Honda e:Ny1 EV Review. Why this new Honda E electric sequel is the wrong car at the wrong time

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@petesplaneta9340
@petesplaneta9340 10 ай бұрын
Great real world assessment of this vehicle and the video was way less boring than the car is. No one should by this car and when they don’t Honda will just conclude that no one is interested and they’ll keep pushing out their ICE vehicles. It’s a real shame as many non enthusiast drivers do stick with the same manufacturer more and this will convince their many loyal customers to delay their transition. Would definitely buy anything else instead of this! BYD Atto 3 or Volvo V30 instead.
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the message. To be clear Jonny reckons this isn't the worst EV in class. That is reserved for the Mazda MX30, which is 'too shit, style over substance and low range to bother reviewing'. Says an angry JS.
@Flackon16
@Flackon16 10 ай бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShowis the Honda e:NY1 second worst, though?
@garrycroft4215
@garrycroft4215 10 ай бұрын
@@Flackon16yes it’s claimed second spot off the Toyota bZ4x. Mazda MX30 is still king rat.
@olliewebbuk
@olliewebbuk 10 ай бұрын
@@garrycroft4215 Seems most of the Japanese manufacturers have been caught napping with EVs and now they're scrambling with half-arse efforts.
@garrycroft4215
@garrycroft4215 10 ай бұрын
@@olliewebbuk the Mazda MX30 & Toyota bZ4x I really thought that they had purposely made crap cars just to say “I told you no one wants electric cars “
@Reddsoldier
@Reddsoldier 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, how Honda didn't see the MASSIVE success of the Ioniq 5 and just make a scaled up E with all the character, but more range is beyond me.
@baronvonlimbourgh1716
@baronvonlimbourgh1716 10 ай бұрын
Might be in the works still. I think this car is more designed for the usa market for some reason and will have come from their american design teams. It just looks very american for some reason. Honda e was clearly an effort from honda japan itself. We shall see.
@daycoder
@daycoder 10 ай бұрын
Scaling up an e would be like fiat doing the 500x. Trying to repeat success without understanding it. An Element though. That’d be interesting.
@dickturpin3115
@dickturpin3115 10 ай бұрын
Massive success? Nobody buys them. Look at the discounts on the new ones
@rokko_fable
@rokko_fable 10 ай бұрын
That's the only decent thing Hyundai have made. they have zero consistency and their designs are all over the place. I saw some disgusting vehicle the other day with countless creases and angles and points that looked like an 8 yr old designed it.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 10 ай бұрын
I don't think Honda making an EV to rival Hyundai is as easy as you say. Honda are a *long* way behind Hyundai on EVs, they can't just magic the R&D of catching up overnight! That's at least five years of R&D by which Hyundai are ahead of Honda, if not more.
@scott4427
@scott4427 10 ай бұрын
As a fellow enthusiast of Honda innovation, their entire management and design team as well as the corporate board should be forced to sit and watch this video. You are absolutely spot on Johnny, the fact they haven’t done an e-Element is something that we can all lament.
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 10 ай бұрын
Glad I'm not alone in this frustration and disappointment. Thanks for watching.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 10 ай бұрын
With the two new concepts, Honda 0 saloon and Honda 0 MPV, Honda announced a focus on "artistic design". So I think Honda realise that this ultra-conservative styling that they have rolled out over the past couple of model years is a mistake. As you would expect, the Honda 0 saloon's styling like a stretched Lamborghini Diablo or example of 1970's retro-futurism has been polarised between people who love it and people who hate it, but I guess this is better than everyone thinking your cars are too boring!
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 10 ай бұрын
Japanese car brands see EV as a lost cause. They all have token cars in their portfolio because they're obligated to, and that's it. Mazda, Honda and Toyota all simply dont care about them. And are happy to have all the UDM and EDM brands lose their shirts over it. They dont expect to make money on them, they dont expect to sell many of them. They make their money on Pilots, CRV's, HRV's and Civics. Because those are the cars people buy, and keep. The current formula of EV cars just isn't a winning formula. Not for the environment and not for your wallet. When they solve the battery problem and replace it with something viable, im sure they will put in more of an effort to create a viable product. The whole idea about EV's being simpler and therefor more reliable is a joke. Look at how complicated the heating/cooling circuit is on a Tesla. And a good ICE outlasts a battery pack several times. I think with the recent cars Honda has been putting out, they know how to build one if they want to. But the truth is, in this case they just want a token vehicle. The fact it is perplexing to a car journo why this is a throwaway car to Honda, is beyond me. I guess they really bought into the notion that EV's are a viable product that has mass appeal. They dont. They are too expensive, too complicated because of the batteries, require too many rare materials to produce and they are not long-time purchases. Noone buys an EV, they all lease them. Well what happens to them when that period is over. Or what is someone realises that he would actually like to own his own vehicle?
@mroctarine
@mroctarine 10 ай бұрын
Heat pump missing, Zoe had that in 2012 but then Renault didn't carry over the slide-back charging hatch from the Zoe concept, which was a shame.
@geoffnewman3109
@geoffnewman3109 10 ай бұрын
What innovation?
@MrEV
@MrEV 10 ай бұрын
I don't know why NY1 would want one. It looks like one of the only good things about this car is that we've been given the gift of a sassy video from you!
@thebinkbink6349
@thebinkbink6349 10 ай бұрын
It is/was a cheap (and ulgy) Chinees car, they are bringing to the EU.
