How to Stop the Three Cap Open! Risk Negotiation Game

[@zacharygrouwinkel1534]

If I play with Pete I’m capping in Iceland just to psychologically sandbag and then beat him in the endgame. 😂

[@topazphoenix6301]

Very rare to see a win with four players still alive on the board (outside of maybe 70%), well done!

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

We take the opportunities when given ❤️

[@davids8345]

1:15:05 - "and it was at this moment that the others realised they had forgotten the basic rule of capital conquest"

[@DrGeoxion]

Ha, you should've posted this video yesterday! You're playing orange with Netherlands cap. Yesterday was kingsday where the country turns orange. Would've been fitting haha

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Damn! One day off. Oranje Boven!

[@Richard-xu7kz]

Red, White, Blue and Orange at the end, very fitting indeed!

[@Shadow_Rogue-num1]

That victory dance at the end was hilarious

[@mhreinhardt]

Man Black picked the worst moment to piss you off, right when you were going to take Russia anyway and break Orient as a pitstop. Good on White for hanging in there, probably the toughest position to play after losing the cap but made it work!

[@ItsThatVogue]

WHAT AN ENDING LOOOOL

[@zacharygrouwinkel1534]

Pete- “glad we see all players live and not bot out” Literally same turn- white bots

[@TheGeopigMan]

43:00 top 10 Pete moments of all time 😂 Are you nuts? Black is behind us! _DON'T POKE THE BEAR_ 🤣

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

🤣🤣🤣👍

[@stevefeak5696]

I’m starting to question the value of multi cap openers on most boards. Unless you can leverage it into extra bonuses quickly, or one cap defends all the others, you have to spend all your troop generation on defense and even then you can’t keep up with someone who got fast bonuses

[@trousersnake81]

Ditto. Getting the feeling it really has to be more than just a second cap, either allowing or facilitating a bonus, or securing a Valuable second position across the board or in a strategic location.

[@GolemDude]

White: Fuk q Red: No fok Yuuu!!!! 💥 Blue: Hehehehe France is mine! White: I’m going to mess you up ☄️ Red: 🔥 White: 🔥 Pete: nope good game *Thanos 🫰

[@johndoh1000]

One hour in and we get a based economics lesson! I love the idea of being able to use the top of the line products without having to owning it. There’s a growing popularity behind the idea of product libraries: ie going to a place just to rent out a thing that you need, that is publicly owned.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

I'm all about using markets where they are adding value. I wasn't sure if enjoy an electric car but more and more it makes sense

[@alexwilliams8131]

Loved the answer to the q&a. I watched the zeitgeist series over 10 years ago and it seriously changed my life more than anything ever has. Opened my eyes to so many things. Also that game could’ve went on forever but ended in just a turn 😂 one of the best things about risk

[@yonasinc7782]

As someone who's studied economics and philosophy (just an associates degree in each, nothing crazy), you're definitely right in that economics is not really a science. It's a social study. essentially it is as much if not more a philosophy than it is a science, in my mildly, but not very, educated opinion.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Probably more educated than mine bro!

[@FerretL0ve]

This was freaking awesome. Great conversation too! Challenged a lot of my preconceptions about economic theory (at least in the lovely utopian world where we “figure out the electoral system” 😅😂). GG Pete!

[@RealClintCapela]

