What Lies Beneath Winterfell? PART 2 (Game of Thrones) Theory

[@TheFamof5]

Yes!!! What's in the crypts? Always wondered why Rickon came out of a dark cave..just to walk back in..no torch, no candle...just Shaggy Dog

[@TheFamof5]

+Rafiduzzaman Sonnet he ( who) was preparing who's tomb?

[@TheFamof5]

+Rafiduzzaman Sonnet 😂 That's was "Cold blooded" ☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺☺

[@solangesimondsen]

This could work and it would be cool, but I think to prove that he isn't a bastard, Samwell Tarly will find a marriage transcription by a maester somewhere in the Citadel library that Rhaegar and Lyanna were married in front of a werewood tree in the Northern tradition. So then we will have proof of his parents and proof that he is the rightful heir, too.

[@chops977]

indeed!

[@bessyramirez7375]

I thought The same thing too! Makes total sense

[@chrisklitou7573]

I'm glad he's not a Bastard but I'm sad that he's a Targaryen because I wanted him to marry Daenerys and they become King and Queen with Tyrion hand of the King, Grey Worm Head of the Kings guard,Sansa lord of winter fell, I hoped it will end like this

[@jamescthompson4972]

that is the lamest disney ending imaginable ..im very glad this will not happen

[@solangesimondsen]

Chris Klitou I think that all those pieces will be in place to make us think of this happy ending, but it won't be the ending they give us. :)

[@hazyhalfmoon]

Ned promised the next time he talked to Jon he would talk about his mother. Maybe Ned and Jon communicate in the crypt.

[@ContagiousOutcast]

Ned is dead though

[@vbywrde]

I had the same thought. I wouldn't be surprised if Jon has a dream/vision of Ned in the Crypt.

[@hazyhalfmoon]

Ashley Horton Aye, Ned is dead but Old Nan often told tales about ghosts of the Stark ancestors walking in the crypts. If Nan was right about the Rat King, maybe she was right about this too.

[@ChuckNorris-gk9uo]

nah this is not the got d&d way of telling us a story

[@olchs17]

Maybe making a tomb with encryption of Jons true identity is Ned's way of 'talking' about his mother 'next time they meet' (in the crypts)

[@MattMusky]

I have a theory, Gendry got lost rowing his boat and found a cave that led him to the hot springs underneath Winterfell, the path he came from was caved in and he is stuck there, waiting for help. Lucky for him there was an abundant amount of fish for him to eat and wood to start a cooking fire with. Gendry has been keeping up a tough training regimen to prepare himself to face whoever finds him if they try to kill him. He is in peak physical condition and has become much wiser over the months he's been trapped there. The thought of Arya is what keeps him going on.

[@kalown2275]

Yesss...This!!!!

[@CruizINcognito]

Holy sh*t this a pretty good theory

[@jpm5965]

THis make zero sense Winterfell is surrounded by land that is far from Gendrys starting point. Their is not a single piece of anything that can back this theory up.

[@twowheelunicycle8603]

Can you remind me where gendry got lost and how? This totally slipped my game of thrones mind

[@thekiso9818]

melisandre was gonna fuck gendry up so davos put him on a little boat and gendry started rowing away. emphasis on away.

[@edwardClitterhands]

Wow what luck I discovered your channel today and also watched part one today too lol.

[@naserharun3742]

me too

[@Zyme86]

Diddo

[@jocollantes4258]

the theory that there is already a prepared tomb for jon by ned's instructions (revealing his true parentage) is plausible for the show.. there's this scene (can't remember what season/episode) when lady catelyn was talking w/ talisa (rob's wife) while weaving an emblem of the seven gods.. telling her that she believes in the power of gods to save life because she'd done the same before for jon as a child when he was sick & maester luwin pronounced that the boy would not make it thru the night... bec of jealousy she'd been praying to be rid of jon prior to his sickness & felt guilty so she watched over him thru the night while weaving the emblem then come morning jon was already well. maybe ned also believed jon wouldn't pull through that time so he made those preparations. I cant remember if the books had talked about that part of jon's childhood though.

[@lanamusic2240]

talisa?? you mean cercei

[@alexj4184]

Talisa was Robb's wife in the show

[@stevesctr2926]

But Ned would have to be the one to engrave the Tomb.  Could he trust a someone else to engrave the parentage?

[@jocollantes4258]

yeah maybe that's why bran saw ned in the crypts crying in his dream. if this theory should prove true in the show.. I hope Jon finds out about it while with davos or sansa.. not with littlefinger... or what if littlefinger finds out about it first?? or worst..he knows about it already. .that's why he's trying to win over sansa to his side (then make sansa kick Jon out of winterfell maybe?)

[@MrBleedforme]

Tyrion mentions in season two that stonemasons typically can't read - "He was a well-read stonemason? Can't say I've ever met a literate stonemason!" Which could mean that the mason that Ned employ to engrave the tomb doesn't know what hes engraving.

[@Zyme86]

And the one who carved it would never known what it wrote: Tywen to Arya: I've never met a literate mason.

[@Tugela60]

Masons who inscribe stone are literate. They have to be to avoid making mistakes. Most masons just dress stone however, and you dont need to be literate for that.

[@phteve1900]

I think most of us assumed Ned made it since even noblemen of Winterfell were studied in metallurgy and some smithing. Not as aristocratically as,say the Lannisters.

