Hi TMF, I've been looking forward to this review just to read the comments section. As someone who spent many years designing special purpose vehicles and equipment, I applaud Yamaha for working outside the box and bringing what I regard as a fun revolutionary motorcycle. Everyone thought nothing more could be done with scooters, then along came Piaggio with two wheels at the front of the MP3. Other poor sods have tried introducing automatic gearboxes and electric motors on motorcycle. God help the motorcycle industry as it tries to move forward from two wheels and the internal combustion engine. It's not an MT09 or a MT10 because it's a Niken with 3 wheels. Another excellent video and I enjoyed your usual impartial, unbiased review.
@ride4funnomg1035 жыл бұрын
Everyone loves to hate on this “bike”, which is not unusual in the conservative motorcycle world. I think Yamaha is really pushing the suspension technology and doing it rather well.
@andydomanski28765 жыл бұрын
I test rode one of these a few weeks ago and have to say that I was thoroughly impressed with it and the confidence it inspires going into bends is just phenominal. I tried my best to upset the front end by going over uneven ground but the bike was having none of it. What a hoot! On the downside I would say they do look a bit odd when traveling behind one, like the rider is dangling their legs. 😁 Another great review, cheers TMF. 👍
@boomerhgt4 жыл бұрын
You didn't buy it did you says it all about this machine a novelty motorcycle
@FrankFurther5 жыл бұрын
I think this might be my future old person bike instead of the normal GS. Looks like it would do well in shit weather on slippery roads.
@CanTURKeyed5 жыл бұрын
as own one; in rain tired behavious ou may not like; front grip amazing; but rear drives on direct wet surface unlike regular bıke; my friends didnt like it; but ı get used to it. great machine.
@boomerhgt4 жыл бұрын
I'm in my 60s no thanks stick to my DCT Africa Twin and CB1300
@garthwaters57563 жыл бұрын
yeah it has 60% more grip than a normal bike so ive been told by Yamaha , ive not ridden one as yet they are a huge beast though lol, bigger than my R1250 GS , and i own a 2019 tracer 900 GT as well
@-runningwithscissors-97665 жыл бұрын
It's actually pronounce KNEE KEN, accent on the KNEE. In Japanese, NI means two and KEN means blade, so Two Blades, referring to the front end......
@TheMissendenFlyer5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for enlightening me on that - mystery solved!
@Skymaxy4 жыл бұрын
- RunningWithScissors - They are supposed to be “Journalist”, and they cant even get the name right?
@zardportugal5 жыл бұрын
Great option for touring purposes and also for a private collection. In a few years it will a high value exotic motorcycle. Nice review.
@boomerhgt4 жыл бұрын
Yeah maybe because no body wants to buy one now
@nimrod66035 жыл бұрын
According to Yamaha, it’s because those two front wheels “reduce the effects of changes in the ride environment and inspire front-end confidence when turning.” Which means that the bike will provide more grip on a road that’s slippery from rain or sand.
@waynegoldpig22205 жыл бұрын
In a corner, if one tyre slips the other still has a fighting chance.
@Porsche996driver5 жыл бұрын
This is not a trike lol. But that turning confidence is an interesting concept. I’ve never low-sided before, but it seems this would lower the likelihood in slippery environments. Maybe put spiked ice track tires and take it out?! 🙂
@robhives69964 жыл бұрын
@Rata 4U a trike is the other way round. Minimal front end grip.
@simonstokes26725 жыл бұрын
I love different stuff, and the Niken certainly ticks that box. Can see myself on one in later years when my F4 gets to much for my weary bones! I Like the fact that Yamaha are doing something left field. Remember the GTS 1000? Good fair review. Fred
@perhaps61125 жыл бұрын
So many people judging by the comments here and elsewhere have misunderstood the Niken. It should not in my view be regarded as a three wheeler at all but rather a motorcycle with a fat front end, the purpose of which is to hugely improve handling. For all practical purposes it's a two wheeler and has virtually nothing in common with three wheel vehicles like the Tricity scooter. People may or may not like it but it's definitely designed by Yamaha to be a proper motorcycle for those want a proper motorcycle, not some weird vehicle for those not willing or able to handle a normal bike. You have to be happy riding mid/big bikes to be happy with a Niken. If for some reason an individual is unwilling or unable to handle any big bike, then the Niken is not for them.
@clutchpedalreturnsprg77105 жыл бұрын
Hi, there's another fun way to activate the center stand: Remain seated. Touch left boot heel to the center stand foot protrusion/ lever. Grab underneath the seat, actually reaching fingers underneath the frame's top rails. .Then apply all body weight to left leg; while standing up. The m/c will pop right up. This method worked for all m/c with top rails for seating and dual shock absorbers. Probably no lo longer applies to all current m/cs. :)
@RobBradshaw5 жыл бұрын
The Yamaha Tri-City is probably the only reason my wife ever got into motorbiking. After she got comfortable, she traded up to a BMW C650 Sport. So, I do have a soft spot for Yamaha three wheelers for that very reason. I spent many hours following behind aTri-City when my wife was learning and verify how stable the Yamaha three wheelers are. More types and interesting experiments are great for motorcycling in general. I test drove one a month ago and it is definitely going on my list of machines to think about for when I replace my current bike. I don't get the hate, no one is forcing you to buy one. If you think it is a stupid idea, DON'T BUY ONE!!