1:08:24 I think the perfect opposite to this is a gym and the weights required. Gyms serve to have both adaptable weights (barbells) and unchangeable ones (dumbbells and kettlebells, medicine balls) [I use odd words as to not confuse people with free/fixed weights]. Overall, a fully decked out rack of dumbbells would cost multiple thousands of dollars alone, plus everything else would cost as much as a decent car per person, though memberships do enable people to have varied options to train to their hearts content. Golf clubs are odd, as obviously 99% of the costs in golfing would be land and maintenance of it, so clubs would make sense to be per say rented like bowling shoes, but we would never consider the idea of a person renting basketball shoes or any sports ball. That sounds fundamentally odd but the only real difference I see between them and bowling shoes being that they a) get sweaty from aerobic exercise, and b) are often suited to foot styles or playstyles, which wouldn’t work for standardised shoes. Cars in my opinion are rather just, for transport is essential for anyone, and public transport definitely makes shopping difficult, or travelling to unique places, plus renting a car/van/truck is tedious at best. Unless you live in a literal city (not suburban) and everything you’ll ever need is nearby or available for delivery, it seems as though private cars are essential, though if you only had a max of 2 passengers and only do light grocery shopping at any given time, motorcycles make far more sense (but buying in bulk tends to be cheaper). We could go further into this renting vs private ownership regarding resources. Your very home you live in? Your bed? You use them at topps for half a day if you ain’t a full degen or old person, and while having roommates/sharing an apartment with friends is a thing (ignoring living with family as that is more of 1 entity in my eyes), then why not share valuable city land with a colleague whilst under operation by a strata group or something akin to property management. Idk, I’m rambling, but where would you draw that line?

[@stephencaron2862]

Pete, when discussing thow great it would be to have the nicest gold clubs available whenever you went golfing, I think you are mistaken. The tragedy of the commons is that the "nice things I don't own", don't stay nice. In the most charitable of tellings, now everyone goes golfing, has no incentive not to smash that nice golf club on a rock because they don't know what they're doing, and that nice golf club is dented-no longer nice. Instead, the golf course buys poor quality equipment because there's no reason to buy nice ones just for them to be destroyed, and instead of promoting golf to the masses, now no one goes golfing because they don't have good equipment... Except those that /own their own/ nice golf clubs.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Yes this is a pessimistic argument about our nature that I do not believe is true

[@tobsi2256]

With things being owned publicly, the public takes on responsibility for everything. The golf club can always just ban the people smashing things. They can have a policy of "come to this course 10 times, and have the nice ones then" or use something like a deposit. There are many ways to answer this problem. In the end, even with all the losses involved, I think society (and companies) will gain a net positive. Your point, though, is a good one with other sports that have a higher consumption than a massive golf club. Car racing or road cycling for example - - but also, a level or deposit system would fix that easily.

[@theinacircleoftheancientpu492]

Deposit system, and a "damage reputation score" like a credit score. If you have a record of damage to items, then perhaps we will offer you the slightly less nice option with the lower deposit.

[@chrisnorthern9897]

@@TheKillPeteStrategy Variance, Pete. It only has to be true of some and variance makes that a certainty. It's correctly a truism that if you didn't earn it you don't value, and that also it applies. There's another point here; if it's mine via the principle of property rights then I can't be denied to use of what's mine because my social credit score has been reduced due to anti-social behavior and we decide what that is and yeah the rules were different the second before and have changed again since but that's not the point. We control you. That's the point.

[@PM023]

​@@TheKillPeteStrategy Pessimistic or not, the evidence that the tragedy of the commons is a very real phenomenon is undeniable. It does appear that certain cultures are able to maintain commons better IE commons of the Scandinavians or Japan. But don't just take my word for it. This is not something so difficult to test. If your theory held any water we would see evidence of it. What golf course can you name that does this? Surely with the money golf courses have coming in one entrepreneurial course owner would have thought of this no? The fact is, people have tried these strategies, and Stephen is absolutely correct, the clubs are ruined with in a year. I'll continue with a little observation. Simply stating you don't want to be political, does not make the following claims about how society should be structured, apolitical. political is defined by decisions or activities related to groups of people such as (get this) the distribution of resources or status. For example, by very definition, UBI is a political opinion. Non the less. Even if your political hot takes, require complete rejection of the basic human condition. I enjoy the content, and keep up the entertaining RISK games.

[@myketh1196]

These settings are so fun (and goated), at the 5 min to vid end point, I knew the only way this game ended was cap run lol wp!

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Ive enjoyed both the caprun endings and the 1v1 endings on these settings. They're interesting in different ways

[@myketh1196]

@@TheKillPeteStrategy I prefer 1 v 1s, cus it’s cool to know you got the fixed we victory as well, but easily the most satisfying cap runs are when you are losing the 1 v 1 and your opponent isn’t protecting his capitals and you get that sweet upset win 🏆

[@edjasa9451]

Who else gets the bob ross vibes till he release his true face 😈

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

What's my true face maaaaaan?

