Flint and Tinder Waxed Trucker vs Iron and Resin The Scout

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

If you missed my measurements in the description. I am 5’9” 175 wearing a size medium in both jacket.

[@johnt1115]

Just received my Scout today. Built like a tank. Very impressive. They run small though. I’m normally a Large in every jacket and ordered an XL here. Still a bit tight and could only wear a long sleeve T-shirt with it. If want to wear a simple flannel shirt underneath then need a bit larger. Just ordered an XXL and will return this but really love the jacket. I’m 5’11” 188 44” chest. Love the more athletic fit like my Arcteryx Beta AR and that it’s not boxy and frumpy like an FT looks like it is. Can’t wait for the larger one.

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

I wish I got mine in a large when I ordered it. The medium fit, but was tight with an extra layer. I did have an old V1 prior in a medium and it fit perfect. But the current V2 is a little slimmer cut, and it had the extra layer inside making it a little slimmer. But it’s still a great jacket. One you will have a lifetime.

[@homeless215]

How did the XXL end up fitting? I'm in the same boat. I wear a large got a xl and it's a little too small to layer.

[@johnt1115]

@ the XL went to my son and the XXL ended up fitting perfectly. Very happy with it. I will say though that I think due to the membrane it doesnt breathe very well so I only wear it in cooler temps otherwise it can get clammy.

[@-zg2ug]

I watched this video, and you sold me on the I&R, hands down. Different strokes. Thanks for the video, man.

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

Happy to be of service. If your looking for a charcoal in a medium, let me know. I haven’t worn it in a while. So I am going to sell this one.

[@-zg2ug]

@@jeffgrantMEDIA I’m hoping the Halley Stevensons will be back in stock before the fall.

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

@@-zg2ug I’ve been waiting on that for months. Hopefully they finally get some in soon for you.

[@DarrenGWhite]

I have a few of the Iron & Resin jackets, they just hit me so perfectly. I'll have to check out a Flint n tinder when it starts getting colder

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

I think I might sell my I&R jacket. I haven’t really worn it sense getting the FNT. I am really digging these jackets.

[@CRHK88]

Nice video. Love these types of jackets, I have the I&R Cruiser in tan and black and a charcoal colored Rambler, but I needed something lighter weight for warmer temps, so plan on picking up the F&T in either Field Tan or Havana.

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

I’m currently rocking the new FNT unlined wax trucker jacket. It’s about 90° out here today, and it’s a bit warm wearing anything more than shorts and a T-shirt. But the unlined is great for the mid 60s up to about the mid 80s. Especially if you’re out riding a bit. it’s a perfect way to keep that wind and sun off your skin.

[@gutszer0405]

Have the cruiser in black and tan too, absolutely love those jackets.

[@socal2az93]

Great breakdown and exactly what I’ve been looking for to help narrow down options!!

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

If you’re looking for a medium charcoal Scout, I’m selling this one. I’ve been wearing the FNT hard core.

[@Fc3s2k101]

awesome comparison review!! own both V1 Made in USA I&R and forest F&T and love them both!!

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

Thanks! I had a V1 made in USA Scout. I really wish I kept that one. I regrettably sold it and immediately wished I hadn't.

[@garcuca]

I have the exact same charcoal F&T Trucker in medium (we are the same size), but I find it too boxy for my liking. I prefer the I&R but not sure I would like the weight. After wearing a lightweight vertical jacket and dry wax unlined bomber from TS, even the F&T is heavy. Nice comparison though👍

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

The I&R definitely has more heft to it than the FNT. It’s. A heavier weight canvas, and it has two linings. A water barrier (in my opinion, unneeded in a waxed jacket, and the liner).

[@paulcantrell91]

Minute 1:24. What is made of cotton and what is made of polyester? You are covering the information with your thumb.

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

@@paulcantrell91 don’t currently own a scout. But I believe the sleeves are Polly lined and the body is cotton.

[@troytempest290]

Owning both the Flint & Tinder & the Iron & Resin I concur on all points-the F&T is a looser fit but the I&R is seriously heavy duty. My choice would be the Freenote every time. Great reviews fella but you’ve gotta check out the Freenote.

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

I’ve reached out to freenote. They are not interested in a partnership. But I am selling some jackets. So I am hopefully going to buy either a Filson, Freenote or Shop John.

[@troytempest290]

@@jeffgrantMEDIA The waiting list is currently closed on the Ship John but you’ll be looking at a couple of years to get your hands on one buddy, mines due 08/02/25…hopefully in the afternoon as I’ve got a plumber booked in for the morning 🤣 I’m not surprised Freenote aren’t interested in partnering, their waxed truckers sell themselves.

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

@@troytempest290 last time I looked at ship John it was like 8-12 months. But they are the lowest in my list. I like them, but I wold prefer a Filson. Just something about the name Tin Cloth that makes me REALLY want one. I wouldn’t mind testing out a Thursday either. See how it directly compares to the FNT.