@RobBradshaw Жыл бұрын
I ended up buying one. Got a 2019 GT with 4000km on the clock. I've had it for 7 months and put on 4000km. LOVE IT. For me it is the sweet spot in the sport touring spectrum. Comfortable and staple on the road but you can still push it hard in the twisty bits. It's not for everyone, but I think it is great.
@jimbandit1250sa4 жыл бұрын
This bike is absolutely unique gives awesome sound from triple engine and a solid grip in wet or dry. The biggest worry for any ride is loosing the front end. Yamaha sorted 😍😊 awesome revue as always 👌😋
@MrSixStringy5 жыл бұрын
For those wondering if a car license can be used for riding these in the UK...in short, no: the Niken's front track (centreline distance between the two front wheels) is 410mm. UK law specifies that if the front track is less than 460mm, then legally it's considered as one wheel and a full motorcycle licence is therefore required to operate it. The Piaggio MP3 LT front track is 465mm by way of comparison.
@mikehurley50525 жыл бұрын
Shaft drive would be good on this as a tourer, it also needs some sort of lock system on the forks so when stopped it will stay up on its own, that would make it more appealing.
@garypunter4125 жыл бұрын
I agree about the fork lock system so you could do away with the side stand. My only reservation would be the risk of it failing and somehow activating whilst moving, resulting in you not being able to lean/tilt into the corner. Ouch! Also it would then need some sort of handbrake to stop it rolling away, or leave in gear all the time when parked and risk damaging the gearbox. I wholeheartedly think all these big high mileage aimed tourers should be a shaft. I don’t want to be pratting around with chain lube and adjustment every week. Rather be riding than fixing it. IMHO. Keep up the great work TMF.
@motogroover27895 жыл бұрын
Everyone appears to be so negative about this bike. I think you should ride it before you bag it. I always said: "I'd never buy one of those GS bikes. They just look huge & hideous". Then I jumped on one, a GSA 1250 Rallye. She's 6 months old now! Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more! Fanx fliesy! Good to see someone had a go of her. Nice review. Cheers groovers ;-)
@chrismountford29515 жыл бұрын
Great review as always TMF. I can't see why people slag these off so much. Anything that gets people onto bikes, 2 or 3 wheels, is alright with me. If people feel more confident with 3 wheels then why not?
@mikepoirier33515 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest advantage of this is the safety of having two contact patches on the front. It could save your ass in a sand strewn corner or in a panic braking situation. I demoed one. The front suspension was awesome. The rear felt crude by comparison. It was super comfortable. I'm personally not a fan of the 900 engine. I find it to be buzzy. This would be awesome with the MT10 engine.
@jimbandit1250sa4 жыл бұрын
Marmite but the point is 80% more grip and most riders me included always worry about front end going. This machine takes that worry away and I for one cannot wait to buy one. Cracking review Andy😎👌😀🏍
@TheMissendenFlyer4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Szlejer5 жыл бұрын
You are only negative about this bike until you ride it. ;) The handling is superb, stability and grip on a rainy winter day is simply unreal, it pisses on sport bikes when it comes to cornering speed...
@skf9573 жыл бұрын
I love the look of it, and the engineering alone is a thing of beauty. My heart wants one, but my head says "no"! But then again I said years ago that I wouldn't have ANY bike again....
@iamtherealzombie5 жыл бұрын
One thing I must say is brilliant is the standard LCD screen doesn't go all blurry as soon as you top 80mph. *edit* Nevermind, I guess it only works properly on the motorway. *edit to the edit* I'm also fairly certain I watched a Yamaha press video where they said it's pronounced "Nee-ken"?
@Gorbyrev5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. Strikes me as a perfect sports tourer. This is a bike for motorway and A road commutes and big miles. For me the third wheel is an innovation like anti-dive brakes or even the reverse gear on a Goldwing. It solves a series of problems that gives you a different riding experience. That planted front end benefits from a double contact patch and the levels of comfort appear to be exceptional. So this is a competitor to the Goldwing or the other big sports tourers which makes the price seem more reasonable. MT-10 is a daddy of a hooligan bike, this is something different. Hats off to Yamaha for making this work.
@simonhughes-king5 жыл бұрын
At last, a considered and knowledgeable opinion!
