How Women's Perfect Body Types Changed Throughout History

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@Tsumami__
@Tsumami__ 6 жыл бұрын
Marilyn was not heavy set. A size 12 in the 1950s was closer to a size 5-6 now. Lucille Ball also wore a size 12 dress and she was svelte. Women’s clothing sizes have changed because WE have gotten obese as a majority and they had to enlarge dress sizes.
@horrificabomination
@horrificabomination 4 жыл бұрын
Women's clothing sizes mean literally nothing. It's just numbers assigned based on what size would sell more. Eg. A more "high end" store would have the same sizes listed as 4 that a cheaper place would have as a 6.
@draphotube4315
@draphotube4315 2 жыл бұрын
@@horrificabomination humanity did get a lot fatter over the years though no denying that. These days it’s rare to find people with a healthy body, they are either walking skeletons or unhealthily fat.
@aliciamack9323
@aliciamack9323 Жыл бұрын
So true it did
@draphotube4315
@draphotube4315 10 ай бұрын
@Catmintwiththesmallpawsies I myself am slowly getting to a healthy weight, still not there yet, am/was a skeleton too.
@Karen-e1f
@Karen-e1f 8 ай бұрын
Some got healthier. Some got diabetes. Some got hypoglycemic. Some got hypothyroidism.
@fayeskelly1633
@fayeskelly1633 7 жыл бұрын
If you're not considered hot today, wait a decade, maybe you will be by then.
@georgekehaya5830
@georgekehaya5830 7 жыл бұрын
No, watch Some Mike Mew videos. It's all about having correct tongue posture to be beautiful... Sad but true.
@ArcticZombie
@ArcticZombie 3 жыл бұрын
You’ll probably have to wait another generation.
@kingchichi201
@kingchichi201 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt it
@sugarzblossom8168
@sugarzblossom8168 Жыл бұрын
​@@ArcticZombie that isn't too long
@redrizzla1989
@redrizzla1989 6 ай бұрын
​@georgekehaya5830 Its not sad and its not true 😂😂😂 good genes, physical fitness and good style make people attractive.
@ktqt8544
@ktqt8544 7 жыл бұрын
I hate the "today you can look however you want!" cop out that a lot of these "throughout history" videos do. Like sure you can, but that doesn't mean that there isn't still a popular look. Like, the body type right now is more of a Kim K body, with large butt and bust and a somewhat thinner waist you know
@jenniferblohmichael97
@jenniferblohmichael97 6 жыл бұрын
And quite hard to achieve naturally
@Thinking.Of.Some.Handle
@Thinking.Of.Some.Handle 6 жыл бұрын
So... why be like someone else? You're not them..be your own body type and don't worry about following a dumb trend. Stop following society's expectations and be You.
@cenedictbumberbatch95
@cenedictbumberbatch95 6 жыл бұрын
exactly! And it’s about the most unrealistic/ hardest to get body type because their waists are sooooo tiny compared to you hips and breasts
@smirror196
@smirror196 6 жыл бұрын
Yea the Slim-Thicc look, it’s truly just an hourglass figure but intensified so much that usually surgery is needed to get it
@chloeparent3044
@chloeparent3044 6 жыл бұрын
Kt Qt I'm just a twig ;-;
@woof6056
@woof6056 7 жыл бұрын
I say that beauty is all about what's inside. And being healthy can't hurt either. If you feel good, and act kind, isn't that true beauty?
@محمدعليعمر-ز7ع
@محمدعليعمر-ز7ع 7 жыл бұрын
Olivia Kutner no
@محمدعليعمر-ز7ع
@محمدعليعمر-ز7ع 7 жыл бұрын
Olivia Kutner big tit and big ass thats all that matter
@tatemcalister2482
@tatemcalister2482 7 жыл бұрын
Olivia Kutner This reeks of naivety. We all see how well that is working out with Bioware😂
@andreiagalvao5284
@andreiagalvao5284 7 жыл бұрын
yes it is
@tullerules5516
@tullerules5516 7 жыл бұрын
Tate Mcalister How is it naive?
@rattygirlie
@rattygirlie 7 жыл бұрын
I really like these videos, because they show that beauty really is in the eyes of the beholder.
@rattygirlie
@rattygirlie 7 жыл бұрын
Dead pool lol why so rude?
@zeyprestige5110
@zeyprestige5110 7 жыл бұрын
Depends if that beholder is closed minded.
@rattygirlie
@rattygirlie 7 жыл бұрын
Zey Prestige yeah, but even closed minded people think certain people are beautiful for whatever reason, and their perception of beauty will not be the same as everyone else's'.
@floowing7544
@floowing7544 6 жыл бұрын
They didn’t for the male standards of perfect body video.... kinda pissed me off
@kirbypopstar5807
@kirbypopstar5807 6 жыл бұрын
Floo Wing the media always focuses on women’s bodies and looks. It’s fucked up.
@scoopearly
@scoopearly 7 жыл бұрын
I'm uncomfortable with this video's obvious agenda-pushing
@Nqutical
@Nqutical 6 жыл бұрын
I'm right there with ya, wish they kept their stance out of a supposed informational video.