@BenExell
@BenExell 10 ай бұрын
Its for people who dont care about cars
@bibliotek42
@bibliotek42 10 ай бұрын
... or have ever tried another ev, or for the devoted fossil fuel community, who want to prove how rubbish an ev is. Perhaps that is in reality Honda's plan.
@Lewis_Standing
@Lewis_Standing 10 ай бұрын
Why isn't it NE1 not NY1 it's like people who pronounce the ford Ka as Kay AY instead of the clear intention of pronouncing it car....
@MikeDWinter
@MikeDWinter 10 ай бұрын
It’s a seriously disappointing EV. Love your review, Jonny, but you’re definitely not the only reviewer to think this is a total lemon. Bjorn Nyland’s is worth a watch; terrible economy, useless charging speed. I don’t want to believe that Honda have made a car to try and prove that EVs aren’t ready for the mainstream yet and to keep on pushing ICE & soft hybrid, but this one really isn’t ready for the mainstream market. Maybe in 2017, but definitely not 2024. What a waste.
@brucekennedy5274
@brucekennedy5274 10 ай бұрын
Politely eviscerates the car 😆 This is why we love Johnny - independent, lifetimes of experience and knowledge, and above all honest.
@escortjas
@escortjas 10 ай бұрын
I work at a Honda dealership and disappointing sums this car up perfectly. Doesn't help there's a Kia dealer within sight of our showroom displaying cheaper cars that go further, are more practical, have a better warranty and some individual style. There are more electrical models in the pipeline, but I'm no longer excited for them.
@TheAegisClaw
@TheAegisClaw 10 ай бұрын
Yeap, I've got an EV6, in the last year of the lease, as it stands... I'll just get another one the same.
@andybalfour1654
@andybalfour1654 10 ай бұрын
I’m beginning to doubt you work at a Honda dealer as you’d know about the current £8k deposit contribution and free servicing and increased warranty (5 years). This makes it cheaper to PCP than a Kia Niro by some margin. Show me a PCP Kia e-Niro on 8000 miles a year for £1k down and £390 a month. Using this desk this car is a bargain.
@jeremytaylor4458
@jeremytaylor4458 10 ай бұрын
@@andybalfour1654 Why are Honda discounting a new model by £8,000 already? Someone’s cocked up in the marketing department
@maff257
@maff257 10 ай бұрын
​@@jeremytaylor4458They've cocked up with the pricing on all their new models and seriously misjudged the market and their customers I feel.
@rickybryan1759
@rickybryan1759 10 ай бұрын
The EV9 has got Aussie show rooms and I think it’s a category killer for Prado, Discovery, Everest etc
@peterdanson9408
@peterdanson9408 10 ай бұрын
I nearly purchased a Honda e but the range wasn't enough for me so I went for the new Jazz hybrid sport which I love. I totally get everything you say about this car having had around three all electric vehicles. If only they would have updated the battery size in the E and given us a more European dashboard I would have gone for one in a heartbeat regardless of the price. A great review Johnny and I honestly hope Honda take on board your comments for future vehicles.
@marvinsamuels1237
@marvinsamuels1237 10 ай бұрын
I get the feeling Honda and Toyota have developed deliberately poor EVs so they can say based on their sales figures that no one wants EVs. But what they’ve failed to recognise, like VW, is that if you develop a poor EV, buyers that want an EV will not stick to their brand and stick with an ICE car, they’ll just find a good one to buy from another manufacturer. Buyers are not so stupid that they’ll buy substandard products at a higher price. Thanks for your honest review Jonny 👍🏾
@darrenhenderson5355
@darrenhenderson5355 10 ай бұрын
This……^
@speedstrn
@speedstrn 10 ай бұрын
The one thing missing from the review is that Honda shipped this to Europe to have something there, but in reality it's a Chinese market vehicle designed and manufactured by Honda's Chinese subsidiaries, originally released two years ago. It wasn't designed for western markets, isn't new, and that fwd Bev platform is only going to be for Chinese made Hondas. As a product for Europe, it seems like more of a placeholder to say they're selling something instead of it being an actual sequel to the e. Still, I very much agree with Jonny; it beats me why anyone would think it would be worth importing them to Europe at that price. At least they realized it wouldn't sell in the US (even though they played the same game with us by giving us a worse large Chinese model called an HRV instead of the latest HRV model sold in the rest of the world.)
@FischOderAal
@FischOderAal 10 ай бұрын
@@speedstrn It makes sense that this is designed/produced for the chinese market. Explains also how it's possible that the same design team can come up with the Honda e and this strange thing.
@bondjamesbond9041
@bondjamesbond9041 10 ай бұрын
No one is buying VW EV's. This company is cutting production of EVS. Honda does not see its future as a producer of EVS and see the short term future in hybrids (hence the excellent Civic. When it produces cars like the EY1 it is just paying lip service to the EV market and does not see itself as a serious contender.
@bubandit06
@bubandit06 10 ай бұрын
100% their "development" choices make zero sense otherwise.
@mekapaedia
@mekapaedia 10 ай бұрын
I love my Honda e, even though it has terrible range (especially in the winter) and charges slowly. It took one test drive to totally sell me on the car - the brilliant chassis, gorgeous design, and obvious passion that went into the car sold me immediately. Everywhere you look, there's something that someone clearly thought about and put there to make it a better place to spend time in. For my daily commute into the city from a nearby village, I still can't think of a better car for me. It's the only car my partner has ever liked, and I don't think I would be able to ever sell it. As someone who prior to the Honda e hadn't ever considered an electric car (and still isn't interested in any other electric cars), this is immensely impactful. I say this all to emphasize how depressing this review is to me. I knew the e wasn't going to be a success - it was too expensive, too small, and had too short a range - but to see a company like Honda retreat into such mediocre blandness so soon after making such an iconic car is really sad. I fear that these special "Honda moments" of brilliant eccentricity may disappear entirely, and the industry will be much worse for it. Awesome work as always, wish you the best!