[@Tugela60]

I think a tomb is improbable. For a start, the prepared tombs were just cavities, they had no inscriptions. Secondly, while not many people went down to the crypts, some would have (the children played down there for example), and there would have been a risk that the truth would come out. Lastly, the suggestion that it was deeper down, covered by a cavein does not make sense. If no one knew it was there, and it was that well hidden, then it would never be used. It would make far more sense for it simply to say Jon Snow.

[@annalwhore]

"Have you met many mason's my lord?"

[@rebzkun5600]

"Milord."

[@IBMikmaq]

If Ned did prepare a tomb for Jon I don't think it would say Jon snow I think it will say Jon Targaryen

[@Sebastian-iv3qo]

If Lyanna and rhaegar were married, then yes. It would probably say something like that. But if they weren't, it would still be Jon Snow

[@rileyjevs]

+729Drew but he was born in the tower of joy, which is in dorne. Therefore he would be Jon sand.

[@Traquan]

+IBMikmaq - I bet it would say Aegon Targaryen, son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark

[@cobra7282]

Exactly. If it was about where the child was born I don't believe he would be a Snow to begin with.

[@markusander1595]

+729Drew Bastard surnames are dependent on the region a child was born in, i.e. where the mother is from, not where the father is from. For example, a noble lord from the Stormlands could father one bastard child in the Vale, and another in the Riverlands, but neither would use the surname "Storm": the first bastard would use the surname "Stone", and the second would use the surname "Rivers."

[@tayyabahanif2171]

I've seen a lot of people complain about Dany being fire proof. Have you ever realised when she does come out from fire she usually kills someone or people in the fire. Like she killed the witch the first time and the latest she killed the khals, a life for a life.

[@salvadorarreolarodriguez6165]

omg...

[@abbesatty9498]

+Tayyaba Hanif Also in the HoU when she killed Pyat Pree. However there are 2 little incidents when fire/heat did not bother her ( _hot bathing pool & glowing dragon's eggs_ ).

[@TXRhody]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Drago, the baby, and the magi were in the fire, which correspond to the three dragons' eggs hatching.

[@Jasmine_U_B]

Tayyaba Hanif this comment is late lol but how would that explain her picking up the dragon eggs from the coals and her not being burnt. and how would that explain her being able to even touch the oil burner in the temple before burning the khals.

[@tylermccail157]

It would be cool for Jon to discover his parentage that way, but I have two problems with it. 1st, for that to be the case, Ned Stark would have had to risk blowing his big secret, by engraving the names of Jon's true parents on his tomb. Why would he go to such lengths to protect Jon's identity, and risk it on someone stumbling upon it by wandering deep into the crypts? 2nd, it would make Bran's discovery, meaningless. I'm pretty sure Bran will tell Jon, or perhaps show him somehow if he has the power to do that.

[@brightroar6147]

Exactly what I was thinking dude

[@phryne5172]

Yeah, it would be a cold way to discover your true parents from names on a crypt. Poor Jon would be shocked and with no chance to ask questions. I hope Bran tells him, especially since Jon often wondered about his mother. This way, Bran can explain how much his mother cared for him and maybe include that he was actually a cherished child, enough so that she exacts a vow of protection from her bother Ned.

[@abbesatty9498]

+Tyler McCail Maybe this secret is encrypted with additional Rosetta Stones or hints that only Jon can uncover. providing that Howland Reed maybe dead and Ned had not taken life for granted.

[@chasemerritt1944]

Only Starks and the stonemasons that carve the statues over the graves are allowed in the crypts I believe

[@brightroar6147]

That wouldn't have stopped Ramsey if he had wanted to or anyone else that would take over Winterfell, Robert Baratheon also stormed through and he's not a Stark. Chase Merritt

[@MrColuber]

I have the stupidest ideas. I keep imagining that Bran uses his wharging powers to travel to the past, and inadvertently, he whargs into a dragon egg (within which, in my mind's eye, a four legged dragon, with a head similar to a wolf - a mutant). He spends a lifetime within that dragon and forms a bond with a young girl called Adara (see what I did there?) just in time to fight the White Walkers for the first time. They are victorious, Adara founds the Stark line and Bran finds a way to wharg out of the dragon. Of course, he decided to put the dragon into hibernation for future use, and Winterfell is built on top of him. He whargs back into himself, having aged without having aged (I know, time travel is confusing) and he rejoins Jon and gets his dragon back out of the ground to face the Night's King. Can anyone top that?

[@pravinda333]

Hibernation? Is the dragon made of Windows?

[@MrColuber]

Which version?

