FULL RESPONSE | SaVon & Alex Address The R&M Situation | "Misplaced Energy"

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[@donnacooper9746]

It’s nothing wrong with saying you are overworked and underpaid. We all feel like that. It’s pushing that on Mal and Rory like they were the main one feeling that way

[@sdot7117]

Rory and Mal BEEN saying that. Are we catching amnesia??

[@edworeyes]

@@sdot7117 completely skipping over that last sentence lol

[@sdot7117]

@@edworeyes technically they were the MAIN ones. They hired an auditor so they could get more money 😂

[@davidearle7209]

Well I’m confused because isn’t one of the reasons they left was because Joe wasn’t paying them as much as he could’ve been? Isn’t that the root of the accounting Joke that Rory and mal make all the time

[@2Muchpjp]

​@@sdot7117there is plenty of old JBP footage of Mal and Rory saying what the issue is. Someone already made a compilation lol. In one clip Rory sais to Joe, on air, in 2021, that the staff told him they were overworked and underpaid. Mal immediately followed that up with his only issues being respect and transparency with the buisness. To top it all off, pause, Parks, on today's pod sad Alex and Savon lied. Joe budden is a formet pill poping dust head, just to remind yall lmao.

[@denisetrice5604]

Nobody said anything derogatory about NTK podcast. He called out Alex saying "Mal and Rory came to him and complained about being overworked and underpaid." Savon kinda got caught a stray. Other than that the interview was informative. Why didn't Alex play what he said? Alex knew he Lied.

[@azaelandy04]

I went back to the episode and Alex pretty clearly said “they were (Rory and Mal) discussing the workflow, feeling overworked and how we can move things around” … “why y’all coming to us (Savon & Alex) like I’m a worker” So yea he definitely painted a narrative

[@Giddywiddy]

But in context it makes sense as he was referring to the content of the discussion not necessarily who started it

[@me7659]

Are ppl getting caught up on the working? Maybe Mal and Rory said something like “like we don’t get paid enough, we are working a lot” and Alex took it as them being “underpaid and overworked.” Technically maybe Mal and Rory didn’t use the word “overworked”. Bc I am pretty damn sure that Rory and Mal have expressed those feelings since leaving

[@nicolebabi1314]

@@me7659exactly! Semantics and context. Alex did not lie. They tried to say he did just bcuz they didn’t use those words. But the point is the took that they were getting alighted by Joe from the conversation. I mean the fact that they said Joe stole kinda supports that POV.

[@JRMR-td1tm]

Parks even said Alex and Savon did re-imagine the story and he was also upset about the narratives! And still this whole time Alex was acting like he never said it.. would’ve been nice for Savon to have played that specific portion of the pod back for Alex to allow him to speak to it

[@shemshap]

@@Giddywiddy it doesnt make sense in context, saying that mal and rory "coming to us" totally changes the narrative and is categorically false

[@andregiacomini4145]

Goddman man it's not that complicated. Alex said that Rory and Mal were the ones that came to them talkin bout being overworked and underpaied. And Rory and Mal responded that that was not true. Alex just need to say "yo my bad, it was not like that, what I wanted to say it was that we was feeling like that". That's it man.

[@voltear]

SERIOUSLY BRUUU. I think it’s just an hour for content. Why not take advantage of the extra views from last week? Its all COE smh

[@chrisotive]

indeed

[@Maybe2Smoove]

Thats all they had to say

[@oladeebiazazi4538]

It’s just sad tbh Alex lied and he couldn’t take accountability for it

[@Gooddaybadnews9000]

Thank you for the breakdown bro cus I’m lost af

[@sashachibanga2412]

Been listening to the POD since 2020 and I enjoy listening to you guys. My issue is you guys are responding to their reaction instead of what they were reacting to

[@Olmikelaaawry]

Bingo

[@EddiePReacts]

Its called deflection

[@dstewart33rd]

Exactly thats what all of them are doing. Everyone thats cool with Joe try to spin shit so they can stay in good graces cause he cuts the checks

[@pujapatel5326]

Damn the accountability is just non-existent

[@rafaeljones2039]

How not so? They said had a poor choice words, Savon talked too Rory told him he was going to clean it up and Rory still went on the pod a bashed him, where’s the accountability in that? Where’s the integrity in that?

[@shemshap]

@@rafaeljones2039poor choice of words is not the same as lying and painting a diff narrative. Rory never bashed him, he even reiterated that he had a good convo with savon and doesnt have beef with him, why are you lying. Mal was more bashing alex

[@rafaeljones2039]

@@shemshap what narrative did that paint? Saying “I talked to Savon he said he’ll clean it up but I don’t have faith in it” is that you respecting me as a man or a friend? Especially when i basically look up too u. They said they were dick riding they choose sides, their liars, how is that not bashing?? And if Savon has to pay for Alex choice of words why doesn’t Rory have to pay for mall’s ???