@RichardASK3 жыл бұрын
Another great review Andy. In my garage I have a little Piaggio MP3 300cc. You hit the nail right on the head in 2 ways. First about these 3 wheelers feeling "planted" at the front end, especially on poorer or wet surfaces. I have yet to have a go on one of these Nikens, but your last 'nail on the head' for me was, 'would you buy one of these or an MT10'. Well, I've got one and the only way I'd consider getting rid of the MT10, is if they put an MT10 engine into a Niken. Now, there's a thought!
@Quickblood15 жыл бұрын
I'm almost 100% sure this will be my next bike. I loved my Tricity and I just think this will do me, just the price is a lot more than I've ever spent on a vehicle.
@simonhughes-king5 жыл бұрын
@Rata 4U It's not a trike ffs
@scottnineteen4 жыл бұрын
@Rata 4U idiot
@scottnineteen4 жыл бұрын
what the Missenden Flyer bloke here failed to appreciate is the performance/safety advantage you get from the two front wheels. Yes it's plush (which is a result of many bumps being not absorbed but more ignored by the pivoting parallelogram lever control of the front wheel height) but what really nails it is you've either got a really freaking grippy and fast front end, or a really freaking safe front end, and you get to decide at every corner which it is. No shit, it's like a luxury starship cruiser which corners like a 600RR only unlike a sports bike it feels way more stable and planted and assured at the front while cornering and is likely faster through the corner than any bike you've ridden. Certainly once you've got a sticky rear tyre on it...and I have - it's fantasy motorcycling.
@thinkingoutofthebox.94215 жыл бұрын
The reason I think for not a usb socket is a standard socket is more functional , you can plug in a 3amp phone fast charger and air bed pump and tire inflator ect...
@michalrybinski32335 жыл бұрын
I'd say the difference is quite simple, USB can only give you 5V/1A and standard socket gives you 12V and however Amps your receiver needs. I guess there is a lot of stuff that is powered by the higher voltage and more demanding on the power. But this is just my guess.
@caroldave40375 жыл бұрын
Cost is a early problem then new design aceptance....but two up touring on bad crappy wet potholed roads it's amazing ....cheers from dave..
@dsimon9s295 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting. I get the feeling this bike will be a commercial failure (I hope I am wrong), but will become a cult/collectible favorite in a few years. I wonder how the suspension/bike would behave on a dirt road with a few bumps? Better or worse than a GS type bike? Regardless, kudos to Yamaha. Great job thinking outside the box!
@SkuStyle5 жыл бұрын
You need to push & throw the NIKEN into some twist'es to fully understand what it truly is for. Get to feel that extra 80% grip over 2 wheel bikes then I'm sure you'll be raving more about it like others.
@fabianz63365 жыл бұрын
Rata 4U It just minimalizes the chances of you losing grip while doing this. Why not enjoy some more safety while risking your life?
@charliesadv849311 ай бұрын
If it had a shaft instead of chaindrive, I would definitely wanted one of these. Love the look of the bike
@stevo74545 жыл бұрын
Just can't really see the point in it, why not just get a mt09 tracer🤔
@stevenkelby21695 жыл бұрын
The purpose is that (especially if you ride on wet /slippery roads,) this is much safer and gives much more confidence.
@simonhughes-king5 жыл бұрын
The 80% more front end grip? The extra weight and mechanicals seems like a good trade for 80% more grip at the front. My biggest fear is always a low side crash, especially in the wet.
@CanTURKeyed5 жыл бұрын
you see the point in wet and on shitty road. brilliant machine; well done yamaha.
@boomerhgt4 жыл бұрын
Can TURK Just use experience and take care you won't need this monstrosity
@richiektm5 жыл бұрын
If I was after a second bike to go touring on it would be a serious contender plus I love the looks of it, some people are too eager to slag things off even before riding a bike!
@Dean_Cooling3 жыл бұрын
Just a quick hello…..I’ve got one. The GT version. Rode the other day with 3 guys, one on a 1250GS and the other two on litre sport bikes. Was on typical Welsh winding roads, in typical conditions…had rained 30mins earlier. To keep it short, I left them standing. I’m a very average rider, it was down to the bike. Folks ask who it’s for….it’s the ultimate British bike. Most of the time it’s raining or just crappy weather wise. This lets you ride at 100%, 100% of the time, rather than just in perfect conditions which we get 20% of the time.
@JIMWSMITH2 жыл бұрын
@@Dean_Cooling iam going to be buying one shortly there a fantastic second hand buy. It's unique and does its job extremely well.
@robertbates10795 жыл бұрын
I tried one out and was pleasantly surprised how easy it is to ride . Wet roundabouts in winter would be more reassuring to ride on, lovely sounding bike, about as wide as a gl1800 goldwing , people tend to move out of your way when filtering, but 15k, don't think I would buy one either.. good review similar to my thoughts tmf.
@haveyoueverwondered235 жыл бұрын
Yeeessssss been waiting for this review to drop from you TMF!!!
