2022 Moto Guzzi V7 Stone Review 4K

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TheMissendenFlyer

TheMissendenFlyer

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@rumblin_cynth_rampo374
@rumblin_cynth_rampo374 2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for you comments on this one for a while so thanks. I got my V7 850 (a Black Stone one like you tested) in June last year have clocked up 18K miles on him now. Totally agree with comments about the suspension, which is a vast improvement on the previous V7s. but still could be better The switch gear is fine except for the DRL/dip/main switch I find it easy to go from main back down to DRL and by pass dip beam. Not a problem unless you ride a lot at night. The gearbox eases up after 3 or 4k, but is never snickable and I wouldnt try clutchless changes on it. Handling is fab. I love the head light and the instrument console (but I am a bit of an outlier there). The fuel tank can easily give you a 300 mile range. The sidestand on the bike you rode needs greasing, I have to do mine regularly. The engine is a peach and where I would be gearing down to 3rd for over takes on a my V7III, 4th 5th is more than adequate on the 850. Ive added a Givi screen and H&B luggage and that mkes the bike a very capable tourer. The longest single day ride was 525miles.from Argyllshire down to the very bottom of South Wales. The seat is fine but if you ride for 4 hours straight your bum will complain. Im a shorty arse at 5'6" with 29" leg have no problem flat footing this bike. Its easy to push around (way easier than the 96 Guzzi Nevada I have which is lighter). I found its definitely easier to move than a Triumph Speedtwin that I had to move for a friend Problems I have had have been few. I got an engine check light on at 13K the dealer reset this. The ECL was caused by a misfire and a incorrect O2 sensor reading. ECL light hasnt come on since. The other was the rear brake caliper. Sadly the rear calipers arent lovely opposed piston Brembos but 2 piston single side sliding calipers. The cailper is placed in pssibley the worst position ever at the bottom of the disk where all the crudde gathers. I need to change my rear pads at 16K but couldnt as one of the retaining pins was siezed solid (it doesnt help that they are also made with thread retainer). Gave the caliper to a machine shop and they had a go at removing the pin. Their estimate labort cost was about the same price as a new caliper. So I fitted a new caliper after carefully taking the pad retaining pins out and making sure they are well greased. I'll now make sure I regularly clean the rear caliper and regrease the pins. I use my bike almost daily, for a 40 mile commute and long fun runs at weekend. It works great as a commuter, tourer or just a good fun bike. Having also ridden the bike in winter and got it covered in salty road crud (making) sure it was covered with ACF50/XCP) it has stood up remarkably well. Better than I expected to be honest.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the real world feedback, appreciate you taking the time to comment - all the best, Andy.
@MarkHSPR
@MarkHSPR 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently the engine check light has been a known problem for years! And for a number of people it just keeps on coming back, which I really don’t think I could handle. I love everything about the bike though and I’m a shorty like you. I know that I’m either going to get this or the street twin (V7 is more expensive here in Australia) but that eco is pushing me towards the triumph! Guess I’ll ride them back to back before I decide.
@Rower30-ye6qn
@Rower30-ye6qn 3 ай бұрын
Your comments are very accurate on the bike. have the V7 850 TEN model (I like shiny paint). The rear brake is a known issue so remove the pins and grease every year for sure. Mine runs real well with what ever MAP it has and I detect no problems at all so far (2,000 miles). It's as good as my V100S for sure on throttle MAP. The rear Japaneses KYB are pretty good 2024 for a stock and retro design. The front forks are not as good, really. I may do a winter time cartridge fork drop-in...maybe. They are breaking in more and more so I feel the shudders on ripples less and less. They may make a lier out of me. I'm too light at 140 pounds to push past the sticktion on a new suspension so it takes more time. This V7 bike is so easy to ride well, though. Super stable handling is very confidence inspiring. I feel better on the V7 than my V100S. the V100S is way too aggressive all the time. That's fine sometimes, but I missed the cool laid back nature of my old 1992 BMW R100RT so I went back and bough the V7. Yep, I love the opposite personality of the two bikes. The V7 is way more frisky than the old BMW, but it is a bike YOU ride and one that doesn't ride YOU. The V100S will tear you up given the chance. Both good, but both way, way different.
@paulgray3013
@paulgray3013 2 жыл бұрын
Got the 2021 V7 as my first bike passing my test last September. Put 6000 miles on it with no issues. Regularly get 250 miles on a tank with miles left. I wanted a bike that felt like something my dad would have ridden before they become too sanitised or all electric and I love it! Great review, cheers 🍻
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@bikerbeliever8169
@bikerbeliever8169 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah got same bike 6000 plus miles, great Characterful bike. Motor is a charm, handles good, turns in effortlessly.
@paulgray3013
@paulgray3013 2 жыл бұрын
@@bikerbeliever8169 yeah I watched your channel, and reviews when researching the v7 😊
@Conrad1867
@Conrad1867 2 жыл бұрын
Love this part: " I wanted a bike that felt like something my dad would have ridden before they become too sanitised or all electric and I love it!"
@paulgray3013
@paulgray3013 2 жыл бұрын
@@Conrad1867 thank you sir 🙏
@sergentcolon1
@sergentcolon1 2 жыл бұрын
The lack of a fuel gauge will require the technique we used when most bikes didn’t have one, resetting the trip meter when you fill up. You will then get to know roughly how many miles you have left before you need to refuel. Failing that it’s the old trick of opening the fuel cap and shaking the bike to see how much is sloshing about? Always fancied a Moto Guzzi, loved the old airhead BMW’s for the torque reaction and vibration.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@andyaptc2907
@andyaptc2907 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe got a reserve tank switch ?
@stevec6427
@stevec6427 2 жыл бұрын
The same technique I have to use with my 2012 Bonneville. The trip meter becomes the fuel gauge
@splodge57
@splodge57 2 жыл бұрын
Been resetting the trip when I fill up for 50 years. Far more accurate than most fuel gauges.
@SteveInskip
@SteveInskip 2 жыл бұрын
Have a look on KZbin for ‘Leo Wanker Moto Jump’ for the correct way to do it! 😉👍 (from the Paul Hogan Show in the ‘80’s)
@justinmckeown9029
@justinmckeown9029 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved the V7 special after I took one for a test ride. Comfortable, characterful, easy to ride, and low maintenance. My current fleet has a Ducati Streetfighter 848, 848 EVO and a 996 (just for reference to what I’m used to) and found power on the Guzzi surprisingly sufficient. It’s a wonderful ‘clear your head’ kind of bike, and the first I’ve ridden in a long time that doesn’t urge you on to ride frantically. I can’t wait until the spring, when one gets to come home with me!
@davidphillips7255
@davidphillips7255 6 ай бұрын
This bike allows me in my 70's to ride twice as far with zero fatigue, yet it's genuinely fun to ride. It just glides along with minimal effort when that's what I want or it can be more enjoyable in the mountain twisties than any bike I've ever owned. Add in the shaft, so no more crawling around on the ground and I'm in love . That is ; except for the lack of a blank blank gas gauge. The wonderfully comfortable seat is just the cherry on top.
@guypurdy654
@guypurdy654 Жыл бұрын
Had two Moto Guzzis, agree with the comments. The 850 is an improvement over the 750. Plus points; very easy to work on and customise. No chain maintenance. Build quality excellent, under rated, significantly better than other well known brands I've owned. Surprisingly sure footed at speed on Motorways and A roads. The only real minus point is the suspension which needs upgrading to deal with some rough unclassified back roads luckily a cheap fix. As long as Moto Guzzis are kept clean and regularly serviced they will provide many rewarding years and mileage of fun and reliable and economical motoring at very reasonable cost, now thinking of my third, question is which one!