@tranzyd8808
@tranzyd8808 9 ай бұрын
why would anyone even buy an Honda E beggars belief. Terrible range, Awful charging speed, Way overpriced, Massive depreciation... oh ... but looked cute so i will buy blindly..
@mekapaedia
@mekapaedia 9 ай бұрын
oh, you're right of course, sorry. i don't even know what brand makes it
@amigang
@amigang 10 ай бұрын
the Honda E was a great looking little car, but it was over priced and under range. I was hoping for the update they fix these two issue, not the design, it was brilliant, maybe just a bit bigger for more space, but that was the only tweak they needed to do.
@callummunro5400
@callummunro5400 10 ай бұрын
Yeah they have gone and changed the strong part of the old car
@ralfwasmund9656
@ralfwasmund9656 10 ай бұрын
Yes, exactly.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 10 ай бұрын
When the Honda e came out I absolutely loved the design. I've been holding off going electric in the hope that they would make a new version with improved range and a slightly bigger boot. That would be the perfect car for me. Sadly it looks as if that will never happen now. I guess I'll have to just wait and see what the Renault 5 Electric is like once it arrives now instead 😥
@tranzyd8808
@tranzyd8808 9 ай бұрын
the perfect electric car is definitely never going to be a Honda, they are simply not interrested.
@twambilile
@twambilile 6 ай бұрын
I love the design too, everyone is clowning the car then theirs me who absolutely loves it😢
@jcf1987
@jcf1987 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree Jonny, great review as always, but such a disappointment from Honda, they should have given us an updated Honda E instead.
@jcsrst
@jcsrst 10 ай бұрын
Don't worry the market will punish them...or not
@koolerking440
@koolerking440 10 ай бұрын
I can’t understand this either. Like one the same shape but slightly longer, More long distance than the Es city driving.
@MrJulianneave
@MrJulianneave 10 ай бұрын
Honda asking us to call this the "E" is like your mum asking you to call her new boyfriend "dad"
@GavinByrneLand
@GavinByrneLand 10 ай бұрын
If the e:NY1 is not an electric HRV, that must mean the HRV is an ICE powered e:NY1. R.I.P. Honda e 😢
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 10 ай бұрын
Ha! Good point.
@MarcoPon
@MarcoPon 10 ай бұрын
9:00 Current HR-V and Jazz aren't mild-hybrid, they are full-hybrid. The electric motor make the full power quoted in the car specs. Most of the time the traction is entirely electric, with the engine operating just as a generator. Only over a certain speed and in condition of (almost) constant load, the engine is connected to the wheels with a fixed ratio.
@rolandrodgers5201
@rolandrodgers5201 6 ай бұрын
Pretty basic error. So maybe the rest of the review is pants too.
@cafe405
@cafe405 10 ай бұрын
Amazing how they've made something so expensive, so cheap.
@scottishfanta
@scottishfanta 10 ай бұрын
This is my favourite comment
@Usersf134ssk
@Usersf134ssk 10 ай бұрын
The trend with new hondas really. Only riding the honda badge now.
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 10 ай бұрын
Because they dont want anyone to actually order these.
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 10 ай бұрын
@@Usersf134ssk That's bull. The Civic and Pilot are excellent vehicles. So is the Acura MDX.
@davewozere2k9
@davewozere2k9 10 ай бұрын
Bit like the ID3 in that respect, e-golf was wayyyy better.
@theklr
@theklr 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate this candid review. Honda has no business phoning in an ev like this. It feels clearly designed for some kind of emissions standard than actually trying to flex their muscle. You nailed it. No one is angry, we’re just disappointed. The E didn’t take off but instead of iterating, they completely regressed
@alisonb4898
@alisonb4898 10 ай бұрын
The Honda E was original and fun , this looks like every other crossover on the road . I was going to get the original Honda E because it was quirky and loveable but the only thing that stopped me was the lack of range, this new one I wouldn’t give it a second look in a carpark.
@JohnnyZenith
@JohnnyZenith 10 ай бұрын
It was also rubbish and unusable.
@IslaSprollie
@IslaSprollie 10 ай бұрын
How long did you keep your Honda e for ?@@JohnnyZenith
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 10 ай бұрын
@@IslaSprollie 100% chance they've never even sat in one
@onemanmob6756
@onemanmob6756 10 ай бұрын
Why would you put a charging port (or fuel tank cap) on the front bumper, where it is so prone to damage during a slightest fender-bender?
@nigelk780
@nigelk780 10 ай бұрын
So the charge cable always reaches
@Xandrax
@Xandrax 10 ай бұрын
Spot on. Honda alternates between making bonkers quirky masterpieces and completely drab disappointments.
@davidartina5022
@davidartina5022 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely spot on. Those of us that had the first gen insight felt exactly the same when the second gen appeared 20 ish years ago. They need to be told, and you did. Well done and thanks.
@frankgiacon3983
@frankgiacon3983 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree Jonny, The first Civic was a standout, Honda e likewise despite range limitations. This thing is reeeeeally sad. Has Honda and Japan in general decided to exit the car market?
@TimberwolfK
@TimberwolfK 10 ай бұрын
Great video Jonny. I think that rear armrest landing angle sums the whole thing up; it's a car made entirely of "will this do?"
