THELMA & LOUISE 4K UHD BLU-RAY REVIEW

This is a 4K UHD review of the recent Criterion release of Ridley's Scott's 1991 classic 'Thelma & Louise'. Image aspect ratio is approximately 2.35:1 and the sound is DTS-HD 5.1. Running time is 2 hours and ten minutes. 4K disc has also had Dolby Vision for those with systems suitable equipped but in here I watched with standard HDR which provided a beautifully filmic presentation.
Also included in this video is the previous Blu-ray release and the NTSC LaserDisc which we've owned since 1994. The previous Blu-ray contained all the extras of the new release with the exception of a couple of new interviews recorded especially for the Criterion release. These are on the first of the two Blu-rays included in the 4K pack which also contains the film in HD but taken from the same 4K master as the 4K disc.

[@1165mac]

Ahhh…Nancy Allen. I had the opportunity to meet and spend a little time with her on the set of Robocop 2 here in Houston. I was an extra for one night only. It’s 2:00 am, and she was alone listening to music on her Walkman. I bravely approached her and struck up a conversation. She was cool and obliged. I’m a big fan of 1941, and we mainly discussed her experience with it. “Lunch” was called and we walked over together. I also met Irvin Kershner briefly, but will always remember that conversation with Ms. Allen, seeing as I had a huge star crush on her for quite awhile.

[@moviecollector5920]

Somehow she didn't look so outstandingly attractive in the Robocop films. BLOW OUT was probably her best but 1941 is great too. Shame you didn't think to get her to sign a personal photograph for me!!! John.

[@1165mac]

@@moviecollector5920 Ha! I didn't even get an autograph myself. We were told not to ask. Agreed that she wasn't as attractive in those films. Maybe it was the short hair and police uniform. She was surprised I enjoyed 1941 so much, but appreciative.

[@444chroma]

some of the shots in Thelma and Louise are just gorgeous. really beautiful tones and landscape scenes

[@moviecollector5920]

And some of those best scenes in bright light as so clear. It's amazing how film grain minimizes in bright light. The colour of that Thunderbird probably helps too because it stands out so beautifully. John.

[@loekegaard9]

You come across as a true expert in film and home cinema projection - because you are. Yes, this is a truly great film. Erik.

[@jkoblivion4175]

100%

[@moviecollector5920]

That's two of us who agree about Thelma & Louise then Erik. A truly great film that some do seem to still misunderstand. John.

[@Celestialrob]

Thanks John, I worked on a commercial with Brad Pitt just before this was released. We then had the European premiere in Brussels at the Kinepolis (largest cinema in the world). Seem like yesterday - great movie - I have the Criterion and need to watch it!

[@moviecollector5920]

Oh what memories Rob. The gals all seem to love Brad Pitt in this one so I suppose he was destined to be a major star from the moment the cowboy hat went on his head. Enjoy the 4K. See if you find it as funny as I do nowadays. I laughed out loud throughout so much of it and where I didn't I'd be sniggering thinking back over all the crazy situations and brilliant one-liners. "You're standing in your pizza!" John.

[@jkoblivion4175]

After a hard day's work, i get notification that there's a new review up on Movie Collector channel. Always make my day. We (me and my wife) after getting home, open a bottle of wine and watch the review on tv screen using an app. there's nothing better :) Thx so much John. We both love your content. And yes , please John, a review on that Bolex M8 Paillard Projector 8MM Film.

[@moviecollector5920]

Thank you JK and to your wife too. I do want to get that Bolex 8mm projector running again so I'll dig out the power lead sometime soon. John.

[@danielparker3842]

Another brilliant review along with nice video editing and close-ups. I'm so excited as I have on order a Panasonic, new in the box, 4K player with Dolby Atmos. I previously ordered a refurbished model from eBay thinking I would save some money. Unfortunately it will not play 4k but does alright with blu-ray and DVD's. The seller apologized and said I could ship it back for refund or keep it and get a half price refund. I opted to keep it as it does play 3D brilliantly, so I will use it in my 3D TV room. The seller was very nice. My new player was bought from Best Buy on eBay. I have a Bose 900 Soundbar in my living room and sounds amazing. It should. It cost twice as much as my TV. LOL. Having a great sound is as important, if not more so, than the picture. Have a great day John.

[@moviecollector5920]

Evening Daniel. I hope the new player is a little more successful than the previous one but I'm sure it will be. John.

[@SB0780]

Love your videos. Great coverage. Thank you.