[@edjasa9451]

@@TheKillPeteStrategy dont need to tell u that 😁

[@ItsThatVogue]

Loving this series Pete thanks so much for being so consistent

[@Wolfsspinne]

Question: additional Caps seem to be liabilities as much as they are assets. Like we saw black get two additional caps, however they haven't had tree times the generation - splitting their troops evenly among all caps made them have three weak caps instead of a strong one. And in the end they lost a cap along with all the troops on it. Now I wonder: would it have been better for black to abandon the middle cap and commit their troops to only two caps in orient instead?

[@jairusmiller3293]

Black also allowed white to have bonuses and grow strong rather than taking those bonuses that were between their caps

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

In Fixed caps are absolutely an asset if they are properly used. You want your capital to be strong and open to help both guard what's behind it, and threaten to attack if someone pisses you off. In progressive multiple caps can much more obviously be seen to be liabilities.

[@maxmantycora5132]

"Now we see the "rwhapaah" !! 😄❤👍

[@danaronowicz635]

Top game 🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@trousersnake81]

The most hilarious ending of any game I've ever seen

[@isaacstanley3963]

9:09 immediately ate those words lol

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Lol. Stupid ass game

[@isaacstanley3963]

Luckily he came back shortly after. Cost white his game though!

[@thisisMeDM]

In the middle of a random risk game, you deepen my understanding and change my mind on ownership. As we continue to progress as a species the braggadocios way we hoard and collect is going to fade. That doesn't mean there isn't a place for personal belongings, it just means not intentionally producing varying levels of quality simply for the sake of some people having better than others.

[@avengemybreath3084]

Huh? Quality varies and always will whether we like it or not.

[@thisisMeDM]

@@avengemybreath3084 Quality varies for the sake of capitalism. But I'm not going to rehash something you simply denied without logic. If you disagree back it up with a sound argument

[@avengemybreath3084]

@@thisisMeDM are you 5 years old?

[@thisisMeDM]

@@avengemybreath3084 Ask for a sound argument and get an insult. It's obvious which one of us is a child.

[@avengemybreath3084]

@@thisisMeDM I don’t even know where to begin. If you think the only reason why quality varies is “capitalism.” I guess step one of my argument would be to open your eyes and view the world, in which the human value placed on virtually everything varies dramatically. Only mass production even comes close to generating personal property where quality DOESNT vary. corporate greed does some intentional quality variation, but to assert that as the only source of varying quality is completely divorced from reality.

[@jonathanlindstedt4578]

Hey pete you should try these settings with blizzards they can add intresting moments where 3 players team up to defeat someone with a good pocket

[@kenthartig7065]

If I remember correctly, the reasoning behind not having blizzards is that these settings are meant to consistently produce wins. Blizzards make the game significantly more spawn dependent, which removes some of the potential skill gap.

[@jerrypoppins9033]

I thought the end wouldn’t be satisfying. It was.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

🤟🤟🤟

[@TheShizz011]

Amazing video again Pete! I may have missed the term of "De mora" or something (Sorry I am terrible at spelling things I have never seen written down) but I would very much like to learn about it! :)

[@Nellak2011]

I am only 1/4 through the video, but here is my rankings of skill based on gameplay: 1. Pete (Orange) (One of the greatest players in the world) 2. Black (super smart and respectable plays) 3. Red (Only good bc of luck and position, but no notable plays like black) 4. White (sued into a 15 with a 2, dumbass) 5. Magenta (Plays like a bot, fortifies locked interiors) 6. Blue (Caps in a corner, doesn't expand 😂) edit: Wow, the board really evolves in an unexpected way. Turns out White is better than initially and Black goes from hero to 0. Also, blue has an unexpectedly high amount of troops!

[@hhhbghhighbrow1482]

do you think red was a little too passive letting you and white constantly get more troops then him even though he had almost double your troops at the time and you wouldn't have been able to hit him back?