@chriss1011
@chriss1011 2 жыл бұрын
Yah it's obvious they're pushing the agenda that white people try to rule the world and set the fashion stage
@StuJones-gn7te
@StuJones-gn7te 16 күн бұрын
They seem to believe that artists always painted or sculpted their ideals too. We know this is not true and we don't even know that men made those stone age works.
@tavrosnitram1529
@tavrosnitram1529 7 жыл бұрын
"A little on the heavy side" "a healthy stomach" pfft, wow ok I think I'm done with this bs XD
@jenniferstinebaugh204
@jenniferstinebaugh204 7 жыл бұрын
yes it's true about the queen.but what they forgot to mention was the fact that..that white face paint had led in it which made her age faster than the normal ageing process..also was slowly being poisoned by it..that's one of the reasons she lost her hair..that and they say she also suffered from alopecia..
@CherryRedBanshee
@CherryRedBanshee 7 жыл бұрын
Pale, frail, and weak was pretty in Victorian England? Ah shit, I would've been gorgeous had I been alive then. I mean I wouldn't have any rights and I'd probably die of the flu, but at least I'd be gorgeous
@tuulia249
@tuulia249 6 жыл бұрын
Sparkyisheretoparty yeah same I would have KILLED it back then xD im legit white as snow....
@jasminex6421
@jasminex6421 6 жыл бұрын
my body fits in the greek era lmao
@chloeparent3044
@chloeparent3044 6 жыл бұрын
Sparky Marie same
@valerieschaible7050
@valerieschaible7050 6 жыл бұрын
Ahaha same
@emilymatthews2990
@emilymatthews2990 5 жыл бұрын
Same. 😂
@adoramae5436
@adoramae5436 7 жыл бұрын
In defense of the "healthy belly" comment. For the paleolithic era, to be heavy was to be healthy because due to the nomadic hunter-gatherer lifestyles, food supplies weren't stable and movement was constant. Having reserves (fat) meant that (A) you're skilled at finding food on a regular basis, and (B) if necessary, you can go longer without food BECAUSE you have energy reserves, aka fat. Also the woman the statue is depicting is most likely pregnant as you can see her hands resting on the tops of her breasts, which appear to be swollen, possibly with milk.
@mallorynickens600
@mallorynickens600 6 жыл бұрын
it’s so sad, that women of all ages are struggling to look “perfect” we are all beautiful
@ArcticZombie
@ArcticZombie 3 жыл бұрын
I mean we’re not different or special from any other animals, so we’re all victims of our own sexual selection 🤷‍♂️
@sertdemir7138
@sertdemir7138 3 жыл бұрын
lol no, not all of you beautiful stop this. This plastic words creates girls look like Super Mario and full off ego.
@Kiwi403
@Kiwi403 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely said Mallory
@StuJones-gn7te
@StuJones-gn7te 16 күн бұрын
In this "struggle," maybe you should stop asking each other and actually ask men what they like?
@2wicebittten
@2wicebittten 6 жыл бұрын
I’m extremely skinny. I was born like that and there is nothing I can do. This is disgraceful. Am am not “quite literally dying”
@serena..
@serena.. 3 жыл бұрын
Why is everyone SO pressed omg
@rue.eudoxie
@rue.eudoxie 3 жыл бұрын
@@serena.. ur pressed tf i don’t see no one pressed
@a.r.375
@a.r.375 3 жыл бұрын
@@serena.. how are you not tf
@TiaraSinica
@TiaraSinica 3 жыл бұрын
SOCIETY SUCKS
@jwkoreaguy
@jwkoreaguy 8 күн бұрын
Video created by overweight person
@iamelfie
@iamelfie 6 жыл бұрын
Well now we are over here expected to be “slim thicc” hahaha ggiiirrlll how tf
@DirectorBird
@DirectorBird 5 жыл бұрын
The gluteus maximum is a muscle. And so is the breast mostly. They get bigger like any other muscle.
@emi_lyyyy
@emi_lyyyy 7 күн бұрын
@@DirectorBirdthe breats are NOT mostly a muscle 💀💀💀💀
@briannajohnson4459
@briannajohnson4459 2 жыл бұрын
Just love your body. Just cause your big, skinny, or curvy, you are beautiful. Instead of wanting something you don’t have, but thankful for what you have and make it beautiful
@Bepis432
@Bepis432 7 жыл бұрын
why is everyone freaking out about an ancient sculpture of a fat woman that was not the point of this video please calm down
@Emma-zp1mz
@Emma-zp1mz 5 жыл бұрын
I’m not freaking out about that, I’m upset about the ‘literally dying’ skinny That’s so rude and just not fair If they said literally dying for the obese first one people would be going mental
@ioncekilledamanwithmyshoe
@ioncekilledamanwithmyshoe 5 жыл бұрын
Bun Bun the “point of the video” doesn’t matter here, it’s what they said that I have an issue with. They said that the statue of the obese woman was healthy but then they go on to say that the skinny girl was “literally dying”, wtf?!