@IslaSprollie
@IslaSprollie 10 ай бұрын
I love my Honda e, had it nearly 3 years and I still find myself saying 'I love this car' at random moments. Normally I have picked out my next car in the first week of ownership. I'm 54 and have had 28 other combustion cars over the the last 35 years. I feel so lucky that it's small range and lack of storage/boot, suits my life now. The e:Ny1 is exactly as Jonny describes.
@UltimateAccuracy
@UltimateAccuracy 10 ай бұрын
FluteMobile... All we wanted was an E with functional range. The Shamen called for it in '92 and Honda so nearly delivered... "E's are good!!"
@MrAjjm65
@MrAjjm65 10 ай бұрын
“Has anyone got any Vera’s? Lovely Ya Ha Ha”…
@fulanilovincriminal
@fulanilovincriminal 10 ай бұрын
You couldn’t be more wrong about the second gen Insight. We’ve had one as our family car for ten years, and it’s still fantastic. Averages 50mpg (where our old Corsa would struggle to get 22 on the city journeys we do), fun to drive when the kids aren’t in it (flappy paddle cvt is brilliant) and in ten years and 60,000 miles only one thing has gone wrong - rear brake caliper stuck on after driving through flood water. Literally nothing else has gone wrong in 10 years. And it’s nothing like a Prius.
@FistsOfHam
@FistsOfHam 10 ай бұрын
Seems like they wanted to play it safe after the e wasn't as popular as they'd hoped (as you pointed out they should have given it more love with newer tech before binning it) and they've played it so safe they produced something utterly bland and forgettable.
@Locost59
@Locost59 10 ай бұрын
The E wasn’t popular because the range was pitiful for the money. An eUp will go almost twice as for for 2/3 the price.
@enisra_bowman
@enisra_bowman 10 ай бұрын
@@Locost59 it was overall bit expensive even without considering the range which turned many people away that otherwise really liked the car
@unreliablenarrator6649
@unreliablenarrator6649 10 ай бұрын
Yes. Typical risk adverse Japanese management mentality. Don't ask whi the e did not sell (one reason: substandard range), just throw the baby out with the bathwater like F'n idiots. Now Honda have convinced themselves EVs are really not the future, canceled their plans to partner with GM (probably a wise choice) and not partnering with their already existing Chinese partners that could deliver them a better powertrain in less than a year using most of the e platform and get them back in the game. F'n gutless, risk-adverse, self-defeating management. Honda has sone great engineers but it seems not even average managers any longer.,
@MikeCarden
@MikeCarden 10 ай бұрын
Among your many excellent car reviews, this one stands out as a truly great review. Your obvious passion for Honda’s excellence in so many things is juxtaposed with your raw disappointment in a car that could have, that SHOULD have, been so much more.
@philipbellew9645
@philipbellew9645 10 ай бұрын
When I notice JS watch and shoes are the blue of the car and the jacket is a pure Smith and Smith yellow then I conclude the car itself was clearly rather dull. Its battery box is hanging out of its shorts and the black arches show up the wheels are not centred within the arches then I agree that this is really not good enough in todays competitive market. Good on you for calling it out. As a certain car journalist/ farmer once said its a car for people who have given up on life.
@jameswaters1169
@jameswaters1169 10 ай бұрын
I have really appreciated this review. I was so disappointed when I realised that this new Honda Electric car which is a similar length to the HRV had no magic seats. The Jazz has magic seats which we love. The HRV and the CRV do too I believe at least on most year of production.
@iannoble4854
@iannoble4854 10 ай бұрын
Nice to see an honest KZbin car review for a change, keep up the great work Jonny.
@Hasdac1896
@Hasdac1896 10 ай бұрын
Check out electric car-nage..
@Iowa599
@Iowa599 10 ай бұрын
The "single battery size" idea makes sense, to me. Even a larger battery size option would include the same battery that was there originally, and just have more cells somewhere. I foresee an optional extra battery, but that will consume a bit of luggage space.
@burnzy3210
@burnzy3210 10 ай бұрын
17:33 "no physical buttons" Who was asking for buttons to be removed!?!?!? *WE LIKE BUTTONS*
@bartdeking
@bartdeking 10 ай бұрын
When the touchscreen does not work flawlessly
@Trendyflute
@Trendyflute 8 ай бұрын
The accounting department and the reliability engineers sadly want them removed...but buttons have been worth it and haven't been a reliability headache for ages so even if there's an improvement, it's clearly not something customers are asking for.
@willpeony5534
@willpeony5534 8 ай бұрын
Buttons safer, feely eyes on road.
@screenPhiles
@screenPhiles 10 ай бұрын
"Am I angry? No, just disappointed," needs to be on a t-shirt.
@ralanham76
@ralanham76 3 ай бұрын
Send me the link 🤣
@dwftube
@dwftube 10 ай бұрын
Is it me, or does the battery hanging off the bottom look like a disaster waiting to happen?
@joshuaknight1748
@joshuaknight1748 10 ай бұрын
Reminds me of VW’s ‘e-käfer’ concept from a few years back. “where do we put ze batteries?” “Just hang zem of ze bottom”.
@MrAdopado
@MrAdopado 10 ай бұрын
Yes ... I immediately thought ... speed bumps ... bizzarre in an SUV style of vehicle to have such poor ground clearance!
@dwftube
@dwftube 10 ай бұрын
@@MrAdopado They've made a crossover and given it the ground clearance of a sports car.