[@maddi1712]

+MrColuber 3.2

[@willg_3847]

so grrm has always said he disapproves of the classic good vs evil and stuff which is y every battle basically isn't just that they have political aspects, my theory is that because the others have like lives and culture they arent just ice zombies those are the soldiers of them the wights, i also believe the land of always winter is just the other side of the world, i think esos and westeros are connected and thats the very far right thats the grey waste connects to the land of always winter and that side of the world is just the other side of the world and each side is just opposites of each other, my theory though is that when winter has come which it has, thats the world just turning its polarity around and the cold side of the world just gets put in the sun and everything in the white walkers world starts melting and being destroyed so when winter comes they are just trying to stay alive cause they cant live in harmony with the men it just doesnt work, so i think cersei will be killed by jaime and then the baratheons and the lannisters are all gone now so all thats left is the starks and the targs for the throne and then once that is situated bran comes back after finding out that the others have a language and a culture and just frozen life sam will learn about the sun and grey waste and those two will come together form a plan to create some sort of agreement with them then they have bran go to them and try to figure everything out, so then bran advises the king or queen and that is what the battle for the dawn is, both sides of life trying to maintain that way of life without everything going to shit, my idea is that the battle for the dawn is just a metaphor for the sides of the spectrum just trying to survive in atleast harmony with each other but greed and fear lead to an actual fight which just leaves everybody dead.

[@maru_chan90]

I like your theories and how well you always underline them with hints from the books. Very well done, keep it up!

[@zeitgeistician1737]

Ned Stark carries a secret for 14 years despite being racked with guilt without so much as a murmur to ease the trepidation and hostility of his wife while at the same time decides to make a full declaration of this same information by engraving it ---(presumably himself unless he felt comfortable with the notion "Howland Reed, me, and my trusty stonemason--- but that's as far as it goes." )--- into a block of stone which he then proceeded to place in an odd corner well within the exploratory purview of a household of five children and indiscriminately accessible to the point that Jon Snow is able to just stumble across it on aimless walkabout through the crypts. Genius.

[@abbesatty9498]

+Zeit Geistician Even though he could have used stone mason, I doubt it will be clear and easy to uncover engraving, that even stone mason could not figure it himself without using other hints. maybe these hints are plotted in a way only Jon can figure out.

[@lujoja8226]

*My guess is that Lightbringer will be down there in the crypts (or he'll find some passage to the furnace of the world that is underneath Wintefell, and turn Longclaw into Lightbringer in its fires).* *1) Why would Lightbringer (or the source to create it) be under Winterfell?* Could it be that the Last Hero, the legendary First Men hero who defeated the Others, was the same person as Azor Ahai? Could it be that it was the furnace of the world under Winterfell was the fire where his sword was created? Could it be that Winterfell is named such because it is where the winter (the Long Night) fell/ended - where the Last Hero defeated the Others and drove them back to the Land of Always Winter? Is it possible that the Last Hero was Bran the Builder (or perhaps one of his ancestors; be that his father, or grandfather, or a more distant ancestor). The words of House Stark are "Winter is coming" - it is a warning that the Starks have passed on to each generation intended as a reminder that the Others were not defeated completely, but only driven back to the Lands of Always Winter, warning of another Long Night in the future. If Bran, the founder of House Stark, was the Last Hero who drove back the Others, it would make sense that he would pass on the warning to the future; and that he'd build the wall as a defence against them for when they return. It could be that he stored the sword (Lightbringer) in the crypts, or in furnace of the world, underneath Winterfell. *2) I would argue Jon is having dreams to go into the crypts and deep under Winterfell (to find/create Lightbringer) because he is the real Azor Ahai reborn/Prince that was Promised.* _According to the prophecy, as recounted by Melisandre, these are the indicators of the coming of Azor Ahai:_ *-* After a long summer, when the stars bleed and the cold breath of darkness falls heavy on the world *-* He shall be born again amidst smoke and salt *-* He shall wake dragons out of stone *-* He shall draw from the fire a burning sword, Lightbringer _If Azor Ahai is the same as the prince that was promised:_ *-* His is the song of ice and fire (according to Rhaegar) *-* He is born of the line of Aerys II and Rhaella (according to the woods witch) *-* He will triumph over darkness will bring a summer that will never end *-* Death itself will bend its knee. _Now, think about this:_ *-* Jon's father is Rhaegar. Jon satisfies that prerequisite as he would be the grandson of Aerys and Rhaella, and thus come from their line. *-* The phrase "song of ice and fire" could relate to the Pact of Ice and Fire. It was an agreement made between Prince Jacaerys Velaryon and Lord Cregan Stark during the Dance of the Dragons civil war, that a royal princess should marry into House Stark in exchange for their support of the blacks, but it was never fulfilled. Therefore, the "song of ice and fire" could be relating to the union of House Stark and House Targaryen. Given that Jon's father was Rhaegar Targaryen, and his mother was Lyanna Stark, Jon is the embodiment of the union between the two houses, and thus fulfils this prerequisite. *-* In the books, Jon's wounds smoke while Bowen Marsh cries (tears = salt), providing the prophecised smoke and salt; and Ser Patrek's bloody, star laden heraldry is in the air above which explains the bleeding star (also in the TV show adaptation, who's showrunners' know from GRRM himself who Azor Ahai is, revealed in Season 6 Episode 10, not only that R+L=J is confirmed but also that Jon was born under a bleeding star. You see, Ned enters the Tower with a bloodied Dawn, the ancestral sword of House Dayne which was forged from a fallen star, therefore ensuring that in accordance with the prophecy Jon was born "when stars bleed"). Furthermore, obviously we know it is the end of a long summer (it is asked of the younger characters if they even remember the last winter, implying this summer has been a long one); we also know that the "cold breath of darkness" is the forthcoming winter/"Second Long Night". This all satisfies these parts of the prophecy. *-* Jon Snow has a dream where he fights the Others with a red sword burning in his hand. This foreshadows Jon retrieving Lightbringer. This is why I believe he will find/recreate Lightbringer. satisfying that prerequisite. Also of note, Jon chose his duty to the Night's Watch over his love for Ygritte. He indirectly caused her death by warning Castle Black of the incoming wildling raid. Similar to Azor Ahai sacrificing Nissa Nissa to complete Lightbringer. *-* Jon Snow is resurrected from the dead - death bent its knee. This fulfils this part of the prophecy. *-* Obviously, by defeating the Others once and for all, Azor Ahai reborn/the Prince that was Promised will usher in an age of eternal summer. He will finish what the Last Hero started when he drove the Others back. Given the potential link between House Stark and the Last Hero I discussed earlier, it makes sense for it to be Jon to head the age-old Stark warning that "Winter is coming", and to win the next Battle for the Dawn. _Further evidence is that:_ When Melisandre looks into her fires for Azor Ahai, she sees only things to do with Jon or snow, which he thinks must just be ash but she sees a possible connection to Jon. _However:_ Admittedly, there is a flaw in this theory regarding the "He shall wake dragons out of stone". We know that Daenerys is the one who hatched the dragons from petrified ("stone") dragon eggs. However, it is suggested that the dragon Vermax left a clutch of eggs somewhere in the depths of Winterfell’s crypts. These eggs could also be down there, and Jon might hatch one/some to fulfil this prerequisite; and thus also discover that he has the Dragon Blood. Additionally, there could also already be dragons down there, or these eggs may have already hatched and these dragons could be living in the furnace of the world beneath Wintefell just as the dragons did in the Fourteen Flames of Valyria, and Jon could tame one. However, perhaps this part of the prophecy is misinterpreted (there are afterall different versions). Perhaps actually it is one of the other heads of the dragon (eg. Daenerys) who is supposed to hatch the dragons, as the heads of the dragon are supposed to show the Prince the the path. Jon could then tame and ride Rhaegal, perhaps?