@StuJones-gn7te
@StuJones-gn7te 16 күн бұрын
No, but the video clearly stated that this was supposedly the ideal woman of it's time. We don't know that. Maybe a woman or child made it. A self portrait or image of mommy.
@NicoleTunis
@NicoleTunis 7 жыл бұрын
perfect is being happy and healthy
@ugharmysareeverywhere-6978
@ugharmysareeverywhere-6978 6 жыл бұрын
Nicole Tunis nope
@sarahosis
@sarahosis 3 жыл бұрын
@@ugharmysareeverywhere-6978 what
@darcyexe3752
@darcyexe3752 3 жыл бұрын
@@ugharmysareeverywhere-6978 what??
@phoebesparks6209
@phoebesparks6209 7 жыл бұрын
The pro obese message has reached this channel too! The first statue - "a healthy stomach" darlin, a healthy stomach doesn't look like a gym ball
@gachavids-402
@gachavids-402 5 жыл бұрын
mild.b0i true
@rue.eudoxie
@rue.eudoxie 3 жыл бұрын
Dude they are just trying to say what was knows as healthy back then u guys misunderstood that
@domesticpartypeep
@domesticpartypeep Жыл бұрын
@@rue.eudoxie no, they said she were healthy
@StuJones-gn7te
@StuJones-gn7te 16 күн бұрын
Apparently women have heard this message. The average American woman now weighs 170 lbs. That's at least 30 lbs overweight.
@theman9048
@theman9048 7 жыл бұрын
they should change the title to European beauty throughout history
@theman9048
@theman9048 7 жыл бұрын
+Summer Nights English is spoken in several countries and people interested in this subject are curious about the world so they need to clarify what they were talking about.
@theman9048
@theman9048 7 жыл бұрын
+Summer Nights more people speak English in India then in England the same for USA which is multicultural. Once again when you say through out time you are pointing to the world. so this was dumb and should be renamed.
@theman9048
@theman9048 7 жыл бұрын
+Summer Nights that is stupid. If I say I am going to do a list of the richest people on earth because I am speaking English I can only present Westerners?
@InanisNihil
@InanisNihil 6 жыл бұрын
europeans like it or not share basically the same standards as the aisns and middle eastern nations did.. the not poor places of the world.. like africa and south america were... were food was an issue... were they competed against wild animals for food due to lack of agriculture... being attracted to bigger bodies seems just like a survival adaptation by evolution.. its common knowledge that being heavy was a sign of high statues in these places.. in places were food was not an issue... big bodies were not attractive... as of now... south america and Africa... bigger bodies is seen as most attractive.. in asian middle east and europe slender bodies is the thing... America is unique.. it has the resources and wealth of the europeans asians and middle easterns but has a high desire for "thicc" then them why cause south american and black culture mixed with industrialized worlds.. in short the desires of both worlds mixed here in the US...
@hydrolito
@hydrolito 4 жыл бұрын
There is another video about beauty standards around the world.
@aliyahpark7827
@aliyahpark7827 4 жыл бұрын
Being thin doesnt mean you are dying ok
@MaeCarlton
@MaeCarlton 7 жыл бұрын
That's a healthy stomach?! I must be anorexic!!
@jules-wu5ow
@jules-wu5ow 4 жыл бұрын
being skinny isn’t dying I swear😭🤚
@SumthingFrench
@SumthingFrench 7 жыл бұрын
tbh "thicc" means to have ONLY a big butt, big breast, and wide hips. You need have a flat stomach, thigh gap, skinny arms, etc.
@safiazad2865
@safiazad2865 5 жыл бұрын
And I find it impossible , how could you have big butt with small waist ! Even lifting heavy will not give u the body goal shape !
@DaisiesInMercury
@DaisiesInMercury 4 жыл бұрын
@@safiazad2865 Actually it's very possible. Genes, working out and eating healthy. I actually have that body type naturally and so many women do too.
@safiazad2865
@safiazad2865 4 жыл бұрын
@@DaisiesInMercury yep you can be gifted but you cannot change your body shape except surgery ...
@MJ-je9mz
@MJ-je9mz 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao thigh gap and thick thighs ..
@fartgirl6284
@fartgirl6284 4 жыл бұрын
Safia Zad so it’s not impossible- u literally just contradicted urself
@Bepis432
@Bepis432 7 жыл бұрын
omg I'm in love with the 50's and 60's look because those women had healthy curves and weren't too thin I think Marilyn Monroe its a picture perfect vision of beauty I mean I can't believe that she would be considered "plus sized" today ❤❤ she had perfect hips and her stomach wasn't super thin but not too big either 😍
@Stinoco
@Stinoco 7 жыл бұрын
Bun Bun she was thin and the girl said it, her BMI was under the average woman's BMI
@NerdGeekOficial
@NerdGeekOficial 7 жыл бұрын
Steve Tinoco She had what looked like a healthy body, I guess that's what Bun Bun is saying
@noemistephanie93
@noemistephanie93 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah she was gorgeous!
@kachyn_
@kachyn_ 6 жыл бұрын
How the hell is that plus sized?? 😕
@TheMatthess
@TheMatthess 7 жыл бұрын
"You can't fend off a tiger by batting your eyes" Lol you won't outrun it with that bid either.
