Why Does Ishod Wair Skate A Symmetrical Board??

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Why Does Ishod Wair Skate A Symmetrical Board??
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[@StoneyBaloneyUSA]

Symmetrical decks are the future. Love em.

[@trupiil]

there is like three models out there only. The element siamese 8.5 and 8.25, the Ishod Real and the krooked, which is said to be the real shape - and Neen Baker double nose. So effectively two twin tail (even though Ishod shape is almost between nose and tail from length) and a twin nose. The brands are sleeping on this so hard. I for my part am looking for a twin tail 8.38 or 8.25 with wheelbase no longer than 14.25 but the market on this is nonexistant. Had both elements. The 8.25 lacks concave over the width and the 8.5 has a wheelbase a bit too long with 14.5. Real Ishod has quite long tails and that's it. How can we get the brands to start offering some variety for twin tails? Or do you know more models? I heard Berger and Appleyard had twin models at some point but nowhere to be seen.

[@chance_hollow]

I've come to the conclusion I want to do every trick off of my tail so sign me up

[@NinoBone]

Always wanted to set up one but never pulled the trigger

[@rocketgrunt5252]

They've been around forever and they are the best options

[@StoneyBaloneyUSA]

Yeah as long as the popsicle has existed some have been symmetrical, but now it's time for them to be popular and easy to find.

[@xDEADPOOL24x]

Lmaooo the mic set up in front of the screen killed me

[@ariekanibalie]

Haha, I literally thought I couldn't skate anymore just recently, trying to break in a new pair of shoes. It can take me a sesh or two to get used to a new pair, but these ones had my kickflips flying all over the place while seemingly absorbing 70% of my pop. A week later my confidence on my board was pretty much nil, then I put on my old shoes once and turned out to still be able to skate fine, so threw out the new shoes and got another pair of the ones I had. Bottom line: it's never you and always your gear.

[@bennbo]

hahaha so good

[@SpaceCadetLaC]

Dude this sounds crazy but hear me out. When you get that new pair of kicks pop them in the microwave and bend them up while they are hot then put thwm on your feet amd go skate. Boom those shoes will be broken in after 1 sesh.

[@funkydankspliff]

@@SpaceCadetLaC how long in the microwave?

[@holdenwilky4922]

@@SpaceCadetLaC no, this sounds like it would work, fucking genius!

[@777Bible]

I love my 8.5” Ishod Cat Scratch: Twin-Tail board. I get to razor tail both sides evenly and never care which side I hop on cause it’s always gonna be the tail. I liked it so much that I bought 4 of them to store away until it’s time to set up a new one.

[@thesamminator1]

Symmetrical boards should be the standard!!

[@camron8418]

fr

[@jouhajohnny]

Fr they are so hard to find 😩

[@Notmatb]

Facts. They’re becoming more common tho like my local skate shop has atleast like 5 or 6 but when in 2020 they would only have 1 or less and they have hella decks

[@yoitsme9353]

NAH IM USED TO POPSICLE

[@johnnyc.3261]

I just put on one of his symmetrical boards and I love it. I’ve never super benefited from the standard board with a different nose. Super good pop but maybe because I haven’t put a new deck on in 3 months. I hope Ishod is making that Nyjah type skate money, he’s really sick even if he’s rocking jean shorts.

[@widowmakeruk1]

Jean shorts are tight, but you can't wear em every day and expect them to hold up, you gotta take em off son

[@BG-fh5me]

Jean shorts are coming back

[@photosynthesis69]

He has a Tesla so he must be doing alright

[@eppyz]

Ishod is an AMAZING Skateboarder. I mean, this guy is OFF the HOOK talented. One of my favorites. 👍👍

[@tangiers365]

Every comment on any clip of any rider ever

[@BOYHAWK]

Me too man

[@BOYHAWK]

shano see but if everyone has a favorite skater why the fuck wouldn’t they say things like this about them? What’s wrong with supporting your favorite skater?

[@Skarhodges]

@@tangiers365 it’s called fans

[@trupiil]

Can the brands start noticing symmetrical boards are in demand. We have two twin tail shapes out there and one twin nose. Not enough at all. Get those shapes out and people will skate it. With switch skating getting closer to the level of regular execution, symmetrical shapes best support switch learning. Get it on already, don't sleep on this.

[@fernandoreyes680]

Word

[@skankwave5245]

What brand makes the double nose?

[@fernandoreyes680]

@@skankwave5245 Deathwish

[@marconopolo5723]

Skankwave I skate Deathwish for a symmetrical shape. I hate big nose-small tail because I end up just using the nose all the time for every trick.

