Part 7: Austin Allegro Type R Sleeper Turbo & intercooler plumbing

[@tim205Mi]

I really do love this project! So up my street, great fab work and spec will be awesome…. Keep the vids coming! Motivates me to be out in the garage, Perfect 👍

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

Great to hear Tim, thank you for following. Projects are often hard and have unpredictable moments, especially when you trying to do something custom.

[@jd-lr7zu]

@@TheLateBrakeShow cant wait till this is finished.

[@stevie007]

Hat`s off to Adam 🙏🙏 this bloke is a bloody magician 🙏🙏

[@noexpensespentstudios]

If you did the wheel centres silver with a black rim it would give it that small wheel with tall tyres look of a standard Allegro, might help sell the sleeper look a little more. Fully silver wheels are going to look massive and would definitely give the game away too quickly. It's nice how well everything is slotting in up front, especially not having to have the cooling components on display.

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

Cool idea, thank you

[@DazB37]

+1 ace idea!

[@dankrafted]

i was thinking the exact same thing. would be a great compromise and should give the right look

[@scotti_wan_kenobi]

As good as the black wheels look, they need to be silver to maintain the sleeper aesthetic. Can't wait to see the finished article, it's going to be something special.

[@SturbokSensei]

If i recall correctly he will be using the original silver hubcabs on top as he explained in a section of the second episode. In the first episode of the series the car was "rescued" with a similar setup and Johny seems very keen to preserve that look, which i don't think is that crazy since the black wheel with the orignal hub cab looks very nice and sleepery at the same time.

[@scotti_wan_kenobi]

@@SturbokSensei yes he'll use the original chrome hubcaps but no Allegro was ever supplied with black wheels from the factory so to maintain the illusion of "standard" the wheels have to be silver. Even though they look better in black.

[@jono6379]

Totally agree. Black is good if youre doing a restomod but for a sleeper the silver would be better.

[@johnnunn8688]

How many people remember the orig spec colour?

[@starfox_wr-45e93]

@@johnnunn8688 Just Johnny and Adam, I reckon. 🤣 The majority of people that see this thing on the road won't even know what an Austin is.. let alone the wheel specs of an allegro I remember the same hubub about not going with the V6.. nothing about this car "Needs" to be anything other than 'Johnny-Spec'.

[@davidf2281]

Looking good! I'm with Adam on the wheel colour -- black is undeniably aesthetically better but it's not 'sleeper' enough; they gotta be silver in my humble opinion.

[@michaellawrence3345]

Naaa topaz blue mate

[@davidmatthews3093]

I’m sure that in an earlier video they showed the original style hubcaps that they will fit to make i5 look as original as possible.

[@ianemery7785]

The wheels definitely need to be silver but then I’ve never understood this thing with black wheels; they just look like you’re too lazy to clean them🥴

[@Gassit]

Yea agreed, if the aim is ultimate sleeper it should have silver wheels even if black is more aesthetically pleasing.

[@watcher24601]

If it is all about looking original, then ditch the wider rubber they scream modified far more than what colour the wheels are

[@MrRobhadfield]

Black wheels, chrome hub cap and beauty rings 👌🏼

[@Lacebylad]

Fell asleep watching Top Gear tonight. So boring. Now glued to this at 2am and trying to not to binge watch the whole build from the beginning. Things to do tomorrow 😂😂😂 Your a star Jonny

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

Mike, really chuffed you are enjoying the build. Many thanks and welcome aboard TLBS.

[@TheGreatest1974]

I must say the skill of the mechanic is great on this project.

[@MrAdopado]

Agree ... let's call him an engineer though ... there are plenty of excellent mechanics who wouldn't claim to have his skills!

[@ianjobernsdrivinginstructor]

Adam is so talented - it's a privilege to be able to see the fabrication genius at work.

[@JamesAllen-lo6el]

Just caught up with this playlist of the AllegRo build, great work, love watching the builds develop over the videos, inspires me to keep chipping away at my restoration/ overhaul in the garage :)

[@garrydavis3475]

Another masterpiece from Somerset’s number one petrol head nice one John boy

[@mantarayal]

Wheels black minus the caps! They look cool. Love steelies!! But I know you're going serious sleeper....this car is going to rock!!

[@anyscaleclassics6880]

20 years ago I spent alot of time around BL's finest. Back then I dreamt of things, but the contents of that worksop far exceeds any of that. I can't wait to see that aggro finnished. Hats off to all involved!