@amyp2063
@amyp2063 7 жыл бұрын
I go by my own standards not everybody else's. I'm comfortable in my own skin. Too bad many people are trying to go by what other people think, and it's sad.
@pablothebeardieandisabelth8481
@pablothebeardieandisabelth8481 6 жыл бұрын
Amy P right!!!!!! Amen ........i do the same thing you do
@Ishisah
@Ishisah 7 жыл бұрын
-"A healthy stomach." -So being obese is healthy? [Rhetorical--don't answer.] -Trying desperately not to fat shame--boring.
@Ishisah
@Ishisah 7 жыл бұрын
+Anika You're fat. Aren't you? :( )))
@christmastiger
@christmastiger 7 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the person that sculpture was based on has been dead for 20,000 years so you don't have worry about them being fat-shamed.
@Cupcakesmakemesmile3
@Cupcakesmakemesmile3 7 жыл бұрын
bruh..
@ugharmysareeverywhere-6978
@ugharmysareeverywhere-6978 6 жыл бұрын
Sah. B. Omg, obiously it's not healthy. But people in that time they didn't havr enough food. So they consider overweight people healthy and attractive. Deal with it.
@StuJones-gn7te
@StuJones-gn7te 16 күн бұрын
That old sculpture MIGHT be a goddess or an ideal woman. It might also be a self portrait or an image of Mommy carved by a 10 year old. Maybe a guy found a rock and thought "I can carve a mouth on that." Maybe its an image of their Devil or a witch.
@natashamatticks1525
@natashamatticks1525 5 жыл бұрын
You described the bigger ideals as full and voluptuous and strong but the second it’s a skinny ideal we are sickly and weak. What the actual hell.
@ignaciob5203
@ignaciob5203 3 жыл бұрын
She is uninformed that's all , seems like she never heard about somatotypes or the very term ectomorph . l know I'm not a woman to comment on this but as a skinny guy with an even skinnier brother that has the same weight as some of those skinny models , we aren't literally dying , we are ectomorphs , that's all .
@ignaciob5203
@ignaciob5203 3 жыл бұрын
I literally hate this , is not about big vs skinny is about knowing that somatotypes and genes exist . Nobody chose to be skinny or big we just are what we are and it's impossible to change our type by eating more or eating less .
@StuJones-gn7te
@StuJones-gn7te 16 күн бұрын
A 120-130 lb woman is not generally skinny.
@cestmagnifique7932
@cestmagnifique7932 7 жыл бұрын
I saw a girl in the street.. to me her body looked far from perfect, however she walked so confidently and clearly proudly of herself, that made me think.. isn't that how all of us should be like? We should be after health and self development, not comparison and competition and moulding to delusional standards.
@Kiwi403
@Kiwi403 2 жыл бұрын
Relaxed confidence is the biggest beauty asset.
@ohnorenna
@ohnorenna 7 жыл бұрын
Casually waiting for skinny to come back in style again because my stupid metabolism won't let me become "thick"
@Billybob-ig3vs
@Billybob-ig3vs 6 жыл бұрын
lolicoa its is in style its just the dumbass pop culture that makes you think being thick is hot but its not
@nadianajmi35
@nadianajmi35 6 жыл бұрын
Billy bob well it actually is hot because women are supposed to have curves not to be thin as a pencil
@Billybob-ig3vs
@Billybob-ig3vs 6 жыл бұрын
Nadia Najmi she said skinny not " thin as a pencil" and the more healthy body is the most attractive so some fat is good but being overweight will never be attractive
@mariam-ci5hh
@mariam-ci5hh 6 жыл бұрын
Nadia Najmi no woman is supposed to have any curve...stop forcing this bs upon us...gosh just when will this trend die?
@mariam-ci5hh
@mariam-ci5hh 6 жыл бұрын
Billy bob lmao who hurt you???are you ok???
@clockworkorange3994
@clockworkorange3994 7 жыл бұрын
ancient greeks believed that redheads were caursed from Gods
@zinniaapplebaum2260
@zinniaapplebaum2260 7 жыл бұрын
What did they know about it? I love red hair!
@clockworkorange3994
@clockworkorange3994 7 жыл бұрын
Zinnia Applebaum me too I wish I had red hair and freakles...
@joanna_.s
@joanna_.s 6 жыл бұрын
straw-Barry Same
@chloeparent3044
@chloeparent3044 6 жыл бұрын
Red hair is beautiful
@hydrolito
@hydrolito 4 жыл бұрын
Red heads were popular in Ireland and northern Europe. Why do some show Zeus as having red hair?
@aliceroszkowski4033
@aliceroszkowski4033 5 жыл бұрын
One direction told me that I'm beautiful That's the only information that I need
@annikaagresti6782
@annikaagresti6782 6 жыл бұрын
they said more body types are accepted in 2017 … but i feel like with the rise of social media beauty standards are constantly shoved in your face more so than ever
@alysiamonet
@alysiamonet 7 жыл бұрын
this era of a love for curvy figures and tan skin came from an admiration of afro american women lets be real.