@carlton6835 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for a fab review a great start to the day thanks tony
@TheMissendenFlyer5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Tony - appreciate the kind comment!
@marcr6609075 жыл бұрын
I’m really intrigued as to why this bike actually exists, I understand it may offer a stable platform, but other than the novelty of it, I don’t think it has any real life merit. It was nice to get to know it a bit better via your first impression review, as always well executed and informative. Thanks TMF.
@simonhughes-king5 жыл бұрын
Jeez, how many more times. **80% more grip at the front**
@portaltwo5 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant answer to a question no one asked.
@twowheelsoneleg56725 жыл бұрын
I've had a couple of test rides on the Niken and where the front end comes into its own is in the wet or rough/pot holed roads. The stability in those conditions is impressive. Its the weight of a decent ADV bike but instead of "off road" ability you get extra on road ability. Let's face it the UK gets lots of rain and the state of the roads is shocking so in some ways its the perfect bike for the UK all weather rider. Its great to see Yamaha trying something different. I am tempted but need a little more time and another ride. Great review as always
@duncanmillar2775 жыл бұрын
Nice review as usual TMF. Just looks all wrong to me coupled with added burden/cost of maintenance: brake fluid/pads, fork oil/seals and tyres. Wouldn't be so bad if it stood up on it's own... :-)
@simonhughes-king5 жыл бұрын
Minor added cost for ****80%***** more grip at the front, don't ya think? Same number of fork oil/seals, pads and brakes as a regular bike. The two front tyres don't wear as fast as a single front tyre.
@oliverespidol58125 жыл бұрын
If it’s about stability and safety for which this bike was engineered, i would not mind spending extra than going to the hospital from low end crash..
@Tom-zy6ke4 жыл бұрын
Credit to Yamaha for trying something new, but it does appear to be a solution looking for a problem.
@Ontheroadtourism2 жыл бұрын
I am returning to motorcycling after a six year break and I've just put a deposit down on a Niken GT. The extra front end grip and the heavily discounted price tipped my choice from a T Max to a Niken.
@TheMissendenFlyer2 жыл бұрын
At least you’ll be fairly unique on the road!
@GregsRandomShite5 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on an adventure version of this thing? Spoked wheels, off-road tyres...it looks like the two front wheels would help a lot with stability and traction on dirt and rough terrain. It would still be a freak, but at least it would be a freak with real purpose then. I can imagine a fully kitted out black or khaki one looking quite formidable too. Maybe even a big shark mouth like an attack aircraft. Cannons. Ok but you get the idea.
@marcostrange43312 жыл бұрын
Great review as always sir enjoyed it so much that it convinced me to buy one,second hand mind but still a fantastic machine,thanks and keep up the great work...
@dendren015 жыл бұрын
A pal of mine who is a m/c journalist took one out for a review the other week. I had a good look around it, and he enjoyed the ride. However, neither of us could figure the target market. Other than for novelty value, who would buy it and why?
@simonhughes-king5 жыл бұрын
I'll buy one because of the 80% more grip at the front. It feels stable and strong and solid. In Ireland it rains 30% more than the UK. You need to ride one, then it's obvious why it's so good.
@aeon87215 жыл бұрын
I haven't ridden it, but asked an instructor and bike journo who had done exactly that question. He reckoned 'It's for nerdy technology buffs and early adopters. For people who aren't motorcycle traditionalists; for those who don't care what others think and want to ride in all weathers without worrying about grip.' So a test ride is in the future; that's me to a T.
@malcolmnuttall31655 жыл бұрын
This bike is a full size version, of what Gilera, Piaggio, and Yamaha themselves with the TriCity, have achieved, maximised grip and stability, but it needs 4 forks to control the g-forces on the wheels, adding extra cost again, here in Australia, Yamaha dealer, Trooper Lu's Garage, have built a in-house Turbo Niken, that could be a option for Yamaha to consider.
@simonhughes-king5 жыл бұрын
It has the same number of forks per wheel as a regular bike. It has nothing to do with G-force. And actually one fork per side is suspension, the other one is there for wheel alignment, so it has the same number of fork seals etc as a regular bike. That turbo Niken is a beast.
@Jonathan-L4 жыл бұрын
Yamaha should have put the MT10 engine in this bike.
@boscoman695 жыл бұрын
The bike is aimed in my mind for someone that wants a bike but might not be comfortable on a 2 wheeler & doesn't want a CanAm. Or for someone as myself who as they get older are having a harder time dealing with large top heavy modern bikes, but again, still wants to ride, but not a CanAm. Looking forward to test riding one.
@TheMissendenFlyer5 жыл бұрын
You wouldn’t be more comfortable on this as it doesn’t stand up on its own....
@boscoman695 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer Well let me ask this, is it still more stable at a stop than a normal bike? Especially if you had a passenger?
@djwarren50815 жыл бұрын
I quite like it in a quirky kind of way. Pretty stable in the wet when braking I'd imagine.
