Ursula K. Le Guin: Listening to the Unheard Voices

[@thespenserdavis]

"The future in science fiction is just a metaphor for now." That is one of the most elegantly simplistic statements I've ever heard about the genre.

[@randomwildlife206]

What a wonderful person. 'If we are going to get anywhere we really going to have to listen to each other.' Seems obvious but perfectly and beautifully put. The world is a smaller place without her.

[@kathyd2945]

"The future in science fiction is just a metaphor for now" .... Wow, I just love that. I also noticed that her eyes welled with tears when she described the current state of our environment as a result of technology. Damn. This whole thing is such a great interview. Thank you for posting.

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[@pyrrho314]

RIP, great great woman and writer. I just have been reading the Hainish novels collected in two volumes and thinking a lot about her for the last couple months. Her fiction should be in the classroom, so not-preachy but evocative... just... RIP.

[@sebby1587]

what an absolute freaking legend. Love this woman

[@sebby1587]

she's the only person I know of that rocked the bowl cut to the point where it's not even a bowl cut anymore it's reached imperial symbolic like status

[@ad7265]

@@akwon1618 you take this L lmao

[@HappyGrl41]

I got to this brilliant and visionary woman late but I'm glad I was able to hear what she has to say. I love this interview and her fears for the future are well justified. The world has lost an important ally. RIP Ms. Le Guin.

[@innocentmaps]

"I think when I was 15 I just saw open doors!" (Laughs)...A wonderful interview and my compliments to INTERVIEWER & The Nation. That this is only 10 mins long is... Wow. So much in here to examine, unpack, consider, and like she always does, Ursula has infused her answers with candor, mirth, personality, and questions that are remarkable for their resonance, provocative relevance and her ability to speak simply and powerfully about some heavy and provocative issues without sacrificing any truths. She was a wise and beautiful woman who was as loved as she was loving. . Thank you Ursula for all you gave us. It's a comfort to know you're keeping a loving meta eye on us and the directions of our questionable progress.

[@PSYMASMann]

Perhaps Zoe was a little leading with that question, expecting a different answer. Zoe's laugh is rather dismissive.

[@shadowfox6438]

I love how she speaks. It's simple but powerful.

[@wowproductions3779]

She was and is an inspiration ❤

[@IchabodSpoonbill]

One of the greats.

[@depressoespresso420]

So good! But wish she was given more time to elaborate, could listen to her talk forever

[@els1f]

I genuinely love this person 😊

[@plantefitch]

I love this woman!

[@davidwivagg7393]

I have enjoyed her stories. I have written an I-Ching, but nobody wants it. I have even derived during my pain as a driver the order of the I-Ching. Now I hear her talking about progress like I have before to the voices in my head. Literally, the I-Ching is written to denounce the voices in one's head as perversions with which one needn't associate.

[@diaargh]

I love her so much

[@zodiak121]

where can I see the whole video?

[@South_African_Spirituality]

we meets love everywhere

[@alexanderkirko]

Progress gets harder to define, the more developed an economy becomes. If there is no safe drinking water, then it's trivial to pinpoint.

[@lynchburgva8118]

"..the dominant European white imperial voice has got us where we are - and it's not a very good place."

[@vasilikid]

she saw everything clearly

[@bakkermaarten007]

Well, that's clearly nonsense. The white imperial voice has brought the world tremendous scientific, economic and cultural progress.

[@rosstatham4718]

@@bakkermaarten007 Given her writing and interests, I would assume she means *culturally* "we" (the US, I guess) are not in a good space. Pretty bang on I'd say, given that the nation elected Trump the next year.

[@xlzspwns]

​@@bakkermaarten007 your so-called progress comes at the expense of the exploitation of countless people. Indigenous people of the Americas were slaughtered for their land. The people of Africa and indigenous people were forced into slave labor to produce wealth for white elites. The industrial revolution and everything after it has brought us increasingly closer to climate disaster with unhesitating usage of fossil fuels. Fast fashion, fast food, and fast-paced lifestyles lead to child workers across the world in sweatshops, exploitation of farmer's labor for corporate profits, food deserts and the erosion of non-corporate lifestyles, autoways that flatten massive swaths of greenery and people's homes to create giant, flat, gray concrete slabs that house our cars at the expense of pedestrian accessibility. Social media that leads to increased "bubbling", isolation, anxiety in many young. New technologies that are released without being properly vetted (Gen AI) and the worship of technocrat billionaires. The fact that our institutions, having been built on countless generations of institutional slavery and racism have now made a full swing back in to overtly racist, fascist attidues again..? But yes, one cannot deny that there has been "progress".... However it is that you chose to define this word (by excluding human wellbeing from its definition, apparently).