[@Magnificent729]

Keep the wheels black - there’s my vote!! Can’t wait to see this finished. Got lent one by my boss as a run around waaaay back (before I even had a ticket to ride). The original was… functional (when it functioned). Yours will be epic!

[@magpie6648]

brilliant project.. i love the fact you've got the hub caps to fit.. keep the wheels black, just to hint at something special... LOL as if it's needed....

[@RichieRouge206]

Definitely stick to silver to make it look even more original! Adam is a genius- no questions! Love this project so much!

[@jeffshaw4553]

Wow it’s looking good since last time I watched build on this well done Adam xxxx😊😊

[@jonathanmackin4130]

The VW mk3 (non VR6) knuckle is the exact same as VW Mk2 knuckle. I went through the same conundrum trying to “update” and rebuild my 28 year owned VW GTI, recently. Similar idea a sleeper swap but add reliability. I was told many things, track width issues, etc. bought the bits and came up with the same configuration as you have. Albeit mine is a Golf…Works great. You could upgrade the rear to disc using a VW polo disc setup, and carriers cut from a Lupo…

[@paulstoneHumanbasic]

Black with the chrome cap, defo. 😃 It's gonna be wicked

[@redditch11b]

Keep the wheels black! :) The car looks amazing. Adam's done an amazing job

[@paulbennett4548]

This project is coming along beautifully. Adam's solutions and designs to solve the engineering problems are exquisite. Sorry Lads you are creating a work of automotive art. Looking forward to the next part.

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

Many thanks Paul. Finally Jonny can see some light at the end of the tunnel?

[@Daz_Stap]

Im loving following the progress of this build, my grandparents had an almost identical allegro (4 doors, same colour), when I was growing up. Oh, silver wheels, definitely. I look forward to seeing this in the metal one day.

[@floreswoestenburg9367]

Adam is an absolute master!!

[@keithleesley5979]

Looking brilliant so far, I noticed that there doesn't seem to be much room for the bowl of the headlights with the turbo pipes in, enjoying this!

[@paulriggers1558]

i've got a pair of allegro h/lamps, not that deep at back, should clear. yeah, a while back my brother turned his freshly finished "restomod" allegro into a cabriolet under a 40t truck [low winter sun, wet road], still got a few bits lying around. yes, he survived.

[@DavinaTheWeena]

I think silver wheels then they show off the definiton of the holed pattern with a greater contrast & clarity

[@darcygerrard4899]

Great episode. Adam is a genius! I’ve loved this concept from the start, and look forward to seeing the end result. It’s far more interesting than just bolting a EV drive train in.

[@nathanspeers9616]

Great vid and you and Adam seem to work together well! Silver trims with black wheels is the way forward me thinks 😂

[@ricatiman]

For the wheels - IMHO leave them black, and perhaps find a trim ring in chrome/polished aluminum to add, covering some of the black for the separation to the tires....

[@more.power.]

HI Jonny the perfect Sleeper is looking great and getting ready to spring at it's first victim. Richard Hammond drove the Top Gear UK Drag Race (Ford Transit XJ220 Engine vs Holden Pick Up) and cleaned the Australians up in the Maloo ute.. I am so excited to see your project when completed. Well done Jonny. Cheers Mate.

[@deangaryjames]

Love Adam's confidence, in safe hands there!

[@ccrjason]

Don't worry about the cosmetics (wheel colour) until its a full rolling chassis, you may need to change things again and it's better not to waste the effort. Keep it coming, this is a fab piece of engineering and fabrication 👍

[@BanjoLuke1]

I simply love this project. It started from a perfect place and just gets better. Mission creep is justified by the outcome. It is not as I would do it, but it is not my car and not my choice... But it is being done with such enthusiasm, such inventiveness and such passion that it will be simply wonderful. This is the content at which this channel excells. I avoid the slightly "smelly of the hard sell" eulogistic and blinkered claptrap about Chinese MGs, but this project is a marvel. And the chats with the like of Button are a marvel. And the mad clections in barns and lock-up are a marvel. This project, however, is the absolute cherry on the cake. Chapeau!