@kemosabe15 жыл бұрын
Complex design - solves a problem that doesn't exist
@richiektm5 жыл бұрын
Paul Sabey have you ridden one?
@robhives69965 жыл бұрын
Cant think of a better way to open up motorcycles to Scandinavian countries. This is a true all weather all year round machine.
@captainwin63335 жыл бұрын
@@robhives6996 That's what cars are for.
@kemosabe15 жыл бұрын
@@richiektm Hi Ritchie. No I haven't ridden one. But having watched TMF's review he didn't say there was anything revolutionary about this doubled up front end. As I understand it it's based on the MT09 but costs £5k more (£13.5k vs £8.4k) and weighs 74kg more (267kg vs 193kg). That's like carrying an extra pillion around permanently. So it'll inevitably use more fuel. And more tyres .. especially if the two front wheels get even slightly out of alignment. I see a lot of cost .. but not a great benefit. Have you ridden one? What does it do that a two wheel bike can't and justifies this extra cost / weight ? I'm genuinely interested!
@robhives69965 жыл бұрын
Transport is changing with e-bikes and scooters throughout our cities, motorcycling needs to remain relevant. This is just one Avenue, why knock it.
@benstabile84935 жыл бұрын
I think it's GREAT that designers and engineers are broadening the available choices. This "riding season" (I actually ride all year), I have been noticing more and more three-wheeled vehicles out on nice days: Spyders, Slingshots, TRiOs, HD Freewheelers and Trio Ultra-Glides, you name it. It's obvious Yamaha has ignored the naysayers and are looking to expand into a growing category. Another thing I've noticed is that riders on traditional motorcycles acknowledge these alternative powersport riders with the usual "wave" of comraderie.
@stephenbartholomew21435 жыл бұрын
11.34: "Looking at me with incredulity". There aren't many KZbin sites that show such a command of the English language while riding a motorbike, especially one with 3 wheels. Nice review. Not sure about the 3 wheels but I like the colour! Better than orange or green I think!
@colindeans59725 жыл бұрын
I was primed to append an 'oh, no, no, no comment' but was positively surprised by your review. As a tourer, it makes a good bit of sense as for every day, I'm not so sure. I'll await TMF part deux. Thanks again.
@bren1065 жыл бұрын
Long awaited is your dip of a metaphoric toe into the three wheel market. The Niken massively appeals to my "square peggedness" if that is a recognised term for it. Now I hope you can get a ride/review on the Peugeot Metropolis, which is a lot nearer my price range.
@Apeshower4 жыл бұрын
From my view point- this is a really interesting concept. Having read a good number of comments it’s apparent it splits opinion widely and many bike riders dismiss it and wouldn’t take change. It’s more likely the first people to give this a good will be car drivers looking for a quicker commute but who don’t like the idea of a motorbike and crappy roads in the UK. Would seem to suit the idea of a decent sized engine with plenty of grunt. It’s probably a pity really because I bet it would otherwise save a few serious injuries. Let’s see what the future brings....
@SteveBrigden5 жыл бұрын
Finally a manufacturer that has the speedo sorted out so it doesn't go all blurry at higher speeds like all your other videos! ;-)
@diemman705 жыл бұрын
It just has the alien look to it. I’ll have to ride one before they disappear from no sales.
@Dan-565 жыл бұрын
I may be mistaken, but I think there are countries where some 3 wheeled vehicles do not require a motorcycle operators license. (?) Yamaha May be thinking is a way to bring new riders into the sport with out the hassle of having to get a “special” license. Hoping to then hook them on the hobby. 🤔
@davidgault93955 жыл бұрын
A full category A license would be needed for this.
@richardd99765 жыл бұрын
Very interesting review - and good to see a manufacturer trying something different and pushing the development a bit. It's not a bike I'd choose (don't like the look of it), but I admire the engineering ingenuity. Thanks.
@Don-lw4cb5 жыл бұрын
Good first review, it will be good to hear your final summing up when you've had more time with it.
@The3335 жыл бұрын
"...looking at me with incredulity" lol - TMF is the best!
@stephenbartholomew21435 жыл бұрын
I made a similar comment without seeing this one. It was my favourite line in the review. TMF has super powers to see through helmets as well!
@gcosmos9605 жыл бұрын
I prefer a Piaggio MP3. 14K for 263kg 900cc bike... They won't sell many. Great review TMF
@TheMissendenFlyer5 жыл бұрын
No I don’t think they are sadly - hats off to Yamaha for trying something radical though eh?
@dualsportwannabe37085 жыл бұрын
Dealers have them on back order in the states. At least around where I live. A person couldn't get one right now if they wanted to here. It just seems to be a much better option than the Can Am Spyder to me, and I think that's probably the general consensus of the individuals considering one or the other.
