than Australia" I died 😂
@dravendfr
@dravendfr 2 жыл бұрын
25:00 Standing ovation and a breath of fresh air.
@hobonickel840
@hobonickel840 2 жыл бұрын
This story is could very well be a cryptic reference to The Golem ...(Legendary Ancient Jewish Myrhology). Not sure how this angle might have been missed as it's definitely worth mentioning due to the similarities and the fact the The Golen myth predates anything else... **mythology is wrong term ..it's listed in wiki as folklore
@kristibunny1620
@kristibunny1620 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t expecting this rant but SOOooo refreshing to hear another person tired of the divide. Thank you for using your platform to bring people together instead of apart
@georgianagheorghe8848
@georgianagheorghe8848 2 жыл бұрын
I like the way you presented the differences between the book and the movie, and you are so right with the moral of the story. If we let society's opinions and expectations get the best of us, we will never have an identity of our own. We will end up destroying ourselves for a mass of people that doesn't give a dime on us.
@TherealAmySquirrel
@TherealAmySquirrel 2 жыл бұрын
I loved your final thoughts on this!
@kimichan5
@kimichan5 Жыл бұрын
YES please cover the sequel!! I like what you said about being intellectually curious and hearing people out and not being overly loyal to any cause or ideology. Honestly free hearing this, I think I like the movie better. It is so moving and touching.
@Daisiesandcherryblossom
@Daisiesandcherryblossom 2 жыл бұрын
Iron Giant is the movie that's always in my head and makes me question myself whether or not I just made this movie up or did I actually watch it as a kid. I have to rewatch this as an adult. I know I loved it before and watched it many times but somehow couldn't remember it anymore.
@stonyclouds94
@stonyclouds94 2 жыл бұрын
I still don't think you get enough love or thanks for the level of geek you take on in historical pop-culture. Mad unique and precise content to enjoy. As I am happy to see how far you are after about 3 years of watching your work! I still say you deserve twice the views if not 10 x!
@FangZ_07
@FangZ_07 2 жыл бұрын
I would honestly be absolutely love if they made another movie following the books story I think it could be really cool
@Typesmacker
@Typesmacker 2 жыл бұрын
Great narration. Great story. Great moral in the story.
@largepurplemonkey
@largepurplemonkey 2 жыл бұрын
This was an interesting recap - I love the movie, but I grew up with the book, and I remember being confused at how the film didn't match up with my memory. That being said, I don't remember the part with the dragon at all! But that illustration of the hand bursting out of the ground took me right back to being about 9yrs old again
@kelly-bisson
@kelly-bisson 2 жыл бұрын
Is he serious about the Iron Woman thing? Because if so, then yes. I want to hear about it and I want to hear about it from Jon specifically.
@robertdragoff6909
@robertdragoff6909 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody remember Gigantor?…. The book in some way is like a fairy tale, and it also sort of sounds like a Japanese monster movie! The movie also comes across as a Japanese monster movie as the military is brought in to fight the Iron Giant. Good video about the Iron Giant and his two stories….
@LoesserOf2Evils
@LoesserOf2Evils 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember. I also remember a Saturday-morning cartoon about Gigantor.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 2 жыл бұрын
Gigantor was a Shonen manga first and foremost.
@MrBschwarz
@MrBschwarz 2 жыл бұрын
The movie reminded me of the Japanese live action series, "Johnny Sokko and His Flying Robot."
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrBschwarz also created by Mitsuteru Yokoyama.
@NanaBowana
@NanaBowana 2 жыл бұрын
The iron giant is one of my favorite movies, it's message has always resonated with me. Thank you for covering this, it was really interesting to see the difference between the book and the movie.
@Stardust_Torna
@Stardust_Torna 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this sure was eye opening and I think I might have found my favorite book of all time
@SHAINON117
@SHAINON117 Жыл бұрын
Your speech at the end of that made me tear up 💕
@Emunah_
@Emunah_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this amazing movie and for giving your 2 cents on the atmosphere of society today. Nice to know I am not the only one that feels like that and that you covered this amazing story!
@burningpegasus
@burningpegasus 2 жыл бұрын
The dragon plot could had totally worked as a sequel in my opinion.
@Jmnzz
@Jmnzz 2 жыл бұрын
Well this story tapped into one of the few genuine fears I have. A giant space serpent coming to Earth. But way bigger than the dragon in this story. I mean so big it could swallow the Earth. Just imagine seeing nothing but its head and glowing yellow eyes in the sky. During the day. Gives me chills. 🥶
@johnlawful2272
@johnlawful2272 2 жыл бұрын
Look up hellstar remina
@johnlawful2272
@johnlawful2272 2 жыл бұрын
Look up hellstar remina
@Naif3mk
@Naif3mk 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnlawful2272 one of my favorite mangas from junji ito
@cthulhupolar60
@cthulhupolar60 Жыл бұрын
how is that something you even think of fearing?
@Jmnzz
@Jmnzz Жыл бұрын
@@cthulhupolar60 My mind has been taken to many strange places over the years. But to point to specifics it started with a phobia of water, which I got over once I taught myself how to swim. Then it was a phobia of huge animals underwater. As a kid I had nightmares of a giant tsunami wave with a colossal whale bigger than the largest cities inside of it. Got over that but between that old fear combined with the Crystalline entity from Star Trek and my love of dragons and there you go 😂
@tehmeex7341
@tehmeex7341 2 жыл бұрын
Your video is amazingly composed. You kept me continuously entertained through it all. The Iron Giant is my favorite animated movie, so learning about its origins has been a real eye opener. Thanks much!
@strongerthanever2039
@strongerthanever2039 2 жыл бұрын
That's the hell of an interpretation, I like it.