[@antoineLebrane]

@@shemshap man you seriously meat riding

[@sinamen516]

They get it from Joe 😂😂

[@1blackone]

41:40 They weren't disappointed in you. They are disappointed in SAVON. They don't THINK about you, Alex

[@chelsea____]

Exactly since when did anyone give af about screenman

[@bigbaggs1989]

Long story short…. They lied lol

[@DonNaReD2269]

WORD! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@DonNaReD2269]

@@bigbaggs1989 😂 thank you 😊

[@Giddywiddy]

Not really.

[@EastEZ82]

😂😂exactly

[@215proverb]

​@@Giddywiddyhow not really? They literally said something that didn't happen. That's a lie, is it not?

[@mralexander1981]

They did evvvvvvverything but address Alex’s comment and framing of the meeting that started the issue. Even before Rory and Mal responded I knew Alex’s “They felt over worked” and “why were they talking to us?” was a problem. This episode could have been 10 minutes instead of an hour.

[@diddy2612]

Everything but!

[@vinnizle]

Spin artistry. They didn't address what Alwx said and tried to keep the energy on Savon because they knew exposing Alex had no defense

[@rafaeljones2039]

They did you just too slow

[@diddy2612]

@@vinnizle exactly!

[@kamjohnson23]

They did correct what was said. I think their whole point is why did they get so offended at something that isnt a big deal. Rory and Mal were really mad that Joe came on the show and they wanted to find an excuse to insult them

[@billy2069]

Accountability zero from Alex. Grow up

[@SaFSparK3iMUp]

Mad 🧢! Accountability is damn near extinct nowadays…. Playing the victim is at an all time high….

[@zaydozier]

You do realize that you weren’t there right ? lol

[@SaFSparK3iMUp]

@zaydozier oops I forgot …. Were you present?

[@adolfocastillo6254]

@@zaydozier parks was and he said they were capping lol

[@casherj1]

The reason they called you liars is because of how this conversation again was handled. You said that Alex's words were taken out of context. Words were not taken out of context, Alex clearly stated "People were talking about how Rory and Mal were discussing work flow and being underpaid and overworked." So the flow of the conversation from that point carried the feeling that Rory and Mal were leading the sentiment of the meeting by feeling those things and were venting to you guys and the other people present. That narrative came off stronger because Alex kept stating "Im just an employee and I dont know whay they were saying that to me." Which again paints the picture Mal and Rory were pushing ALL 3 topics when maybe the reality is they were in agreement with workflow but the pay and overwork was Savon and other employees. The fact that you guys breezed over this reality again is exactly why it comes off like you did not want to full be transparent. I think you did a great job in the interview with Joe and offered great push back. It even seemed at the beginning of this episode that you were going to hold Alex accountable for "maybe accidentally" mispeaking. But if I had the animosity those guys have towards for what Joe did to them and you guys mischaracterized the conversation that led to it all I would be just as hot. Focusing all your attention on their reaction to your mistake was another mischaracterization and how it made you feel took away from any attempt at clearing things up and felt like you were letting your co host off.

[@sumthinncredible112]

Exactly!!!!

[@along58]

No. It's not about comprehension, it's about what you said. As a person who watched the episode, you all communicated this in a way that made it seem like rory and mal came to you. It wasn't about the meeting actually happening, it wasn't out of context. Alex said that Rory and Mal led the conversation. A simple "my bad" would've done it here guys.

[@TheEllisPrice]

They were afraid of Joe. They didn't wanna out right say THEY had a problem so they put it on R&M

[@alihamdon6644]

But why is Rory & Mals response to lie as well? Now we have to address it as well.

[@alihamdon6644]

Idk how you expect a “my bad” after calling me a ball licker & lying about the situation multiple times. Rory & especially Mal don’t look good in this. Mal grew up with Jay Z, probably stayed at the four seasons on weekends & proudly says he never worked a corporate job. To clown someone & call them a ball glazer for being thankful for giving them an opportunity is wild & just shows he’s never really worked hard for shit.

[@JodyG6DaPRInCe]

Thank U, now they sittin here looking like some Hoes, Straight up!! Man to man, U was wrong Own it.. 💙💪🖤🇵🇷🙏♿️

[@along58]

@@alihamdon6644I’m not sure what you’re saying in your message, can you clarify?

[@vinnizle]

Its not a genuine response if Alex dont take accountability. He started all this. His words was Rory and Mal came to them about being overworked and he thought they was crazy because hes just a worker and cant do anything. Hes the one that created the narrative. Savon let it run and thats the issue

[@Classikh]

Rory and Mal have no reason to lie. Savon and Alex do

[@cvo7617]

​@@Classikhget off your knees everyone is capable of lying

[@kingkt9112]

@@Classikhfor what reason? Savon was at the JBP a month ago chillin so clearly he still has a relationship with Joe he didn’t need anything from having him on the show, but Bare and minimum always like to play victim

[@stefmarqis9937]

Not it .these niggas corny

[@andregiacomini4145]

​@@kingkt9112 exactly, he still has a relationship with Joe, so he could lie to maintain a good relationship with the dude with the big podcast.