[@moviecollector5920]

Thank you Jay. Good to have you here. John.

[@paulcadman3562]

Great review John ,yet another great box set .

[@moviecollector5920]

And a great film too Paul. All of which makes for a top class release. John.

[@tullebob1683]

Thank you for this video and for sharing your knowledge.

[@moviecollector5920]

You're welcome Bob. John.

[@everygrainofsand]

Another great video, John. I appreciate the time and effort involved. It's a real treat whenever I see notification that there's a new video! And I mean this in the best way: keep 'em coming 🐵! Cheers, Lee

[@moviecollector5920]

Thank you Lee. I actually knocked this one out in a day so it wasn't quite the usual slog. John.

[@CeeJay591]

John, thank you for this review and sharing so much great information about this film - as for future projects, I for one would love to see that old 8mm projector in action.....

[@moviecollector5920]

Thank you Henry. I'd like to see that Bolex 8mm working again myself. I'll have to dig out the power lead and see if it still fires up sometime soon. John.

[@mirvmn2]

Great review John :) I really enjoy road films like Thelma & Louise and I've seen it a few times. The plot and acting are great and I like the strong friendship between the characters. Geena Davis and Susan Sarandon fit perfect in their roles and their performances are excellent. I highly recommend this film to anyone who hasn't seen it yet.

[@moviecollector5920]

Yet again we're on the same page. That Ridley Scott fellow certainly has churned out some great films. John.

[@alaindelacourt9030]

salut encore une belle revue sur se 4k et belle vidèo comme toujour

[@moviecollector5920]

Merci mon ami. John.

[@delboy3k1]

Hi my friend....no 1 spider-man fan here lol. Jokes aside, thanks for all you do. I regularly mention you in my blog as everyone should see your channel. I did a live stream on laurel and hardy in January for 3 hours. Love them. Yes please to your 8mm film of laurel and hardy we don't see the likes of them anymore. Excelsior sir

[@moviecollector5920]

I plan to dig out the power lead for that little Bolex 8mm so hopefully it's coming soon in a future video. Thank you for mentioning my channel. I need to find three hours to watch your L&H video sometime. John.

[@billg3356]

Nice video, John. I love Thelma & Louise; I think it's one of Ridley's best films. I saw it in the theater back in 1990, and that damn ending stuck with me for days. Speaking of which, Ridley should've held that shot for two or three more seconds, just to let the enormity of their decision really sink in. That quick fade-out has always bothered me. Other than that, it's pretty much a perfect film.

[@moviecollector5920]

Evening Bill. I really took that ending in this time and both my wife and I decided it was the best and only ending that would have been satisfactory. It may not be perfect but I feel that it is. Good job we're all different but I do think my opinion of that ending has improved over the past 30 years. John.

[@billg3356]

@@moviecollector5920 oh, it's a great ending. I just want that freeze-frame to last a few seconds longer to really let it all sink in.

[@moviecollector5920]

@@billg3356 I need to take another look at it Bill. Maybe it's fading out in time to the music which an important editing consideration because if you get that wrong then it can stick out like a sore thumb. John.

[@cheekster777]

Thank you John.

[@moviecollector5920]

Well done Cheekster. John.

[@Juanjo-oi2or]

Hello, John. Love this film, among the best Ridley Scott has directed. Story, acting and directing are brilliant, a wonderful one. I have to keep my old blu ray in a safe place..... don't believe that we will see this 4k release for these old lands of Spain.... Nice job as usual and a pleasure watch your review.

[@moviecollector5920]

It might make it over Juanjo... then again, probably only through an importer. John.

[@GilesMUTUBE]

Laural and Hardy, standard 8, yes please!

[@moviecollector5920]

I've got to dig out the power lead Giles and then I'll give it a go so consider it done and coming soon in a future video. John.

[@GilesMUTUBE]

great tahnks!@@moviecollector5920

[@darkpoethd9913]

I bought this day one and it's a beautiful release of a beautiful film, and oh that score, I really hope all Criterion's future releases will be packaged like this going forward....My movie quote for you to work out follows...."Sometimes dead is better" .... 🤔

[@moviecollector5920]

I agree, the music is absolutely perfect. What a wonderful soundtrack to accompany this great movie road trip across the West. As for the movie quote, Pet Sematary. Just don't bury a black cat in there! John.

[@cheekster777]

I watched an original release print of this movie before it opened nationwide. Not sure I’ve watched it since so shall certainly be checking out this 4K UHD Blu-ray release soon.

