The evolution of academia in the fitness industry with Dr. Mike Israetel

In this conversation, Mike Israetel, Co-Founder of Renaissance Periodization, discusses his career trajectory, the founding of RP, and the evolution of academia and the fitness industry.
He shares his experiences as a professor and content creator, highlighting the differences between formal education and private industry. Mike also discusses the future of education and the significance of degrees in the fitness industry.
Mike Israetel also provides guidance on evaluating fitness content and developing a bullshit detector. Mike shares his approach to managing criticism and responding to attacks, emphasizing the importance of choosing when and how to respond. He also addresses the topic of influencers who shoot down others and offers insights on navigating such situations.
Mike also shares his motivation for discussing broader topics and the impact of progress on society. He delves into the potential of artificial intelligence and its transformational power. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of continuous learning and embracing change.
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0:00 Introduction and Background
3:33 Career Trajectory and Education
11:37 Starting Renaissance Periodization (RP)
19:13 Content Creation and OnlyFans
22:35 Academia vs Private Industry
28:00 Evolution of Academia and Fitness Industry
34:51 Future of Education and Significance of Degrees
39:06 The Significance of Credentials in the Fitness Industry
46:23 Navigating the ROI of Formal Education in Content Creation
49:31 Developing a Bullshit Detector for Evaluating Fitness Content
50:26 Providing Guidance for Consumers in Evaluating Fitness Content
56:23 Managing Criticism and Responding to Attacks
1:11:46 Addressing Influencers Who Shoot Down Others
1:17:50 Admitting Mistakes and Improving Technique
1:19:09 Extracting Value from Criticism
1:20:01 The Consequences of Bullying
1:20:55 The Impact of Making Fun of Someone's Technique
1:22:47 The Power Dynamics of Talking Up and Down the Hierarchy
1:23:53 The Motivation to Discuss Broader Topics
1:24:19 Understanding Society and Progress
1:25:28 The Personal Experience of Progress
1:26:10 The Complexity of Organizing Society
1:28:22 The Potential of Artificial Intelligence
1:31:08 The Upsides of Artificial Intelligence
1:34:26 The Progress of Human Civilization
1:36:46 The Transformational Power of Artificial Intelligence

[@oldchudmuffin7313]

It's refreshing to hear different line of questions then the usual that's asked of Mike good job

[@TomosFlynn]

True. I was immensely disappointed by chris Williamson's podcast with Mike. Just boring old how much volume should I do questions. Such a waste of an opportunity to explore such an interesting and brilliant mind.

[@paddy3622]

a guy like mike can change peoples lives for the better. every gym should hire a guy like mike. i realize that's unrealistic but i think we all see people doing exercises incorrectly. including myself.

[@SantoryuKauboi]

Realizing you can always improve your lifting form is the greatest mindset to have. Keep truckin.

[@captainsunshine64]

It should be the job of the gym staff, but so many people hate being corrected that it isn't the norm. We need to leave our egos at the door and listen to people who know what they're talking about

[@joshuamarks1129]

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ What the world needs now is more TedTalks from Dr. Mike

[@spencersivco8503]

This whole interview was great, but something about Mike trying to hold it down while Jordan is laughing about dead Leo was hilarious to me 😂

[@CLOUDKID11]

That was fucked up by Jordan, maybe a chuckle would've been ok.....but hysterically laughing at a dead guy (almost equivalent to laughing at someone that has down syndrome)

[@hoops133]

i’ve watched tons of podcasts w mike and i loved hearing the different set of questions asked here. Great job!

[@nikolajovanovic9048]

You really started 2024 with a bang in terms of podcasts, great job!

[@wrxman16]

Epic combo of experts! So glad you got dr Mike on! I love that guy!

[@BrianDeCosta]

I need an RP program to increase my brain wattage hypertrophy to at least 50% of Mike's level

[@BillMcChode]

Woah so much Dr Mike lore :0

[@moisesojeda5647]

Just watched bro chat podcast dr mike yesterday 👌 cant get enough drmike

[@ItsEC0TT]

Hey man I just found your channel. This podcast should be way bigger. Keep up the great work brother

[@The_MKUltra]

HOLY SHIT! Two of my most OG fitness influences!

[@ObboB223]

Dr Mike is the best

[@Burkhimself]

The Goat ! 💪🏼

[@mjouppi]

Dr. Mike is maybe the best speaker ever!🔥🔥🔥

[@SLouiss]

Great podcast run

[@petergause1760]

Take drink every time Mike says "thats a great question"😂

[@stevendibble5739]

What a great interview thank you

[@blinehop927]

I’ve been waiting for this one!

[@ortatraining]

I remember seeing you post a story on IG about this and I was so hype. Let’s get cancelled! 🔥🔥🔥💪🏽

[@sjuvanet]

I don't know if Dr. Mike is still a professor because I didn't see information regarding a schedule for Spring 24 or the upcoming Fall semester. He might just be taking a lil break tho, or decided to make that "calculated decision" to quit.

[@Nick_Lawhead93]

Hell yeah less go!

[@Mr_NB628]

How long do we think until Greg makes a response video? 😂😂

[@kytriesstuff]

The collab we all needed! Comment for the algo

[@diablominero]

I think there's some chance AI will relate to us the way we relate to the evolutionary forces that shaped us, rather than the way a wrench relates to us. Evolution hates contraception as much as we hate dying, but we got what we want and evolution got the finger because we can plan. If AI is that much better than us at planning and thinking, maybe our desire to live will get the finger.

[@paddy3622]

i didn't know mike when to Michigan. go blue.

[@Mr_NB628]

The future is gonna be fucking cool.