@youtubeaccount9058
@youtubeaccount9058 Жыл бұрын
what suspension upgrades would you recommend?
@ColSnders
@ColSnders Жыл бұрын
For me, the biggest plus point of Moto Guzzi is their well-proven shaft drive. Been looking to replace my Indian Scout 60 which has no/low maintenance belt drive. For me, chain drive is making the case against Royal Enfield and Triumph.
@hughphillips1427
@hughphillips1427 Жыл бұрын
@@youtubeaccount9058I am sure Hagon shocks would be a good upgrade. They can make depending on your weight.
@robertparisi8016
@robertparisi8016 11 ай бұрын
@@ColSnders use to be a avid shaft drive guy, but just remember a few things: chain is much lighter, less wear on rear tire, chain good for 20k, easy to replace or repair, new chains are not loud or need lubrication as much, yes , u have to buy chain lube and rags, and adjusting needs a jack or centerstands, and rear wheel gets dirty more often but I am not that anti chain guy any longer, they also have a quicker response and your not going to get shaft up and down jolts in corners. I guess a goldwing or bmw 1600rt would not be appropriate with a chain lol
@Rower30-ye6qn
@Rower30-ye6qn 3 ай бұрын
Half is right. A shaft isn't hard on tires. I think you are wishing on outcomes. My V100S has over 11,000 miles on the stock angel GT2 tires and still going (not to the wear bars). How's the shaft impacting that kind of wear? Also modern shafts don't have that dreaded stiff rear end under acceleration. My V100S and my V7 850 are fine in that regard. My 31 year olds BMW R100RT did get stiff on acceleration, But that was a three decades ago design with a real short shaft length and geometry. So no, all a chain primarilly offers is weight and that's important in some circumstances. There is a small advantage on suspension compression but it is very slight on the street.
@elisabattle8456
@elisabattle8456 2 жыл бұрын
As far as Italian bikes, I have owned a ducati 860, moto morini 500 camel, laverda 3cl 1000, cagiva 650, and currently have a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 and a 2013 Moto Guzzi Stone 750. Have owned several German bikes to include BMW and Zundaps. Grew up with British bikes--meaning Triumph and BSA. Have never been interested in Harley. Owned several Suzuki's to include 2-stroke models and the Wankel rotary 500. The Moto Guzzis have been my favorite above all the rest. Quirky, reliable, tractor-like in that the Japanese "refinement" is not there--but if you love just being connected to machinery and sound--Moto Guzzi!--mike battle
@ragnarlothbrok4846
@ragnarlothbrok4846 2 жыл бұрын
Bought one new this year, and I absolutely love it. So light, loads of torque, sips fuel, looks gorgeous in matt black, very happy.
@frankpinion4937
@frankpinion4937 2 жыл бұрын
You're missing the point of the transverse V twin. 1/ it reduces vibration 2/ it is the easiest of layout's to work on for adjusting the valves clearances. Two things here-this will save you a considerable amount of money when it comes to servicing the tappets if you have a go yourself & it will also save you a considerable amount of time. 3/ The other benefit in cooler climates is that the cylinder heads offer your legs protection of sorts. Gearbox-so you obviously haven't ridden many shaft drive bikes as this is very typical with a shaft drive bike. You need to be very precise with your gear changes and blip the throttle on the change down through the gears. That's not a fault but typical with a shaft drive machine. You soon get used to it. You didn't like the led style on the front of the light. Again you can't know much about MotoGuzzi as that is the Eagle insignia which belongs to guzzi. Clutch may feel heavy because it's not hydraulic like some bikes which again is more simplistic but less to go wrong. Again you can go back to your comment that it is a simple bike, which it is-that's the way they've designed it for longevity & reliability as well as affordable servicing which you mentioned nothing about. 853 cc. Weight-depends if you've actually weighed it on a weigh bridge but I have with my MotoGuzzi Breava 750 with fuel/ oil & it was 200 kg wet. I also own a Royal Enfield Himalayan 411 cc single adventure bike & I put that on the same weigh bridge & it also come in at 200 kg wet weight. So I guess that would suggest that the Motoguzzi is quite a liteweight bike regardless of whether it has a shaft drive or not. Normal forks are an advantage in that they are less likely to pump fluid everywhere if the seal goes compared to upside down forks. The other bonus you failed to mention is the fork gators to protect your staunchion's and seals.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frank, for adding a little bit of light to my review. All the best.
@Rower30-ye6qn
@Rower30-ye6qn 3 ай бұрын
Funny, I'm not very precise on gear changes and any of that magic. I own a V100S and the V7 850 and both are same, same as my Japaneses bikes. Pull the clutch and shift. The dry clutch likes proper adjustment at the fee-play (80-mil or so) for two finger shifting but is isn't some weird lost art to shift these bikes at all. The aggressive V-twin torque makes clutchless shifts pretty abrupt, but use the speed shifter on the V100S for 2nd on up if you feel frisky. The V7 isn't even trying to be Rick Rocket so just learn do ordinary clutch shift like any bike and away you go. The front forks aren't the best and can use a cartridge mod for sure. A cheap winter time upgrade. The Japanese foreward mounted KYB rear are pretty good actually for standard shocks. The problem is that the suspension is not a modern semi-active and / or complex rising rate design. My V100S has about 5 inches of travel front and rear, same as the V7 but rides way differently so it isn't the travel, but the damping and spring rate complexity. That fancy V100S semi-active Ohlins is like near one-third or more the price of the entire V7! we need to be realstic about this. Ninety percent of the time the V7 stock suspension is perfectly fine for me. Yep, there are those UGH moments for sure.
@dungbeetle.
@dungbeetle. 2 жыл бұрын
Another good review Andy, which is absolutely spot on as usual. The love for Guzzis is very much a subjective thing of course, which tends to creep up on you over time. I have the 850 Special and that V twin pulse combined with the 'characterful' gearbox, lets you know in no uncertain terms that you're piloting a piece of machinery. I think that's why Guzzis are often cited as good alternatives to older classic bikes. Most modern bikes are pretty slick and can adapt to the rider. With Guzzis the rider adapts to the bike, just like in the old days. It's all part of the fun! Anyway, that's enough fanboyism for now. ;)
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I completely get that - thanks for watching and for stopping by!
@eulersusana9355
@eulersusana9355 2 жыл бұрын
i completely agree. i am a guzzista, myself. i have a 2019 v7 and a California touring 1400. if you like the character on the v7 imagine on a 1400cc. is unbelievable
@georgemills2302
@georgemills2302 2 жыл бұрын
I loved my V7 when I had it. Very basic, but all the better for it. Even at 198kg dry it’s still a lot lighter than a Bonneville (and carries it’s weight lower). I also loved the fact it had a shaft drive and massive fuel tank / frugal engine. Did some big tours round Scotland on mine in total comfort (although I did upgrade the suspension as it is cheap / harsh). Main thing is its’s something different, with a lot of character . Another great review 👍
@timothybrockbank7474
@timothybrockbank7474 2 жыл бұрын
What suspension upgrade did you do
@georgemills2302
@georgemills2302 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothybrockbank7474 Hagon progressive springs in the forks, Hagon fully adjustable rear shocks.