@ioanliviu22
@ioanliviu22 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree, The E would have been the only imaginable model that would have gotten me interested in EV back then… And it made sense, unlike huge, heavy monster “environmental” SUVs or what everyone else was doing, converting normal cars to electric (Mini, Golf , Up!&friends, 500… etc. )
@vdivanov
@vdivanov 10 ай бұрын
Honda had a compliance Jazz/Fit EV in the US a decade ago. It was a closed end lease and they crushed them all. Anger with Honda is an understatement.
@rokko_fable
@rokko_fable 10 ай бұрын
The Fit was a great car! very practical for it's size. I get the need to stick with the civic/accord etc. but they keep killing of their greats like the Element and Fit.
@oambrosia
@oambrosia 10 ай бұрын
Problem is that car had like an 80 mile range.
@pb5x5
@pb5x5 10 ай бұрын
About the same as Honda E in real life.@@oambrosia
@jeremyloveslinux
@jeremyloveslinux 10 ай бұрын
@@oambrosiawhen it was released it was similar to a Leaf, but no DC charging, only L2
@michaellee8155
@michaellee8155 10 ай бұрын
OMG!!!! That's looks the same as my Jazz mk.2 (ICE-only) I'm driving. Never head of this before. The dash looks similar to the existing hybrid model. So they DID try and scrapped that idea... sad
@ppxppy
@ppxppy 10 ай бұрын
Sad to see Honda shooting themselves in the foot with the Euro version of the Dongfeng Honda e:NS1. Indeed a Jazz EV would be perfect. And same as the E, they don't seem to want to sell it at all - here in Portugal it starts at ~54k EUR and the highest trim level at ~58k EUR before some bits like rubber mats. (Edit: probably not including transportation and document fees, as the website mentions in very small type that one should check with the dealership for a definitive quote) For ~54k EUR you can get... a Tesla Model Y Long Range with your color of choice, and if you go with the default (white) it'll be just under 50k EUR, including transportation and document fees (49990 EUR). And it has a heat pump! (Not a Tesla owner, BTW, just looking at prices and seeing many Model Y and Model 3 around the Lisbon area)
@moneypits
@moneypits 10 ай бұрын
I’ve never heard Johnny have the arse with a car that much before and frankly it’s well deserved. Awful thing. Excellent consumer advice on what not to buy!
@jep1912
@jep1912 10 ай бұрын
Well he is going through 💩and Japan has let him down.
@jep1912
@jep1912 10 ай бұрын
The Geely floorpan has infiltrated everything. Utter crud.
@PhantomRadish
@PhantomRadish 10 ай бұрын
Nothing will ever top the traffic cone and tarpaulin BMW review 🤣
@moneypits
@moneypits 10 ай бұрын
@@PhantomRadish it’s cold outside, I’ve made a tea, so I need a link plz :)
@jodydewald19
@jodydewald19 10 ай бұрын
Very fair assessment Johnny. Love hearing a reviewers thoughts without being toned down.
@goosegog
@goosegog 10 ай бұрын
I spotted my first e:Ny1 today in someone's driveway parked next to a Jazz and was surprised to see it appeared to be a very similar size but less visually appealing than the Jazz
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 10 ай бұрын
Yup
@ASBO_LUTELY
@ASBO_LUTELY 10 ай бұрын
Looks pretty standard for what sells today, to me...
@PKWeaver74
@PKWeaver74 10 ай бұрын
Another great decision from the people who pulled out of F1 in 2009, just as they had built a car that won the world championship, then repeated that decision in 2001. Classic.
@DMlonghurst
@DMlonghurst 10 ай бұрын
I got an E on my disability car plan due to your review and Im so glad i did otherwise I would of missed out on something very cool and special. Sad to see it being discontinued. I see they havent learnt from the E and only done this model in 1 battery size 🙄
@Wannes_
@Wannes_ 10 ай бұрын
You'll have a cult car in the not too distant future If it isn't one already
@DMlonghurst
@DMlonghurst 10 ай бұрын
@@Wannes_ it’s amazing how much the price has crashed for the down payment on them over on the mobility site! I guess Honda just want to shift the numbers now
@Wannes_
@Wannes_ 10 ай бұрын
@@DMlonghurst Not seeing many new ones on Autoscout locally, as dealers weren't stocking them in numbers. But there's some "private sales" with silly low mileage (and photo's taken in a dealership setting) going for more reasonable prices now.
@Figureight
@Figureight 10 ай бұрын
30 seconds in as it comes into shot and I'm already deeply disappointed.
@Figureight
@Figureight 10 ай бұрын
My word what a great waste of time and resources this car represents. So many ways they could have gone about every single part of this car, and they managed to get it wrong every single time.
@sihaz1969
@sihaz1969 10 ай бұрын
Having been royally screwed over by Honda recently, (massive bill for something they decided 2 weeks later was a design fault and will now be done for free - though no refund for me for following their advice and having the work done when they said), I really enjoyed seeing Johhny give them a kicking.
@andymccabe6712
@andymccabe6712 10 ай бұрын
You're right, J...they HAVE created some phenomenal vehicles..... I've got one of their excellent lawnmowers...!
@craigcampbell1843
@craigcampbell1843 10 ай бұрын
The reason it has mirrors instead of cameras is because this will probably be sold in the states. In the states mirrors are still required. The Honda E is not sold in the states. Unfortunately.
@julianplant1797
@julianplant1797 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic review Jonny. Thank you for your honesty and clarity. I love Honda but this is a vanilla blancmange of a car. Save your money and get an IONIQ 5. Has the Honda design / engineering team been on an extended vacation? Where is the high power DC charging 78kW - not enough. Having cables in the boot UNDER the other stuff in the boot is NOT A SOLUTION. Get with the program Honda PLEASE . Jaz EV next please.
