THEMOVE: 2023 Tour de France Stage 6

[@jeyel4722]

Having Johan on here is a saviour, truly somebody worth listening to

[@fallrookmike]

I think Lance and in Kappi know what they’re talking about also 🙄

[@jeyel4722]

@@fallrookmike Kappi yeah, Lance, I dont know, he makes a lot of noise, but he doesnt really say anything

[@ismaelamaro7728]

Just watch JB squared.

[@jeyel4722]

@@ismaelamaro7728 I do

[@marcushanemann2510]

Just 2 words, GAME ON!

[@shazzthedon]

That’s 5 words homeboy

[@quintonsimpson9560]

Absolutely agree with Lance. While watching the last few KMS, told my friends that’s Jonas is Tadey’s personal domestic

[@pugglesprindle2698]

Wout was

[@simoping]

Man I love this podcast... especially good today guys thankyou

[@bandoaleciance]

Best part of the race was when Pogacar, in the last climb, kept looking behind him for the next rider because he was already feeling that Vingegaard was not pulling that fast.

[@scninja07]

Yep, Pog was looking to see if there was going to be any support for Jonas if he bonked. lol

[@moytheboy22]

Pogacar ain’t shit

[@blazzavec1100]

Pogi wanted to attack 4km to go but was advised from car to wait that's why he was looking back.

[@duncanh3466]

Lance is right today, madness to tow Pog

[@mcafton]

What else do you do though? I just turned it on so I didn't hear yet what they would say about it.

[@cartermoth6447]

@@mcafton You sit on Pogacar's wheel & let him do the attacking, then counter. Pog was a minute down in GC yesterday morning. The situation was perfect for Jumbo but they got greedy and wanted to win the jackpot early.

[@cgtnetwork]

Nuts

[@krisbowditch827]

💯 agree school boy tactics

[@Wolf_DeNoire]

Lance is a tactician as well as an athlete. Not all athletes are tacticians. Some are just thoroughbreds. I get the feeling Jonas is a thoroughbred and not a tactician. Pogo has more tactical awareness it seems.

[@wills.7626]

I’m with Johan. JV had a plan, it didn’t work, they didn’t panic, adapted, and Jonas is still in a good position. Todays finish really wasn’t steep enough for Jonas’ style. There’s plenty of steep finishes like stage 9 for things to change. Regardless, very exciting.

[@michaelkohn883]

Splain 😮to me how its a good plan - given Joans sits on TP and is thus able to react to his attack = he looses NO TIME vs. pulling TP and allowing for the possibility of loosing time (which he did). Might have been a plan - but its a bad plan.

[@vincec3590]

Actually Johan said that Jonas didn't panic when Pogacar took off and limited his time loss today. But he did say that when it was obvious that Pogacar was on better form today that Jumbo should have changed the plan and Jonas should have stopped pulling Pogacar

[@djvincekline7338]

Plus, everytime there was somebody with Jonas. Kelderman himself already got rid of all the (remaining) helpers of Pogacar. Now, they may have Majka, Soler and Yates, but they were nowhere to be found. Jonas had Kelderman, Kuss and van Aert in front. In other words, if Pogacar would have had the slightest bit of bad luck, he would have lost minutes. TJV gambled and lost this one, but at least they tried. So many people who say that TJV is riding defensively, well, they better shut their mouths forever.....

[@Montoya4ever1960]

In Johan Bruyneel time they wouldn't even get the yellow yersey in the first week now he thinks they could have knocked Pogachar down for good in the 6th stage .. come on 🤌

[@keithstewart936]

Tadej needed the confidence he got today. He now sees it can be done. So it will be done again. This is going to be a fun one. Buckle up!

[@waynepatton718]

Love listening to the move during the TDF. Johan talks so much sense keep up the great work guys 👏👏👏

[@ellenw.lovesyou1740]

Excellent episode guys. Armstrong is emotional! Love it.

[@FRANTALA10]

Love to see Johan back in here!

[@mikeoc217]

Yesterday ya didnt see Tadej stand up once most likely due to the weist. Today those few times but hes getting his 🏔️ legs back after that down time. Hes racing a entire team and holding his own. This is going to be an epic tour! 👍🏻🚴

[@seanmckellip4415]

Asked yesterday for Johan to be back part of it. And today it happens. It was the best podcast of the tour so far. The group just clicks right together and it all flows when the 4 are together. Thanks

[@MarcaoPT]

Lance and Jan's friendship is really one of a kind. I wonder if something will come out of Hollywood based on such a deep connection between these two icons.