[@moviecollector5920]

I expect you'll like the film a lot more than you even did in 1991 Cheekster as it's aged particularly well. The 4K is probably better than a 35mm general release print too. And for just £30. John.

[@CastlesForEyes]

Would be great to finally see that little Laurel and Hardy film running. Great video as usual John, always enjoy seeing a bit of love for the Laserdisc format.

[@moviecollector5920]

I dug out the power lead for that little Bolex yesterday Stephen. I powered the projector up and had it running but I haven't dared to fire up the lamp yet. I'm hoping to do that today with the camera running so we'll see what happens. If the national news reports a nuclear explosion somewhere in Wiltshire then I think you'll know that it didn't go well!!! John.

[@CastlesForEyes]

@@moviecollector5920 ~ 😅 Fingers crossed 🤞

[@moviecollector5920]

@@CastlesForEyes Just finished recording video. Did the Bolex M8 with the Laurel and Hardy and then put up a lovely, late edition Silma Super 8 to run the opening of 1941. COMING SOON to a KZbin channel near you! John.

[@CastlesForEyes]

@@moviecollector5920 ~ That Bolex is little beauty. Looking forward to seeing your video when it's ready.

[@RoyMurphy1]

Sounds like a pickup for me..... thanks for sharing John 👍

[@moviecollector5920]

I'd always thought Thelma & Louise was a hugely popular film Roy but the box office take rather surprised me. No doubt it actually did better on home video over the years. John.

[@MadMartysMovieReviews-gv6hk]

Evening John, another excellent review...big fan of Thelma And Louise, looks like an excellent edition 😊

[@moviecollector5920]

It's the cinema in your home for just £30 Marty. I find I'm getting increasingly impressed with what we're being offered on 4K home video discs. Who ever would have thunk that home video would be this good? John.

[@JimAllder11]

Really wish this had been posted before the Criterion sale. I definitely would have picked it up. (*I purchased Time Bandits and Akira Kurosawa's Dreams, both in 4K) In any case, thanks for this review. It's nice to have this information. I've been waiting for Thelma & Louise to return to a home video release that better resembles the original theatrical release, for many years. And I will definitely pick this up, at the next opportunity.

[@moviecollector5920]

The Blu-ray from years ago is very good Jim but it's not accurate in terms of colour. At least, I don't consider it to be. It's just too saturated. The 4K looks like a 35mm master print would have done as far as I'm concerned. John.

[@davemillage6129]

Hi John! Yes please from me.. would love to see a bit of this reel if possible? Been awhile since I've seen Thelma and Louise so after this I will revisit. I like that you see it as comedic because I do remember the theme of abuse and neglect etc then having the friends just dart off and end up committed to evading Harvey Keitel...... well just a great film and a historic finale.... Really want to see this again now so perhaps in 4k haha (and mentioning the American west highways and such ...would be great to see it and experience the road movie in nice 4k .... My best to you guys over there Cheers Dave!!

[@moviecollector5920]

The composition of some of the shots to make the statement about the enormity of the American landscape is wonderful in this film. I think it sometimes takes a group of foreigners to focus in on a country when those of us who happen to live there may rather take it for granted. Then there's the music to accompany the great soundtrack. First class acting from everyone with some of the funny lines delivered so well that what could have been a bit of a drama based road trip adventure becomes a funny, entertaining work of art that is more repeatable than we ever really consider it to be. I could watch it again tonight and laugh through it all over again. There is so much going on at times that it takes multiple viewings to get the best out of it. Just look at Geena Davis's face when she'd chucking her luggage into the boot of the Thunderbird just before they head off. Susan Sarandon pulls a similar face when the boot is closing and Geena leans in to push the cases down. That sets things off if it hasn't been set off already. John.

[@andylindsey]

Great review. Glad to hear the 4K transfer turned out really well. Interesting comments on seeing the movie as a comedy. Considering the subject matter I always took this movie more seriously and always felt conflicted with character's choices as situations escalated. Maybe I will give it another watch with that in mind. Haven't seen this movie in years. I appreciate the comments about the soft focus shots. I think many of us are quick to blame those doing the transfers to 4K/Blu ray and we forget that even the professionals in Hollywood who make the movies can make mistakes that can impact the quality of a film image. I'm starting to think in similar when I watch movies, I feel that I am learning as I go along.

