Did Orient Just Make A Better Seiko For HALF PRICE?

[@colmfarrell1997]

I have the orient chronograph and I love it. Wears really nice and matches loads of straps. I would recommend it to anyone.

[@denlfc123]

What straps would you recommend?, I have the orient too

[@colmfarrell1997]

@@denlfc123 got a few on strapsco. They have a good selection and weren't overly priced. Quality was quite good. A black rally strap works nicely I think.

[@chensychensy9979]

I got the Orient a few months ago. It's one of my favorite watches now.

[@Scortd]

Same here. Would have liked a racer bezel instead of the diver bezel; however, I am very happy with my purchase and the price I got my Panda at was a win.

[@DaFox13]

This Orient was my best watch purchase of 2023, considering it’s price and how good the watch is 👌

[@omadayusjones6414]

Just picked up this Seiko today at my local jeweler. Very pleased. Thx for your usual great work Russell! Cheers!

[@edcfyau]

I have this orient and i can tell you i love it! The case finishing is a step above typical makos with a mix of high polish beveling and fine brushing as opposed to the slab sided brushed seiko. The orient dial is very intricate as well. Some may say that the diving bezel is an odd choice for a chrono but i find it very useful as a count down timer and the chrono as a stop watch. Also having 200m water resistance is a huge plus. I agree the bracelet is crap but at least most of the budget went to the head of the watch. The dimensions are quite deceiving as width measures above 42mm from 10 and 4 but when measured from 12 to 6 it’s actually 41mm so the watch wears smaller than specs suggest. Solar quartz is awesome making it super accurate, convenient and robust.

[@danielfrancis3660]

Clickity click bezel test, jingly jangly bracelet test. Love these technical tests.

[@AmsalK89]

I joined the clockwork republic train after seeing them on your channel and oh boy what a change. This is how any seiko diver should be worn. So good

[@pineapple2814]

Got the tan dial Speedtimer last week, hasn't left my wrist. Killer watch for the price- checks a lot of boxes. the looks are stellar, the dial color is unique, the weight feels great, the bracelet is solid. I'd say it's by far the better choice of these two.

[@robertsjolin8148]

I have the yellow gold version as mvc talked about at the end and can only say im so happy with it, looks good on every different strap i put on , right now on a miltat jubille from strapcode 🙂

[@stu632]

I think you have sold me on the Seiko now Russ. Great review as usual buddy 👍🙏

[@Robin354-u5x]

I do like the Yellow face Pogue, the colors are beautiful. Just got one, and I’m very happy. I like the update from the old. Old Pogue had a day/date, and the current TAN one you showed looks a bit boring.

[@Itstimetoshowoffwatches]

I was already taking MDC’s advice and saving for the Seiko. I love that watch!

[@fraisernash5656]

Just love the Orient, in fact I probably wear the Orient's more than any of the others, great review

[@jotr.9786]

I like the orient bracelets, usually just change the clasp on a "milled" one with adjust

[@Resolute900]

Mad is a die-hard Seiko fan. That's just him! Thanks for the great presention bud.

[@renuvicknesh861]

Mad is an aSshole seiko lover bro

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Thanks man

[@rantarific]

I needed this man. I was about to buy the orient. Im gonna save a couple more bucks to buy the seiko.Thanks!

[@Mtnmsh]

I appreciate and respect your honesty review and opinion 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️

[@Kenji-Tsuyoi]

Prefer the look of the Seiko over the Orient

[@GrumblingForesight]

Me too. I think the proportions of each of the elements are better considered. Which, come to think of it, shouldnt come as a surprise really, thats what Seiko has proven they’re good at over and over again.

[@josecarbocapote3322]

Orient! Without any doubt! Mad, you're the Best! Hola desde ,🇪🇸

[@tcwhite0104]

GREAT VIDEO!!! I noticed Epson Corp stamped on the back: In 2001 Seiko Epson (one of three core companies of the Seiko Group) became the majority shareholder (52%) of the company. Orient Watch became a wholly owned subsidiary of Epson in 2009. So with that I am amazed Orient isn't using Seiko movements.