[@Gsp_in_NYC]

to help save someone like that is gold. will never say a bad word about lance for what he did to someone suffering from addiction. love

[@KalashniYuri]

Would basically be a sequel to Brokeback Mountain. Rumor has it that it will be called “Nutsack Ridge”

[@kealapeters263]

Many years ago sitting in the waiting room with my step-father Robert , Dr Shipiro gave him 2 months. First thing Robert said to Doc. was thanks for what you did for Lance. He died 6 weeks later. I told his story, won a Madone. Lance was my step fathers hero, thanks Lance. The worn out frame is hanging on my garage wall. aloha

[@emmasloan1489]

its so funny how Lance was complaining a few years ago how the tour was so boring because Sky was racing in such a controlled and safe way , and now that Jumbo is being way more aggressive and animated he doesn't like that either. I have to say this style is far more interesting and cool ... like George says , as a fan this is the best. they are going at each other each day and it makes for an exciting race and also brings other riders into the equation which can't be a bad thing

[@madscatt1063]

Watched all the 1999-2005 TDF videos, Lance was amazing! Great to find this channel!

[@Khurw]

"fatigue finally catching up to the formerly high-flying Mattias Skjelmos" FYI. Skjelmose crashed yesterday which he said after the stage today the crash severely affected him, his entire back and one side is hit. He mentioned he just arent able to produce close to his normal watts, because of it.

[@moytheboy22]

3:30 is when the podcast starts

[@rmb_dev]

Finally, the main man Johan got a better video camera!

[@cospinan]

Lance is thinking like if he is the contender... being in the skin of Vingegaard... and he can't believe the mistake made by Vingegaard and Jumbo. This is feeling and breathing Cycling

[@topsykret.]

A very fun, entertaining and informative show you guys doing! I enjoyed it alot! Thank you for doing this, the perfect recap after a stage 💪🏽 Love from Switzerland

[@climacus7118]

Lance´s frustrations over Vingegaard´s selfdestructing pull are shared by everybody in their right mind. Total waste of energy by Jonas.

[@Spartan_-du9wi]

Love that Lance could not tell you a race he won off hand. But HE KNOWS VAM!!!!! Awesome, he is an undercover numbers/watts geek. JV tried to put Pogo's lights out today. Pogi said no way! Allez Le Tour

[@texpunk6435]

You guys make the anyaway sunny summer shine even morè thanks

[@adamfeerst2575]

Sepp was monitoring Jai and the Yates for a while. Then, maybe he was helping Powless. Also, not falling too far back in case Jonas needed him.

[@johnc5188]

it looked like Wout dropped his chain when he pulled off the train, you can see his legs moving but no motion in the bike. He probaly dumped the gears and lost the chain for a little bit. He is an insane rider, absolute power house

[@estebanaraiza]

when Pogi attacks it remember me when LANCE was attacking 🙌👊💥

[@pcontiman]

Love when Johan joins

[@ellenw.lovesyou1740]

I love the Tour so far. Finally the first week burning!

[@trust5977]

Great discussion, fellas.

[@Bong17]

No disrespect to Lance but this is one of the best rivalry I’ve seen in my 23 years of watching TDF, very close match, trading blows everyday and you will never know who will have the good legs and victorious. As a fan, I am enjoying the excitement everyday.

[@johnford8085]

Fantastic show today fellas!!! I love it when you guys disagree! I’m going to have to watch it a few more times. I laughed and laughed 😂.

[@Cannonwoods546]

This podcast is great

[@riquelmeone]

You guys make me laugh. great show and always thrilled when Jan is mentioned

[@jonatanwigerup2450]

First time I hear Lance say to someone: You are so mean 😆 fun fact, seems like Sepp Kuss is going to do the Vuelta also, according to Procyclingstats. Talk about being busy. Mark Cavendish won in Bordeaux 2012 I think, when George Hincapie was close to get the yellow jersey, if I'm not mistaken

[@Gsp_in_NYC]

good energy today. awesome

[@promstar]

haha I love when Lance get pissed, deep down we all know that that guy knows the best

[@superuner73]

This is shaping up to be a pretty awesome tour! As always, thanks for the great coverage!

[@karinlester3066]

It is so lovely how Lance and Jan are close friends.

[@robertduncker3579]

How about George and Lance? George had to testify against Lance. How did they get past that?

