The Legend of Vox Machina "Shadows At The Gate" // Reaction & Review

[@TheMovieCouple]

Check out our reacton to episode 5 here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rn2Wlp-lhZqUa8k

[@criticallol3039]

Pike didn't realize her block was within because it was in her blindspot.

[@blakemonway]

Yes, but also booooooooo. With nothing but love, fellow Critter.

[@PrinceIMC]

Still too soon.

[@billstephens396]

It's not like she had the scientific know-how to see it...

[@antemajetic2394]

No, go away.

[@BrandonDuckett]

CSI Miami YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

[@Juice1984]

"...written by Ashly Burch." She definitely killed it. Great script.

[@gnomesaiyan1680]

Definitely not her first kill... IfyouknowwhatImean...

[@steelangel9039]

@@gnomesaiyan1680 "Hey Ash, Whatcha Writing?"))

[@tylerboyce4081]

Great actor and great writer!

[@efrainlopez5902]

Such an under rated writer. Hope she lends a voice here and there

[@Cross177]

@@steelangel9039 Oh just a little something for Bunkers and Badasses!!!! I mean Dungeons n’ Dragons.

[@andrewrawlings5220]

Pike wasn't there for the first part of 'The Briarwood Arc' (yes, due to 'Blindspot') and her return was somewhat epic so I think they want to include it.

[@OneWingedAngelsBand]

OMG YES. For those that haven't seen Campaign 1 don't worry about Pike. Her return was so WORTH IT. 😱

[@efrainlopez5902]

Yes but I think they'll include Pike with maybe a side story while she's away from the main group. No way they leave ash out for extended periods (for either campaign) if she's available.

[@natetex5724]

I believe in an interview when asked if they were going to include moments when Pike wasn't around, Matt said that they were, but they weren't just going to write her off. They were going to show where she had gone and what she'd been up to in that time.

[@sagniksarkar2471]

@@OneWingedAngelsBand cant wait till next week. SPIRIT GUARDIANS BABYYYY

[@cloudstone123]

During the stream I kept thinking how much easier of a time they may have had during the briarwood arc if only the cleric was around.

[@epicwalrus7183]

As much as I loved the horror elements of this episode, the best bit for me was Pike and Grog, and Keyleth and Percy. My two favourite friendships from the game and they were shown so well in this episode.

[@nuru666]

Pike/Grog scene #2 in this episode is such a fuckin tear jerker, they nailed Grogs facial expressions to the wall

[@operative2136]

Little differences between the show and the campaign. They definitely nailed the general feel of the situation. Loved all 3 of the episodes they released for this leg of the journey. Gotta say, I absolutely adore that they do a really good job of making it feel like the party is under genuine threat during those fight scenes.

[@devinspencer1678]

In the Q&A, Sam mentioned that the animators needed to be convinced to really hurt the party. As you can see, they eventually got the hint, lol

[@danielvanpatten5815]

@@devinspencer1678 Yeah. Looking back at the Brimscythe fight, which was still very well animated, you can see the party getting hit without really taking visual damage. This is a big improvement in the attacks looking VERY damaging.

[@danilooliveira6580]

yeah the first two episodes were very much the weak part of the show for me, it felt extremely rushed, specially without all the arcs that actually made them the defenders of emon, but now that we finally kicked the briarwood arc open its looking pretty good. but at least if the next episode tells us anything is that all those arcs are canon in the show, but maybe they happened off screen.

[@themocaw]

@@danielvanpatten5815 I was actually taken aback at how bad Vox Machina got hurt this fight. The moment Kiki casts Daylight and they turn the tide, it still feels desperate, like they're terrified the light will die out and they'll be dead. Percy screaming in terror and rage as he wrestles with then curb-stomps the wraith is amazing.

[@TheHutt0326]

If I had to rank members of Vox Machina on how likely I thought they were to make me cry I would of put Grog pretty low. "What if I need you?" Had me in shambles.

[@jamesclark4532]

And then you get to episode 5... Had me bawling like a baby

[@TidalShadow]

Grog is the perfect example of a low intelligence but high wisdom RP character. He doesn't have the best understanding of nuance, but he's really good at picking up on emotional cues. It's what makes so many of the things he says feel so visceral.