[@3rdstone1]

I think it's pretty cool that Orient have their own movements, especially seemingly being pretty similar in case of specs etc to the Seiko movements (at least their basic ones); Considering the ownership of these companies. I personally hope that will last.

[@癒される-k2d]

you are wrong, Seiko Epson is an independent company(stock code: 6724), seiko group is another company(stock code: 8050), seiko group use the movement that made by seiko epson

[@orvillefindley8117]

I'm just playing with my Citizen Challenge timer bullhead chronograph. 👍🤗

[@davidbonnard8083]

on s en bat les couilles traduction . we don t care about you citizshit .

[@vampolascott36]

The Speedtimer is just so good looking, it kicked the Hanhart 417 off my wrist. I put it on a Sinn leather strap I wasn't using, and it's a perfect match.

[@RantandRave-ko1ge]

Seiko all the way on this one, but do love my Orient Ray 2, it's an almost perfect watch (sapphire and better bracelet/clasp needed)

[@michaelhorn8962]

Since I bought my Ray 2, I haven't felt tempted to upgrade to a more expensive diver. I do wish it had a bigger, grippier crown, though.

[@RedwoodAggie]

Loved the comparison and Seiko losing a lume battle is a shocker indeed. Those Clockwork Republic straps are definitely intriguing. I'm now considering one for my Turtle.

[@momtaz1252]

I honestly fancy the Orient. I like the rotating bezel which is more useful than the useless tachometer on the Seiko. It has a screw down crown and the dial size suits me more as I think the Seiko is too small for my 7.5" wrist. However, I like the charging indicator in the Seiko.

[@ignaciopadilla5150]

I love my Orient Panda Mako Chrono. I put it on a white FKM rubber strap and its just....My ahhh Chefs kiss.

[@totororobkaye50]

I got the orient for 300 , saving 340 over getting the sekio,which I put towards a bulova Jet star, don't regret it for a second it's a great practical everyday watch.

[@rauliflemington7045]

Excellent choice. I did the same.

[@djavaheri1]

I've been posting this everywhere about comparing these two. I think you probably read something I posted. I'm glad you did this comparison. But there's more! You should have thrown in that cheap Sbpy165 to compare also.... And dare I say you could also include the Neo 70s 🐼. Love your channel sir. I watch it constantly

[@AvicSubfusca]

"Sad ghost" 🤣🤣 your Mrs never fails to deliver!!

[@oliver1965]

Good comparison. Have the Seiko since 2 yrs. bought many watches since then. But the Speedtona will stay in my rotation. Get going 🚀

[@Memmaao]

I have the European limited seituna in baby blue 💙. I love that one.

[@sm95555]

1 million like for reviewing this one. ❤❤❤ They also made a special edition with white bezel

[@meytal_rockz6669]

Definitely need to get you a job at Seiko! YOU Sold ME lol Awesome Vids M8!! new Casio W219H w/ Timex black&white stripe NATO on the wrist!

[@Trip2Shiesty]

I’m taking the seiko

[@timetowatch_francois]

You are right, the proportions on the Seiko are very nice but, the offset of the date window on the Seiko stands out like a sore thumb in my eyes. I like larger watches and the date window is better positioned on the Orient. My pick, « the Orient » Another great show Russ! Keep it up! 😅👍🏼

[@sandeepraj3619]

I own the Orient in Black. Swapped the stock bracelet for a shark mesh. Looks killer now. I think comparing it with the Seiko diver chronos with the Sumo case would be more fair.

[@emberkedves6330]

Nice video big bro! This is what we want! Mild price range watches

[@craiglinford1604]

That Seiko is awesome I’m getting one in the next week or so ..

[@JPLewcun]

I don’t mind the diver bezel on the Orient. I have a few chronographs- a Citizen solar, Casio, even 2 Tags. Honestly don’t use the tachometer scale much but would use the diver bezel. Would have to see what looks best on my 6.5 in wrist. Thanks Russ.

[@JamesChalmers-z7b]

I was thinking of buying the Orient and now I’m glad I didn’t. I do have the Orient Neo70s Panda on a rally strap and it’s a very nice watch.