@normanbuild
@normanbuild Жыл бұрын
It's seems almost obligatory to have to upgrade suspension nowadays. I have a triumph speedmaster which was transformed but the same hagon treatment. Great guys to deal with as well
@kevinnielsen1356
@kevinnielsen1356 Жыл бұрын
This is a truly unique machine. First introduced in 1967 it has steadily and continuously improved and evolved. This is arguably the most refined motorcycle in the world. Made by hand in the same factory since its introduction. Almost entirely made in Italy.
@simonlangmead7
@simonlangmead7 7 ай бұрын
The twin came out in 1967.
@kevinnielsen1356
@kevinnielsen1356 7 ай бұрын
@@simonlangmead7 Ooops, only a ten year typo mistake. Thanks, I corrected my post.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 7 ай бұрын
I certainly wouldn’t call it refined!!
@kevinnielsen1356
@kevinnielsen1356 7 ай бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer Depends upon how one defines refined.
@duncanhine898
@duncanhine898 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review! Love my 750cc V7 III. One thing you didn’t mention is that these are still built in the original factory in Italy, so you’re buying into history and supporting European manufacturing and jobs.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes good point Duncan, thanks for watching!
@YangCalgary
@YangCalgary 2 жыл бұрын
As an owner I’d like to point out that this is not a retro bike. Moto Guzzi has been building the V7 with very little changes since 1976; the frame for example is still the same. It’s a classic.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough - “very old design” bike then!
@dave6467
@dave6467 2 жыл бұрын
Lino Tonti was a genius.
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 Жыл бұрын
Great thing about that,a ton of accessories ready to fit!
@renevanderkraats224
@renevanderkraats224 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 2019 VIII Racer (the 750cc engine, with the Ohlins rear shocks). Absolutely love it. Such nice details, I step into the storage just to look at it for a few minutes. Only 52hp (only Racer in name), so no rocket-type launches and top speed, but I don't care for that. It indeed feels light and flickable in corners, suspension is a bit soft, love the vibes and character of that twin rumble and the accompanying gear whine. Almost a sort of Italian Harley regarding the old and sturdy technology (still using push rods!). Only added bit is a nice Agostini exhaust to make her sing :) I'll never sell this one.
@michaelhoward142
@michaelhoward142 2 жыл бұрын
The V7 reminds me a bit of the BMW boxers before they went "high-tech". Just a simple air-cooled twin with shaft drive.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes a similar sort of deal for sure!
@garethtemple6242
@garethtemple6242 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you out on a Moto Guzzi. I've loved these bikes for years and like them even more now they come with the 850cc engine. I'd definitely go for the speciale Version, which looks so much better (and has the traditional twin dials). Difficult choice between the Guzzi and a T100 Bonneville, the Triumph is probably the better all round package, although the Guzzi might win with its exclusivity and convenience of shaft drive.
@garmit61
@garmit61 2 жыл бұрын
The Guzzi will still be going when the trumpet falls apart.
@jonathanevans1305
@jonathanevans1305 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 2016 V7 Stone II. I bought it because I wanted retro, and having ridden an Interceptor, and whilst arranging a ride on a Bonneville, saw one of these in the showroom. I rode it, and fell in love with it. The Guzzi wobble you mentioned is a bit of a marmite feature, but to me it’s part of the character. You must have found one of the few Guzzis that has a neutral installed, but my gearbox clicks quite precisely, not spongy at all. Neutral is there, but elusive. The stands are stiff despite everything I’ve done to mine and the clutch is heavier than comparable bikes, but I only find this an issue in heavy traffic. You might enjoy the looks of the older version more - it has twin analogue dials (but alas still no fuel gauge), and a standard headlamp, plus all the chrome of the special, albeit the power output is lower. But the low end torque is fantastic, and I don’t tear about like a hooligan anyway😉. For me, the bike is summed up by one of your quotes - it makes you feel special. And the exclusivity always makes it an instant tourist attraction when parked up. Bikes are intensely personal, so everyone has their own opinion, but I’m slightly disappointed you didn’t like the V7 more.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Jonathan, can’t love them all!
@hugodacosta
@hugodacosta 2 жыл бұрын
I had the V7II Stone, and now I have the V7 850. The clutch in this new model has nothing to do with the V7II. It is very, very smooth.
@bobwampler3387
@bobwampler3387 2 жыл бұрын
I have a soft spot for Moto Guzzi’s. The only one I’ve ridden was a Norge, which I quite enjoyed. It had the the ability to shed 200lbs when dropping it into a corner. The engine reminded me of a small block V-8 from the sixty’s. Great experience.
@petercody7649
@petercody7649 2 жыл бұрын
Bob, I have had a Guzzi Norge for 12 years (no issues), I absolutely love it. It's all the bike I need. Good for a fun ride out. I have thrown luggage at it and toured (what it's designed for). I have also had it over to the Isle of Man TT twice and opened it up over the mountain. There's a lot of bikes I like, but not at the expense of having to part with the Norge
@lauriebloggs8391
@lauriebloggs8391 2 жыл бұрын
@@petercody7649 Me too, for 11 years, until written off in crash for cash thingy. Couldn't agree more.................
@jurgentreue1200
@jurgentreue1200 Жыл бұрын
Small block V8 is an excellent description of a Moto Guzzi. I've owned a couple of Moto Guzzi Le Mans, a 1984 Mk III and a 1990 MkV. When describing the engine to a non motorcyclist, I'd tell them the engine is like sawing off two cylinders off a V8. The way Moto Guzzis, especially the Le Mans, develop their power is addictive. My Le Mans MkV would develop maximin torque at 6000rpm. That's 180kph in top gear, and it will still be pulling like a 16 year old. At 6000rpm, the bike could burst through brick walls. Cruising speed anywhere between 150kph and 180kph, if allowed. Not bad for a pretty agricultural 1000cc (948 actually) air cooled V twin with carburetors.
@richwatson28
@richwatson28 Жыл бұрын
I have this exact spec bike in this colour. It is, by far, the nicest bike I’ve ever had to own and ride. I like the matt black, it’s easier to look after and you’re not constantly worrying about scratching paintwork. For a new rider, it’s so incredibly forgiving with its low-down weight, smooth clutch and gearbox (mine is, anyway) and comfort on occasional longer trips. There is a way around the fuel gauge issue. There are two trip meters. Set one for your fuel capacity at the filling station, the other for your journey. And even when you get the dreaded amber light come on a THIRD trip automatically starts, telling you how many miles you’ve covered since. I think that’s as good as a fuel ‘gauge’. The huge 21 litre capacity helps on the anxiety front, too.
@barriegreenbury2498
@barriegreenbury2498 2 жыл бұрын
I have had Moto Guzzi bikes for 30 Years and love them. The best place to ride them is between 4000 - 5500 RPM they sing in that zone in 3, 4, 5th mine are all 5 speed nothing fancy here. The single Brembo brake on the V7 is fine especially with the wonderful engine braking available to you. I put on some free breathing exhaust system on my 2012 V7 and it sounds awesome. Agree about the instrument pod. Not a fan, the classic has the twin analogue much more suited to the style. My 2012 V7 stone has the twin clocks they changed to single a few years back to keep young people interested I think. Thanks for the review.
@ronboe6325
@ronboe6325 2 жыл бұрын
A proper motorcycle; especially in the Special trim (which I've seen in person - oh my!). The Special offers up two qualities I really like: better colour and two clocks. I agree with you, much better than the spec sheet would lead you to believe. I also like the ability to adjust the valves (had a Griso and a Quota, valve adjustment is very easy).