[@chasevans7171]

Aren't mk2 escort steering racks in front of the bottom ball joints? Or is it a flipped LHD rack? hope it's not the same as when a mate was building from scratch a Haynes locost in a council lock up out of stuff from the scrapyard back in the day. He pushed it proudly out into the daylight to show me it was on its wheels and rolling for the very first time. Once it was out the garage door, he steered right and it went left. He was quiet for a bit then said to me "do you think I could learn to drive it like that?"...... Luckily he saw sense and went back to the scrapyard with his tape measure for a forward steer rack afterwards. He did finish it and it drove really well in the end. Really loving the agRo project, some great engineering evolution going on. so glad it's getting steels under stock arches. My usual old car wheel colour choice is Simoniz wheel silver which is a few shades darker than most, almost a gunmetal, with a little bit of matting agent in the two pack laquer sealing it in. Then again, satin black would visually blur the wheel / tyre so it could pass as 155 / 80 13's from a glance instead of defining the big low profiles. Probably the stealthiest option.

[@martinpettett4306]

Really loved this series, and can't wait for the finished product... And the wheels should be silver!

[@caldosan5823]

Love the project, silver is more sleeper, black looks better but I’d go silver. Good luck 🤞

[@markreed9853]

I had an Allegro 3 with 1750cc, twin carb in metallic gold, a vinal roof, and round headlights as my second car in 1986. Cost me £900. Had to have the roof resealed as it leaked, and the exhaust manifold welded due to a leak but the heat shield was broken off so used to splutter and die as overheated in traffic. Carbs were a pain to get set up and would drift off so got 18mpg so sold it after 6 months! - the first car I had with 5 gears and I liked it but so many problems!

[@yjsaabman]

It looks so good, Jonny! The stance is fantastic. Kudos to Adam and FabCo UK!

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

Cheers v much Andrew.

[@witton6475]

Literally cannot wait for this project to finish. Every episode is more exciting. Looks like quite a bit of weight being added to the front end. Obviously the power unit is a significant upgrade and all the ancillaries need to match it.

[@TheGreatest1974]

This will be absolutely brilliant when finished. Being an old Allegro, it’ll be the best sleeper ever. Keep going with this and good luck to you 👍

[@johnrowell942]

Fantastic work and go with the sliver wheels. As you want a classic sleeper look. Great idea using VW hub parts. 👍💯

[@dcallan812]

Personally do the wheels silver and move the inner wheel tub in a little, keeping the old boot floor. But it's looking so much more like a car. great update 2x👍

[@TheJonno1968]

I wish this project was moving quicker lol, I’m dying for updates and to see it finished. Well done all involved.

[@SmallBlogV8]

If it's front-wheel-drive then maybe fit a narrower-section tyre to the rear wheels? It could buy you the 5mm or so off the sides if it comes down to that, plus less rubber at the back would make it pointier in the bends.

[@gemspotting6252]

Been following since day one all those years ago and this is just a fantastic project - one of the best in fact

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

Why thank you Gem Spotting

[@paulheywood2116]

This and the lada sleepers are just so good

[@ibana8449]

When I served my time at a truck garage, my foreman owned an Allegro. And being the apprentice I got all the servicing & repairs to do. The rear hydroelastic pipe went and dropped the cars back end. He rang the Austin dealer and they wanted some extortionate price for the pipe which he wasnt prepared to pay (talking 1983 prices) So I was tasked to replace the pipe with an item from the truck stores, I ended up using a braided hose from a truck and making the ends fit, the pipe was thick end of £150 and the stores never noticed it go missing. Bless....

[@mlowbridge2988]

Another top update on this project,Adam keep up the great work

[@tonydotnottingham]

Love this build, thanks for bringing us along! Another vote for silver wheels, remember - you’d never choose this colour combination if ordering the car today, it’s supposed to lol a bit BL naff. Additionally, will the inter cooler pipes be painted BL brown to compliment he custom engine cover?

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

We are going brown with the pipes, yeah!

[@althejazzman]

@@TheLateBrakeShow I'm amazed you can buy brown silicone pipes. Can't be too much demand for those!

[@roygardiner4002]

I agree - silver wheels for your street sleeper; Subtle flares might be needed though for plod.

[@andyhill6398]

Escort rack goes in the front. (Steers the front of the hubs)If you mount it on rear , you need a LHD rack mounted upside down.

[@thomasdavidbassett483]

I don't think you need to make apologies to people, this is fantastic. I have just binge watched seven episodes. It is as good as it gets, if not better than a lot of tv productions. You just get on with it. Can't wait for your next instalment.

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

Wish everyone was like you Thomas. Cheers.

[@1968spikey]

LOVE this project. I've always had the guilty pleasure of loving Allegros and have often envisaged a tubbed Pro-Street Allegro estate - the styling of that rear window just gets me. Awesome build Johnny! Been following this from the start. Wheel wise I'd be tempted to either put some MkIV / 5 Cortina style period trimrings OR go for a chrome Rimblade treatment to emphasise the Wheel diameter against the MANDATORY period hubcap. Don't do the silver imho.