[@Dean-f2c]

Tan dial SEIKO looks great!

[@Doug5524]

That was a fantastic review keep them coming oh I do like the Sekio better

[@_urahara_]

Seiko looks great. However, they have reached the point where their watches have gotten too expensive for most collectors. I hope Orient can take advantage of this by coming up with fresh designs at more affordable prices.

[@salmaansayed4107]

Just got mine from a friend from Japan in Italy and it costed me much lesser. LOVEEE IT. MY BEST PURCHASE YET!!

[@patrickhartmann1540]

The Seiko is such a winner. Hard to beat in the looks department. Solar quartz is a huge bonus. Another place to look for affordable full mechanical is the Sugess 39 Chrono.

[@tejas.]

This is my favourite watch , I got this in december and its just too good its my first watch with a solar chrono I like compared to an automatic funnily , i also prefer this bezel and way cheaper over a speedtimer! Go for it if you're considering!

[@DonaldJoeKennedy]

Hair is coming in nicely.

[@ewatkins1975]

I have the Seiko and it shares time with my Omega PO Seamaster. I love the Seiko. I don't feel like I have put on a "cheap watch" after wearing the much more expensive Omega. It is very nice but I do hate the 24 hour sub dial, not useful at all but in fairness I almost never push the buttons anyway lol.

[@NagareboshiFin]

I had orient neo-panda for a while and something was just off.. proportions, cheap bracelet. It was nice but lacking. Then I bought speedtimer and it was love at first sight. Everything done right, imho. It always feel like a precious, beautiful and sturdy piece on the wrist. One of my favorite watches.

[@herewegoagain...]

Chronos with a diver bezel have always been odd to me. A big hand timers really should have a tachymeter.

[@SamuraiJackson]

How often in life do you use a tachymeter?

[@herewegoagain...]

@@SamuraiJackson Me personally? Only at the track, and only when I am curious what someone's average speed is through a certain section, which is not very often. But that isn't really the point. A big timer hand chrono's main purpose is to line up with a tachymeter, otherwise, it would just be one of the sub dials. But on a more macro level, my, or anyone else's specific use case for a watch exists independently of what that watch should be: I don't dive to 300m, but I still expect my dive watches to be water proof.

[@M6GOF]

Get your hands on a Seiko Ripley reissue, it knocks both of these chronographs out of the park. Also, they're less bulkier for those with smaller wrists.

[@dbons_np]

The orient neo 70’s solar panda I believe would be a better choice from orient. And maybe a better alternative than this orient if one does not wish to pay seiko prices. Thoughts? And if memory serves. You can get a solid endink nice bracelet for it aftermarket.

[@aishwaryanarayanan7695]

came here to say this 👆 , i think the neo70 would be an appropriate comparison instead of the mako panda

[@markrogers1275]

They do a champagne coloured dial with a green ring which is beautiful

[@raider23able]

Does the Seiko Turtle strap fit the Captain Willard?

[@cristianojadeja]

casio is releaseing one too

[@garethsigrist8714]

Great show as always MWC and a very useful comparison. I think both watches are great for their respective places in the market. For me, the Seiko wins straight away given it has the tachymeter bezel rather than the Orients diver countdown bezel. Even though a timing bezel is probably more useful to me than a tachymeter, a chronograph needs a tachymeter, right? 😂

[@rjg02005]

I like the dive bezel of the orient.

[@ongtangcofamily2846]

If you're looking for a more affordable JDM Quartz chronograph, I recommend the Hyakuichi 101 Chronograph. It comes with beautiful dials and color ways, a solid end link steel bracelet, and ceramic bezel. Did I mention it's JDM?

[@Resolute900]

Hi Mad, and thanks for sharing your thoughts, observations and passion once again with us. Quick question though, Which Orient Automatic , in your opinion, will be the best value for money?

[@Scortd]

I know you are asking him, but I'd say you can't go wrong with a Kamasu, Mako III, or baby triton if looking at a diver (baby triton if you want a larger bezel). For a dresser watch I prefer an open heart or sun and moon bambino. But it's all about personal preference.