[@desyncer]

Red was excessively passive. I knew he was done for when white started adding +30 troop at a time to his Africa border and red did absolutely nothing to address it.

[@nyaanyaamewmew]

Put some troops on your capitals.

[@adamjosey1543]

LOL that was the weirdest game.

[@shaneslr9123]

Why choose Netherlands instead of Prussia ?

[@cyruslever586]

Not having your own stuff and resources makes you completely dependant on, and vulnerable to the government to not fuck it up on accident or fuck you over on purpose.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

I'm pretty dependant on the government not fucking things up as it is

[@avengemybreath3084]

@@TheKillPeteStrategywe all are, and they do. Competent governance is in increasingly short supply. Limited government was a brilliant idea of the founders, and a return to that is far superior to the path we are on.

[@lucasfabisiak9586]

How do you solve the economic calculation problem in a resource-based economy?

[@stefanwanzke535]

😁😁😁 Was ein schmutziger Sieg. Blue hat dich dafür garantiert verflucht😅😅😅

[@FabianFeld-i7v]

To the money conversation: I see one problem if it comes to universal ownership. People respect the worth of a thing thing less, if it is not in their personal ownership. They didn‘t pay for it so they don‘t really care o much if it gets demolished. For example: dirty public toilets, or half broken down e-scooters. We also don‘t want to have every single step of every individual controlled to the finest detail. People need privacy. So how to you want to prevent this?

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

If you and everyone you know had all your needs met forever, what would you choose to do? What would you value?

[@FabianFeld-i7v]

@@TheKillPeteStrategy Well, there are things we really need, these are oxygen, water, food, sunlight, etc., then we have things, that help us to provide ourselves with these ressources like, a glass, that can be filled with water, then we have things that we use every day, but are not necessary for survival, that, however, would be very noticable when suddenly removed, and then we have things, that we wish to have but can‘t afford. But, because I could change a diamond ring for water, if I wanted so, (and yes, it is, because someone would do that trade with me, who has water and wants a diamond for some reason, because he seems to value the diamond ring), this luxury good is also from value for me in the end. Anyway, to answer your question, in wich we all already meet out needs hypothically, i wouldn‘t need more water than i already have. The only valuable thing left, that comes to my mind, is: family, friendships, time with people together, talking with them, having fun with women, having grill parties, and being in flow with the nature around myself.

[@Anonymous-ld7je]

​​​@@TheKillPeteStrategy Human nature and the purpose of consciousness, whether we like it or not, is not to be at peace, happy, or even content. The purpose is to maximize the chances of survival and reproduction; that's what all of our senses and thought processes have evolved to do. In other words, people who "have all their needs met, and will forever" will mostly still feel a compulsion to strive for more and achieve even greater levels of resources, comfort, and security. This isn't because they're somehow sick and broken, and don't know how to just be happy, it's the actual opposite. Humanity is wired this way. The somewhat (but not cripplingly so) anxious and unsatisfied hunter gatherer human was far more likely to survive and reproduce than one who is easily content. That's because even if needs are met now, there's more work that can/should be done to ensure the current state of prosperity continues. Someone who is easily content, however, won't see fit to keep working and improving their situation and think "good enough". Then when famine comes, their "good enough" food stores are less likely to last long enough, and their "good enough" shelter is less likely to survive unexpected harsh weather, etc. It's easy to think these ancient survival scenarios don't apply to us. That is false. Events a few years ago showed how easily global supply chains can be broken in a disaster scenario, and how quickly resources such as food can become scarce. Now, that disaster was fairly quickly resolved thankfully, but not every possible disaster that negatively impacts the global supply chain can/will be resolved quickly (or possibly at all). So even in a "utopia" where ownership is not necessary and all needs are met, I would still feel compelled to do more to secure the independence and access to resources of myself and my family. Not because I'm fundamentally broken, but because I'm human and that's our nature. To give a shorter answer, if you told me "You and all your loved ones needs are met forever, so what are you gonna do/value now?" My answer would be "I don't believe you, and even if I did I don't trust outsourcing all the means of the survival of myself and loved ones to others, my reliance on which would be easily exploitable when/if bad people were to come to power. So thanks for the resources but I'll keep working to ensure access to necessary resources for my family myself. That's my purpose, and that's what I feel fulfilled doing, so even if a machine, corporation, or government entity can do it more efficiently than I can myself, I'll still keep doing it."