@flaviobrunelli2511
@flaviobrunelli2511 2 жыл бұрын
Good review, congratulation!👍 ..I’m seriously thinking to move from my actual Bmw F800R to the MG V7 stone. I’ve testet this motorbike 2 months ago and she gave me a very good impression: the beauty of the originality and essentiality. I’m Italian and I’m proud of Moto Guzzi, even if I’m discovering Moto Guzzi just at the age of 52… maybe the age of maturity 😉
@paulwray6093
@paulwray6093 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I have to confess I am a Guzzi fan and overall think it was a fair review as per. However mentioning 199 kg dry with shaft drive as a negative point when compared with the 236kg chain driven (wet ) Triumph Bonneville seems a little strange 🤔 Paul
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 Жыл бұрын
Petrol is 0.8kg/litre, Triumph only carries 12 litre,I'll let you work it out...Guzzi give dry weights due to huge tank!
@texanbill6032
@texanbill6032 2 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic review. I am a longtime Guzzi owner, having owned several in the past and currently owning a vintage LeMans. I recently purchased a new V7 (850) Special with the proper dual gauges . Forget the hp numbers, this bike is more fun to ride than some motorcycles with double the power output. I agree that the bike could use a fuel gauge, but it’s worth noting it has a large tank (I get over 200 miles before the low fuel light comes on). I have put a Dart fly screen on mine and intend on putting a cartridge kit in the front forks and a set of mufflers on it. Otherwise, the bike is perfect for what it is.
@pmstirling
@pmstirling 2 жыл бұрын
Another great review, TMF! I have a 2019 V7 Stone and love it. I really prefer the old style analog gauge on it over the new digital one, although I really miss a tachometer! I agree that the suspension, err, "leaves a lot to be desired" - easy (if pricey) to upgrade. As to your sidestand complaint, I had the same trouble, easily remedied with a squirt of grease. One more thing about the 2019 is my led headlight is way nicer than the new one! So despite much less power I like the previous model over the new V7.
@stevenwandels8934
@stevenwandels8934 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on review! I had a V7 before buying a V85 TT. And all the remarks you made: suspension, side stand (rusty prostetic leg effect) are true. The reason I switched is that the V85 TT is way more comortable for me (1m84) for long voyages. Take care over there in the UK! Greets from Belgium
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Steven and thanks for the feedback!
@ToolkiT73UK
@ToolkiT73UK 2 жыл бұрын
Agree 6ft/1.83m is about the tallest I would recommend on a V7, if you are taller get the V85TT
@tomaskral4685
@tomaskral4685 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolkiT73UK That's not true. I'm quite finicky when it comes to creature comforts. I'm 195 cm tall(6'4) and this bike feels perfect. It might look a bit small for me perhaps, but I never feel any pain coming home from a long trip. Very neutral sitting position, great seat. As for riding with a passenger - that's another story. Just not comfortable. I mean for the passenger..
@griso107
@griso107 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review of a cracking bike..You make some very valid points…picked one of these up last week and absolutely love it…I am a guzzi fan boy in fairness 😎
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your new bike!
@mariuspike
@mariuspike 2 жыл бұрын
What I see on this motorcycle is a worry free / no maintenance bike that you can ride all day long. The Bonneville i like more, but that chain and the tube in the wheels is just a hassle. Off course you can put a belt drive conversion and use some kind of sealant for in the rims to convert them in tubeless, but ... look at this Guzzi ! They managed all of that straight of the box. Bravo! Well done
@robertmassey807
@robertmassey807 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, opened my eyes to this bike enough to go and get a demo. Never had a bike with a fuel gauge and 200kgs for a shafty sounds fine!
@scoutrifle6827
@scoutrifle6827 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy how you're not afraid to give your personal, subjective opinions; too many reviews focus on data sheets, and seem hesitant to just say, "I like/don't like this/that about this bike."
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you think that - appreciated!
@xtc2v
@xtc2v 2 жыл бұрын
If Steve McQueen in the Great Escape can check the fuel by looking in the tank and shaking the bike its good enough for you!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
True!
@Rower30-ye6qn
@Rower30-ye6qn 3 ай бұрын
There is a gallon remining reserve light that illuminates on the dash. Tells you you have one gallon left. Not too hard. The tripmeter has a miles used on reserve count down, too. That's if you don' use the odometer to tell you to get gas at about 225 miles or so. Big to do about nothing.
@kretonslovechild7999
@kretonslovechild7999 Жыл бұрын
I've had my '22 Stone for nearly four months and have put 2600 miles on it. I absolutely love it and look for any opportunity to ride it. It's a wonderful counterpoint to my very fast and very smooth Concours which I also love. Most reviewers seem to prefer the Classic, and yes it is a great looking bike. But I chose the Stone over the Classic because it runs tubeless tires and it's matte finish makes it a breeze to wash. Mine is the "Arancione Rame" (orange) color which I liked best of all the V7 850s. And these bikes easily deliver 250+ miles on a tank of gas unless you have a really heavy throttle hand (which defeats the purpose of these bikes IMO). Only the Italians could make a 5.55 gallon tank look so svelte. One of my favorite things about these bikes and Guzzis in general is their rarity. In the short time I've had my Stone I've encountered hundreds of H-Ds but only one other Guzzi (a Stornello). It's really fun to ride something that's both modestly priced - and a great value IMO - yet more distinctive than bikes that cost 4 times as much.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Жыл бұрын
Nice one - there' something tobe said for having something a little unusual too isn't there....
@michaelcomerford5509
@michaelcomerford5509 Жыл бұрын
Great Bike I have 2012 v7 stone I also have a Triumph T120 I find the v7 easier to ride some times depends what mood I am in . Great review .
@TheTwinPost
@TheTwinPost 2 жыл бұрын
A pair of 'Mistral' pipes sound amazing on this machine. Thankyou for the video.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@stuartmoles843
@stuartmoles843 2 жыл бұрын
I have a V7 iii, really enjoy mine. Lucky to have a few bikes and my V7 is the only bike I look back at when walking away and think “what a great looking bike”.
@blamestormer9941
@blamestormer9941 2 жыл бұрын
Riding VMax 1200 and 1700, I love this bike, looks really good. Simple, maybe. But it has all a nice bike needs. Thumbs up
@kayakmalta2444
@kayakmalta2444 2 жыл бұрын
I own a V7 850 Special and covered 3000 miles. Owned quite a few mid capacity bikes before. The V7 puts a grin on my face like no other bike did before.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear!
@scottcalhoun5524
@scottcalhoun5524 Жыл бұрын
I just purchased a V7 Stone, and I like it more than my last bike (Triumph T120) has all the power I need, and handles great. I’m still getting used to the gearbox, takes a little more effort than my Triumph.
@IanTed
@IanTed 2 жыл бұрын
Got tired of waiting for the V100 Mandello so I bought a Multistrada V2S, love it but may be tempted next time. Guzzis have loads of character, look lovely and are well made. Tempted by a V7 as a second bike…
@DanTube2010
@DanTube2010 2 жыл бұрын
A single front brake disk should never become an issue on this type of bike. It is possible to have plenty of stopping power via one disk. Dual disks exist mostly to improve heat dispersion so as to reduce brake fade when a bike is being ridden fast and hard round bends.