@Shortywithbrains
@Shortywithbrains 7 жыл бұрын
My hips, and my ass are curvy, and I can honestly say I have never been African American.
@anna7b
@anna7b 7 жыл бұрын
alysiamonet As a Puerto Rican with a curvy butt and naturally tan skin, I don't think that is the reason why.
@shadowboxing7029
@shadowboxing7029 7 жыл бұрын
Lol now that is both ignorant and arrogant. That might be the case in the US, but not the rest of the world. Maybe you should learn a little something about other countries outside of the US.
@littleteapot6889
@littleteapot6889 7 жыл бұрын
Define Puerto Rican because that isn't a race.
@fudhaf
@fudhaf 7 жыл бұрын
thats the twitter era sweetie
@rainraihan9681
@rainraihan9681 4 жыл бұрын
"Large breasts . . . Large Hips . . . _and a healthy stomach_ . . . " - Nothing healthy about a fat stomach.
@robinrehlinghaus1944
@robinrehlinghaus1944 3 жыл бұрын
Depends of course, but this one certainly does not look healthy
@honeheke4554
@honeheke4554 2 жыл бұрын
It was probably the "impossible beauty standard" of the day, back in the time of scarce food and low calories. No doubt the skinny chicks back then were whining about "unrealistic expectations".
@SynergyCeleste
@SynergyCeleste 6 жыл бұрын
Again the word "PETITE" is misused... Petite is french for SHORT, not thin or small! You can't be a tall model and be Petite! That is an Oxymoron. Today, Petite women's clothing is for women between 5-4 and 4-10.
@HG-qo9cx
@HG-qo9cx 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I agree with the message, the reality is that the terms ‘love’, ‘compassion’ and ‘tolerance’ have been so perverted in today’s society. All to the point of the media pushing obesity as the new standard of a healthy body. This is no better than anorexia.
@nymphrodellsalavin
@nymphrodellsalavin 2 жыл бұрын
Obesity isn't necessarily unhealthy, it's far more complicated than that. Yes, eating unhealthily is bad as it can lead to high blood pressure and sugar, but there is no significant medical evidence linking subcutaneous fat (the squishy fat that's found across your entire body) to negative health effects. Meanwhile visceral fat (the hard fat that grows around your organs) has clear medical evidence supporting serious medical complications.
@kaylakelley1457
@kaylakelley1457 7 жыл бұрын
I love this!
@igotreveluvexo-lblinkarmy4140
@igotreveluvexo-lblinkarmy4140 7 жыл бұрын
I think for these countries are The UK, ( maybe USA ), The Netherlands, Greece, France, Italy ( spanish??? ) and German? In the really old time
@trizzytanya3287
@trizzytanya3287 6 жыл бұрын
Nah to the spanish culture (atleast latin) it was always a fuller curvier fertile look
@siiluviilu
@siiluviilu 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's the majority of europe actually.
@hailey1215
@hailey1215 7 жыл бұрын
Today it's thick girls with a small waist😂
@curbsideprophet6769
@curbsideprophet6769 7 жыл бұрын
Philosophers, historians, etc. have all said #1 (Venus of Willendorf) WAS NOT a body ideal. It's a small charm (no bigger than a hand) women in Ice Age tribes carried/wore to be more fertile. Do your research please. Anything can be used as fact if you leave enough of the info out that counteracts your claim.
@tylajohn6945
@tylajohn6945 6 жыл бұрын
Marilyn Monroe was considered the world sexist women - remember this. Monroe also had stomach roles (so did the sculptures of Greek goddesses) :)
@sharathch1800
@sharathch1800 5 жыл бұрын
Humans never get satisfied with particular "Look" style. They adore a style for certain period and then move onto next.. Years later, they arrive on 1st style where it all began.. And wheel rolls on again... It's a never ending chaos
@chrystynamohr2492
@chrystynamohr2492 6 жыл бұрын
These body types are based on eupeaon and American body types,which I think everyone is beautiful in their own ways
@miafuentes5075
@miafuentes5075 4 жыл бұрын
she’s misused the “literally dying” some people naturally are thin, but kate moss smoked instead of eating and did drugs for weight loss too, that’s the difference.
@camilleturney6671
@camilleturney6671 7 жыл бұрын
The statue was a "little bit" heavy😂
@harleenquinzel3442
@harleenquinzel3442 6 жыл бұрын
True beauty is when you truly accept how you look, and make not only yourself feel good, but others around you as well.
@blinkybli8326
@blinkybli8326 7 жыл бұрын
Since we have little understanding of how statuettes like the Venus of Willendorf were used by the people who made them, we cannot assume that they reflect that culture's ideals of beauty. For all we know, the statuettes could have been used to ward off evil -- in other words, the people who made them might have thought that they looked so terrifying that evil and bad luck would turn away after looking upon them. The statuette doesn't even have a face. Are we to believe that the people who made them thought faceless people were the ideal of beauty? Until we know more about how, why and when these statuettes were used -- which might never happen -- let's be careful about reading our cultural practices and views into another culture.