[@_Maxten]

I like twin noses better. Twin tails feel like you have a small nose but twinnoses you’ll forget the tail is a nose. Also bigger tails = better manuals. One thing i dont like is you cant have cool grip bc the graphic will be upside down a lot lol

[@kolabboy]

I took my trucks apart once and forgot to put pivot cups in when I put them together. For 2 weeks, I thought I’d forgot how to skate too. I was falling off on kick turns! 🤣 Finally realised and was so relieved I wasn’t totally shit.

[@furleysbrain]

Thank god for Ishod. Been skating for 15 years and ALL I WANTED was symmetrical boards. Why the f do I need a bigger nose?

[@kevinp1046]

Yeah man, I've never understood! The best I've gotten was "it helps you catch your ollies & flatten them better," but that doesn't explain why they're BIGGER THAN THE TAIL.

[@Jhizzle473]

Said the same thing dude

[@jcsk8]

Because when you thrash your tail first you gonna need another deck, and industry wants that.

[@furleysbrain]

@@jcsk8 Wow never thought of that actually. Good point

[@Daggermouth8k]

@@kevinp1046 the explanation is when you flick, the longer length of the nose allows you have more surface area to be able to manipulate how the board will flip, level out, etc. the less surface area you have, your flick will be quicker because of how much less your foot needs to travel, but would also require a more precise flick due to the shorter distance the flick needs to be. bigger noses require more effort, but ultimately can yield you a more desired type of flick because the larger size of the nose lets you have more time to adjust. also, larger noses can make your tricks higher due to the longer flick. furthermore, your weaker foot would be towards the front by the nose. so on tricks like nose slides, the traditional larger sized nose could help you balance easier and drag your toe/heel less.

[@vicwillis4295]

I switched to Ishod's deck last month. I really like the symmetry because the board wears out slower since I'm not favoring my tail. Btw your "nose" won't feel too short.

[@noahbond54]

Does anyone else think being a rider for REAL and seeing that symmetrical, oval graphic on the bottom all the time had a contribution to wanting a symmetrical, oval board all together?

[@jackxavier3915]

exactly what i was thinking.

[@rustyshackleford58008]

I rode twin tail 8.0" Powell blanks #111 in the 90s & 2000s. I miss those things

[@BryanLovellsChannel]

As a kid I never even noticed or cared that skateboards weren’t symmetrical it was use whatever side was the best of course we’d skate decks till they were flat so...🤷🏻‍♂️

[@DJDROCK96]

Tom Asta actually had a symmetrical board on Mystery!

[@hksolventless9260]

Been skating the neen twin nose since they came out and honestly it's pretty God damn liberating to never have to think about which way the deck is facing. And it kinda eliminates that voice in your head that tells you "can't" or "can only" do something off the nose or tail. It's hard to go back to normal boards though, when everything locked down I copped as many as I could just in case, lol

[@Skankhunt-hl9zj]

Board madness is real. I took a break from skating and lost 160 pounds I went up a size to a 8.38 thinking it would be way better but I skated horribly I thought I was trash it would take me like 5 try’s to kick flip and lost everything but I went to a 8.125 with low trucks and smaller wheels and I’m like a god compared to what I was now I’m Nollie treflipping and doing full cab flips again and it feels crazy and I’m extremely consistent I can fully grab my tricks. If you suck and don’t know why start changing your board parts around.

[@mikecart2494]

Been skating symmetrical boards since I bought my second deck. Used to have a flip deck and hated the asymmetrical design, so my next deck was symmetrical and I never looked back. It only ever made sense for the board to be symmetrical, and it never felt weird to me either.

[@benjamin5026]

Symmetrical is the way to go, ever since a lil kid i always favored them synced up.

[@Fatdill10]

Makes skateboarding so simple don’t have to worry bout front and back when your doing lines or switching to a new board

[@58ksodnumyar]

For years I would buy a board and cut some of the nose off with a jigsaw and sand it down to make it as symmetrical as I can. When Real released the Ishod Wair boards I’ve been riding em ever since, I’m on my 8-9th Cat Scratch board. Props to Real Skateboards!!!

[@Bruhvant]

On my 2nd ishod deck. These things are rad!! Makes the board last longer too since you don’t have to worry about picking the correct end to ride on.

[@ashmyblunt]

I get the same thing too, it’s happened to me a few times where for like a month I just can’t skate. I’ll miss all my go to tricks that I can always do

[@skankwave5245]

Bushings ofc but nobody talk about pivot cups. Hell there are skaters who don't even know what they are. If you skate the same trucks for 2-3 years the pivot cups are usually worn out and it messes with the overall stability like crazy. Bombing hills or going fast in general becomes dangerous

[@theForrestGalantey]

Skated from 2004 till 2012 and I always wanted one but never minded a regular board. My tail was the slighty smaller side and loved popping sw on the higher end.