[@justinebodlak1373]

@@Scortd I agree. Kamasu! Beautiful...

[@Resolute900]

@@ScortdIve heard alotof good things about the Kumasu, and I wanted to probe Mad into approval. 😁

[@Resolute900]

But Mad being Mad, the Seiko fanatic, that ain't gonna happen... well not in public , anyway.

[@corpuzone]

I like that ‘Sei-tona’ 😂

[@Mannyperez610]

If you don’t mind solar I’d prefer the Orient neo 70

[@bigdavedave9865]

Love a Seitona. I have the go large 😎

[@TwitchRadio]

Not really my style of watch but I can appreciate it for what it is.. Orient Bambino version 8 is my favorite from the lineup not a big fan of the Roman numerals but the watch is just beautiful to me... Seiko is nice too... But only have one of their watches (the square Recraft in green, looks like a tank watch)... it's okay, and only use it here and there, anyways, I'll stick with Orient Casio citizen Tissot timex for being a price range I can afford and the quality still there... But would love to get my hands on the Hamilton field watch to see if I like it... 😎✌️

[@tillterilltilltill]

The Orient really is a nice piece. Love the look! I just wouldn't buy one when I want a racing chrono as it's a diver so I believe both watches aren't that comparable. Hollow endlinks and pressed clasp on the Orient are a bummer in 2024 as well. Otherwise a beautiful watch and a good deal if you just search for a panda chrono and put another strap on the watch anyway. The SEIKO is almost perfect when you're searching for a racing chrono and don't want to pay TAG Heuer Carrera prices but it's still way too expensive at ~700 msrp IMO.

[@brianmsahin]

I definitely prefer the Seiko, however , I do think the diver fans who want the diver feel but the chrono look, the Orient is an excellent choice. I have Orients, a dress watch, a Mako XL diver and a Japanese market Panda 3 subdial chronograph and I changed the bracelets on them all. I think the difference in price shows, but if you put a good quality strap or bracelet on the Orient, it could change the perception a lot. My Pulsar Solar has a ceramic tachymeter bezel that looks better than the one on the Seiko. And Seiko owns Pulsar. I'd have loved to see that tachymeter on the Seiko !

[@DankeUde]

Finally the Seitona 🙌🏻 is on da house

[@bigfish786]

Thanks for the reviews, I’ve been considering both watches myself. I think Seiko has made the size 41mm now which is probably better for me. Agree about the Orient style, they could have made an original design. Still, 2 nice watches 👍

[@bigfish786]

The Orient Neo 70’s is one that’s worth a look, and is a fair bit cheaper.

[@Trip2Shiesty]

Wrist buddies is where I get most of my straps from

[@michaelhargis7036]

Wrist buddies... Thanks for the heads up. I'll be checking them out asap. ✌️

[@stanislas4990]

Seiko is a better watch than the Orient.I like to buy “cheap” watches sometimes, but between Seiko and Orient it’s an easy choice.

[@ponyman13]

we need a proper pogue reissue

[@eddieg849]

This was a very good video I really enjoyed it I'm glad your wife agreed with you 😂

[@EsoRimerCz]

It is not watch with chronograph, It is chronograph which also shows time (I can't get over the big second hand not moving)

[@DisplayKeesBack]

Both great watches! Seitona would be my choice! Clockwork has a great strap for my samurai!

[@SquirrelRIP]

I think the Seiko has the better looks. The Orient makes we want to smoke a cigarette.

[@Boyahda]

I took one look at it and I said "man I'm tired" and lit up a Marlboro Red.

[@low87dawg86]

😂 that’s funny

[@shahzaibgilani314]

Already smoking one watching this 😂

[@DonaldJoeKennedy]

I'm going to take up smoking now.

[@gymbobjoe1091]

I thought I'd think that but owning an orient you notice the logo is so small you don't notice it or think about the Marlboro lol

[@colinw7496]

When you point out you could get a Bambino and the Orient Chrono for the same price as the Seiko I think I would go for the two Orients.

[@justinbowdish3730]

I own a orient bambino which has a automatic movement

[@r7ice]

My parents and I bought the orient last May of this year and after the purchase I immediately removed the sticker on the caseback when we got home 😰 Should I be worried?