@graffitiwomen
@graffitiwomen Жыл бұрын
I think they meant a body ideal, and being a bit overweight back then would've been a good thing. You didn't know if your crop wouldn't reach harvest, or if a drought came. There were so many unknown variables, I'm willing to bet that having extra weight was indeed seen as being beneficial to survival. Being 'thin' in the way western cultures perceive/d as beauty over the last 150-200 years ago is a relatively new thing. If you don't know where or when (with certainty) your next meal is coming from, anyone could deduce that having some extra weight would be good for your survival. There's also(of course) some racism in the beauty ideal of thinness. Cultural hegemony dictates what we see as beauty. I'm not advocating for living or eating unhealthy, I just think it's easy enough to see that the Venus of Willendorf statue makes sense from a biological and evolutionary perspective. You can't have a baby if you're starving to death. That's just a simple fact.
@specializedchemicals6669
@specializedchemicals6669 7 жыл бұрын
A fit stomach, small breast and a small waist is my ideal body type. No offense to thicker women. Its just my preference.
@judgementkazzy1750
@judgementkazzy1750 6 жыл бұрын
To me it seems that people like you are rare.
@user-fz8fz1cg1r
@user-fz8fz1cg1r 5 жыл бұрын
So u like boxed shape women
@anonmous4468
@anonmous4468 5 жыл бұрын
Ꭵ'ᗰ ᗩ ᕼᑌᗰᗩᑎ ᗷᗴᗴᗴᎥᑎǤ calling someone ‘box shaped’ is just as offensive as one calling thicker woman beach ball shaped.
@trixieagustina6163
@trixieagustina6163 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-fz8fz1cg1r You're so damn rude. And having a small waist actually prevents you from looking "box shaped".
@Fatima-ox1el
@Fatima-ox1el 3 жыл бұрын
5:36 that's Timothee Chalamet right there
@Tsumami__
@Tsumami__ 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Kate Moss was far from dying. Her body was an still is amazing.
@CaprishaPage
@CaprishaPage 7 жыл бұрын
I like your channel, but I LOVE the way you presented this information. Thank you!
@faye2391
@faye2391 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, you guys I guess I’m “dying” because my metabolism is really fast.
@xjoxjox5137
@xjoxjox5137 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone remember this No one is more beautiful than someone else, We are alllllk beautiful And there is no such thing as perfection😀
@DJ-vg1pr
@DJ-vg1pr 7 жыл бұрын
XJoxJoX Thats not true at all.
@ratnabasnet2440
@ratnabasnet2440 7 жыл бұрын
XJoxJoX but if everyone beautiful that mean we all average
@shaiwittles7266
@shaiwittles7266 6 жыл бұрын
If there is no such thing as perfection explain Shrek
@edronc2007
@edronc2007 6 жыл бұрын
Politically correct crap.
@pablothebeardieandisabelth8481
@pablothebeardieandisabelth8481 6 жыл бұрын
XJoxJoX nice wording......😊😊😊
@diboto7523
@diboto7523 5 жыл бұрын
I don't give a damn what the "standard" is. The problem is when people start pressuring others and themselves to be the "standard."
@joshdavies9055
@joshdavies9055 7 жыл бұрын
A perfect body type is unobtainable to most but being overweight is still unhealthy and not beautiful whatever era.
@ilahildasissac1943
@ilahildasissac1943 2 жыл бұрын
Neither is starving yourself. Both are bad.
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 7 жыл бұрын
Well, this "Venus of Willendorf" or whatever they're calling it right now, they found those statues all over stone age Europe and they don't know exactly what they were for. Some do think it was the idealized female form at the time. Others think it represents the earth or fertility. It was probably more of an ancient good luck charm than a an ancient Playboy magazine.
@rainbowteen7120
@rainbowteen7120 4 жыл бұрын
What wrong with this girl talking about skinny people like skinny shaming isn't a thing
@menafisk
@menafisk 4 жыл бұрын
I’m all about empowering women and making them feel good, but I don’t think making people who are obese is good. I understand some people are big boned but there’s a difference between healthy and obese.
@chl0beary
@chl0beary 4 жыл бұрын
So glad that we are slowly accepting different body types
@Moonie_MonRozE
@Moonie_MonRozE 3 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised the kardashians weren’t mentioned here they definitely made an impact on things or even Jlo
@bro_izzy
@bro_izzy 5 жыл бұрын
If everyone's beautiful, none one is.
@mole62ssf
@mole62ssf 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you for this exploration of beauty. Not merely an exploration, but an explanation as well. I hadn't put some of the historical realities together with what I knew of body type ideals. Well done.
@samiam4610
@samiam4610 3 жыл бұрын
My mom would've been seen as beautiful in Ancient Greece, she's a fair skinned redhead with a fuller figure, and her name is a Greek word for Princess:)
@ang.elicaril
@ang.elicaril Жыл бұрын
lets just ignore the constant skinny shaming in this vid
@idkbro_2126
@idkbro_2126 3 жыл бұрын
And now the beauty standard is an hourglass body shape. But an extremely small waist, no hip-dips, big doll eyes, perfect nose, plump lips, rosy cheeks, hair with volume. Why is this generation so complicated 😭😭
@peterlustig6888
@peterlustig6888 3 жыл бұрын
Just do regular sports, maybe lift some weight and train your behind. Men dont care for hip dips or something, but being sporty is healthy and attractive.