@powerleech7057
@powerleech7057 2 жыл бұрын
The original story of the iron giant near end basically was one of the earliest forms of Pacific Rim
@micah459
@micah459 2 жыл бұрын
Now I'm curious as to why they didn't give Hogarth a family in the movie, I feel like that was a missed opportunity.
@timelordvictorious
@timelordvictorious 2 жыл бұрын
Ted Hughes the writer had a tragic life as well. Both his partners took there life. Strangely mirrors that of the producer of the film. Do wonder how much that was in his psyche of Ted Hughes when he maid the book ?.
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 2 жыл бұрын
Spanish: Mexican flag Portuguese: Brazilian flag Spain and Portugal: *They ask you how you are, and you just have to say that you're fine, when you're not really fine, but you just can't get into it because they would never understand* I'd love to join Babbel...but I'd never see my family that the Duolingo Owl is holding hostage ever again.
@dylanbarnes9191
@dylanbarnes9191 2 жыл бұрын
Damn that's tuff man
@stillscrubbin
@stillscrubbin Жыл бұрын
I can't believe I haven't seen this yet, I'm literally crying because I empathize with your last point. I have always been intellectually curious and conversational, but I am from an area in the country (US) where distinction in thought or opinion tends to cause you to be labeled the enemy. Thank you Jon
@radagast7200
@radagast7200 2 жыл бұрын
"Misunderstood Murder Machine"... hey guys,... I found my new spirit animal.
@casellpeterson7424
@casellpeterson7424 2 жыл бұрын
What up Jon Solo i was wondering if you can do please do an Mess Up Origins Of: Hestia The Greek Virgin Goddess Of Hearth, Domesticity, Family, Home, and State or the Mess Up Origins Of: Disney Urban Legend The Cartoon Man in your next video after Iron Giant and i didn't even think or even know that the classic movie Iron Giant had a Mess Up Origins to begin with and now i learn something new tonight thanks for sharing this information with the rest of us loyal fans.
@maryscott1911
@maryscott1911 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for not only sharing this story but your final comments, we I completely agree! Our differences should be our strengths and we should learn from each other's points of view, if only to grow our own understanding of the world. Blessings to you, we love your show!!
@ChirpsalotPlaysGames
@ChirpsalotPlaysGames 10 ай бұрын
I remember loving the iron Giant even when I was a little kid In 99 and early 2000s. Even though I was a little kid I still understood the implications of death that loomed over the entire movie. It was a time when animated movies we're afraid to show violence and the consequences of one's actions doing so, especially shooting first and asking questions later like Chet Manley does letting his ego take over and almost annihiling an town over it. It's a movie that stuck with me forever and I even have an original poster from back then too!
@thedankman1728
@thedankman1728 2 жыл бұрын
Love the wrap-up
@craigskinkle
@craigskinkle 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact: the author, Ted Hughes, was the Poet Laureate of the United Kingdom for 15 years until his death in 1998. He was also Sylvia Plath’s (The Bell Jar) husband at the time of the latter’s death.
@austinfrerichs6313
@austinfrerichs6313 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't the dragon be representing nuclear power? I mean just did a quick second glance because it's been years. Nuclear fission was being studied from 1895 to 1945 (1939- 1945 being more specific to weapons) and from 1945 onward as a means of creating energy to power ships and what not, while simultaneously governments are pushing for bigger bombs (the cold war). And it kind of just runs parallel to the dragon, something that shouldn't be meant for war being corrupted by human intentions potentially destroying the world as we know it.
@stuglife5514
@stuglife5514 2 жыл бұрын
The Iron Giant is one of my favorite stories of all time. I’ve been watching it ever since I was a little kid. It really stuck with me.
@ghoultooth
@ghoultooth 2 жыл бұрын
I’m amazed that quite a lot of people haven’t read the book! Really cool story and honestly, I need to pick up a copy and read it again
@Christian_H3rnand3z
@Christian_H3rnand3z Жыл бұрын
You know, a movie about the original story would be interesting. I imagine either a stop motion movie or a live action movie.
@matthewrogersmusic
@matthewrogersmusic 2 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video. Love the message at the end and the entire theme of this movie/book. This is one of my favorite movies of all time, and I never knew it was so deep. Thank you!
@nickabenson
@nickabenson 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. I never knew how different the original book was from the movie. I would be interested in seeing a video about "The Iron Woman".
@dahandsomeguywithcoolglass8949
@dahandsomeguywithcoolglass8949 2 жыл бұрын
But the setting in Japan that sure are good story I think
@JayBe1992
@JayBe1992 2 жыл бұрын
Goddamn, wow. The moral of the story, that was the peak of this whole video. So oddly specific, yet so relatable from all sides.
@ShinrinnoTatsujinENGVTUBER
@ShinrinnoTatsujinENGVTUBER 2 жыл бұрын
Dang that was deep. I grew up watching the original VHS of the Iron Giant, so this video struck a chord with me.
@samanthaoddsweb
@samanthaoddsweb 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit... there is a sequel!! I read the original book (it was required reading in my school in UK at the time) Out of all the stories and myths you have covered this is news to me. Please do the sequel!! As always you did an amazing job!
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought the cartoon was severely underrated.
@ActiveAdvocate1
@ActiveAdvocate1 2 жыл бұрын
There's a BOOK? Wow, the things you don't know, eh? I've never seen the movie, either, but I get the general idea. So this should be interesting for education's sake.
@prestondean1893
@prestondean1893 2 жыл бұрын
Can you save us? The giant: no. I’ll buy u chick fil a. The giant:…. Ok
@gooneybird808
@gooneybird808 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I watched to the end...I totally agree with you. Awesome video man!
@Alice-or9bu
@Alice-or9bu 2 жыл бұрын
The Iron Giant was definitely a childhood favourite. I’ve seen it so many times and I cry every time at the ending!
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