[@SkeletalRemains2]

Thank you for keeping GoT going even after the finale!! I can't seem to get enough of it with all this theory lol

[@kylewitcher9670]

They woudn't put "Rhaegar and Lyanna's son" on the tomb. Ned didn't even trust Cat with the truth of Jon.

[@Tugela60]

But he apparently trusts everyone else. Just not Cat.

[@chasemerritt1944]

Ned himself could have chiseled a few words you only need a stonemason to carve a statue's face into a likeness

[@ismu34]

Howland Reed might be alive still, he may know the secret

[@Tugela60]

+Jovon Gipson Right. Some kid tripping out on funny herbs is "proof", whereas a lord who was actually there is not credible? Why would be need to send his kids to help Bran become the three eyed raven so he could have visions about what happened, when it would be orders of magitude simpler for Howland to simply SAY what he witnessed? I don't get why people are trying to make something that is very simple to instead require way way more complicated and convoluted plots to achieve.

[@ismu34]

From what I know, in the book Howland sent them north to help the Starks

[@astrozombie8188]

this is pretty much what I was expecting to see next season. nice intro. I like this one; its simple and quick.

[@angelwhispers2060]

I think that would be the easy way out and it sounds like something D&D would do. Showing that Ned was truly Honorable. Just not in the way everyone thought. This solid evidence would be easy to show to the other Northern Lords and, having been built either on Ned's Orders or by his own hand would be proof enough for them.

[@infinityfive0]

and then he finds three frost drake eggs... gg

[@vispatech]

Please NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! We have enough Drake's in the world.

[@CirquedJoy]

But Jon started from the bottom, now he here.

[@PaddyPower_IRL]

It wont be 3 eggs it will be just one. It was said that frost drakes were x3 times larger than fire drakes so 1=3

[@FlyingTeacup]

Being a noble bastard to house Stark, and growing up with the true Starks in Winterfell, is starting at the bottom?

[@CirquedJoy]

+Frankie Lynch most people in ASOIAF generally don't respect bastards, and Jon was no exception to that growing up in Winterfell, despite how Ned treated him he was still routinely reminded that of what he was. That's what I mean by bottom. Now he is the most respected man in the North.

[@randellgoering3425]

what if its a rusted 1966 chevy down in the crypts? revealing that GoT is set in a post apocalyptic earth

[@BlueberryBumblebees]

The way the seasons go, many speculate that it's a planet around a binary star system. With George's love for sci-fi...

[@in_vas_por8810]

lololol

[@chasemerritt1944]

Got is already confirmed to be set in the "thousand worlds" universe Grrm has written in before. Look up the pale child of bakkylon

[@ShadeoftheEvening]

Am so glad I checked u out. U do a great job and it's great to have your videos during this time when we're waiting on the new book. The information u talk about is awesome. I've read the books way more than once and miss so much. Thanks!

[@anja1627]

I like how you present your theories for you don't sound cocky or whiny. :) You also base your theories on the books and not purely on your imagination.

[@bartsteinhauser8452]

Meera Reed might know who John is - her father Howland Reed was Neds friend and the man who stabbed Arthur Dayne in the back at the Tower of Joy. He is probably the only man alive who does know the truth, he may have told his children.