[@BeinIan]

@@TidalShadow Even in game, when everyone was improvising their lines and thinking about combat abilities and stuff, Travis still always did a phenomenal job roleplaying Grog. It's very easy to fall into the trap of turning a dumb character into a caricature. But Travis gave him depth in so many ways. SPOILER BELOW about a Pike/Grog moment from C1E75. When Grog asked Pike to teach him how to read, I cried. It's a complex emotion expressed in such a simple way, like he's really saying, "I know I'm not as smart as everyone else, and that feels bad so I want to be smarter." I was always the smart one, and my brother was always the athletic one, so I remember seeing that same pain in his eyes before he found and harnessed his own intellectual strengths. Brilliantly expressed, all while being a hilarious scene that follows the Show, Don't Tell rule.

[@kherubim1]

We haven't gotten to "Fix him!" yet.

[@TidalShadow]

@@kherubim1 I hope we get to see it! Given the length of the Conclave Arc, that should probably be three seasons

[@mathsalot8099]

Fun fact: "Daylight" in D&D 5e is not actually made of sunlight, so it does not damage undead creatures vulnerable in the sun. It only shines regular light in the area (comparable to torchlight or candles), which imposes advantage/disadvantage on certain creatures. "Sunlight" is a much higher level spell that does act like the rays of the sun on undead foes like Vampires.

[@jlokison]

True, but a DM who wants to make a challenge but not a TPK might fudge the rules.

[@mathsalot8099]

Absolutely true! A DM can over-ride any and all rules. I just thought it was cool when you watch it back that the light doesnt actually hurt them. The other fighters are able to hit them and kill them because of the light. It was a great way to show the game mechanic of advantage/disadvantage in a visual way.

[@mallerman7515]

The spell is actually called 'Dawn' I believe

[@mathsalot8099]

@@mallerman7515 not in 5e. Not sure if it was in a different edition or not.

[@hhylobates4098]

@@mathsalot8099 No they're right, there is no "Sunlight" spell. There's Dawn, Sunbeam and Sunburst. Keyleth would be using Sunbeam, or rather beginning to learn how to use it.

[@LinaScott]

Its one thing to listen to them describe horror, but another to witness horror in its full goeyness 😳 Oh and everyone was psycho stomping 🤣

[@nuru666]

@@oriandthesleepytime Percy just having a full on melt down while curb stomping a ghoul was the comedic highlight of this episode for me, I cried I was laughing so hard

[@IceMetalPunk]

Pike and Grog's friendship is the most heartwarming, wholesome thing. As someone who only became a critter during ExU, I didn't even realize Pike and Grog grew up together. It's ridiculously sweet, especially with Grog basically being a big child 💗🥺

[@Dovieandi_Se_Tovya_Sagain]

not a critter never heard of critical role until this show dropped. But I'm loving this show. Just Subbed. Good reveiew.

[@PlaneToSpain]

It's a lot to start and sink hours into, but it's available in audio form if you can't watch. I personally watched all of campaign 2 and am currently watching 3. 2 is my bias (it's very good), but I'll watch 1 eventually after this show.

[@efrainlopez5902]

Well you're a critter now. Welcome to the community. Enjoy your journey

[@cara3566]

Welcome to the fans!

[@TheMovieCouple]

Thannk you for the sub! Welcome =)

[@sluggardly]

I was hoping we'd get more of Jarrett. I was really fond of him in the campaign, but still, that badass Aragorn moment with the torch was pretty nice.

[@isultansultangaliev5852]

He was their guard at Greyskull Keep right?

[@a_Taveren]

Jarrett was the og hotboi

[@belindaluna2067]

We get more show, we'll probably get more Jarrett. Here's hoping.

[@mathsalot8099]

They already have a season 2, and if it is what I think it is, Jarrett plays a pretty big role early on. I'm positive he's coming back.

[@sluggardly]

@@mathsalot8099 Oh, yeah, I'm sure we'll get plenty later on, just wanted more now. XD

[@iceman10129]

One thing that trips me out is that I'm so used to seeing the break fan art as representation of scenes from the campaign and the show is definitely different and my brain has to say "wait...oh"

[@steelangel9039]

1:33 "And we have just recently met the Briarwoods _proper_ ..." Matthew Mercer, is that you? 😅

[@mythomagic1771]

Oh my god, I forgot he used to say that regularly

[@steelangel9039]

@@mythomagic1771 another Mercer-ism is at 2:02 "go ahead and check out Episode 4", with the formula being "go ahead and [action]" 😅

[@masquerademage]

That was instantly my first thought lol

[@Sweet_Geisha_Skull5435]

I'm just like you Wendy. I've started critical role during the Mighty Nine. And I'm also coming to the Vox with new eyes and a clean slate. And I love this newest episode even though those ghost creatures gave me the creeps. But that just makes me want to come back for more. I can't wait to see the journey pike has to take for her to get reconnected to the ever light. And now to finally see whats the story about White stone and the drama going on in that lost city.