[@miked.336]

@8:50. See now you switching it. You literally said "why is Rory and Mal talking to me about this and not Joe" when Joe was there 💀

[@elijahbondo2315]

SaVon should be mad at Screenman because his ball glazing started this

[@IHOOP415]

😂😂😂

[@mikelovebx7216]

Screen man being offended for being called a liar after lying is nuts 😂 Man said nothing, didn’t address what they called him a liar for and took accountability for nothing. Props to Savon for taking accountability and hard carrying this response in a real way.

[@Maybe2Smoove]

Factssss

[@LaMar34_34]

The fact that you say screenman says a lot

[@TheEllisPrice]

​@@LaMar34_34That's what they called him for years! Lol

[@diddy2612]

@@TheEllisPriceliterally what they called him lol

[@nosenselove]

@@diddy2612but you on his channel, so respectfully its Alex, not screenman

[@joeamado2693]

Bro this is wild. This is an clear example of social media creating ego delusions. They can’t even see how they were wrong

[@JodyG6DaPRInCe]

Correct, & now they just sound like sum Hoes.. 💙💪🖤🇵🇷🙏♿️

[@alihamdon6644]

They said multiple times it could’ve been done better. They take responsibility in the video multiple times. Rory & Mal are not excused for that bullshit. Im done with their pod after this

[@joeamado2693]

@@alihamdon6644 that’s not how you take accountability but to each it’s own. Also you sound emotional for being done with something off just feelings. You should go off if you like it or not. 😂

[@alihamdon6644]

@@joeamado2693 how is that not taking responsibly? Saying that you made mistakes, could’ve done things better is taking accountability. Did you want an apology? Because you are tripping if you believe I’m giving anybody who calls me a ball glazer an apology after that. Speaking for ego & delusion. Mal clowning Sayvon & calling him a ball licker for thanking someone for giving him the opportunity to make himself a life just speaks to his ego & delusion. What’s staying at the four seasons & meeting Charles Barkley when you literally grew up with Jay Z & proudly state that you have never & will never work a corporate job. That’s the delusion & ego of someone who has probably never actually worked a real job a day in his life & never felt the need to be thankful for anything. This ain’t feelings. They just not good people & I don’t respect them.

[@03bbay]

Saying someone isn’t a good person and only knowing them from a podcast is insane 😂😂🤦🏾

[@sjordan1195]

You wouldn’t have to be here if Alex didn’t reimagine a conversation

[@RHYSPAPI]

They wouldn’t be here if Mal wasn’t in his feelings..

[@Classikh]

@@RHYSPAPI ...for being lied on

[@antoineLebrane]

@@Classikhget off mal nutz that nigga didnt get lied on

[@mitchy2311]

​@@Classikhbut he wasn't. He did indeed have a conversation with those guys about those things.... niggas playing semantics and getting in they feelings like a h0e

[@jdvh__94]

@@Classikhit’s been over 2 years he should stop crying every time the topic comes up. He’s the only one in his feelings still

[@shenellrichardson4936]

Im missing the accountability.

[@BrotherNero777]

Also missing the accounting...

[@mitchy2311]

​@@BrotherNero777they aint finna sue so you might as well put that angle to bed

[@shenellrichardson4936]

@@BrotherNero777 that too 😂 apparently so was see The thing is

[@jusjus17]

Damn so yall did kind of lie yall made it seem like they came to yall with grievances about work

[@ownthispwn]

Mal is right. people do anything when the camera turn on and they tryna get views. alex looking funny in the light

[@waynesmiley2207]

The older I get, the more I realize that the overwhelming majority of problems stem from the lack of clear communication. I enjoy watching all three pods and want everyone to continue progressing.

[@vinnizle]

There's a difference between lack of clear communication and someone outwardly lying to paint a narrative and getvon someone's good side. Not only did Alex say Rory and Mal came to them about being overworked and underpaid, he also doubled down on it by saying how crazy he thought it was for them to do that because of their relative positions. He reiterated and cleared up his point so there would be no confusion.

[@antoineLebrane]

@@vinnizle man get off rory and mals sack

[@williamb9631]

Joe show seems forced and this is my second time watching any other savon content.

[@Ransom1867]

100% agree.

[@hudaifah-nn4re]

@@antoineLebranehe ain't on they sack he simply telling the truth

[@vinnizle]

Its a wrap, Parks already called them liars and said Rory and Mal had every right to be mad about what was said.

[@SoulVernacular23]

When was this

[@teddyhart2913]

Wen and where did parks say this

[@OriginalBoondocksXVIII]

​@@SoulVernacular23 Today's episode of Budden's podcast.