[@PeanutPundit]

00:18 A Seiko, a Psycho, and an Orient. 😁

[@Manan_Agrawal056]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@christianrivero446]

That kamasu looks great

[@Dave0G]

Inside the bezel it's the Orient but not a fan of crossing it with the exterior of an existing, non-chrono watch.

[@CATARINOVICTOR]

and about Seiko "Pogue" SSC947 when a review!

[@wanderer1125]

Are those movements serviceable? For longer ownership

[@rauliflemington7045]

Yes.

[@jamesjohnson7905]

Hi Russell what's your opinion on orient star ⭐ are they worth the extra money

[@Butters-s4i]

The date windows on both not being centered between the indices triggers me

[@adibkhanpathan2560]

Have you tried Hmt Himalaya Watch?

[@cagataycakmak2280]

Seiko looks much, much better and for me thats enough for it to come out on top.

[@kirikopoulos]

I wanted a panda chronograph just for the looks. The seiko was 675 euros and the orient was 220 euro. It was an easy win for the orient. I changed immediatelly the bracellet on the orient with a silicon one and the watch is amazing. For the mazority of peaple that just want the looks of a panda watch and do not want to go to the chinese market, the orient is a cleat winner.

[@robertmckinlay7242]

I considered both, the Seiko's pricey albeit a deal was possible when I made enquiries, the Orient's on the big side. Ended up buying a Hoffman which was kind of nuts for other reasons.

[@denlfc123]

What kind of price is possible on the Seiko?

[@robertmckinlay7242]

Depends on the jeweller, I round down, they can negotiate.

[@andrewegan1732]

A Seiko with sapphire glass at this price point, amazing.

[@turbyoulance]

SEIKO is the winner as I concur too.

[@NaNByZero]

Yes, the Seiko still rocks it. 🕐⚙️🍸

[@74CD]

Seiko all the way. What are your thoughts on Squale Sub-39 GMT Vintage Blue? This is my latest acquisition, and it took me ages to rule out Doxa and Zodiac.

[@johnvandeven2188]

Are the movements the same seeing as Seiko and Orient bat on the same team. It's obvious that they are both quartz movements.

[@simonosborne3047]

I prefer the hand set on the Seiko, but the tachymetre? I mean whoever uses one? I use the dive bezel for timing cooking, timing breaks at work etc..

[@richardshaw1968]

Isn’t chronograph is handy for timing stuff?

[@bryanellis2927]

I have the orange chronograph It’s a beautiful timepiece A friend purchased it from seiko dreams in Ginza £150 cheaper than the uk rrp I can’t believe just how good it looks The sunburst orange really plays with the light Would you have a different opinion if you had one to try and if it had nothing to do with the Pogue story and was just a different colour scheme. Seiko boutique sold all its stock before it was officially released I think that says something It is a unique looking piece and being 41mm it feels incredibly heavy for a quartz watch. People are already trying to flip on EBay for a profit Don’t knock it because of the Pogue story It’s not a fair reason to slate it

[@andyguy0610]

3 dial chrono's have never been my thing, but my bigest gripe is "the Date Window" why do they still put them on watches like this? They un balance the layout of the dial, both look like they were shoehorned in

[@bogrot69]

Love a weekend double whammy! 😁

[@adk7962]

Greatly enjoyed the video, but I don’t think any of us had to watch to know the Orient is a great watch, but the Seiko is better and worth the money. Thanks!

[@jacobguedj8554]

3 times the price for under quality

[@adk7962]

@@jacobguedj8554I don’t think it’s three times the price (or at least I hope you didn’t pay that much), but I see your point about the Orient. I love my Kamasu.

[@BulldogBadger]

Seiko have churned out a lot of cr@p over the last few years but the Seitona is not one of them! I bought it a couple of years back and still love it, everything about it ticks all of my own personal boxes and I would happily pay the additional money for it

[@mk84142]

I like the orient for its unique concept and design. Chrono in a diver is a cool concept in my view. No doubt seiko is higher quality but seems relative to price.