[@shaunhall960]

Progress for who? Exactly!

[@susanlockhart9345]

We need to listen to the other voices....like the youth

[@Enjoyurble]

8:30 "You can progress towards evil just as easy." Well don't give anyone any ideas!

[@redazarouri6181]

I need samone to translate dis vidéo to arabic because i dont understand a lot of englich i am just start Reading englisch

[@robincrowflies]

Wow. Technology is what humans do. It's how we deal with the world. I would add that stories is what humans do, and how we create the world.

[@Doctor_Paxmor]

Technology is not what has put us on the current trajectory. Capitalism is. To conflate these two things is absurd.

[@ximono]

Our use of technology has. It's not just capitalism, marxism has also shown its willingness to exploit nature in the name of progress.

[@ekkiazure]

@@ximono unlike capitalism, Marxism is not an economic system, but rather an analytical framework that seeks to explain the socioeconomic dynamics that propel historical movement. as an economic system, capitalism operates under the imperative of perpetual growth, which simple reasoning will reveal to be incompatible with its containment within a planet of limited space and limited resources.

[@kevinrussell1144]

You lie. Marxism is not an "analytical framework" but a recipe book for tyranny and control, of the economic kind. Capitalism does NOT insist on perpetual growth, but perpetual change. Capitalism, in its pure essence, is use of resources for the production of goods and service governed by a market.@@ekkiazure

[@kevinrussell1144]

Current trajectory of what??? Tyranny, pedophilia, ginned up racial strife, slave factories? Capitalism supports NONE of these, but Communism and "Progressive" Thought do.

[@neetfreek9921]

People did. I find it very hard to believe that just changing an economic system will entirely reform our species. Also capitalism can become benevolent with enough social structures within it and people to enforce it. At the end of the day people just need to become better. More empathetic, better educated, and healed through the hereditary abuse we perpetuate in our society.

[@bambiterranova5837]

God I love Ursula Le Guin but it hurts to hear she bought into Malthusian "population growth" nonsense, especially as someone who was known to be critical of capitalism.

[@RaxeCAT]

Not that food and resources can't be distributed in a more humane/democratic way than capitalism but it's true Earth has a limited amount of resources and we can reach it with more and more progress towards it.

[@gg3675]

It’s disappointing how lazily people take all reference to “population growth” in terms of ecology to be Malthusian. You had all the pieces there. Calling her a Malthusian is insulting af.

[@VerleneShamel-w4z]

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[@robincrowflies]

Mic drop at the end. Epitome of mic drop right now. October 30, 2024. Get out the vote, y'all.

[@level1life79]

The unheard voices? I listen to people of all colors and genders all the time, the animals are the unheard voices.....shut tight behind walls and packaged clean so people are ignorant of the suffering they endure.

[@Khultan]

RIP

[@awolpeace1781]

Not well thought out solutions, comeup on the quick, quickly become problems

[@pushista9322]

Too many "we". It's not "we" who silence women and people of color. It's not "we" who destroy the nature. It's a very small group of the richest people who own the majority of lands, resources, factories - and they also own the governments of different countries because the budgets at their disposal exceed most countries' GDP. It's rather sad to see the wise elderly Ursula, who can say pretty much was she likes at this point, to be apprehensive and ambiguous around this topic. Western capitalist censorship runs deep.

[@isawamoose]

I feel sorry for the people who thought this was enlightening.

[@nikokosanovich6475]

what is it about youtube comment sections where people act like the most condescending know-it-all’s. congrats on ur massive, massive brain

[@isawamoose]

@@nikokosanovich6475 thanks bro! It's taken awhile to get here, I'd like to thank the academy....

[@kaneda7368]

@@nikokosanovich6475 They don't even feel the need to expand, just say whatever and feel like they added something to the discussion. It would almost be annoying if I didn't remind myself none of this matters anyway.

[@richdubbya]

She noticed the negative aspects of wokism years ago.

[@BlueMatty]

Wtf are you even on about

[@sonstige]

What?? You didnt get her i guess