[@SoulVernacular23]

@@OriginalBoondocksXVIII oh damn

[@tcincali9642]

He said it was 3 years ago and who gives a fuck. He also said Savon and Alex reimagined the story and key details were left out

[@irvingtonunitedcorporation8910]

Alex @8:50: "I don't think they necessarily came to me." Bro, but that is what you said which created the issue. You could've easily stated now that I lied about that and I'm sorry.

[@jaealxndr]

this is not unfortunate.. there is a reason yall put a patreon episode on here for everyone itll be your highest viewed solo video lmaoo

[@TaataGeo]

Clicks= 💰💰💰

[@jaealxndr]

@@TaataGeo that’s my point, I don’t blame them lol

[@BelovedBone]

As they should!

[@Kinghulio2333]

Weak

[@nogertry8381]

yet rory and mal are't more talented than them facts

[@Ben-Reid]

Alex showed his true colours with this one. Damn shame. SaVon isn't completely blameless but still

[@teychaplin]

You can't skew the points and then expect to avoid getting pushback! And that point being - 'they came to us complaining being overworked and underpaid'. 'I felt, why are they talking to me about it?'. R&M did not start the conversation, y'all did. The whole conversation hinged on that point that they were stirring issues. This is basic comprehension. Also, why not play Alex's soundbite? Rory said he didn't have much faith that you would clear it up, and HE WAS RIGHT lol. You came on here and sidestepped, sharing misleading information and played victim. Respect to all the pods. But take some responsibility.

[@brooksdb36]

For the record Parks said Alex lied about Mal saying something to them about him having an issue. Nothing else.

[@SJ-tx5go]

Parks is a snake. That's the least he could do since he started the whole "secret meeting " narrative. He wanted to move when it was mentioned in today's JBP episode. I don't trust Parks or Ian. Two White boys who will separate Joe from his Black friends to make sure their position and bag is secure

[@lamontellis8430]

Ahhh yal niggas went back n posted the whole shit lol. I was watching the other one and shit disappeared mid episode 😅

[@bigbaggs1989]

I thought I was tripping lol 😂

[@northrndisordr9219]

You can tell these guys learned from Joe. Everyone playing victim …. The fans would appreciate y’all a lot more if you just said , “ we should’ve phrased that differently, or I shouldn’t have said that , it was a mistake,” but you won’t . And I will say , maybe mal not as much , but Rory has always been self aware and acknowledging of his mistakes, and has apologized when he’s outta line . And no one does that in the pod world

[@truthbetold4815]

Parks knows 😂😂😂😂 Parks said yall lied 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kingghx5t74]

I think you guys blew it. Y’all will read the comments and I’m sure it’s gonna reflect.

[@destinee8791]

Facts 😂

[@chelsea____]

Don’t say blew, they’ll think someone is inviting them to genitalia 😂

[@EastEZ82]

🎯

[@FleeGunnaRiich]

No y’all are just R&M d riders

[@chelsea____]

@@FleeGunnaRiich SMD 😂

[@sullystpatrick]

Joe made them listenable for the time they were on his podcast and now they’re the two most boring voices with a microphone

[@dantemoore97]

I’m 6 minutes in and the conversation is already different from when Joe was there lol

[@yungotcha]

its not about it being salacious its about you saying something that wasn't said ALEX lol even parks said on joes pod that yall lied about stuff .. just say yalll made a mistake and continued on

[@acrnm]

@ 11:35 - I think the point is that Rory and Mal were not complaining, you presented it to Joe in that context, you both did make seem like they were salty and complaining about the workflow.

[@OriginalBoondocksXVIII]

Exactly. Alex is being obtuse. Budden has managed to make a narrative stick that Rory and Mal are lazy and ungrateful and were essentially dead weight. "Bare and Minimum." So his original framing that they came to the staff with complaints of being overworked and underpaid BEHIND BUDDEN'S BACK makes them look a way.

[@DonNaReD2269]

@@OriginalBoondocksXVIIIthank you! You seem the be the only one who gets it! That’s why Rory and Mal had that energy on the Patreon episode. And who wouldn’t if mf’s are contributing to a false narrative about them? Smh

[@victorakioyame1143]

This dude Alex doesn’t seem to understand what Mal was upset about. Mal isn’t saying that the conversation didn’t take place, but he’s saying the framing Alex gave of R&M approaching you guys didn’t happen.

[@ownthispwn]

he just tryna save face. Alex looking goofy asl

[@saucyfaces]

Exactly! Like...why is this so complicated? 🤦🏽‍♀ It's so hard to admit you fucked up or mispoke?

[@teamgarza261]

He literally stated that they didn’t approach the multiple time in this pod and the Joe pod that they were just there and started talking about work nobody approached anyone…you don’t listen or what??