@gcosmos9605 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer indeed! Hats off for trying ;-) but at least consider using an R1 engine
@keithwilliams5155 жыл бұрын
Fine initial review. Thank you. Please try and find a pillion for a decent ride. Would really, really appreciate your thoughts on the balance, touring ability, ride, comfort, etc on the GT. Had a quick look and the Niken is 885mm wide, found the width of the BMW GSA as quoted by BMW as 990mm, interesting if those dimensions are correct. I'm sure someone will correct me if this is inaccurate. Ride safe, cheers.
@pinkiewerewolf5 жыл бұрын
I'd much prefer the Niken over a CanAm three-wheeled bike.
@TheMissendenFlyer5 жыл бұрын
I’d love a go on a can am though wouldn’t you?
@pinkiewerewolf5 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer I'd like to run the new model, I think it is the Ryker? Seems sportier, a bit more aggressive.
@perhaps61125 жыл бұрын
Nice review as always TMF. I think the answer to the repeated question Why?; is the great improvement in handling over a normal two wheeled bike. I've not ridden one but this is what comes across from your review and others who have pushed it much harder on the track etc. Against that there are downsides like increased cost, of both purchase and maintenance, against aTracer GT or similar and additional weight too. As everyone says, it's unlikely to sell in great volume but I think it's great. I've noticed too that a lot of online comments come from people who don't understand it, thinking it can stand up unaided when parked or that it's some sort of older weaker person's bike. In fact you have to treat it the same as a normal two wheeler but as you say one that feels more planted on the road and with outstanding handling. Would I buy one? (and I'm someone who changes bikes frequently and have three at present. Tiger 800, Kawa Z900RS, Honda Supercub 125) Probably not but I won't rule it out entirely.
@open_water24115 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, I thought the Niken would stand on its 3 wheels without the use of a side stand? 🤷♂️
@dothetontim5 жыл бұрын
Would add weight/complexity to lock up the front suspension like the MP3 does. I'd rather not have a mechanism to lock up my front suspension just waiting to activate when the gremlins decide it's a good idea. This thing is a solution to a problem nobody has.
@nigelcnash5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. That would be a useful USP albeit not one for the purists.
@MrTimberob5 жыл бұрын
I'm with you, I thought it would stand up for itself. If it's going to fall over I don't get the point?
@theyoutubeguy15 жыл бұрын
That will suck as it will just topple over if the boxes are full.
@LOTPOR04025 жыл бұрын
@@dothetontim You could say the same about a steering lock though
@Northernlanes5 жыл бұрын
A little extra thing I'd like you to look at in your reviews would be to have a quick look under the seats to see what 'cargo' space there is, a small but significant thing for us guys that need a location for our Autocoms, small tool kit, puncture kits etc
@TheMissendenFlyer5 жыл бұрын
Good idea! - I'll add it to my long term review list!
@teneretraveller89805 жыл бұрын
No USB? Because usb charge at 5v and cigarette lighter sockets charge at 12v. Hence car type gps devices won't run at full brightness. I learned this from experience.... Happy travels
@ratsac5 жыл бұрын
These look so weird. They’ve been using them this year as camera platforms in pro-cycling races. Looked pretty planted in the Paris-Roubaix over rough cobbled farm tracks.
@Porsche996driver5 жыл бұрын
tinnedspicedham Oh well that’s one use-case as camera bikes with their smooth ride perhaps. But today’s cameras have stabilizers anyway hmmm.
@spetersonmusic5 жыл бұрын
Too unique to ignore, too ugly to love, functional and practical? Seems like it has a place. I cannot come up with a way to get over how awkward it looks personally. But I do not think I am the target customer. It is fascinating to learn about.
@simonthomas53675 жыл бұрын
Very interesting machine. You see loads of MP3 scooters here in Lyon. Powerful, practical and accessible with a drivers license. But I still prefer my Xmax in the city as it is way more manouverable and lighter. And my big bugbear is that all 3 wheel scooters are completely fugly. This Niken looks amazing and I even recognize my Xmax headlights in the styling. Would be very interesting for you to try this in the wet and again in the Winter. Got to respect the amazing engineering. Bet it makes an superb long distance tourer.
@G3A35 жыл бұрын
i think the mistake they made with this bike is the fact that it can't stay upright on its own without the side stand, sort of defeats the reason for having the extra wheel imo, cheers.
@simonhughes-king5 жыл бұрын
Jeez, how many more times. ***80% more grip at the front***
@robertakerson44175 жыл бұрын
Mr. Flyer- You have done another fine job on this review. This is however the one bike out of all you have looked at which is least interesting to me. I reckon though that there must be only one winner is the contest for The World's Ugliest Motorcycle, and this machine may possibly be found desirable by the crowd who ride trikes and three-wheelers .
@abudhabidel12 ай бұрын
Do I consider one of these as I'm finding my 1250GS a little heavy - not whilst riding - really just when I'm manoeuvring in and out of parking spaces or even my garage....reverse would be handy! ..not sure....great review. Cheers!