@Rower30-ye6qn
@Rower30-ye6qn 3 ай бұрын
Correct. I have the V7 850 STONE 10, and with sintered EBC FA224HH (check that number!) brake pads I can lock the front wheel at will (actually anti-lock kicks-in). More discs down there won't change the stopping distance once that happens. The tire is the limit. You'll never overheat a big single disc on the street doing anything near normal. Dual discs CAN apply more of the total available braking powere with less lever pressure, though (on my V100S). They can't change the front tire's grip.
@chriscm6461
@chriscm6461 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, you've done a review on the V7! I've liked these bikes for a while. I wanted one as a second bike (main one is a big old GS). Wife wouldn't let me buy a new one.....so I got an old Breva 750. Turns out, it's pretty much the same and only cost 3 grand! It's a hoot to ride, has a clunky gearbox and the rocky roll vibe and a really comfy seat....can go a decent distance in comfort. So, if your viewers fancy a wee delve into Guzzi, then an old Breva might be worth a look😁😁
@chrisr6894
@chrisr6894 2 жыл бұрын
I love that seat shape, not sure how to describe it but it fits the lines of the bike really well.
@JamiePryke
@JamiePryke 2 жыл бұрын
Whilst waiting on my problematic KTM to be fixed under warranty (a whole story on it's own) I tried a Tracer 9gt, F900xr, Tigersport 660 and, on a whim, the V85tt just for a shot. Turned out that after the other three and despite what I thought might happen, I bought the Guzzi. It just did something the other bikes didn't and crossed that retro modern threshold just right. It feels like you're starting a rotary plane engine every time you start her up and the way she surfs through corners is both quick and relaxing. I've had it for a couple of months and already done a Europe tour on the thing (even got the cliched photo outside the Guzzi factory gates). She looks great wherever I put her and makes me feel great when i'm out on a ride, which means a lot to me I've found out. Moto Guzzis seem like the natural enemy of spec sheets; the numbers don't add up, yet you might end up buying one anyway. At least that's my experience. At the very least more people need to at least try one to find out, I was pleasantly surprised.
@Zakori
@Zakori 2 жыл бұрын
My Ktm is also currently in warranty 7 weeks now I’ll most likely be getting a brand new one in the next week as they just don’t understand what’s wrong with it Don’t buy Ktm
@senaman
@senaman 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Another fantastic review. Like many here I´m also a Guzzi fanboy. Owned a Guzzi Griso 8v that I had to sell. It was the most beautiful bike I ever had and I do not now many prettier thatn that (specially the Griso 8v SE navy green on a black frame). I rode a few guzzis over the years - the Norge, Sport 1200, V85 tt, the previous V7 (with a smaller engine) and earlier this year I got to ride this bike. It is a beautiful machine and while it's true that you have to live with those vibrations they are something that I welcome personally. Regarding the styling of the bike, I don't like the headlight and the dial on this one. I sat on the special in blue and it is glorious. Twin dials like a retro bike must have and a simple headlight, plus the chromes, spoke wheels and it all comes together as a very good machine. Regarding the suspension I understand that it isn't the gratest but it leaves room to personalize the bike, just like your R Enfield. Looking forward to watch yout next video. Cheers
@soshsiB
@soshsiB 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, nice review 😎! Since Nov’20 I own a Guzzi V7 III, so the previous model. I have to say, it is very special and it always makes me a big smile at my face. The naked Guzzi got something very particular and it is hard to explain. Maybe I just love the way and the character of it. I am nowadays got 25t km and I start to think about a petrol station when I reach 450km (petrol warning light starts flashing at about 350km). However, one I run it empty (in purpose and out of curiosity) and the machine runs empty at 520km !!!! That is quite cool I think. I assume the actual V7 got similar fuel consumption. Therefore a fuel gauge is not really necessary for this bike 🏍. Cheers and … try to ride the Speciale!! Hehehehe
@simovtransportmedia1137
@simovtransportmedia1137 Жыл бұрын
I love how the italian brands think of budget, not so powerfull and a little bit of an old school bikes. When you are chosing your bike you are choosing part of your reflection as a character so I really like the concept behind V7. There have to be a bike for everyone.
@ragerider6283
@ragerider6283 2 жыл бұрын
Nice fair review TMF. Not a perfect bike for sure but I must confess that I love a Moto Guzzi & the V7's no exception. I'm seriously considering it. Allthough I agree mirrors aren't great, no fuel gauge is annoying & the display could be better. However none are deal breakers for me personally. The twin duals on the special look great so maybe a dial / LCD combo would've been better on this? Either way, Guzzi have also released a new special edition V7 as of yesterday which looks very nice with an Arrow exhaust, bar end mirrors, & fancy paint job. On the subject of Guzzi's, you'll also have to see if you can borrow a new V100 to review as that looks very interesting.
@jezza1421
@jezza1421 2 жыл бұрын
At 200Kg, I wouldn't consider it heavy for a shaft drive 850, it's around the same weight as the Interceptor and slightly lighter than the Bonneville
@Rower30-ye6qn
@Rower30-ye6qn 3 ай бұрын
Ride the V7. It feels WAY, WAY lighter than the specs. My V100S isn't that much heavieer on a spec sheet, but it feels a TON heavier riding it. I own the V7 and the V100S both, so I know.
@robertparisi8016
@robertparisi8016 11 ай бұрын
Started purchasing these bikes when it was a 750, I been through 5 of them, they are a great backroad bike, the 850 has noticeable more power, my problem with them is they just don't have enough power for me, went back to a 1200 Bonneville, I like and need power and torque, don't like the bobber but I love the new mandello!!!
@Rower30-ye6qn
@Rower30-ye6qn 3 ай бұрын
I own the new 2023 V100S Mandello and ther 2024 V7 850 STONE model 10. Guess which one is more fun to ride? They are not the same animal at all. The V100S is a hyper beast made to spin to red-line in every gear or it isn't happy at all. Not a pleasant bike until you crank it. It rides YOU, and YOU ride the V7. So differtent. Sure, you can lug the V100S but it doesn't like it. Ride them both you'll see.
@williammuir638
@williammuir638 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, sensible practical, economical, reliable bike. Looks great blacked out.
@garydavis5616
@garydavis5616 2 жыл бұрын
Good job. I’ve got a 2020 viii Racer. I replaced the stock exhaust so I could hear a little rumble which also blocks out the whining of the engine!! You were spot on with your thoughts on the MG. I love this bike for all the reasons you said. I like the Triumph line but here in the States they are 4 grand more so a little too much for me. Thanks again!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, thanks for watching!
@flyingfish173
@flyingfish173 2 жыл бұрын
I own a 2018 V7 111 Milano with10k on it now. It gives me more smiles per mile than any bike I've owned. 70 mpg average to boot. Twin clocks and brushed aluminum fenders. Basic, simple and Agostini pipes makes New England roads a wonderful world to be in. Good nonsense review.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
It wasnt meant to be nonsense!! …but I think I get what you mean!
@chrisgraham9203
@chrisgraham9203 5 ай бұрын
Very good review. As I approach my 7th decade on this planet, the current iteration of the V7 appeals to me in a way I haven't felt since I bought my first new bike, a '78 Yamaha XS750. And as I recall, it was a quite characterful and quirky ride too. I would go with the Special though, with the chrome bits, dual gauges, spoke wheels and gloss paint.