[@moviecollector5920]

The rape scene is hard hitting and difficult to watch Andy but that's just about it for serious matters in this one. I didn't fully take that in at first but every time I've watched it since I've found myself laughing more and more. I think it has some of the best lines in movie history with the ultimate being Harvey Keitel sniggering and telling Darryl, "You're standing in your pizza!" John.

[@spaceodds1985]

Nice video. Upgraded this film from DVD and the PQ is grain galore, particularly during the moment Keitel visits Daryl😂 Was lucky to see this in 35mm three or so years ago at the PCC.

[@moviecollector5920]

A lot of it is almost film grain free. It varies depended on location and light. John.

[@jeremyj.]

Greetings from Canada! 🇨🇦 bring on the M8! That would be a really cool video!

[@moviecollector5920]

I nearly got around to shooting video of the Bolex M8 yesterday Jeremy but after I set the Super 8 Elmo GS1200 HID I got a little too absorbed in that and that was the day gone! I'll get to it though, just got to dig out the power lead. John.

[@pieterbalk-ht7kq]

Dear John (remember that 1982 Status Quo song?😊) thanks for another great review @Movie Collector You perfectly into words what I often have: I watch the Blu Ray and see how beautiful my player upscales it and I think “this looks great, I don’t need the 4K”! Until…..I watch the 4K and think….”what have I been watching all those years”?😄😊 Had that most recently with Footloose and Lucy which I didn’t think I needed…..but I did.😊

[@moviecollector5920]

LUCY is a wonderful Blu-ray Pieter. It's an even better 4K. And I do remember that Status Quo cover of Dear John. I actually have the single right here... and the album from which it came. John.

[@fp30e]

Hi John, Thelma and Louise was a great movie. The scene where Louise tripped and fell when leaving the house was not scripted. She accidntly fell over and she carried on ad-libbing, Ridley left the scene in the film. Loved your review of the movie. I like the way you break down the technical side of the 3 formats. Very interesting. It would be good to see your standard 8mm projector with your L&H film running thru it on a future video. Excelklent video. Thank you. Spoolbox

[@moviecollector5920]

Evening Fred. I think that was Thelma's husband Darryl in the film who falls over backwards when about to get in his red Corvette Stingray but he continued and it was left in. I love the reaction of the two workers. A brilliant film through and through. I'm just sorry that I didn't see it at The Empire. I've get some video of that little 50ft 8mm reel running through the Bolex soon and include it in a future video. John.

[@fp30e]

@@moviecollector5920Yes you are so right John, it certainly was the husband (Stupid me)!!!! Take care.

[@LeShark75]

Hi John, just playing catch up on some of your recent videos here. I really cant wait for you to maybe cover Aliens, True Lies and The Abyss 4K UHD's in the future. I'm hearing mixed things at the moment but I really cant wait to get my hands on all three.

[@moviecollector5920]

Don't expect too much of Aliens because it's probably a bit of a grainy film if my Super 8 prints are anything to judge it by. I did see the 70mm blow-up at the Odeon three times but I don't recall much about how it looked other than when I later saw a 35mm general release print that was so disappointing by comparison. It might surprise us but I expect others will be claiming excessive image noise reduction without actually knowing enough about it. The Abyss isn't the best looking 35mm as it was a Super 35 then blown up to full frame anamorphic and does have computer effects in it which always means lower quality for those sequences. My Super 8 print of that is a beauty but with the limitations of the original film shoot. I only have True Lies on PAL LaserDisc but my recollection of that is that it's a bit of a stunner for LaserDisc. That one did not get a release on Super 8 but the trailer did and that again is a beauty. This should therefore be an indication that True Lies should be a fine grain, well defined original negative and hence another very good 4K. I don't plan to import a copy of The Abyss but I might get the other two. Whether or not I'll get all the way through Aliens I don't know but it will be a good excuse for another extensive Alien/Aliens film related video. I will always prefer to watch Aliens on film and that was and is the same with Alien so watching either on video would spoil the film experience a bit really. I did watch most of Alien on the 4K disc though - enough to do the review video three years ago. John.

[@grahambird4135]

I remember well projecting Thelma and Louise it was always more popular with women it was a girls night out at the pictures. I love Spielbergs 1941 always have, the 8mm 2 X 400 was one of my favourite’s and got a lot of runs not the best print from universal 8 but a great edit of the feature so I didn’t care. Spielbergs always said it was visually too loud for audiences I personally love the complete mayhem of the picture and destruction of pretty much everything, some superb model work I think the effects by A.D. Flowers are fab some of his best work. Not the complete box office disaster it was claimed to be… they got their money back, the John Williams score is brilliant I still play the soundtrack LP regular.