[@djvincekline7338]

@@robertduncker3579 Because George is not a snitcher. Hamilton and Landis are the snitchers. Mostly Landis. "Boohoo, they catched me. But look at what Lance did...." Well yeah dude, after 2005, the cycling world changed and mr. Landis thought it was still the same cycling world. A very bad loser. Losing is not the bad thing. Snitching is. He should have said: I'm sorry, I was foolish......... But no, he had to involve somebody else (Lance in this case) to justify his own wrongdoings. Lance however, it's remarkable that he came out of the 'closet'. He didn't have to. What he did for the cycling sport, what he did for the cancer community and what he did for Jan Ullrich (otherwise he would have gone on the same path as a Marco Pantani :-( outdo all his doping usage. And, don't forget. In the 90's and early 2000's they all took PED's..... Even in the '10's there were at least 2 big riders who won the Tour de France by using PED's.... Both kept their Tours and they were not banned at all..... Is it because they are from a rich country?! And look at the Eurosport GCN combo nowadays....

[@karinlester3066]

@@robertduncker3579 true friendship.

[@eljeferaider]

Sepp should go to EF or Trek and be the man over there for GC.

[@smeetsnoud1]

Man's still believing a GC rider can have an atrocious TT and still compete for the win.

[@LIamaLlama554]

Yessss

[@LIamaLlama554]

Team Sepp 🇺🇸

[@vesnyable]

I am 16 minutes in, Lance is so shocked he forgot to read his ads 😂

[@EverythingIsPhotogenic]

When Tadej kept looking behind him I KNEW he was going to attack. 3 minutes later he launched. I'm no pro, but Jumbo messed up here, I am with Lance Also, one of the best Liutenants in history was Geraint Thomas, he was able to stay high in the standings while Froome won... I don't know that there is anything is sinister with Sepp Kuss here. One of the few things I diverge with Johann on.

[@cherielouisa6595]

I’m hooked on this recap 😊

[@JanVdV]

Absolutely agree with Lance about the irrational Jumbo tactics.

[@johnd1466]

Jumbo always suffer tactically! Look who is their no1 a crash test cyclist Roglic crashes as many times he wins!

[@Nyelands]

@@johnd1466 They are almost alway superior tactically! This was a one off.

[@jon4539]

Thanks Lance and you guys ,this is just the best podcast

[@miche_amico]

I agree with Lance. It was frustrating to watch them give Pog a free ride. Once Jumbo saw Pog wasn't dropping they could've changed their plan. Jumbo assumed Pog was going to be in the same shape as the day before, but on the first climb he looked stronger, and Jumbo seemed to ignore it. Exciting tour though!

[@billirlbeck1597]

Fantastic show today guys.

[@michaelvitiello9960]

I imagine the majority of the people watching this podcast are watching trying to get their Lance/TourDeFrance fix. Every year before the tour I have to watch, if not all, most of Lance's tours. I swear, those years were the best!!

[@Fettigator]

Kuss, Powless, Simon Yates need to get on a team together

[@Gsp_in_NYC]

well said. that would be fun

[@bluechipBBN]

any team that isn’t EF yes please

[@DJhunta]

Heck yeah as fan this was a super stage. And kudos to Neil to get back in polka dot Jersey.

[@kristofrookx8452]

Lance is spot on

[@zach3556]

Crazy how good this show is

[@billirlbeck1597]

Love ❤️ Lance Armstrong podcast. Much Respect 🙏 for Lance 🙏 Armstrong.

[@talibe801]

Thank you guys for your podcast and insight of this new generation of cyclists,Lance and George were two of my favorite cyclists.

[@kjkarcz]

I think it’s time we got a compilation just of Alain’s best work 👌🏼

[@brendanward9877]

Sean Kelly called it on Eurosport before Podagar attacked. He said he’s looking around , he doesn’t look in trouble. If he was in trouble he wouldn’t have looked around casually 3 times.

[@krisbowditch827]

He’s really really suffering big time now… Sean Kelly legend 😁🇫🇷🙏

[@billirlbeck1597]

This was so much better today with Johan. You can see how close these guys really are.