[@JulianCommodus]

Mighty *Nein*. And it you think these were creepy, you're in for a world of You-ain't-seen-nothin'-yet!

[@Sweet_Geisha_Skull5435]

@@JulianCommodus I knew I spelled it wrong. Thanks sweetie😘💕 oh yes I've scene up to episode 6 and now I'm scared to sleep with my lights off😱 but man the story is getting SO GOOD😆💕💕💕

[@OneWingedAngelsBand]

There is actually a D&D explanation to Pike's severed connection with the Everlight. If I'm not mistaken, it's because Pike's adventures with Vox Machina and the choices that she took made her change alignment. So in the game, Matt Mercer the DM incorporated this by having her connection with her deity severed.

[@erikrungemadsen2081]

The group went full Muderhobo in an episode of the livestream and Mercer had to reign them in. This was also around the period that Orion broke with the group so things were tense and weird for a few episodes. But the Briarwood arch is amazing, only thing better in the first campaign made up by Mercer is a certain conclave later on.

[@sybariticcupboardrat3763]

@@erikrungemadsen2081 No, her symbol breaking happened earlier in the underdark arc. It was another murder hobo episode, but not the one right before Orion left. The one you're thinking of is when Kit Buss guested as Lilith and they smoked the Broker and one of the other two sent to abduct her. I think they're playing fast and loose with the timeline of when things happened.

[@CompassRoseCreates]

If I’m not mistaken this is something that happened in the Kraighammer arc.

[@ShaggyRambo]

I'm pretty sure pike caved in the skull of a duregar in the kraghammer arc in a very brutal way, in which matt made pike unknown to Ashley switch in alignment. Because if I remember correctly the duregar was already defeated or surrendered. So a murder hobo act that Matt took and expanded on and made way more impactful. He's a genius.

[@danielvanpatten5815]

I remember being bewildered how much they got upset at Tibs for killing the unconscious woman after Grog killed several unarmed prisoners earlier in the campaign. Turned out to be mostly OOC.

[@wymans668]

Honestly, my only complaint with this series so far is how short each episode is. I want MORE!

[@hhylobates4098]

Makes me want to go and rewatch the original, full length versions...but I'm still working my through the rest of the series, only up to episode 45 😆

[@wymans668]

@@hhylobates4098Happy to be retired on my 3rd viewing of campaign 1. All caught up with Critical Role.

[@billberndtson]

06:41 Yes - when Taliesin uttered the words "it takes 3 guards to make a snowman." 🤣

[@markm1261]

You both do a great breakdown of the story. It is amazing how they condense the storyline. Did anyone else nothice that when they all were trapped in the room the center table was the Critical Role table ?

[@qixotl]

Yeah, I winced when it got smashed :D

[@Duganator]

Slight spoilers below: Ok, so in the original streamed series Trinket came with them to Whitestone and played a decent part in the combat that occurred there. Trinket got the kill on Count Tylieri and fought alongside the rest of the party against the Briarwoods. I don't know why they chose to leave him behind in this, but I suspect it may have come down to issues with animating him in combat. As for the creatures, based on powers I would say that they are either wraiths or specters and if memory serves from watching the original show, they are most likely the former.

[@bpita0202]

Crossing my fingers that Pike rides him back.

[@TheUnamazingRando]

Easter egg: the blue magical poo in a jar! Not gonna say where it was, but it's there for you to find! 😉

[@tylerboyce4081]

*CAMPAIGN SPOILERS* In the campaign stream, Lady Briarwood's monsters were Invisible Stalkers: elemental servants that will assassinate people or retrieve items at any cost. I guess these creatures are kind of the same? Intangible, preferring darkness, *very* weak to light?

[@lisagaughan7154]

I think they were Shadows.