[@970357ers]

This will be the first Allegro worthy of it's name.

[@timwood7808]

Silver wheels Jonny 🙋🏻‍♂️ Loving this build. Can't wait to see it running.

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

👊🏽

[@ClassicMinishorts]

Just a heads-up, it will be far easier if there are playlist for each project on the channel. I just found this update by chance, I didn't see it in the generic project playlist. I only say this because it's an awesome project and deserves all the views 👍

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

Thanks for the advice - we might put them into folders.

[@MattVF]

Can’t wait to see the finished article!

[@davidbailey533]

Love the vanishing nearside front wing lol

[@envoycdx]

Epic as always, I'd love to see the Fabco cut of this too :) Just going to weigh in on the wheels. if you like em black, leave them back.. sleepy doesn't have to mean standard looking, plenty of people customised their cars surely? :)

[@noeldyne389]

This is finally starting to look like a car. So much work has gone into it. Must be a great feeling to see some light at the end of the tunnel Jonny. Why don't you go for slightly narrower tyres ? Would look more original a save the hassle on the rear. Definitely silver wheels. The whole idea is that its a sleeper. Black wheels totally give the game away. Good luck with the rest of the project 👍

[@lptomtom]

I really don't understand this choice of wheels, it throws the "sleeper" idea out the window completely

[@noeldyne389]

@@lptomtom Will look much better with hub caps and silver wheels. Raise it a little too

[@lptomtom]

@@noeldyne389 Good point, raising it would help quite a lot

[@bodders306]

Hi Jonny, see the car cave video approaching 300k well done the feedback I’ve had has been awesome. Ref the aggro wheels - silver, simple, Est wishes Mark Holland

[@steveyates1098]

Love this whole project and the nerdy attention to detail this is right up my OCD street 😁. Just a thought I like black wheels but silver would be more sleeper but......... How about going a darker silver maybe with a higher metallic/pearl content like Toyota Venetian silver (1f8) a nod to original but with a twist ?

[@wackedoutdude]

This i going to be mega. Loving the build . Keep up the great content.

[@Hcp22Lasse]

Coming along really well, and I say silver wheels 👍🏻

[@AdamJRichardson]

Those plastic pipes for turbo mocking-up are a thing of genius!

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

Aren't they just? FabCo is an agent for them, but I'd never heard of them until Adam introduced me to adult Lego.

[@marksmith762]

Love the engineering that’s gone into this. A friend of mine has built a Marina Coupe rally car that’s now got struts front and rear with pro flex suspension and a 2.5 litre Duratec engine and MX5 gearbox. It’s now basically a group4 escort in a Marina shell. He’s also used the Corsa power steering conversion. I’ll be interested to see how this ends up when it’s finished

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

I want to see this Marina now

[@andydawson2070]

Such an exciting project. I think you should go with silver wheels to keep as close to original as possible. Looking forward to seeing more.

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

Think you are right. We might paint some rust effect on them too.

[@davidedangelosante6963]

Can't waint to see the car completed! I would suggest to put some "functional indentations" on the tubular frame, so that in the event of a crash the tubes fold on themselves instead of punching the frame of the car and entering the cabin

[@johnnunn8688]

I can’t wait to see this run. I’d like also, to see it do a 0-60, quarter mile and lap, against a ‘normal’ All-Aggro. (Having called it an All-Aggro, I had no problem with mine, I rather liked it in fact.)

[@michaelroberts4923]

Black, no hubs. It gives a little insight to it being something special!

[@seanmcneill8899]

Unreal build Lads can't wait to see the finished product. keep it up😎

[@TimToolman]

Nice fabrication funk song at the end there; where have I heard that before? (Cough: binky)

[@johnti1653]

My favourite project car ever!

[@scottpsychodub6385]

Black wheels for the win, Jonny 👍

[@petermoser1012]

Enjoying this project a lot, wheels have to be silver though as it's a sleeper!

[@whitemoor66]

Coming along nicely. The more I see of this the more I wish I could have kept my old Agro when it died in 93. I thought it was beyond help, but this just proves it wasn't! Wheels must go silver btw, otherwise you're not sticking to your authenticity brief👍.

[@stevefinch8519]

I love an aggro now especially with type r power , can't wait to see it worrying m3s and clio 182s at trackdays .