[@phenofinder9145]

Very special. Life has been crazy

[@stenbrodreng560]

it's really ricidicouls, if anybody think pogacer is the favourite now because of this stage, Vingegaard will be the strongest in the high alps

[@dwahearn]

We got to race fellas🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@pablomarquez4431]

Thanks for the wahoo promo!! Also btw the 20% off applies to the discounted ones too. I got a roam v1 for $160 😁 THANKS AGAIN LANCE! 💪

[@sechi7239]

Lance is completely accurate. The notion that Pogacar was reaching his limits was mere wishful thinking without any basis in reality. As a result, Vingegaard ended up pulling. The truth is that Vingegaard himself was pushing his own limits. He should have rejected that message on the radio and never taken the responsibility of pulling someone like Pogacar.

[@dennisgallear409]

Happy to see you guys!

[@stevenpeterson659]

Same as past tours you wonder if Pogacar even has a team. He seems to do it all by himself.

[@hugoslevin-yh4bl]

Too bad UAE didn't bring McNulty, Ayuso and Almeida.

[@teleguy5699]

@@hugoslevin-yh4bl I agree.

[@penneyahmed2393]

I’m just amazed at only one rider today…….. Wout Van Aert !!! And Lance was right on target😅

[@sondre2409]

And no mention of Tobias Halland Johannessen? He did great yesterday!

[@Doihavetochoosemynam]

The tour radio comes with a delay. The Jumbo DS was encouraging Wilco - saying Wilco had Pogi on the limit. This was obviously when Wilco was pacing ahead of Kuss, Vingegaard, Pogacar and maybe Hindley.

[@djvincekline7338]

At least all the rest of the helpers of Pogacar were gone. That was clear. TJV made a small mistake though. That was to not let Sepp go over the Tourmalet together with Jonas. With Sepp, he would have been able to pull for those other 2km and lose maybe 5 seconds on Pogacar....

[@Doihavetochoosemynam]

@@djvincekline7338 the mistake was Pogacar being better than yesterday

[@digitalnorbs]

Rumor has that Wouts 2nd baby is due before the end of the TDF. Can it be that he is just throwing down all he can before leaving the race? Or will he stay to the end?

[@onerty1]

I really cannot stop asking myself, how’d Lance deal with Poggi if he was at his prime and racing today?

[@dwahearn]

Lance would have melted his face off with his laser vision

[@RAAZR-]

Bully him or double up on bloodbags

[@martinpospisil3747]

@@jawndoekck So why would only Lance ended up being caught? If they are all doping? Or is it he over did it?

[@glywnniswells9480]

​@@martinpospisil3747he was never caught

[@WristwatchAddiction]

@@martinpospisil3747you think only Lance had Doping infractions!? Half the peloton for over a decade had plenty. All googleable.

[@nerdslikeus6690]

Where is team UAE? Jonas has so much help from his team and Tadej is all alone.

[@brendangrundlingh2445]

Hahahahaha Lance love this!

[@emetzger]

lance has every right to identify as someone who won the tour.

[@malcontent456]

Seven times.

[@ismaelamaro7728]

Quit trollin'

[@cooldude.1811]

After Jonas attacked on the Tourmalet and saw that Pog could keep up, he should have sat up and waited for Kuss to again come up and pull him up the Cauderets (along with Wout).

[@KalashniYuri]

There’s no way after 3 years you can still mispronounce the name of the greatest rider of this generation. Lance - “ hold my beer”

[@carlofino4666]

VAM = Velocità Ascensionale Media

[@dscwalker]

If you saw Pogacar took his glasses off his face and grimaced. Reminded me of Lance’s poker face against Ullrich on Alp d’Duez

[@isaksidenius7059]

Even if Jonas didnt take time today he eliminated every other copetitor and im sure all the teams hurt more tomorrow than jumbo is Cause they Got Extreme moral after this stage they were dominant!

[@nnbegin2965]

Fingers crossed FOR TADEJ POGACAR!!

[@kgsails7102]

People make mistakes and Jumbo-Visma are no exception. They thought they could put Pogacar on the floor today and didn't adjust their plan when he was able to follow on the Tourmalet and again on Cauterets-Cambasque (which, despite Wout riding an amazing tempo, was still pretty shallow climbing until the last 6 km). But hey, we get an exciting race rather than just watching Jumbo cruise into Paris simply needing only keep Jonas out of crashes.

[@fernandoayala876]

Col d'Aspin should have been a warning sign for JV and team... Jonas did not seem convinced from the get go (no wonder after the massive effort yesterday). It bothered me to see him pulling Pogacar and putting himself at the limit. Race director should have been watching the feed live and stop the senseless cheering. Learning experience for Jonas.

[@TopgunB]

Nice fight guys both right. JV thought they were going to seal the tdf today. They were wrong. If it had worked we would not be having this argument. Everything is easy through a retrospcto-scope.