[@zeitgeistician1737]

Ned didn't tell his wife but Howland told his children? And even though Jon showed just in time to prevent Meera from being gangraped at Craster's and that she and Bran have been traveling for months on end and sitting in a cave in a frozen wasteland for months beyond that she never once thought to mention "Oh by the way did you know that Jon is actually not your brother -- he's your cousin and heir to the Targaryen throne?

[@bartsteinhauser8452]

well in the books that didnt happen. Not sure we can use inconsistencies in the TV show to prove any theories - not sure there ARE any consistent theories anymore in the show its gotten so mixed up...compare your objection to Ser Davos apparently never asking or hearing about the death of Shereen for MONTHS while living at the wall with Melisandre

[@zeitgeistician1737]

Well you're certainly right about the show's gaping disregard for logical consistency. But clearly if Ned didn't even tell his wife and yet Howland informed his children then he's a pretty crap friend because children are not normally considered reliable actors when it comes to sensitive information. However in my mind, if it were to prove true that Meera does know -- it might be Jojen who could have told Meera without Howland wittingly being involved although I wouldn't know the limitations of Jojen's abilities to acquire that info.

[@mildredmarshall4460]

that would be so awesome....I love your videos BTW

[@plutohasfleas]

It's aliens. There's aliens down there.

[@dwally4198]

I'm not saying it's aliens..... but it's aliens

[@g.spacepants319]

Ancient Astronaut theorists say yes.

[@MrGhostsm]

Yesssss alien

[@st0ox]

must be true

[@MrGhostsm]

+Braamok it's a a lot of Ramsey Bolton. There are thosands of ramseys down there

[@Greencurry15]

The best intro I've seen in a while well done mate

[@TheHuggmg]

I could see Bran telling Jon of his lineage, once he meets up with him at Winter fell. However, I could see how Jon would deny this claim, as simply a vision of Bran. With that said, I think Bran would have to have another vision showing the already marked grave and use this as the, "you don't believe me, look in the crypts." This is where Jon could have his nightmare, it clouding his mind, preventing him from sleep and gaining the courage to make his way to the crypts. Yet, these two items would still not be sufficient enough to merit Jon's authentic lineage. This is where Sam comes into play, being at the Citadel and having access to birthing and other rare records, which could potentially provide the authentication of his parentage and birth right.

[@TeaseDiva]

Sounds like a great theory. It would be great if Jon found out who his parents were by seeing their name on the tomb.

[@mikfax]

Thanks to Lindybiege all i think when i see inside castles now is who is lighting all these candles?

[@kasey8568]

I say Lightbringer is in the crypts. After all, the Starks are an ancient house, used to be Kings of Winter (before they were known as Kings of the North), and it was Bran the Builder - the founder of House Stark - that built both the Wall and Winterfell at the end of the Long Night after the last hero (Azor Ahai) fought off the White Walkers. Since the crypts are said to hold every Stark that ever lived (other than ones slain elsewhere whose bodies were never recovered), it's reasonable that Bran's tomb is in there somewhere, too, in the oldest part of the crypts. It's also reasonable to say if Bran wasn't Azor Ahai, himself, that he was at least well-acquainted with Azor Ahai and quite possibly came into the possession of Lightbringer. Since all Starks are buried with their sword laid across their statue, it would be pretty safe to assume Lightbringer, the sword Bran the Builder wielded at the time of his death, would lay at Bran's tomb. Note: It's also possible Bran buried Azor Ahai within the crypts as an honorary Stark. After all, when House Stark was brand new, they wouldn't be quite so caught up in tradition, seeing as there hadn't been any traditions to set. So, Lightbringer could actually be at the tomb of Azor Ahai, rather than Bran's. Either way, it's in the crypts.

[@scarletibis3158]

That sword is down in those crypts. and I think it is the Sword Within the Stone. Lyanna's statue.

[@tresao7080]

Hey really like the new intro music!

[@taranveer99]

Great work man! I wouldn't have minded a few more seasons but 13 episodes? And over 2 years? Damn! Not long enough to cover all the stories/theories

[@Braigwen]

Remember in Season 1, just before they parted ways at the fork in the road, Jon asked Ned one last time about his mother. Ned said that when next they meet, he would tell Jon all about her. Now that Jon has control of Winterfell again, Ned, who's bones are not in the crypt, will have his spirit free to call Jon down to the crypts through his dreams. That is when Jon will learn of who his mother was. Sam, meanwhile, will find proof of Jon's legitimacy in the Library. Since Targaryens took multiple wives often, it wouldn't be out of place for Rhaegar to have done so as well. And then the third piece will come from Bran, who will give Jon his true name. Jeherys Targaryen II.

[@lolablake9196]

Jaehaerys Targaryen III*

[@husher5142]

I am pretty certain that it's Rickon's death that leads them down there. Bran's purpose isnt to tell Jon who he is but what he must do.

[@tonyfidler1669]

This is a great theory! You do incredible work with your videos. Please keep doing them. All the revelations might be required to convince the major players in Westeros that Jon is Targaryen. They might even be needed to convince Jon himself. Bran revealing it, this crypt theory, and Sam finding the birth record would be sufficient to convince all. Problem is the show doesn't have enough time to delve into such a gradual realization of Jon's parentage.