[@harrytuttle564]

Once you go symmetrical you never go back.

[@hksolventless9260]

Seriously though, lol. I panicked when everything locked down and ordered a half dozen of the neen inner demons.

[@9eyeh8chu9]

We were doing this all the way back since the late 90’s. They didn’t make anything truly symmetrical at that time but there were things that were close. A short lived board company called Renaissance is one that comes to mind. Had a Salman Agah Firm deck was another one. In other words this isn’t a new idea kids, good to see it get some exposure finally though.

[@freehammerskateboarding488]

I love this guy, so funny. Just a great personality and awesome skater.

[@NIALLY92]

Would love to try a symmetrical board

[@banksyofword]

5:49 Ishod lookin like the spitfire logo

[@Dontbustthecrust]

I had the same exact thing happen to me one summer with blown out bushings. Like ishod said I thought I couldn't skate anymore.

[@vidhayreddy4644]

The thumbnail with the silly geometric pattern is so funny

[@ksrhys-]

I thought the 'ishod was convinced he cant skate anymore' area of things was way more interesting than the symmetrical board stuff. Symmetrical boards just seem like the obvious conclusion. I dont know why all of my boards forever havent been trying to be symmetrical. I mean, dating back to fish boards at least. There's literally half as many variables to be concerned with in your board shape. Less variables = more consistent (if you got used to it, like a regular board). And your body would develop muscles and technique in a more mirrored sense. I know my body has taught itself to be unbalanced in this sense. But yeah - bushings are the unsung heroes of setups. I think if you put the perfect bushings for you in the shittest setup, as long as the thing rolls i think you could do all of your standard tricks. Just started thinking it consciously, but i believe it enough to say it again - bushings are the unsung heroes of setups.

[@gavin7772]

Damn I’m gonna go check my bushings real quick lol

[@jakeholland6194]

I used to always skate my nose, unless I was doing a nose grind or slide or something, I would love a symmetrical board with big tails

[@KennedyRyan3]

I’ve been needing new bushings for like 2 years now 🤣🤣 but I just love my set up too much to break in new ones

[@KennedyRyan3]

DB Cooper's MoneyBags true that, mans a legend

[@skankwave5245]

Bones bushings dont need to break in. And new indy bushings neither, they changed the formula, turns like hell from the start

[@vmvlev]

funny i had that feeling with hawk shoes 15 years ago .. i was like hmmm maybe i got too old to do some high ollies .. ... got some reynolds 2 and back on track , did a 50-50 , front ns. and a fakie fs ns on a hip high ledge

[@kamrang2]

Why are boards asymmetrical in the first place? What is the benefit of having a different shape/length in the nose vs. tail?

[@flavalav6757]

Riding the 9.75 symmetrical heroine Eric dressen guest egg right now, SYMS FOR THE WINS

[@chinard]

because symmetrical boards are the best 'play it how it lies'... i like that

[@The_SpaceCowboy]

The symetrical is perfect for flatground tricks, even if you ride both stances :)

[@gorryman]

Thanks for asking about the trucks Kelly

[@xNinj4xHD]

3:32 he is right it evens out

[@shb9641]

The Mike Vallely barn yard board was made over twenty years ago and it was the same on both sides from what I remember. Also the Matt Hensley board in the early 2000 was a double tail

[@Mike_Nowlan]

I literally got an Ishod board today it’s an R1 tho I really like the R1 shape

[@balthorpayne]

Board madness is a real thing. I had the same issues with loose bolts, broken bushings, and the weirdest of all: busted pivot cups. I would be frustrated for weeks until I realize what broke.

[@SkatingwithAaron]

I’ve always thought a symmetrical board is ideal but have never tried one. I see a lot of comments agreeing. My snowboard is symmetrical so why my skateboard? Did you ever try yours and how did you like it?

[@ianblackburn2645]

I really want a twin tail board

[@travisrobert835]

Yoooo that plug to buy one worked on me, gonna order one! Love the show

[@lodisfootwear3019]

iv been doing tht since i started skating in like 97. i remember ppl asking me which side is the front when they tried my board, and i just said, whichever side u want. like a bosss :P haha

[@SPACED87]

Had me cracking up about the bushing issue

[@Drawoj]

Twin nose board Baker common! I haven’t seen any symmetrical Neen DW boards in my local skateshops here in the Philippines.

[@ernestesh492]

I had a enjoy board that had one side 8" and the other 7.75 crazy board and I loved it

[@dsrree]

A symmetrical board would still feel like different sides for me because I have my front trucks a bit looser than my back ones.