@TheMissendenFlyer2 ай бұрын
No not for that reason - the bike won't not fall over if you let it (you still have to balance it when you wheel it around)
@RuiAquino5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Good looking bike and a very complete review, as usual! Thanks!
@TheMissendenFlyer5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@antonoat5 жыл бұрын
Like you I love he front end looks, like the looks altogether actually. Great review TMF, thanks for sharing this was looking forward to it! Cheers.
@AlexanderGeorgiev-Marck5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic reviews Niken GT and FJR 1300 2019. Thank you
@Banditmanuk5 жыл бұрын
When I rode one I thought it was great on rough roads and fantastic braking, found it didn't appear to stand the bike up braking while cornering (know you should have braked before the corner) I would still take an MT09 or Tracer 900 GT over the Niken, it's just the weight, the cost and tank size which is too small to be a good tourer.
@Desmo9044 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there must be some reason for it but I can't help but think a front wishbone connecting the two front wheels with a single shock absorber would have been better and a damn sight lighter than the option Yamaha opted for with 4 fork legs. There are bikes that use that method of operation already, it works. (Piaggio etc) Looks over engineered to me. (and heavy) Also, one benefit from a front wishbone swingarm is that you can lock it in a central position so it won't fall over and it doesn't need a side stand.
@georgehatcher88675 жыл бұрын
Each to their own, not for me. You mentioned chain oiling, have you ever used a Scotoiler, I get tremendous chain life out of mine
@Dereksol5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps an extra wheel on the back would make it more popular?I'm old and don't like change much.
@Bass.Player5 жыл бұрын
Why? From the front it looks like a shipping container loader, and they are expensive. I wonder if Yamaha has sold any?
@JBlank.5 жыл бұрын
I saw a guy with one leg test riding one when I went to test ride my mt07
@simonhughes-king5 жыл бұрын
They've sold all of them they've made this year. All of them. Because when you ride it, you understand.
@Bass.Player5 жыл бұрын
@@simonhughes-king never seen one and I ride dailey
@Banditmanuk5 жыл бұрын
@@simonhughes-king I've ridden one. In isolation it rides really well and over rough wet roads its fantastic. But it's as heavy as an FJR, expensive, limited tank range and on normal dry roads the MT09 and Tracer will out perform the Niken. It's a great engineering exercise by Yamaha but loads of prejudice against this bike by folks who haven't ridden it. Personally I would not buy one as I've never worried about lack of front grip on two wheels.
@simonhughes-king5 жыл бұрын
@@Banditmanuk Interesting. My number one worry is a front end low side crash, especially in the wet.
@Dean_Cooling3 жыл бұрын
I have a Niken GT. So…..Who’s this bike…( yes it’s a bike. Look up what a trike is) whos this bike aimed at? Those who ride all year round in Britain would be a good starting point. These figures aren’t accurate, but it’s for the purpose of this analogy…..This bike if ridden in the UK enables you to ride at 100%, 100% of the time, rather than 20% of the time when conditions are perfect in the 2 weeks of UK summer! 😉. I’ve had all types of bikes, by all types of manufacturers and in all sorts of engine capacities. Unless something drastic changes, I won’t be selling this bike. No it’s not a trike. No Yamaha didn’t want it to stand up unaided. Unless damaged no you don’t change just one front tyre, but yes the two front tyres wear down a lot slower as are under a lot less stresses than a single tyre. Yes it makes even the crappiest of roads feel smooth. Add the fact my version comes with ABS, 3 rider modes, traction control that can be adjusted, heated grips, the ability to change the suspension ‘On the fly’ , two power outlets, rides like a ‘normal’ bike but on rails, will leave most sports cars standing and a surprising amount of sports bikes…..including the litre bikes ridden by folks who have one for ego reasons and don’t have the skill to properly use a litre bike on public roads 😉, is very comfortable etc etc and I’m left with plenty of reasons why I’m happy with it, and I ignore the reasons given to me of why I shouldn’t be happy with it, or it’s not a good idea long term etc…almost always stated by folks who haven’t even ridden one!?!?! 🤔🤔🤬 If it interests you, give one a go.👍🏼 It’s a bloody good bike.
@karlosh24225 жыл бұрын
As for filtering, I guess try the Mod1 test exercises of slalom twiddling through cones!
@Carvetii5 жыл бұрын
I bet its an absolute brilliant continental cruiser
@user_mac01535 жыл бұрын
It looks like the front half of a Lunar Rover that has been welded to an 'Adventure Bike' frame. Does it need power steering for shifty surfaces like sand and mud, there's a lot of added rolling resistance out front.
@malone-np3ip3 ай бұрын
I like it perhaps 4 forks seem bit ott but advantage amazing front end grip be cool try tricity my boss loves his and he a car guy but uses it for mail delivery.