[@dantespimp]

I just realized something, something that could prove Lyanna married Rhaegar without documents or flashbacks. Assuming Lyanna married Rhaegar, she would've had a wedding ring. Names of the spouse are typically engraved in wedding rings, not to mention, Rhaegar seems like the romantic type that would do that. If that's the case, Ned would've had his sister's wedding ring and took it with him to Winterfell. He'd have hidden it away in his personal chambers. We *do* know Jon is moving into Ned's bedroom. We also know Jon is bound to check out the crypt to pay his respects to his recently dead brother, Rickon. So either Jon finds this wedding ring at the crypt (with Lyanna) or at Ned's bed chambers. He'd realize Lyanna married a Targaryen. Then when Bran checks in with Jon, telling him Lyanna was his mother, Jon would realize his father was Rhaegar.

[@M116saetern]

Your way sounds more intriguing then just Bran telling Jon. Plus it's more dramatic. Can't wait to see season 7. Your channel is great by the way.

[@uw7gaming590]

I love this channel thank you for your great video's mate!!

[@booknerdlover3675]

This is the first time I've heard this theory and I love it!

[@TheRobinRedbreast]

I just discovered this channel today too; it's awesome.

[@davidpascoe6703]

Very interesting! I enjoy your videos very much

[@76gigglebox]

i think this is the best theory ive heard out of all the others

[@bladegtr34]

Would love the dragon theory to be true, but since they have never mentioned it in the T.V. series I doubt they will start now since they are close to the end of the series. Wouldn't mind if Jon finds out his true blood line down there by a combination of things like Howland Reed, Bran Stark, and the crypt.

[@aggiei6449]

I really enjoy your videos!

[@leicotter9915]

I seriously think you would be a great director, because these theories are so good

[@uglysweaterful2119]

Honestly I just assumed we'd get to see fireproof Jon at some point. If he finds a crypt, or even if Bran tells him, the story doesn't go anywhere. He's not going to pursue the throne. The revelation is probably going to hold more significance to other people, he just wants to know. So it seems more likely that he crosses paths with . . . Daenerys or some other major player and then they react to it with/for him.

[@marcdenham7607]

hi, another great video. i have a request, when you say there is evidence in the books for something could you give a brief rundown of it? i have, and probably will never read the books, but it would be cool to know what they say on whatever topic you are discussing.

[@rjlp1986]

Not sure I can buy into Jon finding out on his own. It would defeat the purpose of building up to Bran witnessing the TOJ, though I could envisage Howland Reed getting word of what had happened re JS being named KITN, and making his way to Winterfell to offer fealty and finally give him the information himself, either to be reaffirmed by Bran or visa versa.

[@Mcd00b420]

an armory of Valyrian steel is beneath winterfell!!!

[@5playmaker]

You are very interesting. Keep up the good work.

[@CrescentoAngelo]

This is awesome. Subscribed.

[@2angies19]

I would love for it to play out as follows: Jon and Sansa at odds. bran not able to get to Jon quick enough to prevent a possible betrayal by Sansa. Bran starts sending Jon message dreams telling him to go to the crypts, Jon is fearful, but shares with Tormund and Davos after several sleeping and waking dreams. Jon reveals he's feared the crypts since childhood (with a nervous chuckle). Things get really tense with Sansa, fearing for Jon; and Bran's dreams coming more frequently, fast-furious, Jon goes to the crypts with his mates at his side. Jon FINALLY goes down, gets the truth, glimmer of the Targaryian eye color in his eye... cut to Bran reaching the Winterfell gates as Sansa struggles with whether or not to betray Jon for Littlefinger. Littlefinger now thinks he can enact another plan using Bran and keep his original plan secret. Bran seeks out Jon, pissing Sansa off making her feel slighted again. As Jon emerges from the crpyts, Bran and Sansa spot him, Davos, and Tormund... Littlefinger not far behind, talks of the True Lord of Winterfell- spots Jon. Jon and Bran share a knowing look, Bran greets him: You are the True heir. Everyone thinks bran is talking about Winterfell until everyone notices, and the camera zooms in on Jon's eyes. credits roll.

[@lolablake9196]

2angies19 man that would be epic but it's so unlikely that Jon's eyes would change colour.

[@777Bwild777]

Excellent theory would love to see it

[@tobiasmiddelkoop7431]

The Dragon awaiting in the crypts is metaphorical for discovery of Jon's heritage. He is discovering his true heritage as a targaryen as soon as he walks down there and then metaphorically turns from Wolf (Stark) to dragon (targaryen). I think the one who leads him there will be Howland Reed, who is going to join Jon's allies in Winterfell.

[@debracecchi]

That's a Great theory would love to see that happen.

[@user-oy3wh9mj5z]

I really want to believe this theory because it'd make for a great scene, but wouldn't Ned have wanted to put Jon's real name on the tomb? If he's already taking a massive risk by inscribing his true parentage into a stone, would he really let his beloved Nephew lie under a false name? Also I feel that if Ned intended for Jon to eventually find out who his real parents are, he would have chosen a different way to let him know. In my opinion, there's just too many variables with this - what if Jon had died after Ned and nobody ever found the tomb to bury him in? What if someone had discovered it while Jon was still in danger from Robert? That said, maybe he DID build a tomb for someone with a Targaryen name, son of Lyanna and Raegar. It would still be risky, but since he did such a great job of presenting Jon as his bastard (and since Jon thankfully looks more Stark than Targaryen), maybe he would be able to explain this away and nobody would put two and two together. Or better yet, have the tomb sealed so that if anyone asks he can tell them that Lyanna gave birth to a child who died, and that he secretly buried it in Winterfell out of respect for her. Then there's the possibility of leaving some kind of message for Jon in the tomb itself. This means that if Bran comes down from the North with the news of Jon's parentage, they'll be able to extract some physical proof to prove his claim.