[@troytempest290]

@@jeffgrantMEDIA I was also interested to compare the Thursday but being in the U.K the import duty would make it an expensive exercise-I’d rather pay more for a keeper.

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

@@troytempest290 I will probably check eBay for one myself. I’m sure there will be some for sale aftet Christmas. They are another company I reached out too. At least Freenote got back to me to decline (and very quickly) Thursday just never bothered to reply.

[@WhiskyJamJar]

I want that Halley Stevenson I&R jacket, particularly as I'm from Dundee - where Halley Stevenson are but it's incredibly expensive to import it here, around £450 after taxes and import fees!

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

Damn! That’s a lot of coin! I wanted the Halley Stevenson myself, but they never seemed to restock it. If you’re interested in a charcoal…. I can see how much it would cost to ship to AU. I bought a B.O. Gear bag from Brisbane earlier this year and it was $80 USD shipping.

[@WhiskyJamJar]

Thanks for the offer but I'm holding out for the Halley edition to get re-stocked (one day!). I picked up a Kuhl Outlaw Wax Jacket (highly recommend too) in a sale offer and it was similar shipping costs to get here at around £50. I do love these style of jackets!

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

@@WhiskyJamJar I keep forgetting about it the Kuhl. When I was going to get o e, they were out of stock in my size. I think they dropped new colors recently n

[@saucyg6371]

Honestly for me I can’t do without a corduroy collar. The difference in comfortability between a soft lined and non-lined collar are night and day for work

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

For the most part I agree. FNT should add a cord collar to most of their waxed jackets. Aftet having the flannel lined for a while now, this is the only one I think works without it. Maybe it’s just because I’ve been wearing this for so long, I am use to seeing it cosmetically without a lined collar. Comfort wise, yes though. I would love tot see the under side of the cuffs lined. #keeptbosewatchfacesclean

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

What jacket would you like to see next? Filson?

[@DeffoZappo]

The lining of the F&T is also made in New Jersey?

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

The liner is imported. Though they do not say where form on the site. But it is cut and sewn into the jacket in LA.

[@Jordannotthecountry]

My issue with the iron resin is you can’t move in them. Or I can’t. I can’t even comfortable bend down to pick something up in it with my arms stretched…there’s no way you’d be able to do any type of work in it. It’s just a standing around jacket honestly. For me anyway. Flint and tinder isn’t great in that regard but it’s better. But the material is way too light to wear outside of social/fashion settings. Like wearing paper.

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

You may want to check out the FNT wool waxed trucker or the Rancher. The wool is 8.5 Oz and the Rancher is 10oz. One of the issues with the I&R is the 12 Oz is pretty thick and restrictive. It is a more form fitting cut as well. I kind of wished I sized up in the I & R.

[@Jordannotthecountry]

@@jeffgrantMEDIA hey thanks so much! Definitely checking them out

[@troytempest290]

The Iron & Resin does feel very stiff at first but I promise it loosens up after the first few wears.

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

@@troytempest290 my current problem is, I have far too many wax jackets wear any of them for a couple of years straight. Been working with Huckberry now I have like seven jackets.

[@troytempest290]

@@jeffgrantMEDIA “wears”- not years 🙃👉🧥 📅

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

What jacket would you choose?

[@mattgonzalez5888]

Great video. I’m torn between these two jackets. My real question is, what cap are you wearing? I’m trying to find it.

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

If you are looking for something more form fitting go I&R. If you want a loser for FNT all the way. I am actually selling both of these jackets. I’ve been working with Huckberry, and I now have more waxed jackets than I can wear. And the hat is a Boston Scally Co the Scrapper. Boston Scally Co The Scrapper | LONG TERM REVIEW kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoW0ZI2ZeKifapo

[@mattgonzalez5888]

Thanks for the info!

[@martin4819]

The FT jacket definitely looks better on u. It’s an outer layer so I don’t think I’d care much how it’s lined, it’s essentially a stylish windbreaker (with the wax) thats easy to layer. The IR is cut too short…that won’t compliment too many people? I ordered the Gustin version of a waxed trucker. It has a bit more detail which may or may not be better? Definitely will add the FT if I don’t love the Gustin. Im an engineer, I find it hard to believe a jacket could have a one or two inch variance….that would be some horrible quality control and impossible if automated.

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

Did you ever end up getting and FNT jacket? And how is the Gustin wearing?

[@josephburton3232]

You should start to include your measurements and size of the clothing that you got in your videos. It's hard to understand your explanation of the sizing if you don't mention how big you are or what size the jacket is.

[@jeffgrantMEDIA]

@@josephburton3232 I do in most videos. If I forget it’s in the description or a pinned comment.