[@LIamaLlama554]

Right? That’s what I’m saying. Had Vinge dropped Pog we’d be praising the strategy.

[@djvincekline7338]

@@LIamaLlama554 Hell, if Pogacar had a flat tire or so we would be praising the strategy. Also, in the sense that if Vingegaard would have had a flat tire, he would take Kelderman's, Kuss' or van Aert's bike and no worries. But no man of Pogacar was there at 1km of the top of the Tourmalet. They were killed by Kelderman and Kuss.

[@yellowquantum4240]

You guys miss the idiot with the Roman candel where the red fire ball was in Jonas face , that when Poga snapped like a kangaroo. So crazy....Best cycling to date!!!

[@MattSwain1]

If being in the break tomorrow is a punishment from the DS then I expect to see Total Energies in there based on one of their radio transmissions that was shared today… the person in the team car was very unimpressed they missed the front group today 😂

[@OneBikeForAll]

BTW, watching TdF I never thought to ever like break-ability of carbon fiber components until my better part sheered off the seatpost of the bike carried on the rooftop … parking the car into the garage… saving everything else intact. Cheers.

[@michaelvitiello9960]

The next mountain stage is going to be "Must Watch TV"!!

[@pointbreak2811]

Didn't Lance and his team do this for Joseba Beloki in the 2002 tour? Beloki was always behind their wheel in the mountain stages. Only difference was that when Lance attacked, he was unable to respond. Seems similar to me in this year's tour unless I'm missing something.

[@LegBuilder]

i agree with you lance. they were just a long lead out for Pogacar. 100% right

[@paulhurdlow3490]

Agree with Lance here. Pogacar has won the Tour, and Flanders. That's only been done by three men: Pogacar, Merckx, and Louison Bobet. By virtue of this alone, Pogacar is one of the all-time greats, and on the basis of that...don't pull him two kilometers up the Tourmalet.

[@eljeferaider]

Jumbos plan today worked today yet jonas lost time. It didn't work yesterday once Wout cracked but then rides relaxed so jonas said F this I'm going. Basically wouts presence alone changes the dynamic 100%.

[@kasperheberg7850]

Skelmose had a crash yesterday and hut his back - properly a reason to the time lose

[@Trofinios]

The mistake TJV was after Tourmalet when it was clear that Pog was on a good day. TJV got too greedy, Vingegaard had distanced Hindley by 2 minutes and he was 53s up on Pog, great be content with that. Instead Vingegaards starts pulling way too long on the steep section on the last climb, that was not needed, he more or less set up Pog for an attack. What the hell was Grischa thinking?

[@NeilHMohamed]

100%

[@dsmlive3982]

boys r livin the life

[@dkvikingkd233]

Given how stage 5 went I understand JV's plan on stage 6, BUT they should probably have known that Vingo sitting that much in the wind compared with Pogi would cost him a lot of energy (combined on the two stages). But I saw Jonas on danish tv after the race that night and he didn't have a shred of regret or worry, I still think he'll win😉

[@djvincekline7338]

It all depends on how TJV is going to do it from now (or tomorrow) on. If I would be the DS of TJV I would give free way to the attackers. The more people attack the better and preferably always somebody from TJV. In fact, if Sepp has the legs, I would send Sepp out together with either van Baarle, Van Hooydonck, Benoot or van Aert on Sunday and gain as much time as possible. Maybe he could wear the Yellow Jersey after the stage to the Puy de Dome. At least, it would be UAE who would have to do all the pulling and either Kelderman or van Aert would be the luitenant for Jonas. Screw UAE with their oil dollars. Next to INEOS the richest team in the world and their helpers Majka, Soler and Yates are screaming for their mama's when Wilco 007 Kelderman is pulling :-D

[@tymanski1]

on point ;)

[@5508Vanderdekken]

2:51 | 21:55

[@Steve-Riverwood]

Skjelmose suffered from backpains related to his crash yesterday.

[@timliscum2861]

Jumbo swung for the fence but grounded out

[@johnraw98]

Let’s just take a break and appreciate how after so many years Lance still cracks up everything he listens to French lol

[@ismaelamaro7728]

Typical American

[@choosenickey7562]

We support you Lance!! People looove to bully people into agreeing with their sky is pink and water is purple mentality.. So they get to “live their truth” but he can’t live his?” Wow

[@brucegelman5582]

Way to go Jumbo for burning up Wout!