@DaveDayve
@DaveDayve 2 жыл бұрын
Your pronunciation was spot on.. PERFECT 💪🏆. Great video. I love those bikes
@ColSnders
@ColSnders Жыл бұрын
Thanks TMF for the straight-up review. I've been agonising between the V70 and Triumph T120 for too long. Having read all the great comments, and for a combined price equivalent to the T120, I finally decided on the charactertul Guzzi - PLUS a Royal Enfield 350 Classic for when the V70 is in the shop!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Жыл бұрын
Good solution! Enjoy....
@BigMoeFo
@BigMoeFo 2 жыл бұрын
HAHA the gearbox that's a Guzzi. Dry Clutch...clunk clunk clunk. Absolutely love my V9 Bobber. These bikes have been handmade in the same factory for 100 years.
@pauls8456
@pauls8456 2 жыл бұрын
Yes better than an RE Intercepter, and a Thailand built Triumph (which the cheaper models are) and one of the rare air cooled bikes you can still buy. Shaft drive and easily serviced. It reminds you of an air cooled BMW. I love my V7 (the 30th or so bike I have owned in over 40years of riding).
@peterprior1
@peterprior1 Жыл бұрын
Great to see you review the V7. Have to say that of all the bikes I've owned over my 15 years of riding, my Thruxton R and Tiger 800 were the least reliable, had the most recalls and niggles of them all. The Thruxton also showed signs of corrosion after just three months of dry summer riding. I've owned Harleys, a Guzzi 1200 Sport 4v, and now have a RE Classic 500. The V7 Special might be a future purchase. I fancied a Bonnie but part experience of Triumph and the mad prices have put me off. Hoping you get the test the V100 Mandello soon.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Жыл бұрын
I have put a word in too - I like the look of that!
@BikerTorque
@BikerTorque 2 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to ride a V7 special for a couple of weeks just recently and loved every minute of it. If I owned one I’d definitely put on a set of agostini pixies, they sound amazing. Also prefer the spoked rims on the Special over the alloys on the stone. All up a thoroughly enjoyable bike.
@ToolkiT73UK
@ToolkiT73UK 2 жыл бұрын
Fully agree, my 2018 V7 rough has the spoked wheels and they suit the bike better IMHO. Upgraded the pipes to the Agustin's which sound better and are a lot smaller/lighter too :)
@johnwiffen6655
@johnwiffen6655 2 жыл бұрын
101 years of history. There have been a lot of good bikes over the years
@jameshutchins3396
@jameshutchins3396 2 жыл бұрын
If I could afford more than one bike at a time, I would absolutely have a guzzi. Their handling always suprises me in a good way. There is just nothing else like them and as time goes on, I am more attracted to the simplicity of them even more. Just a little underpowered for my taste as a primary bike.
@scottcalhoun5524
@scottcalhoun5524 Жыл бұрын
How much more power do you really need?
@Rower30-ye6qn
@Rower30-ye6qn 3 ай бұрын
I own a V100S and the 2024 V7, both. The V7 is not underpowered. You're missing out on a bike you can get the most out of and it is fun. The V7 will show my V100S it's tail pipes the tighter the road.
@therealunclevanya
@therealunclevanya 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted a V7 850 so test rode one and because the dealer had one, a V85 as well. I bought the V85. It was a great bike, but, the V85 was roomier and smoother. The engine and gearbox will get better over time.
@splodge57
@splodge57 2 жыл бұрын
Great bike, always had a soft spot for Guzzi's. If the Special had cast wheels and tubeless tyres I'd be interested.
@xtc2v
@xtc2v 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, tubeless is a must for me too
@JamiePryke
@JamiePryke 2 жыл бұрын
The v85tt got updated to spoked tubeless rims in 2021, so I'd assume the special will be in line for that upgrade at some point.
@SPSteve
@SPSteve 2 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking of putting cast wheels on my V7 Special. I would get a set of Stone wheels and paint them silver.
@rabbidbabies4094
@rabbidbabies4094 2 жыл бұрын
When I was on the search for a new bike, my heart was really set on a Guzzi. They’re so damn beautiful, and all I hear about is how unique they are to ride. In my opinion, I think they’re at the top when it comes to how beautiful a bike is. However, the two dealers near me refuse to offer test rides. I ended up getting a t120 which I’m really happy with. I hope to try a Guzzi someday and have one next to my Triumph.
@PhilipBallGarry
@PhilipBallGarry 2 жыл бұрын
And you really need a test ride. The one we tried before signing for the T100 had all sorts of issues. Lying neutral indicator, misfire at low throttle and meaningless random info on the display. The dealer was very good and promised to sort out the issues. True to his word, he rang the next day to say they'd replaced both HT leads which had cured the running issue (apparently, internal arcing was causing all the electronic gremlins) and he offered us another go. Sadly, we'd already decided to buy the T100 so they lost our sale. But there was a lot to like about the Guzzi, especially the character of that motor.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy not allowing test rides, and dealers wonder why they can’t shift bikes!
@standupmoto
@standupmoto 2 жыл бұрын
Nice look Andy, thanks. I’ve spent some time on a 20 model, great little city or B road machine but stay off the motorways, the vibes will drive you nuts. 👍
@RRRRefuelRideRace
@RRRRefuelRideRace 2 жыл бұрын
Detailed review. Rode the Special version and the bike felt well made. Agree about the gearbox, the fuel gauge and the side stand... can check my work. p.s. You got my like here. Just keep up.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@punkrockdidi
@punkrockdidi 2 жыл бұрын
Looking in to owning a Guzzi again for a couple of weeks now... All the reasons I sold my v7 stone || for are improved on the new 850 version.For the money it's one good looking motorcycle on paper and in the flesh!
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@nigelsutton8957
@nigelsutton8957 Жыл бұрын
Just bought a Stone special edition, has an Arrow exhaust system which has a deeper tone and gives another 1.5 bhp, bar end mirrors and gloss paint on tank and side panels. Nice simple air cooled bike. Still own 2 Hinckley Triumphs but fancied a change and like the shaft drive.
@Victor-vf1fi
@Victor-vf1fi Жыл бұрын
Beautiful bike. Any issues with it? Appreciate its almost brand new...
@nigelsutton8957
@nigelsutton8957 Жыл бұрын
@@Victor-vf1fi none so far, I love it. Set out to by a V7 special, but this was next to it in the shop. The wife likes it too!
@Victor-vf1fi
@Victor-vf1fi Жыл бұрын
@@nigelsutton8957 Safe travels dude. How is it with a pillion?
@nigelsutton8957
@nigelsutton8957 Жыл бұрын
@@Victor-vf1fiThanks, the Mrs will be happier when the rack and top box are fitted.
@Victor-vf1fi
@Victor-vf1fi Жыл бұрын
@@nigelsutton8957 it does seem a bit snug... Curious to try it once I buy it. But I'm a bit of a beginner so pillion seems risky at this point.
@chrisbarnes9260
@chrisbarnes9260 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review Andy. You mentioned that you didn’t like the torque reaction due to the shaft drive. Don’t you get a similar rock and roll on your BMW GS ?
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
No - with the liquid cooled model (post 2013) that’s way less noticeable - I hate it on the older bikes and the RnineT too!
@PhilipBallGarry
@PhilipBallGarry 2 жыл бұрын
The flashing "moustache" is a rev limit warning. It's set rather low until the first service, then the dealer will update the ecu 👍
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Oh right - makes sense….