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

@@Anonymous-ld7je really great analysis and I almost fully agree. I think my quibble would be with your definition of resources when you say 'I would still feel compelled to do more to secure the independence and access to resources of myself and my family.' My suspicion is that in an enviroment when needs are met; wants become the things that we strive and struggle to achieve, and that's a good thing. And I think that's consistent with your analysis of human nature.

[@avengemybreath3084]

@@TheKillPeteStrategythere is no such thing, as human “needs” are not fixed and never will be. If you define them as they were 500 years ago, almost everyone is already there.

[@markjust86]

Do the runner up placements go by amount of troops or territory?

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

I think it's troops but I'm not sure

[@beepboop9848]

Hi pete!! Awesome philosophical take on money

[@cbg1377]

Pretty cool you capped in the Netherlands and you were orange 😊

[@PaulsRuza]

I am checking blue cap choices turn 0, and to be fair to him, I don't see a much better choice, then 1 in scandi might be a bit better, but that is bordering a red 2.

[@stephencaron2862]

Pete, I think you're partially wrong about transportation. I agree that most vehicles are parked 99% of the time and there's something inherently immoral(in part) to that arrangement. However, I think there is morality to the opposing view also, and the logistics of no personal vehicle ownership are poorly imagined. I can't bring groceries for a family of 4 on the bus, and having to wait for an Uber both to and from the store puts me at the whim of another person... And maybe THEIR car breaks down instead of mine and we're back to the same problem. Further, there's value and morality in independence in life; to not require someone else to do for me what I can do myself. There's definitely power in banding together to accomplish that which we cannot accomplish alone(ex: roads) but there's also value to owning vehicles.(And ownership in general, private property has been the largest driving force in raising the most people out of poverty worldwide)

[@zackcinq-mars2129]

Have you heard of Zipcar? Right now its not super popular, but I can imagine a world where car ownership is sparse and zipcars or equivalent are all over the place allowing you to use the vehicle when you need and then someone else can use it when you don't need to any longer. Especially when we have autonomous vehicles, now the zipcars can navigate around to help with the problem of having too many cars not being used stacked up in one location.

[@Sock1122]

34:33 not again 😅

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Hey man we gotta get bad dice sometimes

[@Joshua-fc4oe]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY PETE🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Thanks! My birthday's in July though

[@doomofthedestiny8065]

​@@TheKillPeteStrategyneat, mine to, 29th... the fookin' big four oh 'fer me...

[@werdnv]

1:15:18 😂😂🎉

[@dariuszhorvath-krol8540]

Oh my god, Pete!!! I'm from NYC & I'm 100% With you about how cars are SUCH a Liability and Wasteful!!! Thank you for understanding! 💪🏻🙏🏻

[@RealClintCapela]

Pete, why didn’t you take the Prussia cap (cause nobody with a brain had any hope taking a good noob corner cap as they were all ones and Prussia is both better defensively and it has 4 more cap cards).

[@taesssi]