[@knot3427]

He knows he just dont wanna take accountability for it so let me slick argue something mal isnt even arguing about😅

[@michaell872]

​@teamgarza261 no they literally said everyone was just chillin and waiting for Uber when rory and Mal brought it up.

[@patie7367]

Savon taps dance is crazy!! In front of Joe he used the umbrella 'production felt like...' Now he says "I". He straight up p*ssied around infront of Joe

[@EastEZ82]

Yup and ball glazed

[@paulpepala6573]

This just proves that Rory and Mal were right. Savon tried…but you gentlemen just danced around for over an hour. @Alex, take accountability bro. And @Savon, hold your man accountable.

[@chisimpson3376]

I can’t lie this was nasty work mannn…

[@untuchablemizz1]

Damn, i came here for a response and got a dance competition... completely danced around "rory and mal came to us about being overworked and underpaid"... that single sentence creates many images of what happened and if thats not the way it went, they have every right to feel slighted.

[@ABtheHERO]

That single sentence was never said. That’s cap. He said overworked but never underpaid.

[@RM-xp8kj]

@@ABtheHEROeven if it’s just being overworked, R&M never said that in general. They came to R&M about being overworked n underpaid, not the other way around.

[@mitchy2311]

​@RM-xp8kj no one came to anyone. The convo took place while at parks basement. Rnm are clearly lying about that.

[@FleeGunnaRiich]

⁠@@RM-xp8kjno one came to anyone. The pod ended Joe left and they all were still there at parks house and just started talking about things. You’re just saying anything.

[@antoineLebrane]

bro yall niggas be meat huggin the hell out rory and mal

[@andremarable]

Never saw Alex flustered and tap dancing like this. THIS IS WILD 😂😂😂😂😂 damnnn

[@khirycollins1335]

Parks said y’all lied and it’s crazy y’all made this knowing y’all lied is nuts. Savon really trying to be Joe and spin shit is wild

[@ifyouweremeforreal]

Savon looks like he's disappointed in Alex lmfao!!

[@sidnickels]

Still can’t understand why Savon didn’t tell screen man to clean that ishhhhhhh up.

[@mooodybluez]

Alex looks crazy lmao. Parks damn near called y’all liars “ reimagined”. Wild part about all of this is. Rory and Mal have told the exact same story every time. All other parties involved have changed their stories every single time.

[@vfs3859]

Screen man 😂😂😂

[@tyllerblackburn1346]

Y’all coming in a little hot just to say y’all were wrong. Y’all maintain that no lies were told but as you recount and clarify what y’all meant, it isn’t matching what y’all said when joe was in front of you. Ex: the statement “being overworked was a big theme of the convo” is not the same thing as “Rory and mal came to us about the workflow and being over worked and underpaid………idk why they came to me with it I’m just a worker”. The first statement says this was the topic of a convo we were all a part of, and the other says these were concerns they bought to me. And y’all know that’s not the same thing so just say my bad and move on.

[@antoineLebrane]

bro did you not hear the man play the part where he said HEEEEE was overworked what are you talkin about 😂😂😂 boy yall niggas love to d ride rory and mal

[@wall91nutz]

Even Parks said y’all were lying lol

[@brockontop]

Just apologize Screenman!

[@ricardonieves2543]

Man parks snitching to Joe is the catalyst for all this it doesn’t matter his intent when you fire a gun to kill someone and it hits the wrong person first you still caught 2 bodies with the intent of catching 1 if parks just stfu and rolled with the other WORKERS instead of snitching to the boss for whatever reason I think shit doesn’t turn out like this

[@kmdaye04]

Y’all wasted an hour not taking accountability …. You guys are good dudes but this is nasty.

[@KanyeReborn]

You lied and Parks said it too, this whole long drawn out explanation could’ve been resolved with simply “I lied, I’m sorry”

[@adolfocastillo6254]

Alex was that little lap dog who got happy his owner came home when Joe was on

[@ownthispwn]

21:06 alex lying like hell lmao..ur a podcaster... who as a podcaster doesnt want to go viral and get engagement/views/subscriptions? Dude just hop on the mic and start saying shit. They shouldve left it at the interview w/ Joe because they looking worse with this.

[@saucyfaces]

This is ridiculous. Comprehension isn't the issue here. They way YOU communicated what happened, is exactly what you said. Say 'my bad' and let's keep it moving. 🤦🏽‍♀ Yall being offended about what YALL said about them is mind boggling to me. No way you could've anticipated a different response from them. If last week "we werent as clear"...why would yall be shocked by the responses this week?

[@Ace_4k]

Both sides are arguing semantics. Ultimately, concerns were shared about not being compensated for specific work efforts. Overworked may not have been the proper description but Mal is trying to pretend as though he does not understand the essence behind Alex's statement.

[@TMarieAus24]

⁠@@Ace_4k i totally agree. Mal stated they wanted to see the accounting because he felt like money was owed to him. So to me he was underpaid from his perspective.