[@jamest5149]

Go silver on the wheels to keep it stealth and more OEM looking… they do look good in black but might be a leap when you have gone to so much length with the oem paint and look elsewhere… guess theres no bad choice thought 👍

[@robertdunsmore]

I'm sure this has been suggested/asked close to a bazillion times already, but this would be a fun EV project. On a related note, you never see anyone (on KZbin) doing hybrid conversions.

[@gregorypaulbox3035]

It's a pretty complex jigsaw puzzle that is slowly taking shape. Personally, I prefer the black steel wheels without the chrome hubcaps. Looking forward to the next chapter.

[@russellmurphy4191]

looking good, But I hope the escort rack is not off the shelve though, otherwise you will be steering left to go right, that would be quite entertaining

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

LHD rack reqd.

[@jckblck]

On the rears, you can go Ibiza/Polo rear stub axles, which keep the bearing on the stub, and the disc swaps on and off without needing to pull the bearing. MK3 Ibiza Cupra. 6K I think is the chassis code? The first 20vt one. They'll be 4x100, there may be a 5x100 off the shelf flange and disc for that stub.

[@xenonpestpreventioncontrol8168]

Brilliant progress. SILVER Wheels🤩

[@andrewmanning5763]

Awesome - nothing else to say really (oh, apart from I would like to see what the silver wheels would look like?)

[@stevefinch8519]

Please keep the black wheels with silver hub caps it looks really mean with that stance and colour combo

[@westrata]

discussed rear tire/wheel spacing, but not so much about the front wheel/tire. It looks like they extend beyond the fender well by quite a bit.

[@matteiflex]

SILVER steels Jonny, without question. It's got to be faithful to B.L to be a true sleeper. It's not about what looks better, its what's right that matters.

[@jimbuilds]

I'm loving the work that's been put in, it'll be great to see it rolling. I know what you mean about wheel colour, when picking wheels for the cortina I wanted steel wheels but the original silver is too light against the white paint so I went gun metal - they can always be repainted!

[@The_BenboBaggins]

Hey Jonny: Saw a Peugeot 604 V6 saloon in Peterborough today - it had a venetian blind in the back window!

[@dblackledge4393]

Awesome content and fab work so far. Silver on the wheels for me, maybe a dark chrome finish.

[@quicknickdriver8510]

Coming along nicely. Adam’s really getting his head around it.

[@peterhynds7231]

Paint the wheels in a mid 'Shadow Chrome' they will maintain a factory look but will change colour with varying light or at the angle/distance they are viewed from.

[@Intravenusdimilo]

I love the way Adam talks to camera in a way that when you the viewer put a turbo charged engine into your Allegro you too may want to consider...

[@johncallahan118]

Hi ! it gives motivation to look around and prepare for a swap of my own ! I would love a blue 5dr Civic FN1 facelift with a Type R drivetrain or a k24. I don't want a turbo, i want a NA around 220hp 5 door Civic FN1which can be driven everyday. It's probably a wild and distant dream, but Ill look into it. Keep publishing ecclectic content please. It's make the channel one of the most enjoyable of the car content world. :D

[@JakobKsGarage]

Oooh, blue pipes! It is going to be fast! 😆

[@MrEtonmess]

Silver for the wheels for sure. 😉

[@rickydub6950]

Really interesting episode 👍 top class fabrication 😎 wide track on a mk2 is the subframe and wishbones from a mk3 as far as i know, so wouldn't have been a factor with your set up 🙂

[@PyroIndigo]

black wheels with some dress up trim (i.e. chrome lip) to match the factory caps might be a good compromise. The silver works better on other colours, black really pops on this. A bit more chrome would make it look more like a factory finish (albeit inaccurate to oem) without losing that contrast

[@maxflight777]

Incredible workmanship. Best wishes

[@Mrfun39]

Go bl silver on the wheels. It will be original looking and give it the proper sleeper look.

[@matfenwick]

Another vote for silver wheels if it was my car, but you could always give one a quick spray with a rattle can to see how it looks? Really enjoying the build, as it fits my ethos completely. I've re-engineered my first car (owned since 1997!) with twice the number of cylinders and over double the capacity, but kept the sleeper look completely.

[@TheLateBrakeShow]

What is your car Mat? Sounds awesome.

[@matfenwick]

@@TheLateBrakeShow It's equally as undesirable (to most) as an Allegro - an early Hyundai Stellar. But I like it, and the memories it evokes are priceless.