I know I'm late on the conversation here. The AI, true AI, not the crap that we see mostly right now, has the potential to free jobs and create a society like you are describing. However like i have pointed out to others I've had conversations with, AI is still a tool, it's like when the shovel came out, we stopped needing 6 guys with rocks to dig a hole, 1 could do the same amount of work. However you still need someone to make that shovel, someone to teach that 1 to dig that hole, and someone to supervise. Then the tractor came around, now you got rid of 10 guys with shovels, but still need 1 to operate, 1 to teach, 1 to fix.... You get the point. AI is a tool, people will get displaced, the smart ones will move to being the supervisors or the ones making the AI. At some point, maybe in 50, 100? 150 years? Maybe it can all be by AI and robots. Then we can be free. However this needs to your other point, ownership. Giving up the freedom of ownership will be very difficult. Your golf clubs are an amazing example. You can have a set of golf clubs, best in the world, at your favorite golf course to use, but most people will refuse to use them over owning their shitty golf clubs they own. Until there is a way to engineer the human mind to not have possession, there won't be an ideal society that has no money. Let's not even get into that some people just get an enjoyment out of trading and bartering. Some people get pleasure out of being opposite too. And how will you ever be able to convince people to trust government to always provide what you need? After all even if it's AI ran, it's still going to be either government or corporation controlled, and both will prevent the ideal society. IMO to truly get to that society, there first will need to be a mass struggle, something that affects everyone, and not just the poor. While still having the ability to either keep AI, or rebuild AI quickly. The struggle needs to happen to force the distance from possession and enable trust. After all, we are only human and humans love war.

[@andres.1335]

great game

[@orion0212]

I was annoyed you didn’t slider first turn when you failed Scandy then I realized… ;)

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Old habits die hard!

[@MartyPape78]

I hope you are having an amazing weekend.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Same to you

[@sjmoorez]

I still dislike judging people based off their rank which seems to be a major point of contention. Again I've said I was a master but I don't play but I finished high in the KPO2. And it's not something I play almost ever now outside of you're tournament. But I guess I get the idea...

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

I don't think it's a good way to judge people. Don't get me wrong. It's just the only information we get

[@MM-qm9ld]

43:13 😂

[@ChirpatGaming]

❤😊

[@elenna_alexia]

we might disagree on how to resolve our societal issues and we certainly have a different outlook on things like so-called "AI", but we can definitely agree on saying "fuck that" to people starving while others get to live in excess.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

I don't presume to know how to solve it. I'm more predicting what will happen

[@elenna_alexia]

@@TheKillPeteStrategy I think I'm both more pessimistic in my outlook on what is likely and more radical in my approach to what would be desirable, but I get where you're coming from and I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. we definitely agree that things are forced to change one way or another under the pressure of the contradictions of the current system.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

@@elenna_alexia the thing about pessimistic visions of the future is that if they're true, I won't really get to see them for very long. So I don't tend to spend too much time or energy contemplating the negative and choose to spend my imagination on things that I may actually have some say over.

[@WalkerAndrews]

Black's situation almost felt like a EU Advanced deadliest trap. I thought it had a lot of the same ideas and concepts while you and white squeezed him out.

[@dwarian5252]

Pete first of all great video! I think we are approaching a time where although I don't think AI will take ALL of our jobs, I do think AI will take the vast majority (about 80-95% or so). When this happens, I think there will probably be in the not-worst case scenario a system where everyone or almost everyone will have a basic state of living that can be optionally improved by doing these extra tasks (like entertainment). I'm not completely sure what jobs will not be taken by AI, but one that will appear from this take-over would be jobs where people look for things done by specifically people. stuff like plays or stunts done by real people and probably also done with a physical audience rather than the internet. I'm not completely sure about any of this, this is just my best guess. I'm curious to know about what you think?

[@Max_Griswald]

I don't see AI ever taking over physical security and/or defense.

[@Just_Franco]

GGs to White for surviving like that and to Black for taking that L like a champ :P

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

It's always nice to have a homie for a while

[@abbasgamers4351]

Good at playing 😂😅❤

[@objektschatten3694]

Thumbnail says "unwinable", should be "unwinnable" though

[@sobanya_228]

Love a bit of capitalist realism at the end.