[@moviecollector5920]

I want to watch that 1941 2x400ft again Graham so that's probably a good indication of how much I enjoyed it. If I'd have had a copy back in 1980 it would have been run over and over again. It didn't look like a very good print to me either but I was impressed with the editing the same as you. John.

[@stephenfielding8914]

Funnily enough John, just ordered pizza… as well as the std 8 50ft reel on your Bolex, maybe you can review 1941 using your GS1200… cheers

[@moviecollector5920]

Evening Stephen. Well done for ordering that Laurel and Hardy reel. I'll shoot video of it going through and include it in a video sometime soon. The 1941 2x400ft needs another screening so I can gauge it all much better than first time around. I need to put it through one of the souped-up GS1200 projectors for superior light output. John.

[@jefffan171]

6:29 Well I have to admit I've never known any laserdisc player to feature such a button. Mind slightly blown away! I know that in the States Toshiba (I think) ran a limited edition offer with their late 90's rear protection TV'S and customers could get some WB studio Laserdiscs in 16:9 Anamorphic "enhanced" to watch on their new purchase The Fugitive , Free Willy and a couple of other titles. Never sold separately. However Japan, did get a good 12 (or more) "Squeezed" Anamorphic releases including T2, Stargate, Cliffhanger, Basic Instinct and other THX RE-RELEASE of T2 with the original Kodac 5.1 fold down to dolby AC-3 Dolby Digital. Which is one of the best mixes out of all the T2 collection. So what that button is doing? My guess? Taking the 16:9 image and unfolding it out for 4:3 screens if you happen to be that much into movies you have a new laserdisc player and bought an Anamorphic release from WB and didn't understand why everyone looks 6ft.6 and 2st light in the face. Love seeing the full history as always from Laserdisc to full fat 4k in the videos and the comparison to reflect 1080p vs 4k that it's not always a slam dunk with the HDR arsenal at the ready. Thanks again John and big ol' thums up!!!

[@moviecollector5920]

Evening Martyn. I was hoping we'd get more information back about anamorphic 16x9 LaserDiscs and you're the first so far. I didn't know about the WB releases but I did suspect that Japan had issued some. I'd like to get a few of those, particularly any with a THX badge on them. I haven't got a CRT telly to check the 16x9 button but my recollection is that in a 4x3 image it reduced the height but on my 1995 Philips Widescreen I can't recall if it worked the same way exactly as DVD. I don't suppose it was required because the telly 16x9 button would have done the same thing and simply unsqueezed the image. John.

[@jefffan171]

@@moviecollector5920 yep. Definitely not "the around £50 price" I remember from 20 years ago now

[@ethanthe4kcollector72]

Great video

[@moviecollector5920]

Thank you Ethan. John.

[@Justin-fy7xk]

Yes john would be nice to see laurel and hardy run on that projector and you film it. I was curious to know what 4k projector you use. I use a sim2 domino 4 for for 4k and i must say its superb. I do very rarely see a rainbow effect on the picture because its 1 chip instead of 3, but the fantastic picture quality makes up for that slight flaw. I also still have a sim2 lumis 3 chip 1080 projector which i alternate my viewing with the 2 projectors because they are great in their own ways.

[@moviecollector5920]

We've got a couple of 4K projectors now but one is used for the BFCC only at the moment so not getting a lot of use. The one hanging upside down and projecting through the wall is an Optoma UHZ50. The rainbow effect is there but not as much as the older projector which is the UHD550X from about six years ago. I plan to dig the power lead out for the 8mm projector and see if it's still all functional. The lamp might be 50 years old or more for all I know so there may be a loud bang when I fire it up! John.

[@deckard97]

Jason Beghe as the State Trooper very nearly stole the film-lol, He's done very well for himself on NBC's Chicago P.D Ms Sarandon worked for both Scott Brothers,how cool is that? love this film since may 1991

[@moviecollector5920]

And that rastafarian cyclist too, that was hilarious. John.

[@JimmyTheBear]

thanks mate

[@moviecollector5920]

Thank you Jimmy. John.

[@cliveallsop2490]

Hi John, Apparently every type of man is portrayed in this film and being as Harvey Keitel is the only decent one it doesn't leave a lot of room to manoeuvre. This was to be Ridley Scott's only decent film of the nineties after a series of misfires until Gladiator in 2000.