[@g.spacepants319]

Please continue investigating into this theory. I like it.

[@BlismBlah]

Great way to reveal Jon's true bloodline and to neatly explain why Jon had to grow up the way he did. Would be amazing to see this happen in the show.

[@joycestone5292]

Yeah, I like that theory. Ned had intended to tell Jon who his mother was when he returned from King's Landing...and we know how well that turned out. I always knew Jon was more. I never thought Ned Stark would have a child who was not Katlin's. I believe she survived the Red Wedding, and I would love to see her dining on crow while bowing to Jon.

[@CALISUPERSPORT]

i have a huge fascination with these crypts now, didn't know they were such a huge party of the story

[@squamish4244]

I had forgotten that Bran and Rickon both have a dream about the crypts in Season 1. Huh.

[@2ndRatePetronius]

I'm into this theory.

[@marthacmd]

yes...... maybe it will happen in season 8..... after all Bran and (can't spell the name) had a dream that their father is in the Crypts.... why would the writers leave this scene incomplete or left out (2:46) ??

[@Bryan4Hillary]

I like this theory, and the theory of Sam finding some proof of marriage for Rhaegar and Lyanna. Or the ones about Jon finding something in the crypt- a wedding dress of Lyanna's, Rhaegar's harp that helps him confirm Who he is.

[@darrinmagnus1]

OUR beloved Jon, the recently proclaimed King of the North, is not only a Stark, but an actual Targaryen prince?! What a revelation. One wonders if he is as impervious to flame as Daenerys is. Will her dragons recognize him as being one of their own?

[@dylanbradshaw8489]

He burns his hand on a lantern he throws at a wight in season 1

[@Minecrafanatic123]

+Dylan Bradshaw season 2

[@Toscalily]

I like this theory a lot, but I just cant see good ol' practical Ned ever taking that risk, no matter how much he might want Jon in the crypts with the rest of the Starks when the time comes, I cant see him risking anyone stumbling upon it blocked off or not that's a HUGE risk. And I'm guessing that Ned was expecting Jon to out live him and Howland, so then who was meant to put Jon in that crypt when he dies if no living soul knew about the crypt and if he did hide it well enough to to be found by the many crypt visitors over the years then how did Ned ever expect anyone to find it without being told? It's just all round to risky and the likelihood that Jon would end up in that crypt would be minuscule, but hell yeah that would be a cool way for Jon to discover his parentage

[@thislldo2326]

If his real name isn't Jon and on the tomb it is written with and his surname as Targeain, some interesting things could happen: Jon will see a tomb of a Targeian in the winterfell crypts, being curious, he will ask Dany, Tyrion, Davos, and maybe Sansa to come and look at the tomb (I believe Dany and Tryion will be in winterfell forming an alliance) . Most of them assume that Lyanna and Reagar must have had a son who died in infancy but, as they are walking away, Tyrion turns back and opens the tomb lifting off the stone revealing it to be empty. The Targeian is alive. They are comfused for a second before it suddenly clicks, and everyone stares at Jon, they know who he is: Lyanna's and Reagars son. While they try to keep it secret, Littlefinger hears of this and tries to take advantage of the situation by starting a rumour of Jon's true parentage. When they hear of this some people are outraged but many think Jon should try and take the Iron throne. However, Jon, not being Ned's son doesn't think he's even worthy of being "King of the north". Dany isn't happy, Jon has a stronger claim than she does and might get in the way of her becoming king. The doubt begins to cloud her mind and she turns against Jon, wanting the Iron throne for herself. Many people believe that Dany will end up as the villain and I think this is a possible way it could happen.

[@dijkstra4698]

That theory is amazing

[@gumersindocebollero3261]

GRRM's dragons don't have 4 legs.

[@lorddbiggles1927]

Well that would make them a wyvern.

[@gumersindocebollero3261]

He wanted them to be realistic, and since no real flying animal has four legs he made them like that.

[@Palladum12]

+Marcus Taylor in GoT dragons look like wyverns.

[@TheThoerlChannel]

Not necessarily. There is no true definition. Dragons are understood to have four legs, but they also can have 2. Some are then called Wyverns. Some are not. They have always been stories, so... mostly up to the author

[@Palladum12]

+TheThoerlChannel or you know people can make their own mythology in their own books and have two legged dragons if they wanna

[@claudiagurr264]

Yes, this theory is amazing!

[@MimsyMcEwan]

Theory is much more plausible than other theories such as finding his heritage through Rhaegar's harp...

[@timkelley2555]

You have raised amazing possibilities which I hope are revealed to be true in season 7 or 8.

[@wisdomknight5610]

so much more eery than just having Bran tell him

[@manicoquita]

this is a good one too! i subscribed!

[@krislaird149]

I love this theory. it would be a great way for Jon to find out about his true lineage.