@dogcowrph
@dogcowrph 10 ай бұрын
I like that it doesn’t have a huge faux, non-functioning grill that threatens to eat the rest of the car.
@alechall7082
@alechall7082 10 ай бұрын
The Element is still incredibly common and New England. An electric Element would sell, without a doubt. Make it look like the E, and on the badge make the E in Element glow blue.
@jamesellsworth9673
@jamesellsworth9673 10 ай бұрын
Here is an appreciation of a vehicle given by a knowledgeable person who has loyally kept several of the marque's products. His views bear some weight to my thinking.
@krrk6337
@krrk6337 10 ай бұрын
As an ex-Honda R&D engineer, I see Honda has become Panasonic of car industry in lots of ways. No new technical innovation since millennium. Dragging on and on its old tech. Can't compete with Chinese, Korean in terms of innovation and marketing. Wasting too much time and money on unmarketable R&D works. Hanging on the legacy of Japanese quality and hope it would help their sales. Which now even if it could, that's not gonna last so long.
@davidrobinson8705
@davidrobinson8705 10 ай бұрын
Those gloss black arches make it look like it has the worst wheel fitment since the Triumph Acclaim…that was a Honda too 🤔😂
@Antiguan_Dart
@Antiguan_Dart 10 ай бұрын
Great video as always Johnny. The car underwhelming in so many ways. I actually laughed out loud when you showed their implementation for the opening of rear passenger panoramic roof blind! I look forward to better efforts from Honda.
@YsanneOshea
@YsanneOshea 10 ай бұрын
If you had to sum up everything about the EV market and embody it in one vehicle, this Honda would be it. A truly terrible thing. Could Honda not have taken the E, upsized it and stayed at the forefront of design? Accountants are important but if you listen to accountants and nobody else, this is what you get! An excellent review Jonny, Thank you!
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 10 ай бұрын
I think the E's platform was a dead-end, hence Honda going to Chevrolet manufacturing and Chevrolet platforms for their SUVs in North America. This e:HR-V is a compliance car converted ICE and then the Honda Zero range (2026 onwards IIRC) will be their actual new in-house EV platform.
@hankthetank185
@hankthetank185 10 ай бұрын
Great rant Johnny. I used to be a fan of Honda for years until Kia came along. Now we have moved on to the VW ID 4 to have some solid Germanic build quality and a whisper quiet ride.
@patteyh
@patteyh 10 ай бұрын
Giving the E a better battery and a more efficient engine would've been all they had to do. Only thing holding back the E was the abysmal range (Especially here in Norway where we are lucky to even get 130km's in winter)
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, why didn't they do a bigger range version and maybe a tech lift?!
@wangyaohan8824
@wangyaohan8824 10 ай бұрын
japanese manufacturers very reluctant to build EV car. every EV they build in japan will be more expensive than build them in china (they don't want to build in china). if they managed to sell lots of EV, a big portion of money will go to china (battery/battery material). so, they always half hearted.
@Mitch-Hendren
@Mitch-Hendren 10 ай бұрын
That makes perfect sense. Rather than send your profits abroad make them so no one actually wants them and concentrate on the profitable cars ..
@Locost59
@Locost59 10 ай бұрын
@@wangyaohan8824yet the British built Nissan Leaf is quite good value.
@Locost59
@Locost59 10 ай бұрын
@@wangyaohan8824also, this is made in China.
@hamster639
@hamster639 10 ай бұрын
Great review Jonny, just a correction, the hybrid range Honda do are 'self charging' hybrids not mild as they can run quite a distance in EV mode, mild hybrid cannot and is just a fancy stop start system.
@impuls60
@impuls60 10 ай бұрын
Midway I thought you were building up to a shockingly low price, and instead it was the opposite. Cracked me up :)
@alanclarke4965
@alanclarke4965 10 ай бұрын
Nice to watch a proper review - glad I wasn't hoping to want one of these. Actually have a Hyundai Kona - ugly thing - but 250-300 mile range and when inside you don't have to look at it, and was good value 2nd hand. EV market still lacking cars I'd both really want to buy + can afford!
@Spark010
@Spark010 10 ай бұрын
Great review! I think any car that places essential controls on a touch screen is a dud. Essentially favouriting lower costs over driver safety.
@maxcarter970
@maxcarter970 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree. I think certain controls should be regulated to be physical ones rather than on a screen. It’s too dangerous fiddling around trying change the temperature or volume.
@Spark010
@Spark010 10 ай бұрын
@@maxcarter970 agree, regulation would be a sensible step.
@michaelbushell4356
@michaelbushell4356 10 ай бұрын
You’re totally 😊right about this car, Johnny. It’s a total failure, but so was the E: too expensive, rubbish range; stupid cameras instead of door mirrors (surely the biggest solution for a problem that doesn’t exist in years). There’s a wider problem here though. Just because a car is electric it doesn’t mean that it’s a good car. I’ve been totally underwhelmed or appalled by awful styling of lots of new models. Mercedes Benz, BMW, the VW ID debacle, Mustang E, Toyota whatever it’s called -they all fail to make me want one. The excuse for manufacturers to fit stupid touchscreens for everything is another no no for me. As a proponent of electric cars, we need you to make more videos like this one -telling the truth about these emperors new clothes cars.