[@oladeebiazazi4538]

Exactly, we understood what they said the issue is that according to Rory and Mal it never happened.

[@rafaeljones2039]

How is it not?? It’s mind boggling to me that niggas looked at nigga saying y’all felt over worked as disrespectful. Rather if the doorman said it, a meeting was had and it was said. You a person that was there should be able to comprehend better what I’m saying. That statement ain’t enough for u to call me a dick rider and everything else especially when you got my number, I didn’t disrespect you and the majority of the conversation I big you up, for you to take one clip and run with it says you already didn’t like me

[@rafaeljones2039]

Savon looked really hurt

[@odu2014]

Even Parks said on the JBP today that y’all misrepresented how that conversation went down.

[@darnelldarden9429]

I can’t believe we been listening to everyone talk about this for 3 years

[@oladeebiazazi4538]

Yea you’re right it’s about to be 3 years that’s crazy

[@jenniferspencerrichards2449]

Feeling are still running high

[@kmdaye04]

2 1/2

[@Ben-Reid]

lmao thats how you know that trio of Joe/Rory/Mal was fire. Glad both sides have found their groove w a new team but those pods were classic

[@civilenggggg]

Nah fr, but that just shows how good the original show was. Neither of them can recreate that magic

[@King_Mac80]

Fact that both of y'all screwed up so bad that even Parks whose president of Joe Budden fan club had to say y'all lied is CRAZY. Also don't title it as "Misplaced energy" when y'all the reason for this latest round of discourse.

[@denisetrice5604]

I have watched NTK podcast for a while but this is so disheartening. Alex really started this whole thing and Savon not holding Alex accountable is sickening. I'm done with this whole gaslighting crap. Guys please di better.

[@CapitalP177]

You have literally stated what Rory and Mal meant. It's crazy that Savon started that he paid to get the full grasp of what was said and comprehend everything, but failed to comprehend what you just said.

[@sashachibanga2412]

Well said!

[@antoineLebrane]

it always gotta be someone in the comments to hold rory and mals nuts smh

[@jaypower]

Couldn’t have said it better

[@loki350]

​@@antoineLebrane I've been scrolling through, and this is the second time I've seen you talking about meat holding. You should relax

[@Mukka108]

Alex didn't speak on nothing 😂

[@HighwayRobbery]

Yall should’ve waited till after parks responded to respond he already said they never said half the shit yall said if any of it 😂😂😂😂

[@rodericktutt6290]

Oh Alex Vicious wit it😂😂😂😂

[@BigB.J]

They snaked Rory and Mal. Trashed Joe then caused a riff between the Host and Co-hosts'

[@Ibeenflew]

Y'all gon have to try this again.

[@aamirstrother1401]

Im 20 mins in on this video and they have yet to address who brought up the convo, and Alex took back his words without an apology. I fw you guys, but this was a brick

[@lifestylemood]

25:17 Mals gripe which he said several times .. He has NEVER went to anyone & said he felt overworked & underpaid. YOU Alex .. Had said both bare & minimum went to YALL to complain . Lying on recorded podcasts is absolutely nasty work

[@EastEZ82]

Definitely ball glazing. Lmaooooooo I thought I was trippin but …. A fact. 😂😂😂😂truth hurts. Now let me check out that RnM pod.

[@ayabongadayile2234]

So y'all just proved to anyone with common sense that you guys lied and twisted the events of that "secret meeting" because you were afraid of being honest with Joe about how y'all really felt. This just brings me back to when Mal just stared at the camera and said "Parks" repeatedly, seems like Parks really knows.

[@cwmedia2603]

Y’all took 35 min to give a bogus apology. That’s absolutely crazy.

[@billy2069]

Maturity is coming on here and saying you had a poor choice of words and this is what you meant. Maturity is getting on the phone and speaking to Mal about his ball glazing comment. The lesson is your choice of words and context matters. This is a battle of public opinion maturity is realizing your walking on a thin line and understanding you have to be sensitive to both sides.

[@sirbronson252]

Heres the real question parks agreed that savon and alex lied. Are they going to respond to parks?

[@chelsea____]

That part!!

[@SupremeDynastyTV]

“Savon and Alex from the Need to Know Podcast FIRES back at the mixy boys” - Danny from the stop voice

[@youngblacklife9419]

i can hear it now

[@shaudajohnson4356]

😂😂

[@cookiemonster64]

The joe Budden recap guy lol

[@georgebrobbey6882]

The response here is definitely lacking accountability and being very obtuse at the same time. Savon and Alex definitely lied and didn’t tell the story in its entirety. Parks even called it out. Parks said it on the JBP (episode 673 - ‘55m:32sec’ mark) for anyone who wants to catch it. Y’all ain’t slick. Alex is trying to be VERY slick. PARKS: “Joe went up there with Savon and mistold the story. I understand the other gentlemen’s (Rory and Mal) reason for frustration with that…I was ALSO UPSET ON HOW THIS WAS REITERATED, RETOLD. They left out some key details…. They (R&M) have a right to be mad at that”.