@Rower30-ye6qn
@Rower30-ye6qn 3 ай бұрын
No, there is no ECU flash after break-in. They just go in and set the "LOW" and "HIGH" rev limits. I set mine to 6800 RPM and 8000 RPM. You CAN go over 4500 RPM with break-in, just don't. You can't go over red-line max as then there is an electronic cut-off.
@dennisgreene7164
@dennisgreene7164 Жыл бұрын
The rock and roll from a Guzzi prop is a thing of beauty :-)
@edxr250r
@edxr250r 2 жыл бұрын
Another interesting review TMF - I have to say that I agree with you 100% with respect to the Special edition in blue. In my opinion the blue with chrome details and silver rims really suit the bike and let you see the styling details, whereas the all black model reminds me of prototype bikes where they're trying to disguise the detailing prior to launch. I rode a Guzzi 1200 Sport from Denver CO to the west coast back in 2016 and have to say I really enjoyed the bike and ride so can see that this bike (albeit in blue) could offer a similar experience. I'd love to see you ride/review a Triumph Scrambler 900 as I love the look of that bike and it must be in the same class I suppose (retro styled, mid sized, ~64bhp roadster)🤔. Keep up the good work, I know that you recently said you were going to do fewer bike reviews but please don't stop altogether as I do look forward to watching them😉👍👍
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry I won’t!
@Scout7336
@Scout7336 2 жыл бұрын
Triumph, Triumph, Triumph. You figure a way to work them into every video. :-) It is a nice looking bike. I do like a drive-shaft. Currently have a Honda ST1100, drive-shaft no worries. I don't know why Moto Guzzi's are not more popular.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Bob, always good to hear from you!
@danieldayton3064
@danieldayton3064 2 жыл бұрын
My curiosity finally got the better of me, and I managed to pause the video sufficiently to read your disclaimer. Nice to know that I have "impressive pausing skills." 😉 Cheers, Andy!
@jeremyrigden9200
@jeremyrigden9200 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great review, used to ride an MG Centauro, the pre-Griso, remapped by Raceco , bike was brilliant, pulled like a train, happy days. Being an Amersham lad enjoy your reviews so much more knowing your roads. Thanks
@Dave-sw2dm
@Dave-sw2dm 2 жыл бұрын
I came across my first Moto Guzzi back in 2013 while searching the used classifieds. I was a 2010 V7 Cafe classic 750 in Legano Green. I traded it for a 2018 V7III Carbon Dark which is now heavily modified/customized. This summer I added a V85TT Guardia D'onore. Love them.
@michaelwatts224
@michaelwatts224 2 жыл бұрын
It's certainly a good looker; the tank looks perfectly positioned over that pretty engine. I'm looking to upgrade my Int650, and it's between this and the street twin I think.
@kemer1977
@kemer1977 2 жыл бұрын
We had one of these for the wife, a V7III Stone 750CC version in the same flat black color scheme. Within 4k miles we had the check engine light come on 4 times, and the final drive seal failed twice. Coating the rear wheel and tire in final drive oil. On top of that, neutral was impossible to find. As much as we liked the bike, we had to cut it loose and traded it on a Kawasaki Z900RS Cafe. To be fair, I'm sure we just got unlucky with our specific example, I'm sure as a whole the Marque and models are quite durable. We just had bad luck with ours. I was really strongly contemplating getting a V85TT for myself. But due to the reliability issues with the wife's V7, I went with a Yamaha FJR1300ES for myself. Great review. Keep them coming.
@dave6467
@dave6467 2 жыл бұрын
Neutral is impossible to find on my 1980 LeMans Mk2, but I pay that price for history, character, soul, charm, beauty,...........
@kemer1977
@kemer1977 2 жыл бұрын
@@dave6467 it frustrated my wife to no end. It became a game for the group of our friends we ride with. Who can find neutral on the Guzzi. One friend had a Ducati Scrambler Cafe Racer, which is also notorious for having a hard to find neutral. Even he had no luck. After 15 minutes, he gave up. Watching him get increasingly frustrated was quite entertaining.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear of your wife’s troubles - it’s amazing how something like difficulty finding neutral can totally change your view of a bike!
@kemer1977
@kemer1977 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer honestly the neutral thing was just an annoyance. The mechanical issues were what really made us give the bike up for the Z900RS.
@dave6467
@dave6467 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMissendenFlyer I expect it on my old Guzzi, Andy, but I guess that new models shouldn't suffer the same.
@reneroozendaal5493
@reneroozendaal5493 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! As a moto guzzi fan and owner ( I own a V7 850 special in grey) I can say you have to ride in a guzzi for 10.000 km for it to teally "losen up". After a while the gearbox the engineering snd suspension really "smooth out" and you end up with great bike to ride! Had to just tell you! Ciao ciao greetings from the Netherlands
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings!
@jefflambert8603
@jefflambert8603 2 жыл бұрын
Never owned a Guzzi. But have Happy Memories of a Holiday at Lake Como & a Trip round the Moto Guzzi Factory Museum at Mandello
@peterbell5556
@peterbell5556 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review 👍. I like the look of the bike. Really liked the special you flashed briefly on the screen. But even so. I prefer my interceptor. I agree with you regarding fuel gauge. It would be a deal breaker for me. I already suffer from fuel anxiety on trips.
@bruceferguson6637
@bruceferguson6637 2 жыл бұрын
I like this bike. Not scortchingly fast but pleasant, nonetheless. Shaft drive and valve adjustment without pulling off the tank are a plus.
@dave6467
@dave6467 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one Andy. As a Guzzi fan (and the owner of a 1980 850 LeMans 2) this video resonated with me. Great to see this fantastic marque represented in your road test content.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Dave!
@frankhall401
@frankhall401 2 жыл бұрын
When I rode the previous version I had the feeling that unlike Triumph and RE, this wasn't a modern bike made to look old but an old bike made to pass modern regulations.
@mikestewart7322
@mikestewart7322 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review TMF, that’s a nice bike. I’ve just bought Stone 111 Le Man replica 2019 model, so 744cc 52 hp and have to say it flys and absolutely love the vibes, rocking, noise etc. I tried that exact model before buying as I hadn’t ridden a moto guzzi before and it’s a lovely bike. Ps I’m loving your Segura jacket and gloves looks really cool. Cheers👍🏻🇮🇹
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike, got to look right on the bike!
@Guysorce1
@Guysorce1 2 жыл бұрын
TMF i think you've summed these bikes up perfectly. I have a V7III 750, so the model before this in the Stone spec. This is my first 'BIG' bike and i've it owned for 3 years now. Being of Italian heritage and knowing the Moto Guzzi brand I couldn't bring myself to buy a Trimuph Bonne, even though i knew that was better bike. What the Guzzi does for me is give me the look I wanted and the cafe racer style, which mine now sports. The suspension isn't the best and the gearbox/neutral is something of a character thing....you get used to and to be fair i'm a fair weather rider so it doesn't bother me much. I get bags of compliments when ever i park up and people always ask what it is when filling up with fuel....excatly what i wanted. Now do I trade up to the 850 or stay with my current model? Thanks all the same.
@josephmccarthy4527
@josephmccarthy4527 6 ай бұрын
Based on the the sound, this bike has gear timing. The gear replaces the timing chain and give the engine that strange harmonic. I had my 1982 Guzzi timing changed to the gear system and am glad to see that this mod made it into production. I put about 70,000 on the clock over 5 years and sold the bike for more then I paid.