[@Greensiteofhell]

Great war! ;)

[@schongemeldet1]

Algorithm boost 🔥

[@chrisnorthern9897]

Current economic theory and practice is indeed as you describe it and worse, far far worse. The problem with the two organisations you cite is the same ♫plans for everyone ♫ that mindset that has been seen to fail horribly time and again. We are an egocentric species, and there's nothing to be done about that. That's the core problem. Variance in ideas of where one's vested self interests lie and variance in leverage and ability to achieve them. The idea of private central banks and the leverage to make them a reality sure as heck wasn't my idea or in my vested self interest, nor do I have the leverage to make that not a thing, (no more than anyone else does)... but it was someone's idea and was in theirs and they did. For those who have a better idea there's only one thing to do - implement the idea and prove it by doing it so that the success brings people into the new game. Bitcoin was a good idea, and the phrase 'Bitcoin solves this' applies correctly where it is applied to highlight Bitcoins superiority over fiat currencies... yet it isn't much being used as designed, is in fact being incorporated into the current corrupt system and has to all intents and purposes failed - probably.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

The piece of the conversation I like to have is reminding folks that the only relevant political issue is electrical reform. Until we can get to a place where we do have a say over what is in our self interest we will argue, fight and protest in vain

[@chrisnorthern9897]

@@TheKillPeteStrategy “‘Tell me, Tool, what dominates your thoughts?’ The Imass shrugged before replying. ‘I think of futility, Adjunct.’ ‘Do all Imass think about futility?’ ‘No. Few think at all.’ ‘Why is that?’ The Imass leaned his head to one side and regarded her. ‘Because Adjunct, it is futile.” Any system devised by humans can and will be circumvented by other humans, each for their own perceived vested self interest. History is full of examples, and there are no examples where this is not so.

[@rv1097]

I disagree about car ownership when it comes to rural living, having a vehicle is absolutely necessary to make a living outside of cities. especially here in a vast country like Canada where rural living can have you miles from your closest neighbour even.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

The entire premise of making a living is what I'm drawing into question

[@CapnPink28]

I have been in 4 games IN A ROW when someone caps where Blue did in Iceland…..🤣😂🤣😂😡😡😡😡😡

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

Look on the bright side. At least you know there's someone you can easily take in a 1v1

[@CapnPink28]

@@TheKillPeteStrategyI need to start playing these settings….the PRoGRESSIve CAPiTals expert bots hate me…😂🤣😂

[@emrysmyridden]

I think universal income is a terrible idea for a couple reasons first, in my experience, judging both myself and people i have interacted with, idle people behave worse than active people and those people who take part in already existing social programs tend to become less active. and it also negatively affects our own natural selection, not to say eugenics was a good idea but implementing these vast social programs effectively does the opposite which is much worse. Genuinely stupid people who used to get themselves killed and shunned by society are separated from the vast majority of the consequences of their stupidity which gives them the opportunity to integrate into society, procreate, and make decisions that affect the lives of other people. "if all you ever get is a handout, all you'll ever have is a hand out."

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

We don't have a good alternative experiment to point to to answer the question: 'If you and everyone you ever knew always had all of your needs met, what would you choose to do?' And until we can collect this kind of data we're just sort of arguing in circles about human nature here

[@ItsThatVogue]

33 mins in. You could put your 15 stack one territory right and that way if black cap breaks your Germany bonus your cap is open

[@anonpers0n]

a different perspective.... im about your age and have been mostly blind my entire life, you know what the worst part of being blind is? its not having transportation..

[@lordainzog6300]

Hasnt the amount of "rich" people grown in the past 50 years and the amount of middle class people shrinked?

[@benjaminfeest8186]

Your idea of sharing everything and focusing in access vs ownership is insane. Imagine you're playing risk on your shared pc. I want to play now, stop immediately and let me play. What if there are 6 people waiting to play? Who repairs and maintains them? Who decides what gets installed on it? I'd rather own a pc and not wait in line.

[@kenthartig7065]

I don't think Pete meant that everything should be publicly owned. Something like a PC might be better off individually owned because of the reasons you listed. Likewise, sharing personal hygiene stuff like clothes or toothbrushes is kinda gross. However, when it comes to something like cars (as Pete mentioned), it is far more practical to use public transportation whenever possible because it saves resources that society could be using for other issues, not to mention the environmental impact reduced fuel usage would have. If nothing else, this one example is enough to at least say that we as a society might be better off reevaluating how important it is for us to own a good portion of the things we have. Come to think of it, I might be able to cook with the public PC idea, but if I were to start spelling that out, we'd be missing the forest through the trees. So I'll stop here.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

It's not my idea. And I'm definitely insane. A tiny fraction of people owning almost everything is equivalently insane though

[@SirConfectionery]

50 minutes in and this is such an odd game. It's as if red and blue just don't exist. Red outnumbers everyone by a huge amount yet does nothing. Blue has had a clear line to take whites centre capital for ages yet makes no move. I find it absurd that white can hold that much board and for so long seeing how little troops he has.