@fairybl00d25
@fairybl00d25 3 жыл бұрын
its more like feline eyes
@Tsumami__
@Tsumami__ 6 жыл бұрын
“Women” in the renaissance era weren’t based off of FEMALE models, it wasn’t that they were “imagined”. That’s why they had grotesque reubenesque bodies. Because they were actually heavy set men.
@janibii_608
@janibii_608 4 жыл бұрын
um... Your rly wrong on the venus statues. We don't know what they mean or were used for, everything is just guessing but those are all biased by our modern culture and ideas. So pls don't say they were the "ideal figure of the time" since that's inaccurate.
@bonniehowell4259
@bonniehowell4259 6 жыл бұрын
Vanity sizing plays a major role in morphing what women consider as "ideal" sizing. They say Monroe was a size 12. However, standard dress patterns were more universal in the 50-60's . A size 6 was considered as "small" and a 4 was "tiny". Drop vanity sizing and that will show what true sizes women are.
@TiredHumanBeing
@TiredHumanBeing 4 жыл бұрын
This video is kind of dumb. Sex symbols of the 50's wouldn't be considered plus sized. Marilyn Monroe was a size 4-6. Where did they get their information from?!
@rebeccacruz5697
@rebeccacruz5697 7 жыл бұрын
The ending reminded me of the video killing us softly lol good video 👍🏼😌
@feeddattboii
@feeddattboii 6 жыл бұрын
Becky Cruz uhh
@emilianol.6610
@emilianol.6610 5 жыл бұрын
What if someone 25000 thousand years ago made a fat sculpture as a joke like, Person 25000 thousand years ago: *HAHA look at this fat sculpture isn't that weird, this won't probably be used as a example for what we liked.*
@jacobitewiseman3696
@jacobitewiseman3696 4 жыл бұрын
It's called fashion. Biologically we were created to be attracted to more curvy bods. Skinny was only because female form was hated or because of the flappers.
@dannylebrown2397
@dannylebrown2397 7 жыл бұрын
I feel recently its been skinny skinny skinny skinny and now its curvy/thick
@tonyabeane8297
@tonyabeane8297 4 жыл бұрын
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Confidence goes a long way and the way you carry yourself can be just as sexy.
@Sabiqoon-w8y
@Sabiqoon-w8y Жыл бұрын
No ! That’s what ugly people tell themselves
@emelinmorales4044
@emelinmorales4044 7 жыл бұрын
I wish the beauty standard was still skinny like the 90's or like the 50's (not skinny but one of the best eras for body)
@UX2-_-
@UX2-_- 5 жыл бұрын
The perfect body is the healthy body .
@teyasaadeh2313
@teyasaadeh2313 6 жыл бұрын
"Healthy stomach"
@munchiesgaming3067
@munchiesgaming3067 7 жыл бұрын
Beauty is defined by the soul.The ability to show sympathy ,empathy. Being able to show love openly.The ability to see past the outer of other humans.Yea my lady isn't fat so people may say I'm a hypocrite. But hell when i found her she looked like a hobo.I met her looking like someone that had a masive hangover. But when we started talking and her heart opened up.I melt. People stop caring about that flab or bicep looking a bit sad.Be healthy but dont go out of your way trying to look like a super model.We're all human .We come in different shapes and sizes.Accept yourself and before judging that chubby girl or dude , just talk to them and find out what's their heart like.And fall in love with the person not the persons body...
@rachelwiesner2389
@rachelwiesner2389 7 жыл бұрын
if you are bigger there is just more of you to love
@sav.5492
@sav.5492 7 жыл бұрын
Summer Nights Buzzkill.
@millintribe6997
@millintribe6997 7 жыл бұрын
Men in general don't like fat woman
@dadadunlol6079
@dadadunlol6079 7 жыл бұрын
you mean less because you'll die earlier
@carlostorres8771
@carlostorres8771 6 жыл бұрын
Rachel Wiesner stfu
@bow4769
@bow4769 6 жыл бұрын
D i a b e t e s
@farahzulfiqar9305
@farahzulfiqar9305 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect is an illusion which no one can attain❤️
@masonsillin102
@masonsillin102 7 жыл бұрын
I think you should be happy with the body you have but you don't have to be if you think be twenty pounds lighter would make you look good then do it as long as it's safe don't become unhealthy skinny and don't be unhealthy fat ether but I think guys should be able to say I like women who are skinny or have some muscle and women can say I want a guy who is ripped or skinny or tall that's ok and shouldn't be looked at as body shaming telling someone they have to change is bad for both your body and your ideals but encouraging someone to become skinner as a guy who has had friends do this it's the best feeling in the world to lose ten pounds
@walinut6443
@walinut6443 6 жыл бұрын
In someone's eyes, you're beautiful. Always remember that. You're beautiful in your own type of way.
@kiwi_in_sylvania5449
@kiwi_in_sylvania5449 6 жыл бұрын
"A big HEALTHY body"????