[@Olmikelaaawry]

Bars

[@mr_nelz]

Good podcast guys. Salute to you all. Alex didn’t really understand that his comments triggered things. He basically made it look like it was R&M that came to him. Savon didn’t do good job to correct Alex at any point.

[@alihamdon6644]

Yeah you can very clearly tell it wasn’t a purposeful lie like “let’s put this all on Rory & Mal” & more of a misspeak that made it sound that way

[@jamilk1079]

yeah the thing is you have to actually say you misspoke. don’t go around saying niggas can’t comprehend you and it was taken out of context when you just said some shit that wasn’t true. Parks been on joes side for all of this and even he said he gets why R&M were pissed bc that story was told incorrectly. they gotta take accountability rather than just acting like niggas are too dumb to understand what they said

[@vinnizle]

​@@alihamdon6644it was for sure a purposeful lie because he doubled down on it and said he thought they was crazy for bringing it to them. He just wanted to get a Joe's good side so bad he threw his morals and integrity out the window. Rewatch that whole segment. Alex was hard pushing words and sentiments that came from Rory and Mal

[@mitchy2311]

​@@vinnizleso you honestly believe rory and mal said nothing in that conversation? You think it was only the production crew venting? Use your brain... they was all kicking it speaking they mind...

[@antoineLebrane]

@@vinnizle you meat huggin rory and mal

[@ilovemakeupppp]

alex is corny

[@ED1989_]

On today's pod Parks literally said y'all niggas lied about what happened and he understood why R&M was upset lol so you tryna reference the Parks Knows episode is comedy 😭😭😭

[@CapitalP177]

I think alex is reaching with saying that rory is playing with his name by calling him screenman. That was his nickname. People call people by their nickname. Mal isn't Mals real name. You're not playing Mal by calling him that.

[@LonnellHill]

Alex was very corny for that joe episode, 1 for being a yes man to joe the whole pod and 2 for saying things to joe I know for a fact he didn’t say to Rory and mal face nor did some of the shit he was putting on them didn’t make sense 🥴

[@AliFrankTheTank]

“Screen man” was crazy, Parks said y’all lied though so this situation epic 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@onetwo-dr8hl]

Joe still signs his checks, we all know Parks is MVP ball glazer so that’s not saying much

[@nia4842]

​@onetwo-dr8hl Parks could've said they were right, and even he said they reimagined the story and he understands why Rory and Mal are upset.

[@AvonAli]

It would be so much easier if everyone sat in the same room and talked it out. It would be a must watch Pod. Joe, Mal, Rory, Parks, and you two.

[@justadrum]

Not everything is content

[@jenniferspencerrichards2449]

A fight would break out

[@eb2604]

@@justadrumunfortunately that’s not the case anymore in this Truman Show world

[@xenobleu]

The Endgame of the PodWars😂

[@booziebadazz1692]

⁠@@xenobleulol the endgame would have drake marissa and slaughterhouse coming out of portals, wu tang clan Stephen A his dad safaree Alex Jones 💀💀💀

[@diddy2612]

He wants respect to call his name but he flat out lied on them is hilarious

[@NineEight_Nine]

yaahhhhhhh rory and mal tellin the troof 😂

[@JerzyBoy973]

I would’ve just made a 2 line statement in the regular pod and kept it moving. This topic doesn’t need to be fed anymore energy.

[@TaataGeo]

They need clicks = money

[@JerzyBoy973]

@@TaataGeour right.

[@BrotherNero777]

Content over eveerything

[@jabrilmuhammad8592]

They don’t watch

[@iRas479]

An honest man would start the conversation with what he did, not what R&M did. Who had something to get of the chest ? Alex is leading 😂😂 u a liar my guy

[@Loverboy77777]

Short Summary: - They had an "Around the water cooler employee talk" amongst each other discussing the changes in workload. - Mal and Rory never said they were overworked or underpaid. They were just discussing their confusion about the change in workflow and schedule because Patreon was introduced so they were doing more episodes per week. - Savon was the one that felt overworked and underpaid like most employees do. - Alex was thinking why Mal and Rory were mentioning their questions/confusion to him because that was "out of his tax bracket" so to speak not because Mal and Rory came to him to vent. It was just an organic discussion. - Joe (and I assume Ian as well) was the only one that really knew what was going on with the change in workflow. - Savon and Alex felt that the disrespect from Mal was unwarranted.