[@nathanielranney9163]

@@lisagaughan7154 seemed more like wraiths

[@lisagaughan7154]

@@nathanielranney9163 the daylight seemed to be hurting them though, because I'm pretty sure Shadows die in sunlight and Wraiths are disorientated by it.

[@nathanielranney9163]

@@lisagaughan7154 ya but they really don't look like shadows and wraith seems to fit their appearence and abilities better due to their more physical looking form, aversion to light, draining attacks, and flight(shadows cannot fly last i checked)

[@lisagaughan7154]

@@nathanielranney9163 fair enough

[@EverythingFan02]

These episodes cleared up almost every criticism I had about the first three episodes and then some. I can’t wait to see more

[@thevikingdad4882]

All I can say is there are TONS of LOVM reactions on youtube right now....but you guys are my favorite! Please keep going!

[@Olochgu]

Before tashas, beasmaster ranger was kinda sh*t Thats why trinket is more often useless than not.

[@ttajohnson15]

Matt and Laura actually saw these flaws too and Vex was a modified beast master and only had to use a bonus action to command Trinket.

[@Olochgu]

@@ttajohnson15 was she from the beginning? Because i might be wrong but i'm pretty sure i remember her having to choose between her attack and trinkets. But it's been a while.

[@danilooliveira6580]

@@Olochgu yeah I think they changed that lattter, not sure when though

[@xavierestelles9327]

Fun fact! (SPOILERS FOR C2) . . . . . . . . Delilah is so fucked up she was expelled from the FUCKING CERBERUS ASSEMBLY

[@lucasxfiuza]

That's quite a feat. Not even Trent Ikithon was expelled for a long time...

[@AngelusNZ]

Really enjoying your reactions to the episodes. I started watching Campaign 1 about the time of the Briarwood arc - i remember the Dinner as one of the first episodes i watched (then went back and binged the early sessions with the other character before he left). I do like some of the easter eggs they throw into the background of the scenes (eg in the Keep, one of the rooms has a big wooden table, that is a replica of their Campaign Table that was crafted - with the cut-out seat spot for the DM) Keep up the great work.

[@5KAmenshawn]

I love that they're differentiating character levels by having the guardsmen getting effectively one shot by the undead while VM can take more hits. Granted, those hits suck, but it works out mechanics-wise. I love it.

[@arlyssstewart3040]

They visualized the monsters' incorpreal form, sunlight sensitivity and life drain so well in this. Truly horrifying This was very different from the campaign in detail but it hits all the story beats it needs too and it really sets up the next two episodes well

[@myTERAexperience]

That laughing fit with the stomping... I am now convinced you're an arch villain outside of youtube. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll]

"Creepy shit incoming!"

[@doctordoom6939]

The table.... the campaign 2 table in the keep!!

[@y813lnJack]

Grinning and jumping in my seat. Loving this and excited for the next two.

[@richieroberts16]

Really good way to set the tone for the next batch of episodes this week. I loved seeing the spectral enemies they faced. Just a really good concept for an enemy type. Very creepy and dark and I am here for it.

[@Espinozaize]

10:50 That is a lie. They did NOT tend to leave Trinket behind at all. As I recall that happened once when they had to go through a sewer system that he was to big for a bear & Sam had to ask Laura really politely to get that result. I mean the Beast Master class that Laura took as a ranger...Is the worst. The animal you have can be kind of effective until say Lvl. 3 then it becomes useless. That is why Scanlan/Sam hated Trinket. He was worthless in combat & a waste of resources. Yet still very cute you cannot deny that

[@DocEonChannel]

They did bring Trinket along in the campaign, but he was more a hindrance than a help. I think that was when they started to realize exactly how weak a beastmaster ranger is, and Matt started to houserule it a little.

[@celticson]

I just realized that Percy's fauxhawk might be a reference to Taliesan's mowhawk.

[@soccertl]

I wonder if the cleric will level up at the temple. Interesting story, so glad you are covering this.

[@greigclement9081]

I'm loving how hardcore D & D this gets.

[@drawingabyss]

Anyone else think the table they laid scanlan on after the initial fight looked like the wyrmwood table that was built for their second campaign?

[@n4l9bx]

definitely :)

[@lancewhiteeagle3203]

That was such a good episode. Pike leaving was more emotional than I anticipated.

[@chrishull6665]

Fun watching the reactions.