[@nabedane]

White was allowed to exist for so long because Pete used them to kill off black. Red and blue had no interest in going after white because it would have weakened them too much and they were in a decent position. Petes big open cap in the Netherlands meant whoever goes after his white buddy is in big trouble. Then, white was allowed to exist again because Pete used them when he saw they were going to do something stupid at reds border. This meant Pete just had to wait for them to fck up. He had nothing to worry about from blue because he was in noob corner and playing too passively all game long (never taking Scandi). This would have resulted in a Pete win anyway, it went surprisingly fast because red could not handle being broken a single bonus without losing any troops and then gifting the game to Pete. Bunch of noobs but still entertaining. Mostly entertaining to see how Pete used white to win the game.

[@SirConfectionery]

@nabedane yeah I agree that Pete played correctly but I still don't understand reds play whatsoever, red had a huge stack pointed towards whites 30 cap for ages with more troops in Africa that could reinforce whites cap assuming he takes it. I just find it so odd that they seemed to have such a large troop lead yet weren't involved in the board state whatsoever when they could have massively upgraded their position with that white cap for a relatively cheap price.

[@derpanator5671]

its funny isnt it. advancements in technoloy are already gearing up to cut out human requirements in the work yet there is a massive labour shortage and jobless population. it ties back in to what you were saying about how out current society promotes very few wealthy people at the expense of others. people could get jobs but with such massive inequality, jobs are either shitty corporate ones or small buisnesses that a lot of time cant afford good wages. its really starting to look like fuedal times where a small portion of people are at the top and the rest peasants. Im no economist so if one of you could tell me, what was is about the mid 20th century that made middle class actually the norm and not this hyper polarized wealthy or broke situation?

[@pierroulechou]

Wow best settings

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

I love em too!

[@baumulrich]

controversial opinion time. unless those are gifted to you, typically three caps are too many early on as you can't guard them all, and end up overextended

[@ReadyMillionaire]

I disagree on your point of view on the car. The reason to own something like that is also so that you can choose when and how you travel. In a utopian society where one could inherently trust the powers at be, sure that makes sense. But in reality, if you allow the powers at be to decide when, where or if you can travel at all that can lead to serious consequences. If for some reason you upset the powers at be, they may take the ability for you to move around freely away from you. Your golf club example makes sense, but certain things like movement I don't think trusting the people who hold the power is a smart decision.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

All of the conversation on the design level presupposes aspiration vs pragmatism. If you were able to design the ideal, what would you design?

[@RichardGeresGerbil]

I just don't know how Basic Universal Income won't hyper inflate the economy

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

I figure ubi allows markets to exist for longer than they otherwise would once the vast majority of people have little to no income otherwise

[@RichardGeresGerbil]

@@TheKillPeteStrategy I have been studying the economy for some time and I don't understand the motives of the government and how they manage debt. It seems to be a giant money laundering scheme because few benefit from inflation which seems to be their purpose by spending and printing money they don't have.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

@@RichardGeresGerbil Fractional reserve lending is the root cause of much of inflation. Banks loan out money they don't have at interest, which effectively creates money out of nothing. So it's not only the govt but also for-profit banks that are working this massive money laundering scheme.

[@RichardGeresGerbil]

@@TheKillPeteStrategy I'm well aware

[@peardbear4688]

No you don't give the Iraq cap to white, you use orient to trade 😊

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

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[@EcoInstant]

I think you say demur in a funny way.

[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

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[@steeziee5235]

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[@TheKillPeteStrategy]

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