@malcolmabram29573 жыл бұрын
With three wheels does it need a centre stand, or indeed any stand? In my early days I drove a reliant Robin (and such was classified as a bike on the V5, and yes it was classified as a bike) but such had no centre stand. This bike is not a bike, but a trike, but its one redeeming feature for me, is its low speed or indeed zero speed maneuverability and such is not to be underestimated. Nice to stop at a roundabout without caring whether one will drop it or not. Of late, I was in the hunt for returning to motorcycling. Bought a boxer BMW partly due to.its low centre of gravity (and its engine sounds so good), test rode a Triumph Tiger 1200, great bike once when one is at speed, but scared the pants on me on roundabouts, and yes if I had bought it I am sure I would have dropped it by now, even in my garage.
@TheMissendenFlyer3 жыл бұрын
Yes it does need a stand - you can drop this just like a bike, it doesn't stand up on it's own....
@dandydelta185 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't mention the safety aspect of these bikes with the extra front grip and better braking with two wheels I have a MP3 500 abs and that's the reason I have this bike
@paulstredwick5 жыл бұрын
This would probably be a fantastic machine - if no one had ever made a two-wheeled motorcycle. Very interesting review though.
@12masterr5 жыл бұрын
I did a demo ride in Daytona and I like it,but the riding position was a little on the sporty side,like the footpegs were more rearward that I like. I must be getting old but after getting used to the gs, everything else feels uncomfortable! Lol
@alexbristol51995 жыл бұрын
Hi TMF, great reviews. Any chance when you do your walk around the bikes you can start engine up so we can see what the daytime running lights look like and when a bike has twin headlights we can see if both are used or not. For me I find most bike headlights not as good as cars so using both is always a plus point for buying that bike. Cheers.
@TheMissendenFlyer5 жыл бұрын
Good idea! Thanks for watching Alex!
@mukundnadkarni5 жыл бұрын
The bike that put's your brain in limbo. Can't decide either way!😊
@zidisrider Жыл бұрын
Hey Andy,im still to get one right now. 2021 model seems good value,should i pull the trigger ? Only for travelling outside,not london or city.
@TheMissendenFlyer Жыл бұрын
If you like it why not! (Cost of tyres/maintenance may be a reason….)
@motovlogger71984 жыл бұрын
I own its smaller powered Tricity your definitely in an exclusive club with these 3 wheelers. Certainly not taken more serious in UK whether it be scoot or motorbike
@colinvincent65995 жыл бұрын
The styling always makes me think it looks like Clive Sinclair had a hand in it. Wonder what tyre wear is like given it will be expensive changing 3
@brankojerbic60405 жыл бұрын
Great review and a very interesting bike. Hats off to Yamaha for putting it into production. Very different thats for sure ... I wonder if the front wheel alingment will become an issue in the future ? Positives being more grip on wet roads. However it does look like a Ski-doo so can you swap the front wheels for skis / skids ? But seriously the price is almost a new basic Bmw R1250RT for example, almost the same weight but less practical and not the same quality... I suppose the question is what will the residuals be like on this bike ( trike ) when you get over the novelty and want to change to something with 2 wheels ? However, Piaggio are still selling their 3 wheeled scooters so people obviously like the concept.
@user_mac01535 жыл бұрын
Great thought.
@rockafella16905 жыл бұрын
Funny you mention about the front end of bikes feeling a bit flighty. Being an owner of a Tracer 900, this is something that is apparent at high speeds on the bike, and a bit annoying tbh. Has a reputation for it.
@everythinggaming79385 жыл бұрын
Next bank holiday is in august you got me excited thought i was going to have a day off work soon😔😔😔😔
@TheMissendenFlyer5 жыл бұрын
Sorry - I recorded this a fair few weeks ago...
@stuarthearn98905 жыл бұрын
cruise is essential, try steering arm out, arms to left bike goes right, great fun
@mrcintheuk46415 жыл бұрын
I'd have this as an all weather touring bike or long distance commuter, and still cheaper than many a touring BMW, Ducati, Harley, etc. I imagine that exclusivety for someone with that sort of money to spend would also be a draw. Shame you didn't get a feeling of the additional grip by going around a roundabout a few times, but appreciate it was a brand new bike. Edit: Forgot to mention that in London there are many Piaggio MP3 scooters (three wheelers) used by hard core commuters because of the additional grip given from this type of bike, so the concept can't really be disputed. They're just far more affordable and used for a different purpose. I.e. not leisure.
@markbright78455 жыл бұрын
Well it seemed to pick up speed quickly enough when you did your overtake manoeuvre. I can’t see why you would go for the non-GT model. Full luggage would make the most of the touring ethos. Interesting to see whether the rarity affects the insurance cost, or the spares availability. I suppose none of the other manufacturers have gone down this route if Yamaha hold a patent, but until they do, I can’t see the style taking off. The extra grip makes sense for all year use though.