[@ProperP318]

Parks said y’all boys lying too 😂😂. Just saying 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@deewoodz2828]

Alex isn’t understanding that he made it seem like THEY (R&M) said that they were overworked and underpaid. The theme of the meeting can be being overworked/underpaid but it doesn’t mean that THEY (R&M) were the ppl to say it. SaVon is right that two things can be true. There was a convo but they didn’t say what you said that they said. It’s very simple.

[@robertphillips4336]

Savon mustve just learned the words "comprehension and duality" lol.

[@JennHeartsYou92]

Even Parks said the meeting was misrepresented by y’all 😕 I like y’all tho but when both sides say that there might be some truth. Not only this but I’d see it as a slap in the face for the conversation to be postured that way. For the people who brought this climactic moment to you and ultimately fizzled over, to sit there and insinuate that yall were “just part” of the convo. The convo came from the crew it seems from multiple accounts of the history on this.

[@anthonyasiimwe24]

Did you delete the clip?

[@TheDundeal]

Definitely!! Original Shit glitched out like 45 minutes in.... they edited sumn out lol

[@Mukka108]

Funny how they said that rory n mal put their shut behind a pay wall and did the same😂

[@Charger215onyx]

@@Mukka108how is it behind a paywall if we’re commenting on it right now? They just uploaded the full thing

[@Mukka108]

@@Charger215onyx it was before

[@Charger215onyx]

@@Mukka108 They deleted the “clip” and uploaded the full pod. It was behind a paywall for a few minutes tops.

[@jace3450]

This was actually hard to watch… barely any accountability.

[@dwilliams671]

I fuck with y’all podcast but y’all just stirred this shit back up. At the 8:04 mark we here the exact issue. It comes across like you were saying that Rory and Mal said they were “discussing the workflow…feeling overworked and underpaid”. You may have said other things later but the tape is the tape and you just replayed it smh. Y’all made it sound like they brought this up to you and that’s the disconnect. They’re saying that’s the lie and I can see why they took it that way. Now all the extra personal shots Mal was taking I don’t agree with but I can see what he was upset.

[@dwilliams671]

* we hear

[@Justice.I]

THANK YOU ! Alex is alluding to Rory and Mal have the issue. That is a lie

[@JasperWalker]

This could have been a tweet.

[@fishoutofwaterseries1424]

A hour long conversation when Alex just could have said I apologize for saying the wrong thing Mal was right 🤷🏿‍♂️ y'all just want content

[@SupremeDynastyTV]

Let’s see how Alex handles this LOL

[@Mukka108]

I love Alex but dude danced around the topic😂

[@shenellrichardson4936]

😂😂 not well

[@vinnizle]

Neo from the Matrix

[@Izzyduzitt]

Let’s not do this fellas. Instead of running with this narrative, Alex could have retracted and apologized for putting the overworked/underpaid on R&M’s jackets. It’s really that simple. They went on record the last JBP podcast they ever did that they never felt that way. Let’s do a better job next time. Hopefully we can still see a WYNTK/R&M crossover sometime in the future when tensions have died down

[@jazzo597]

TO ME PERSONALLY…… R&M need this type mess to stay afloat…. Smh I tried to listen to their podcast but cannot get thru a whole episode til this day…

[@Lopez732]

How Savon doesn’t remember or doesn’t want to address what Alex said is crazy. You might of not said it, doesn’t mean it wasn’t said on the pod.

[@bcsmith215]

Didn’t he play the clip?

[@shaaimsmith4804]

Yo the matrix is real lmao yal said Rory and mal started the conversation 😂😂 they didn’t address anything

[@cboys4eva]

It seems like where things went left is that the narrative in the streets is that Rory & Mak LED the charge on the "overworked and underpaid" angle when it seems like all of y'all were just talking about it that day. Joe has said, it's some things he could of done better and I think this is one of them. None of y'all knew what the plan was ,especially with the extra Patreon shows added to the mix. Then it just blew up from there. The vibe changed, R & M wanna see accounting, words back and forth etc. I hope y'all stay cool, I listen to all three pods and success to all you dudes

[@domino8995]

And from watching the whole episode I don’t understand how anyone can take it out of context. It seems like being overworked and underpaid was a speaking point in the whole conversation. I don’t think Alex went into the interview saying “ima make a narrative about Rory and Mal”. The episode didn’t have any of that energy whatsoever

[@cboys4eva]

@@domino8995 Mal is really hot at Joe, you can tell. Savon n Alex caught some shots unfortunately

[@vinnizle]

​@@domino8995That was 100% Alex's energy. He even doubled down and was saying how crazy he thought they were and asking why they were coming to him with that. Parks even said they were lying and Rory and Mal had all rights to br mad at the way it was spun

[@jessicadean5654]

@@vinnizlechanging narratives, Parks did not say they were lying. He said THE APPROACH DIDNT TAKE PLACE.

[@nia4842]

​@jessicadean5654 Obtuse. If they're saying the approach did happen and Parks is saying that didn't happen...

[@unlimihub254]

Alex stop dancing