[@moviecollector5920]

It does rather poke fun at the male to female relationships but it's done so well. I've come to appreciate it more and more and today I think it plays better than ever. Ridley did have some other very good films in the 1990's it's just that they weren't recognized. I'm trying to think of the one with Nicolas Cage and Sam Rockwell playing con men. I thought that was pretty terrific. John.

[@adamATOM3]

For sure make the Laurel and Hardy video. That would be great!

[@moviecollector5920]

It will be nice to get that little Bolex 8mm running again so hopefully coming soon Adam. John.

[@timothymathetes]

​@@moviecollector5920great!

[@user-xs8eu4zb6w]

Checking out your review after purchasing the film. I went for the blu ray as im not a fan of the criterion cardboard cases.

[@moviecollector5920]

I don't think you'll be disappointed with it Iain as long as you don't ever see the 4K disc. That's often the way it is with 4K to be fair. John.

[@suavebob]

Not sure if you use PC's much John... I've got a 65" LG OLED connected up to my gaming PC with Nvidia 3080 graphics card, but my point and more interestingly Nvidia have released a new software app update to not only upscale low (although its any) resolution video on the fly but also implement HDR to the picture (you can customise what you want to happen, levels of quality etc or just the HDR). I know you can switch HDR on with standard definition/non HDR content but it looks poor, however this new tech from what i've seen/used seems pretty promising for adding life to older stuff as it seems to implement it well. I watched 1080p "The Void" the other night (a Lovecraft type siege film) and the dark scenes looked great compared to the movie as standard.

[@moviecollector5920]

Evening Bob. There is another device that will enable Dolby Vision through anything, including video projection. Some have said it actually works to maybe one day I'll get to see one working. My instinct tells me nothing like this works as it should but I've been wrong about a couple of other things lately so I'm not as judgmental as I perhaps once was. John.

[@garyharper2943]

On my to get list.

[@moviecollector5920]

It won't be the best 4K you've ever seen Gary but it's probably an almost perfect representation of how premiere house film prints looked back in 1991. John.

[@finlaywelburn]

Great video here John, do you think you will be taking a trip to the bfi to see the 15/70 dune Part two print ?

[@moviecollector5920]

I would like to get up to the BFI IMAX for that but I haven't sorted it yet. It is the only print in the country after all so it will be interesting to see how well 4K video works as a blow-up. John.

[@finlaywelburn]

@@moviecollector5920 I saw the film today and absolutely loved it, I’m sure you will too. Just be aware that most screening at the moment are sold out and the ones that have seats available and the best seats in the house

[@Thecrows_eye]

Seen Dune Part Two yet John? It’s amazing!!!!!!!! Denis is King.

[@moviecollector5920]

No, I haven't Aemond. I'm trying to generate the enthusiasm because I won't go to see a video which means it's got to be the BFI IMAX. I'd like to see how a 4K video looks blown up to something capable of more than 20 times the quality but it should help to make it look more like a film at the very least so all should be good. John.

[@richardhockley229]

Hi, could you do a segment on biggest leaps in quality from Blu-Ray to 4K please. It would be good to know which Blu-Rays to upgrade or pass on, and I'm sure it would make for an interesting feature. Thanks!

[@moviecollector5920]

Where a 4K has resulted in a new Blu-ray you won't see a big jump in quality, just HDR for most of them that makes the difference and sometimes that is even difficult to discern until you really get into spotting the differences. You will only see big leaps in quality where a new Blu-ray has not been mastered and authored such as THE FIRM but even then some people think the Blu-ray is better. It isn't but they're used to seeing the film grain from the general release print used for previous home video releases and therefore assume that the clearer image of the 4K is wholly down to mastering and possibly image noise reduction. John.

[@richardhockley229]

Thanks, good to know! Well maybe a feature on the biggest leaps in quality between releases would make for an interesting segment, as it would be good to know which issues to go for, and which to avoid.

[@moviecollector5920]

@@richardhockley229 The simplest thing to look for is movies that were shot on large format films because with a few exceptions such as TOP GUN: MAVERICK they will be the best 4K discs. MAVERICK is up there with some of them but probably not as good as the very best. Look for VistaVision, Technirama, TODD-AO, 65mm, 70mm and genuine IMAX 15/70. John.

[@richardhockley229]

Great! Thanks for the tip!@@moviecollector5920

[@darkpoethd9913]

Would definitely be interested in Laurel and Hardy

[@moviecollector5920]

I plan to dig out the power lead for that little projector and give it a go shortly. I haven't run it for years so gawd only knows how old the lamp is in it. Might be 50 years or even older. John.