[@sfry005]

I like the theory of Jon having a crypt below Winterfell, but I can't help but think Ned's remains will be the catalyst that reveals Jon's parentage. My theory is with Winterfell back under Stark control, Walder Frey dead, and little finger declaring for the Starks Ned's remains will finally be able to make it back to Winterfell. Sansa and Jon will have a ceremony and place them in the crypt, but once the crypt is open will find a sealed letter from Ned addressed to Jon, placed there in the event he died before being able to tell Jon himself. This letter will detail the story of his birth, his name, and if he is a bastard or not. The crypt may also contain Dawn, since it's current location is a mystery in both the books and the show. This would work quite nicely with my favorite Dawn theory which is that the sword is actually Light Bringer, and will then be passed to Jon Snow who is the prince who was promised.

[@ThePrevo02]

Hard to believe there are only 20k subscribers to this channel

[@MyLateralThawts]

Deep in the crypt, in another walled off section, Jon encounters an ancient tomb to no other than Azor Ahai. The statue still holds Lightbringer which Jon promptly claims.

[@kalex3918]

The thing about Jon, Having This Nightmare, May Not Be True! Because there are nothing left in the book! HBO can now continue with they own story!

[@bthompson1010]

Are there actually Stone Dragons in the Game of thrones. In Danys visions in the temple she sees "from a smoking tower, a great stone beast took wing, breathing shadow fire" My thought is when Winterfell when it is burnt down. You then have Bran who had a dream from his wolves eyes summer who sees "The smoke and ash clouded his eyes, and in the sky he saw a great winged snake whose roar was a river of flame. He bared his teeth, but then the snake was gone. Behind the cliffs tall fires were eating up the stars... I know a lot of people will say this is a metaphor for John possibly being reborn but part of me thinks this may actually be a stone dragon. The part of shadow fire is interesting as well as it could mean the much anticipated Ice dragon but doesn't quite match up to Summers who saw a river of flame. Thus I like the Stone Dragon theory possibly who guarded or was held captive by magic on the walls of Winterfell in the form of a Gargoyle and was released during the fire. Thoughts ????

[@quewillbewillbe]

Nah, you would have to assume that Jon has never been down there and explored, but Jon and Rob used to play down there as kids. One time Jon put flour all over himself to look like a ghost to try to scare Arya and Sansa. Only Sansa was scared, but the point is that Jon had no fear down there in the dark and you can assume that him and Rob saw all there was to see down there. Bran even knew all the history of the different statues in the show when he took Osha down there, so the Stark kids have toured it plenty of times I'm sure. If there was a passage blocked by rubble, I'm sure the Lords of Winterfell had the resources to fix their most sacred site. Or if they didn't it would be prime exploring for young boys. It would have been for me as a kid.

[@deanmiah4186]

Good theory, it would be an amazing twist

[@kristenisbored766]

To be buried in the Crypts, the people carrying Jon's body would have to know, and the people who built it in the first place... and Ned didn't even tell his wife...

[@elsiedaniels5942]

love the music

[@keithcroteau7631]

Who would have crafted the tomb? Wouldn't that mean that Ned told someone? I can't see it.

[@NateRobbins]

Hello Writers need to watch this.

[@MasterGagnon]

ya, thats a pretty cool theory. I hope that comes true. plus, then its way easier to prove his lineage rather than having a random little boy and brother of his say "jon is reagar and lyannas son"

[@nonemo138]

Ned can't very well prepare a grave for Jon and then hide it where nobody will find it. That defeats its purpose. Unless he expected to come back and talk with Jon about it all later. But in that case, why would he prepare a grave beforehand? Theory doesn't check out.

[@XV88tau94]

Omg that would be the best. Then bran stops by and tells him too, confirming his lineage described by the tomb.

[@firebird1454]

Hi, I just found your channel and I love it! It would be pretty cool if he found his own statue, but I think Sam will find Jon's birth recorded in the Citadel we now know that there were more people that knew of his birth, there was 2 other people in the room with Ned and Lyanna. I find it a bit strange that they didn't show the other woman. And Sam's arrival at the citadel had to be significant to Jon's story.

[@zeeah4088]

Maybe Lyana's statue holds a secret?

[@TheAnomalyPod]

This is awesome!

[@gohanson27]

Damn that would be cool if he found out that way. I prefer for him to see himself rather than being told by Bran

[@professorwhy]

Maybe he goes into the crypts to bury Ned when his bones finally do arrive. Ned did say they'd talk about Jon's mother next time they met.

[@rfteizen]

Hey! What can warm winterfell? I remember some point of the book, Maester Aemon asking Sam about the sword Stannis was carrying. Aemon asked something about the color and another thing about heat. And if its the Azor Ahai Sword under the castle?

[@heero75]

Kind of surprised you didn't bring up the idea that their is an ice dragon or even the Night's Queen down there. I read theories saying that the cold pool in front of the Weir wood tree contains them.

[@mary-katebarrett6203]

Amazing theory I can imagine that happening on the show

[@windonthevalley]

I'm so glad I watched part 1&2, awesome point of view! I like! I'm a big fan, love the show, plan on reading & listening to the books, this summer/fall. I noticed in comments, no one mentioned the possibility of "wily coyote"--Petyr Baelish, and how he could mess-up the situation, telling Jon who his parents are, or any other such bs! hmm...