@chrisnewton6393
@chrisnewton6393 10 ай бұрын
I’ll stick with my E, if I was to change it would be an Ioniq 5, definitely not that any1😂
@juliandclarke
@juliandclarke 10 ай бұрын
Good choices: I have an e and an Ioniq 5
@Pegaroo_
@Pegaroo_ 10 ай бұрын
19:49 The more annoying thing is that if that car has air conditioning (and what modern car doesn't) then it has a heat pump and the only thing stopping that heat pump being used to heat the cabin is the addition of some reversing valves
@grumpyto5
@grumpyto5 10 ай бұрын
Good honest assessment, looks the same as others nothing outstanding. I’m waiting for the Renault 5.
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 10 ай бұрын
R5 promises a lot and should build on the solid foundations of Zoe.
@Mike_GA
@Mike_GA 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the honest review. Three of five vehicles in the family are Honda products and we agree that it doesn't have what we expect from the brand. It kept making me think it was a VW.
@mopedder2621
@mopedder2621 10 ай бұрын
All they needed to do was stretch the E by about 30cm and fit a higher capacity batterypack. Instead we get this.... thing. It's been deliberately designed to put people off EVs. It's cynical 😢
@ambercrossjunctionrailway2683
@ambercrossjunctionrailway2683 10 ай бұрын
Why would one want this car at such a high price when there are better models out there and cheaper, I run a CRV petrol all wheel drive and it is so good . Nope , sorry Honda you’ve missed a trick with this one. Thank you for such an honest review.
@DBGE001
@DBGE001 10 ай бұрын
The Honda e:Ny1 car is engineered and manufactured by Dongfeng in China. The only thing that distinguishes it from its Dongfeng twin is its badge and some interior materials. So, people seeking the typical Honda (engineered and made in Japan) qualities: steer clear.
@KeithBab
@KeithBab 10 ай бұрын
I was constantly waiting for Johny to drop the 'act' and explain that the reason it doesn't feel like a Honda is because it isn't. It's just a poorly made badge job.
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 10 ай бұрын
So what you're saying is racists stay clear.
@DBGE001
@DBGE001 10 ай бұрын
Donfeng is not exactly NIO when it comes to persevered quality and longevity. @@kristoffer3000
@DBGE001
@DBGE001 10 ай бұрын
Exactly, I wonder why he didn't drop the act further on in the video. @@KeithBab
@darrensaquaticsworld
@darrensaquaticsworld 10 ай бұрын
The gap between the wheels and arches is outrageous.
@lowfuel6089
@lowfuel6089 10 ай бұрын
Toyota Buzzforks is the name you were looking for.
@martijnkosters9024
@martijnkosters9024 10 ай бұрын
Ooh, I'll remember that!
@beefiron
@beefiron 10 ай бұрын
Excellent review. I think we all feel the same about this car, disappointed and frustrated. When legacy manufacturers go under over the next 15 years and everyone is blaming the Chinese, let's remember this review and see that they did it to themselves.
@eagle_and_the_dragon
@eagle_and_the_dragon 10 ай бұрын
The unique look, and I suppose the Side Cameras, was the USP of the E. A shame they resorted to such a drastic design downgrade.
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 10 ай бұрын
And the sheer cabin quality for a small car.
@eagle_and_the_dragon
@eagle_and_the_dragon 10 ай бұрын
@@TheLateBrakeShow I'll take your word on that, as I haven't sat in one 🤫
@MTH
@MTH 10 ай бұрын
As a Honda e owner I was quite interested to see the next electric vehicle from Honda. When I saw this materialized boringness I gave up. What can you say about this vehicle... you are 100% correct with that one word: "Sad".
@russellmalone3532
@russellmalone3532 10 ай бұрын
Great review. Tell it how it is!!
@slickvisualpoetry
@slickvisualpoetry 9 ай бұрын
I saw recently at a fair and my first thought was 'Glad that Honda has finally shown up to the party!'. I found the proportions agreeable, however I didn't know about the price, the boot, the charging speed. That's disappointing then. Thanks for the review.
@zelcpavle5494
@zelcpavle5494 10 ай бұрын
Great video with a lot of sarcasm and I laughed a lot 😂
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 10 ай бұрын
😉
@theguythatcouldfly
@theguythatcouldfly 10 ай бұрын
I think you're spot on. The E is on my short list of dream cars. We love our Pilot here in the States, but an E would be an incredible urban vehicle.
@40spinup
@40spinup 10 ай бұрын
Loved the Honda E, such a cool little car. Give me an Ioniq 5 though, that’s what I’d actually want to buy.
@MrEV
@MrEV 10 ай бұрын
Damn right. I know someone with an IONIQ 5 and Honda e. What a driveway!
@richardgledhill
@richardgledhill 10 ай бұрын
@@MrEV On our road of just 14 houses, there's an Ioniq 5, Honda E, Polestar 2, Tesla Model S, DS3 e-tense and a Renault Zoe. Not a bad line-up if we all went to the pub!
@MrEV
@MrEV 10 ай бұрын
@@richardgledhill What a road! The DS3 is letting the side down a bit though. 😀
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 10 ай бұрын
That's the coolest EV duo.
@GreasyWeasel
@GreasyWeasel 10 ай бұрын
I'm an Honda E owner, and my other half has a Ioniq 5 which I get to drive regularly. The Honda E drive is so much fun to drive. It genuinely makes me smile every time I get in it but it's range is severly limited, especially in the cold weather when you want the heating on. The Ioniq is fine and comfortable to drive, looks great and has plenty of room for the family. It doesn't fire your soul like the Honda E though and my youngest says the Honda E is the best car ever!
@HologramJones
@HologramJones 10 ай бұрын
I do not mind "small-ish" batteries (190 mile - 260 mile range). Less headaches and they suit most people's commutes, at least those who dont live on the motorway.