[@danielsmith7247]

Going to watch Dune 2 at the Printworks! Is it all shot in the expanded IMAX ratio? I'm excited!!

[@moviecollector5920]

I believe there are 50 minutes (ish) of 1.43:1 Daniel but it's just that ratio, none of it was shot in IMAX. The BFI IMAX are getting a 15/70 print though so it will be interesting to see how well 4K video stands up to the blow-up. I hope people aren't expecting too much but we may all be surprised. I certainly hope we are. John.

[@danielsmith7247]

@@moviecollector5920 I just hope I'm travelling to Printworks for nothing. I've been looking forward to this film for so long!

[@cheekster777]

Yes please to a video on your small Art Deco 8mm projector, John. Thanks.

[@moviecollector5920]

That's the plan Cheekster. I'll dig the power lead out and shoot some video soon. John.

[@cheekster777]

@@moviecollector5920 🙏🏻 When and where are you watching Dune: Part Two?

[@moviecollector5920]

@@cheekster777 Hopefully the BFI IMAX. Just need to work up the enthusiasm so a re-screening of the first film is required I think. John.

[@cheekster777]

@@moviecollector5920 - Definitely. I re-watched Dune: Part One at The Empire IMAX, Leicester Square a few weeks back to refresh my memory for Dune: Part Two.That was the third time I watched it at the cinema (twice in IMAX with Laser and once in standard 3D).

[@moviecollector5920]

@@cheekster777 We might be re-running the 4K this evening. I don't have a 3D version but to be honest, I don't fancy that anyway. What did you think of it in 3D?

[@squidmckay8542]

hey john great video (as alwalys) just a review request francis ford coppola"s one from the heart. the restoration looks great form the trailer. cheers squdi

[@moviecollector5920]

I haven't actually seen ONE FROM THE HEART Squid. I'll have to take a look for it now that you've suggested it. John.

[@timothymathetes]

Hello John. We saw it! Dune part 2 is quite a unique film. It's one of those films that could do more than one viewing, and I don't think I like it as much as the first part, but I liked it almost as much. It was worth the price just to see Christopher Walken on a throne as Emperor. 😂

[@moviecollector5920]

I didn't know Christopher Walken was in it and that can make a difference for me. We watched DUNE over the past two evenings and I seemed to like it more by watching it in two halves. I don't think it's exactly brilliant but it has a lot to admire within it's two and a half hour running time. I was prepared for that last 25 minutes being too dark and set the system up so that the HDR on the player was at only 25% but the laser lamp output was almost to maximum which meant that discreetly upping the HDR on the player to 75% almost made everything on screen visible without turning the image quality to mush. The bass in the soundtrack can make it difficult to stay in the room at times. John.

[@timothymathetes]

@moviecollector5920 Yes, he is. Not a lot, but enough for me to get a kick out of seeing him as an emperor. I enjoyed seeing the king of quirkiness on a throne. The showing itself was an odd looking, though. There were black bars on the top, bottom, and both sides, and two thin lines appeared throughout. Work print? General release print? What do you think?

[@moviecollector5920]

@@timothymathetes It sounds like you saw it in a conventional cinema which will mean the aspect ratios are all over the place and the film hasn't been optically formatted to fit onto traditional 2.40:1 'Scope screens and so you're seeing all the various different aspect ratios but I'm not sure how many were used. Was it a film print or a digital video projection? I think general release movies should be formatted for 'Scope assuming that's the widest ratio used to make the film. In my opinion widest is best unless it's a genuine IMAX and then I'll happily accept 1.43:1 from a genuine 15/70 IMAX film shot and completed on film. It remains to be seen if I'll feel the same about 4K video blown up to 15/70 but I'm hopeful. As for the two thin lines throughout, if they were within the picture area then that can't have been right. John.

[@timothymathetes]

@moviecollector5920 I somehow doubt that it was digital. It looked like a scratchy film.