@Rower30-ye6qn
@Rower30-ye6qn 3 ай бұрын
We have a lot of real off base comments on all bikes, not just this one. I've been at this since 1972. I know "retro" and rode it for decades. A 1979 CB750F four valver and a 1992 BMW R100RT ( I won't mention the RD400 and several more). I know modern retro, I have the V7. I also know leading edge modern as I have the V100S. First, the old Honda CB750F, a super bike in the day, and BMW were both covered in plastic and no, the dual dash on the Honda was ALL plastic as was the entire tail light assembly and about anything but the engine and frame. The V7 is less plasticy than the 1979 CB750F. The BMW was probably the least plasticy but it was an odd ball bike with sand cast engine and no paint finish. Most all engines are painted, and not a natural finish. The CB750F "natural" silver engine's paint mostly all fell off leaving a dull corroded aluminum that was the real finish, dropping white corrosion powerd in a heap under the bike all winter in the garage. On reliability sorry, but the CB750F was a disaster. Alternator caught on fire three times. The 35mm little forks bent so bad they stuck in the stanction tubes four time and had to be replaced. The brakes overheated at a moments notice and boiled the fluid out of the handle reservoir and destroyed the tanks finish (it was an attractive bike). The swing arm platic inserts they called bearings crack and the bike gets a nice BIG weave in turns. The solution was a box of plastic bearings and was told to chage them every oil change. The instrument dials both broke off their gimbels and fell to the bottom of the gauges from the intense high frequency vibration this "smooth" four had. The engine gulped oil after 20K miles, all those 16 valve guides...some are bad which ones? The fix cost more than the bike. Oh yes, you young kids need the old days for sure! The BMW had the entire charging system, the igniton system, and the timing system all replace. It had a stainless steel valve job and twin plug mod so it runs on "new" gasoline. After all that it was pretty good, but hardly bullet proof "like in the old days". No, it was made to be good with MODERN stuff. Now it is a great retro bike but technically most of it is "modern" underneath. The CB750F had all of 67 HP in the day and it was a super bike. Yes, it was top dog FAST. Or was it? Yes, it definitiely fast and the V7 is also QUICKER than the old super bike Honda. How we forget. The V7 TEN's 66 HP is plenty to get you in trouble, and since the V7 handles BETTER than my old Honda you'll be going faster on a goof-up. People don't evolve in a few decades to manage 200 HP superbikes. Just because bikes have 200 HP does not mean a 100 HP V100S is now a beginners bike, or someday a 500 HP bike means a 250 HP bike is now a beginners bike. We don't work that way. Near 70 HP is a lot of power. To be honest, the V7 is a better bike for how I ride most of the time. It is far more confident in it's weight, handling and power. The bike talks to you. The V100S yells at you. The V100S is a hyper beast that pulls at you all the time. It wants to be ridden HARD and it lets you know that. That's fun, but the V7 is a far more ZEN like ride and involves the trip so much more than the V100S that just races to each end, making the trip itself vanish. The V7 is WHY ride motorcycles, to enjoy the trip more than the destination. The V100S seems immune to the trip as much as it an be where the V7 is designed to be the trip, the opposite. I own both and trust me, neither bike will trick you into thinking you need just the one...so I bough them both. The V7 is MODERN underneath like I eventually made the old BMW. The V7's all have the LOOK of a retro but they all handle and run far, far better than the 1979 "super bike" CB750F. I rode that thing 56,000 hard miles and it was not a dream made in heaven. I kind of winch when I hear talk about dual gauges being "better" than the easier to read and even more compact modern digital versions. MG gives you a choice of them, so make it. That the far, far beter suspension on the V7 isn't a long shot better than the old Honda super bikes. we are spoiled and the past is too fuzzy with all the glamor clamoped on to it. It was no a great time compared to today. t was a good time as tech and csts allow, but it was far from better. We old farts all managed it and enjoyed ourselves but I'm more happy today witht he V7 and the V100S than anything I ever had before them. I do not yearn to get any of those old bikes back except the modernized BMW R100RT was probably a keeper. The fixed-up BMW was a retro lie made to influence you into thinking that the past was better than it was. So is the V7, don't fall for it! My V7's license plate is MGJ67 for Moto Guzzi January 1967, the first year they were offered as a V7. It is a retro plate for sure, but the bike really isn't.
@sambam007
@sambam007 2 жыл бұрын
Had the Milano and loved it, not fast and it’s pretty heavy but that sound 👌suspension bit harsh shocks upgrade would be good
@grayman999
@grayman999 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of my early stuff had no fuel gauge Andy ( riding bikes since 1978) just whip the fuel cap off and rock the bike 🤭 I like the look of the bike always fancied a Guzzi nice review mate very fair 👍👍👍
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 Жыл бұрын
Czech company, electronic experts,LSK make fuel gauges that go by the weight of the petrol, far more accurate than a float!
@rickyricardo9918
@rickyricardo9918 Жыл бұрын
The rear shocks preload come set for a heavier rider from the factory. Dial the spring back one notch. If you don't set rider sag before testing any bike you shouldn't comment on the suspension. It's like leaving the kickstand down & complaining the bike doesn't corner well.
@TheMissendenFlyer
@TheMissendenFlyer Жыл бұрын
Fair point!
@Grahamvfr
@Grahamvfr 2 жыл бұрын
Good honest review. I've always thought these quite interesting.. But a basic /retro with nothing to polish,,,, erm🤔
@Dan-56
@Dan-56 2 жыл бұрын
Owned a number of Moto-Guzzi’s in the 1980’s, (My wife and I both rode them.), enjoyed them except for the lack of dealer network here in the US, and parts availability was terrible. Unfortunately now days both of those problems are even worse 🙁.
@MichaelBLevi
@MichaelBLevi 2 жыл бұрын
I love those wheels. The bike is lovely but I ride on California freeways and I need a bit more power than the newer MG bikes offer. What would be nice is something like the old Griso. A lightweight powerful Moto Guzzi would be wonderful.
@chrisnorthrop5442
@chrisnorthrop5442 2 жыл бұрын
Good review, I’m thinking about one. Back in the day, a transverse mounted engine meant that the crankshaft ran across the bike, making this engine mounted ‘in line’. Keep up the good work.
@farmer_donny
@farmer_donny Жыл бұрын
I agree, in line is in line with the frame, transverse is across the frame.
@Rower30-ye6qn
@Rower30-ye6qn 3 ай бұрын
Guzzi specifically states that the CYLINDRES are "across". Has since the beginning.
@cw7422
@cw7422 8 ай бұрын
I loved my blue 2017 V7 iii special. Every time I stopped some place everyone wanted to know what it was and thought she was beautiful.
@TheHonarable1
@TheHonarable1 2 жыл бұрын
The gearbox smooths out nicely after a few hundred miles but I do happen to love the agricultural feel of it.
@Jagshemasher
@Jagshemasher 2 жыл бұрын
My fantasy motorcycle stable would certainly include a Triumphs (T100, T120 & Speed Twin) , Moto Guzzi V7 Special and a Kawasaski Z900RS (SE)
@UncleWally3
@UncleWally3 2 жыл бұрын
I came close to buying a Guzzi but I applied a simple test: Ask the parts person for a part (IE a “body” part, an electrical component, and a replacement accessory). I was either informed the part wasn’t available or there’d be a three month wait. I won’t claim this represents everyone’s situation, surly if you live in Mandello Del Lario the situation may be different? Anyway, cautionary tale . . .
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