[@Forgottenfren]

Everyone knows the reason you head is the shape is because you are really Mariusz Pudzianowski’s son

[@Metalkake]

Great episode gentlemen! However please fix the title to "Israetel"

[@canceresbunny]

Im amased at how expensive education is up there. I have free education and have amount to nothing. I really need to get my shit togueter...

[@kman9884]

Bromley fuming rn

[@lolowhy]

UCM Go Mules!!

[@Reppintimefitness]

Wassup Doc

[@jettfuelfitness]

Mike talks like he’s on Ritalin all the time. Luckily what comes out is pretty good.

[@drmrguy2]

Yeah Greg Doucette really has gone downhill unfortunately. I used to love him when he was more authentic :(

[@stevegaspar]

TBF Sam Sulek is finishing his engineering degree but yes doesn't have a degree yet

[@Crokto]

lmao where are the dr mike vids about AI?

[@limitisillusion7]

Channel: Mike Israetel making progress

[@clowngeetwo2825]

I am from the suburbs of Toronto and Dr Mike helped me realise all the problems with communism and the benefits of capitalism

[@johntatman9168]

WIth all the academia now in the gym one has to wonder if the current drugs were pared back to what little was used in Arnolds day would these bodybuilders really be any bigger/stronger. How much has the science really helped. I really believe all the variations in training professed by the PHDs do not actually help as much as these experts think they do. Maybe one of them will be inquisitive enough to do a randomized controlled study to prove/disprove all the hype. Meanwhile it's all opinion.

[@Freakmaster480]

If you're honestly curious then I'd try to look at the progression of natural bodybuilders throughout the years.

[@Reppintimefitness]

Just imagine If you had Me on the show

[@startstrongyt]

idk why you gotta keep shitting/mentioning on gregg doucette. I dont watch his videos and couldnt care less about hid content but you bringing it up on those occasions is kinda weird

[@tntcheats]

Mike giving off some real 4chan incel 'enlightened centrist' vibes in this one

[@vicvin64]

Mike's wrong about Jeff nippard. He's absolutely dishonest and misleads in order to push his narrative. Powerbuilding bro. Minimalist training bro. Heavy compounds for the best gains bro. To failure every session bro. He has called macrofactor "my app" not Nuckols created and I Co own this app. He's the 6th author on a narrative review that he called "my study" He's incredibly unscrupulous by masquerading as an expert without correcting that misconception. He has a BSc that he never mentions and despite that general education and lack of expertise feels confident analyzing research to his Gen pop audience. They presume he knows how to analyze statistics research methods how studies fit in the hierarchy of evidence because he speaks so confidently as if he's qualified. Anyways I hate the guy. Makes great visual content he's a good editor and marketer but an expert he is not. Bang on about Leo Longevity tho that dude was out of his gourd he literally said one time that he doesn't listen to music because...... dopamine. The internet is rife with mechanist masturbators its so annoying. In that respect I think having a masters or PhD is critical to be an online content creator otherwise the lay audience is predisposed to be manipulated but nefarious actors. Edit Mike's also wrong about Rogan he's incredibly insecure and sensitive to criticism he comments every time even small content creators say things about him being wrong about this or that. Kevin bass the nutrivore lol.

[@soonahero]

PT’s help the general public and a lot of them barely finished high school. Fundamentally getting in shape isn’t that hard. You’re supposed to be in shape. The CDC guidelines are plenty. We don’t need nascar coaches to give drivers license lessons

[@closinginonclosure]

The guy interviewing Dr. Mike has a serious problem with improperly using words, or contextually using them incorrectly. Particularly, it's words that would be considered "larger" or not simple and elementary words. So basically, this guy is repeatedly using words outside of his vocabulary, in an attempt to sound smarter than he actually is. In an attempt to sound smarter than he actually is, it backfires, and he just ends up sounding like a doinker to anybody with an education, and actually understands the words he's attempting to use. My guess is that he may be trying to impress Dr. Mike. Meanwhile, Mike is probably noticing the repeated misuse of words, and thinking to himself that the guy is a few bricks shy of a full load.

[@closinginonclosure]

Just reached roughly the halfway point, and found out this guy supposed has a doctorate? Wow, that's unbelievable if it's true. To have your doctorate and still be so ignorant.

[@sublimesense7761]

this guy wouldn't stop rambling. every time he would take another breath I would be in disbelief that he still hadn't started the video. GET TO THE INTERVIEW

[@yilli_9109]

Where was "BLM" instantiated? What does it even mean for BLM to be instantiated? Mike didn't even provide what that means.

[@philipschofield7105]

So dr. Mike doesn't like Greg, but if it weren't for Greg, Mike wouldn't be anything on the tube... true leftist mentality. I used to be a fan of dr mike, but now I'm just too annoyed by everything else he does. I'd rather watch Greg. I would expect more logical thinking from. Dr mike. Still not sure how this shit still ends up a suggestion in my tube

[@theparadisesnare]

He’s living in your head rent free lmao. gg

[@philipschofield7105]

@theparadisesnare used to. Super bothersome when you follow someone and believe in them, then they turn out to be extra in the wrong ways. I watched him to learn not to know about his political stance or why he doesn't like some people of others. I guess it's just disappointing man.

[@researcher_21c72]

You don't like mike talking shit but would listen to greg doucette? Lmao get the fuck Outta hea 😂

[@jenkemsniffer8897]

im not sure why you would be interested in greg if you liked RP vids before, he’s the fakest most gossipy dude ever, puts on a fake high pitched voice and shrieks like a girl to bait attention, the drama alert of bodybuilding lol

[@Sluttybags]

Mike is definitely a ZZ man