[@moviecollector5920]

@@timothymathetes A film print shouldn't be scratchy until it's perhaps been run so many times but hopefully a few thousand. The odd white speck indicating a speck of dust on the negative and the occasional black mark of a spodge of dirt or dust that's managed to get embedded into the emulsion perhaps and that's it. I have a few 35mm general release prints and apart from a few marks that my own lack of knowledge put on a couple of reels they all arrived here perfect after being run in cinemas for several months. One does have a few missing frames where clearly something went wrong while it was running and damaged the film but that's it. Having said all this, we no longer have experienced projectionists in every cinema any longer and so they haven't had the long education from previous generations who had been doing the job all of their working lives. That could lead to a lack of care simply due to a lack of knowledge so if you were seeing a knackered 35mm print of DUNE PART TWO then that is a possible cause because no film print should be at all damaged after just a week of screenings. John.

[@perchr.halling772]

Awww I miss my 8mm projector 😮😂

[@moviecollector5920]

There are plenty of 8mm projectors around for very little money Per. I was actually given the Bolex in this video more than 20 years ago. John.

[@perchr.halling772]

I just don't see them that often overhere- I usded to find them at fleemarkets etc, but now they seem to have vanised@@moviecollector5920

[@Pork-Chop-Express]

Dune Part 2 comes out today (in the U.S.). Got my IMAX tickets. Review from you coming up?

[@timothymathetes]

Good question! You stole it right outta my head.

[@moviecollector5920]

I'm still trying to work up the enthusiasm to get up to the IMAX for that one. I would have done but had to get to London a few weeks ago so that rather spoiled any plans I was working on. Only one IMAX screening of it over here and only 12 worldwide I believe but it's not a genuine IMAX 15/70 - it's a blow-up from the 4K video master file. It will be interesting to see how much better it makes that video look though. John.

[@timothymathetes]

@moviecollector5920 Thanks for the response. We are hoping to see it on Saturday since it opens here today. My wife loves the first part, and we really want to see what happens next.

[@moviecollector5920]

@@timothymathetes The second part does look like it's going to be better than the first so have a great time on Saturday Timothy. And give my best wishes to your wife. Sounds like you got yourself a good 'un there! John.

[@timothymathetes]

@moviecollector5920 She most certainly is. I will pass on your regards. She looks at your videos with me on rare occasions; she'll be amused. She loves Star Trek and finds it very interesting that you have a Trek uniform. 😀 If we do see the film, I will let you know what I think of it.

[@808physicalmedia9]

Thelma & Louise 4k picture quality better than American Graffiti 4k?

[@moviecollector5920]

I think so but there are some exceptionally, colourful street scenes in American Graffiti that stand out and may well give Thelma & Louise a run for its money. Definition will be better on Thelma & Louise of course because of the difference in film formats i.e. twice the image area. John.

[@hblanche]

I probably won't be purchasing this one. I enjoyed the movie when I first saw it, and the ending is iconic. However, it's just not the sort of film that in my opinion stands up to additional viewings. You realize, with some sadness, how forced the plot moves along, how silly some of the choices and decisions that are made, and ultimately the ending loses much of its punch and impact. Still, a great review as always.

[@moviecollector5920]

You might be surprised Henri because I think that it takes at least a couple of viewings to fully take in everything going on in Thelma & Louise. The comedy is wonderful but it isn't really known for that side of it. Some of the greatest lines in movies in my opinion. "You're standing in your pizza!" A brilliant delivery of that one in particular from Harvey Keitel. John.

[@MrBrax]

I still have yet to watch this one, the name always confuses me since it's the exact same as a Swedish TV production company with a lot of good programmes.

[@moviecollector5920]

Maybe that production company took the name from the film. I'll have to look it up. John.

[@ArnoldTohtFan]

Oh dear, it looks like the usual suspects have been tinkering again! _Thelma & Louise_ predates digital colour grading, yet it has the obnoxious teal/orange palette of a contemporary picture. I don't know if it always looked this way, or if they have applied a filter for this new presentation, as they have done with so many others. Needless to say, I dislike it intensely. But assuming one can overlook this, the plot and acting are excellent.

[@moviecollector5920]

Ernie Marsh has commented to say that he's not happy with the mastering so perhaps the Blu-ray is more representative of the 35mm release prints. It didn't look as filmic in here but all our equipment producing varying results so nothing is ever going to be spot on. I'll get more information from Ernie as he was in the industry his whole working life. John.

[@ernestmarsh9698]

Love the movie but not this mastering, IMHO the material just doesn’t add up, rented it and thankfully won’t be wasting my money on it. Criterion have lost their way on quite a few of their releases though the recent years. Sorry John.

[@moviecollector5920]

Do you think the Blu-ray is more representative of the 35mm release prints Ernie? I did like the rich colour of the Blu-ray in places but overall it didn't have the filmic impression of the 4K in here. John.