@Willyfarns
@Willyfarns 10 ай бұрын
The Honda e is a rare & veey very cool car!!! Ffs..... make the cars people want! Should of just updated the e !!! Great vis as always Johnny
@TheLateBrakeShow
@TheLateBrakeShow 10 ай бұрын
Yes, the e is an instant classic. They should have updated the batt and/or designed a bigger car that shared some of the design language.
@ds7320
@ds7320 10 ай бұрын
@thelatebrakeshow so they could have made the Honda E even cooler, rarer and hold its money better. or will it just die off ? @willyfarns
@neilbradford8554
@neilbradford8554 10 ай бұрын
Another brilliant example of why this is one of if not the best KZbin channels. Brilliant work once again....thank you 👏
@TheCarGuru
@TheCarGuru 10 ай бұрын
Electric cars 👎🏻
@robclark4628
@robclark4628 10 ай бұрын
This Honda e:Nywhocares and the new BMW i5 M60 blah blah blah are the perfect examples of why keeping a pre 2017 ICE on the road until it dies is the way forward. Paying hyper inflated new vehicle prices for tech that we all instantly turn off (lane departure etc) is so wrong. The front end used to just be heavy metal to protect you and lights to see what you are about to crash into. Nowadays it is like having a whole IT department glued on, no wonder insurance premiums have shot up if we have to replace all that crap that none of us asked for. Thanks Jonny for an honest review
@therushden
@therushden 10 ай бұрын
Not a Honda lover, nor an EV person but watched the whole video. Great review.
@howmanybeansmakefive
@howmanybeansmakefive 10 ай бұрын
All they need to make is a Honda E with a bit better range (or fast charging) and a bit of a bigger boot, and it would sell like mad! Even with a higher price point. I’ve been dreaming about one for years… Honda please!
@rururururuj
@rururururuj 10 ай бұрын
I think the beast is your most popular video- it’s the one that brought me to your channel!
@SJR313
@SJR313 10 ай бұрын
Love the honest, practical, factual journalism with the Jonny Smith sarcasm…that’s why I tune in! 👍
@nooooddy
@nooooddy 10 ай бұрын
Great review and wholly agree. I’ve got a Honda e. It is beautiful to look at but the crap range, abysmal software and laughable lack of dealer knowledge or support make it painful to live with. The interior is undermined by the truly awful UI and software. It looks like beta software with zero polish. Clunky, slow and incoherently organised. Honda made the e then immediately abandoned it. Such a massive missed opportunity.
@hf7188
@hf7188 10 ай бұрын
Waiting for the sedan they shown in CES , that was quite cool looking. This however, it's just pretty much a Chinese market car adapted to Europe market, hence the lack of that Honda japanese quirks.
@arielsaeth
@arielsaeth 10 ай бұрын
I think this is an example of how cars of the future will be, boring boxes that no one can enjoy to drive , cars used to be cool and something to be proud of having, this model is as exiting as a washing machine , it does the job but nothing to be enjoyed.
@artisan002
@artisan002 10 ай бұрын
I definitely agree with your assessments. This could have served better having been applied to an existing platform. And I thought the Honda E was set to be a near perfect city basher. But, instead, we get this thing almost named after a KPop band.
@WayneTheBoatGuy
@WayneTheBoatGuy 10 ай бұрын
You make great points (as per usual) and it is a bit of a head-scratcher. BUT Honda does seem to often toggle between really interesting vehicles and REALLY mundane ones.
@TSM13
@TSM13 10 ай бұрын
That just looks like a half-arsed job. The range and tech would have been average 4 years ago. And those roof “blinds” are laughable on a £45k+ car. Jonny, it’s nice to see someone giving a real, honest review and calling manufacturers out. Rather than sucking up to them to stay in their good books.
@lordraiden5398
@lordraiden5398 10 ай бұрын
Honda! Hey guy from America here. I owned many Hondas in my youth and put many miles on them. Lately I have been driving Subarus. When the E was first introduced I thought they looked so cool I said I am getting one. Then my heart was broken when I found out they weren't coming here. Now you replace the E with this? Yuk!
@CumuloNimbus-UK
@CumuloNimbus-UK 10 ай бұрын
Great video and you're obviously a skilled presenter. Though I have to say I started to get depressed listening to 25mins of your disappointment. I guess you know what you're doing though. I'm going to check out your other videos where I hope you've got more enthusiasm 🙂
@pl1068
@pl1068 10 ай бұрын
I ❤Honda , I have their V4 Motorbike, Turbocharged JetSki, 4 Stroke mower and garden power tools but this looks like they might be in trouble. It’s the same with their motorcycle range no more V4’s , makes me really sad.
@chrishartley7275
@chrishartley7275 10 ай бұрын
Totally agree Johnny, I've loved my Honda e for the last three years but it was a second fun car so when we went to one it had to be a Kia e-Niro. Lost a bundle on tradein too of course!
@timwilks666
@timwilks666 10 ай бұрын
If any manufacturer was going to be brave and clever enough to launch an EV that appealed to cynics like me by being properly innovative and useful (instead of an identikit fat blob), you'd think it might be Honda. Or Lotus, but theirs is even more irrelevant. Love that a genuine EV (and Honda) enthusiast like you Jonny still entertainingly tells us that this one is a complete waste of everyone's time.
@sparkiepaul1
@sparkiepaul1 10 ай бұрын
GREAT review, Jonny, I reckon it's gonna give the first Honda E review you did a run for its' money
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