[@sybariticcupboardrat3763]

I don't think I like the change in the dynamic between Jarett and Vox Machina. Jarett was always so friendly with them and they admired him and thought he was cool. Here he talks down to them. I do like that they've changed the timeline on Keyleth's emotional and magical progression. She was pretty powerful at this point and already a bit more confident. This way people who haven't seen campaign 1 will get to see some of what she was like in the earlier days.

[@PrinceIMC]

I didn’t even realize it was Jarrett.

[@nox_tech_]

i feel like jarett as he is here was an adjustment made for new viewers. what everyone else would have seen would have been as uriel described, as shady as the briarwoods are. so imo it makes sense for jarett to be professional around them. and even then, after the events in this episode, he's already friendly with scanlan at the end of this episode. so, briarwood fiasco notwithstanding, his friendliness would likely show through later on.

[@hhylobates4098]

Even the accent change, its so different and makes him sound stiff and uptight rather than laid black. With the change to the timeline of only just getting their keep I suppose there's just no time to properly introduce a full household of staff.

[@sybariticcupboardrat3763]

@@nox_tech_ .... Jarett was Vox Machina's employee. It was a completely different relationship. He was a badass guard they hired to protect their keep. They never even said whether or not Jarett had heard about Vox Machina being in legal trouble due to the Briarwoods incident.

[@nox_tech_]

@@sybariticcupboardrat3763 i know that. vox machina was the only campaign i caught up on so far. it's a different relationship because it's different circumstances. the angle they're working with in the show is that they're earning their way up. originally it was pre-stream that they had auditions for guardsmen, and then he's the chad bro guard. here, he's introduced taking their weapons away, saying they'll get returned if vox machina is exonerated. he knows they're in legal trouble, and he's the one informing them of it, and enforcing what's necessary as the situation requires. if you want a dynamic similar to what they had in-stream, you'd need a similar context to what they had before. though the critters who donated to the kickstarter gave a fuckton, the end result is that we've got 12 episodes for this season. so do you have an actual suggestion for - within these 12 episodes they have - how the episodes should've been paced to include a guard audition segment? they're in this series as a group earning their respect while at the bottom of the barrel, banned from every bar and supposedly incapable of simple missions. in the context of the animated series, again, how should Vox Machina's Badass Friendly Guard be presented? what the animation gives us is that this dude's a guardsman on behalf of emon and tasked with keeping vox machina under house arrest. and now he's the last among his guardsmen, and he didn't even get grabbed the entire night, like vox machina did, and he lit a torch, which helped vox machina realize the wraiths' weakness. his men were crying out for him, as if to hope he could save them in their last moments, so clearly the guardsmen look up to him. part of the mess he's stuck with is that he's gonna be the one questioned for failing to keep vox machina under house arrest and losing all his own men. chances are that he'd be cleared of possible troubles offscreen after the briarwood arc concludes, and he'd just vaguely end up their guard with a throwaway line to explain as much. lukewarm way of tying things up, but it's a grounded enough possibility. on the flip side, the city might fire him from being part of the arms of emon, and then he'd be a guard without a job, with the story giving some logic to it. then, vox machina, vindicated of the vampiric mess, and probably with some more coin claimed, would have their messy keep and no more house arrest. so theeeeen vox machina can hire some guards on their own terms. and theeeeen there's some logic in the context of the animated series as to how this band of misfits gets staff for their keep.

[@stevensorrell1625]

A relationship so pure they go to "houses of lady favors" together. I like what they include. Still, I would have liked to see what was left out...like Victor. Maybe he will appear in the second season. The better include "Key' fish!" I get that non-plot elements must be abandoned, but I think EVERYONE wants Key'fish.

[@maartenvandersteen5134]

Been waiting for this after watching the episodes this morning. So happy.

[@Hey-Its-Dingo]

Not really a spoiler, but Trinket kept being a liability because the 5e Beast Master Ranger was REALLY weak at launch. It got a big update last year, in Tasha's Cauldron of Everything, but it's still not an amazing subclass, sadly.

[@Batsage]

Vox Machina did (gently...ish) interrogate Desmond in their Keep in the campaign! But I think it made more sense for the Council to let them take him prisoner there, since they'd built more of a relationship than they have in the animated series so far. (And it wasn't essential to the plot, just...really added to how goddamn horrifying the Briarwoods were, and how tragic what they'd done to Whitestone was.)