@saana5422
@saana5422 5 жыл бұрын
Ikr, the first statue was dangerously obese
@dyiaramsamaroo7875
@dyiaramsamaroo7875 7 жыл бұрын
Wonderful videos posted.I enjoyed all .
@guckmub4779
@guckmub4779 7 жыл бұрын
Stop saying that The Venus of Willendorf had a "Healthy" husk or whatever to it, that thing looked caked full of lard. Nothing about it's body showed that it was healthy, just because the thing never missed a meal doesn't mean it was healthy. We all know that eating certain things can be unhealthy, so being fat doesn't tell us that it was a healthy body being represented in the figure or whatever
@pablothebeardieandisabelth8481
@pablothebeardieandisabelth8481 6 жыл бұрын
Brennen Warnes remember they didnt have all the unhealthy foods we did..........
@vaaance710
@vaaance710 8 ай бұрын
Honestly the ancient Greece knew what's good. They approached everything scientifically, including beauty; and they celebrated sports and fitness of the body; when it comes to artistic portraits (sculptures, etc.), they celebrated realism. As a result, they had beauty standards that look healthy, decently athletic, and with golden ratio, not too fat not too thin.
@brontide.
@brontide. 7 жыл бұрын
I just want to feel comfortable in my own skin
@pablothebeardieandisabelth8481
@pablothebeardieandisabelth8481 6 жыл бұрын
Rune Estas same
@diculis5432
@diculis5432 5 жыл бұрын
Why is everyone saying thin woman are treated unfairly in this, if your thin you don’t understand how much easier it is to you then for overweight people. Overweight people are insulted daily wether it’s behind there back or right in there face so sure this video more represents the curvy side but thin people are represented everyday
@shamrock141
@shamrock141 5 жыл бұрын
Thin women put a lot of work into being thin it's by no means a privilege. They put in the effort
@diculis5432
@diculis5432 5 жыл бұрын
Gavan Schultz i know how much effort goes into being thin considering i weighed 30 pounds heavier then i do some months ago but that doesnt change the fact that overweight people just dont know how to fix an issue and they get insulted for it unfairly
@shamrock141
@shamrock141 5 жыл бұрын
@@diculis5432 I'm not argueing against the poor treatment fat people get they don't deserve it. However I find it highly unjustified and hypocritical that many fat people criticise thin people for being "lucky" and "you don't know what it's like" because that implies that thin people were always just thin and never had to work to be that way
@yeah6281
@yeah6281 7 жыл бұрын
Perfect is an illusion(illusion) haha typo
@sertdemir7138
@sertdemir7138 3 жыл бұрын
And illusian is perfect thing to look into beauty in it.
@ouf._.1305
@ouf._.1305 7 жыл бұрын
Everyone Is Beautiful As They Are No Matter Who You Are
@SomeoneI1
@SomeoneI1 5 жыл бұрын
obese- healthy skinny- Quite literally dying
@pepeseyelash4217
@pepeseyelash4217 7 жыл бұрын
She didn't want to say fat, she was trying to be nice. I'm happy for you thought that your smart enough to tell the difference from heavy and light
@pepeseyelash4217
@pepeseyelash4217 7 жыл бұрын
*though
@aurora-l2g
@aurora-l2g 4 жыл бұрын
0:49 So we're calling this healthy? Wow I thought a flat stomach was healthy not an obese one. Smh... 🤦🤦🤦
@Punaniidasanii
@Punaniidasanii 4 жыл бұрын
3:03 IS THAT KLAUS FROM THE UMBRELLA ACADEMY ON THE LEFT??? 👁👄👁
@nicimouse3151
@nicimouse3151 7 жыл бұрын
Okay.. let me just make.. a time machine... back to... umm the 1920's?
@nennetbenavides432
@nennetbenavides432 7 жыл бұрын
Nici Mouse same
@cinnamonrolls9481
@cinnamonrolls9481 6 жыл бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻
@cemcfarlin
@cemcfarlin 5 жыл бұрын
Who decides all this? In nearly every culture, men determined the ideals of beauty and desirability. Women very rarely determined their image.
@idontgiveafaboutyou
@idontgiveafaboutyou 3 жыл бұрын
Nowadays they do it
@zahrahossainian2268
@zahrahossainian2268 7 жыл бұрын
Lol this is just western beauty/body standards. Fun fact: around 200 years ago, the Persians liked obese women with thick monoeyebrows and moustaches lol. Women would be close to 300 pounds and draw on a unibrow
@Tsumami__
@Tsumami__ 6 жыл бұрын
Our obsession with not being fat started thousands of years ago. Fat has only been popular a few random times in history when huge suedes of the world were starving and going through famine. And even then, it wasn’t predominantly accepted.
@dia_1029
@dia_1029 5 жыл бұрын
Healthy stomch more like a poteto with a head
@diggygorgonzola3467
@diggygorgonzola3467 5 жыл бұрын
The Greeks had the greatest depiction of what the female body actually looks like
@idontgiveafaboutyou
@idontgiveafaboutyou 3 жыл бұрын
The female body doesn’t have a specific look though
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