[@stixaw]

This is such an amazing episode... my god it literally the best episode so far!

[@pcbutler1971]

I think Pike split from the group correlates to Ashley's time in NY when she couldn't play while doing her tv show? Maybe?

[@Willqer]

6:37 I thought about it to. "We ARE the baddies".

[@ricardoramos1059]

Didnt expect D&D campaign + insidious+ the conjuring rolled into one nevertheless i was terryfied and yet surprised, as for pike her bond with grog is a true friendship goals. Now were heading to whitestone to take on the briarwoods and their horde. Sideonote in they did live action D&D horror movie i say get james wan to direct. Also ####duck is my new word of choice

[@weirdvideos6758]

Spoilers for campaign 3 I love how when they're being attacked by the ghosts black liquid starts coming from the eyes and mouth kind of like marisha's character in campaign 3 and her magic and it makes sense to because lady briarwood is her patron

[@Obscure_T]

I’m waiting for the door reaction 😂

[@billberndtson]

There were so many "oh my god"s in this reaction that I felt it was too dangerous to do the drinking game. 😜

[@TheMovieCouple]

Lol

[@marsmech]

The wraith fight was amazing.

[@confox007]

The table!!!

[@stixaw]

I like the Ashoka T!

[@matties1681]

VM SPOILER . . . . . . . . "is she undead?" "no" 👀👀👀👀

[@Phanto5692]

I think I'll watch this episode next Halloween. It seems to be the perfect horror episode.

[@MrSHADOWANGEL999]

those poor guards do not get paid enough

[@tristanmilner9511]

For this show, I feel you should be called The Critter Couple.

[@golfer435]

Pike was not there during the Briarwood arc

[@jeremiahalonzo]

When your busier, more adult party member needs to miss sessions. We've all been there

[@adddash8637]

But Trinket killed a freaking vampire T_T I wanted him in Whitestone lol

[@OneWingedAngelsBand]

"Is she undead?" No she's not. But to explain it without spoiling anything, let's just say she's part of someting bigger and more sinister. 🤫

[@Sirenhunter5]

Monsters might have been Phantoms

[@chiefoftheoldgods8912]

Fairly certain vampires are classified under Undead.

[@bpita0202]

SPOILERS if you want it: Sylas is a vampire, but Delilah is human. She is, however, an extremely powerful necromancer.

[@littlepeach2010]

Lets be honest if they had kept Pike in the whole arch, then the Brierwoods wouldn't have stood a chance of winning,

[@michaelwestendorf9105]

Like I said the more that you guys share the videos of the Cartoon the better I feel about being a part of it although I don’t get to see the whole episode I get it at least some of it thank you once again for what you doing

[@billstephens396]

Bidet!

[@bellehatespapayas]

SPOILERS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . can't believe they killed Jarret............. assuming his whole Scanlan looking for what he thinks are drugs for Jarret doesn't happen now, in what would be season 2 the chroma conclave, and that's truly disappointing. So much banter and complete stupidity forever gone

[@AL-cc3mj]

fun fact about me I somehow managed to completely skip this ep and didn’t realize until after I finished an 2

[@lacondrathompson1747]

I love you 😘💕❤️

[@mayaenglish5424]

Lol as much as I love Sprinkle, Trinket is actually a real character, not an afterthought.

[@KaraOni13]

Delilah IS undead, but she is not a vampire

[@isaac5625]

Not undead at least in the original show if you dont mind spoilers I can explain...

[@DisneyLover258]

Like, I would count her as undead even if her undeadness is not the NORMAL kind that people think of but spoilers for (hopefully) season 3 or 4 with (hopefully) Mark Hamill voicing him as the cast has fan cast since their VM days

[@KaraOni13]

@@isaac5625 don’t. I’ve seen the campaign thanks

[@isaac5625]

@@DisneyLover258 I would say its a very strong possibility even for the end of this season as he was mentioned and whispered in the end of the Briarwoods arc in the show and Mark Hamill can be a suprise voice they kept from telling In their cast revealing and I would say his participation in TLOVM is strengthed by the fact he already voicing in another Amazon Prime animated show so he has all the tie ins for that

[@isaac5625]

@@KaraOni13 so you know shes not. So why saying that ?

[@johnbowen2496]

spoilers in the campaign he killed desmond,

[@hhylobates4098]

No he didn't?