[@joshuadaly957]

Non symmetrical boards always kinda pissed me off, always wearing down one side more

[@jgrullon32]

Yea i like the tail side more. I hate steep noses.

[@cmoore1369]

I'll never forget my first Toy Machine. It's was a yellow Mike Maldonado Viper pro model. The shape was fucking crazy, and the nose was huge. It took me a long time to get used to it after skating a 7.75 Alien Workshop (shit).

[@Jakeoux]

switched em out and Ishod's like "oh ya I'm pro" fuckin hilarious. Ishod is one of the GOAT

[@ikaletralleg]

I immediately switched out my old eaten up bushings lmao

[@omnisrk]

I thought since the Mike Vallely double tail - all boards were symmetrical?

[@ianlalaloopsie9022]

The first board I ever skated was a symmetrical board fell in love

[@chrisbond3086]

J Casanova had a twin tail board

[@cheesypeanuts]

I've always skated my board both ways, i don't know why people kick up a fuss about skating the nose. A symmetrical board shouldn't be a ground breaking concept like these guys are talking about it, like its something new they have to get used to

[@p4fizzle]

Must be good for tail slides too. I want one!

[@SandToast3]

What a guy

[@hostsofmichael]

I would love to try one.. Though i would not skate it either way as my back truck is kept tighter than the front. but for nollie and switch I would like the symmetry!

[@trupiil]

new bushings, tighten your trucks symmetrically. Will love it.

[@athiestjesus8133]

I got myself an Ishod symmetrical deck and I'm only riding symmetrical from here on out

[@AspiringSpaceWizard]

Than theres me riding a crazy shaped 9 inch board lol

[@danielangelc]

Careful chris them curves are crazy

[@thepennythief685]

"Oooo I'm pro" 😂😂

[@ashmyblunt]

I like the way symmetrical boards feel, I can’t really find them though or I guess I just don’t know what brands make them

[@KylePawluk]

dawg this makes eefect sense andninwant symmetrical now

[@oghash4912]

Must've been pretty lit those couple months lol

[@user-xl4ww9rf3y]

I literally quit skating at 20 years old necause i hate the standard boards i always wanted a twin tail and always hated feeling like i can sit on the end of my nose and go fishing. It just makes sense for a board to be symmetrical by standard and anything else is a matter of personal taste.

[@user-xl4ww9rf3y]

Also when the nose and tail are different you have to get accustomed with 2 completely different things, it messes with my head, much simpler being symmetrical I can just skate instead of constantly switching my board back and fourth.

[@18JR78]

That means you have two tails. Your pop last twice as long. Genius

[@fernandoreyes680]

But if you skate switch and nollie it won't make a difference in that

[@nicktaylor6724]

Ishod is the shit. puttin it on for NJ. Real dude who rips real hard.

[@nicktaylor6724]

despite that im still sticking to my shaped decks :)

[@camron8418]

i started riding on a symmetrical board

[@prontomatt4787]

Skated two of these symmetrical boards they the shit can’t stop skating them. Problem is finding them 😭

[@illuminatedsoles331]

why this didnt become normal 30 years ago is beyond me

[@gustavobastida150]

Ohh shit I got that board hella sick especially since I got back into skating that bpard helped me get my tricks back

[@zekewalker1350]

Growing up I remember knowing most boards had an obvious nose & tail but I also remember seeing people skate switch and fakie, after which I started assuming that all boards were symmetrical. This is the first I’m seeing that it’s not the standard tbh

[@nyjahsdad1802]

Steve Bailey sets his board up backwards

[@cmoore1369]

I did in my teens. Then I got a Toy Machine. It was too steep lol.

[@rylandsoneverything8889]

I want to like the symmetrical boards n I do I got one loved the way it felt n rode but it fucking snapped so quick like 30 minutes into skating it tbh tho I was tryna heel flip down a gap so it rlly coulda been any board

[@robbglow]

I gotta change my bushings! 😄

[@cherrybombcoffee]

I think body symmetrics are a factor too. My right leg is about 5% bigger than my left and benefit a lot from having nose/tail.

[@gregwoodzell9850]

This is the perfect board for a lot of reasons. I tell anybody who starts skating, learn to ride goofy and regular footed before you do any popping tricks. The beginning of skateboarding is learning to ride the board so why not do it both stance right off. Learn to push with your back foot no matter witch way you skate and carve to build up your muscle memory. If you do this it will get rid of fakie because you’ll always look forward. Basically you’ll mirror you image like a switch hitter in baseball but you’ll never look like your ridding fakie.

[@biggerro8356]

8.3 for slappys? Dawg i ride an 8.75 for slappys and street

[@boosts14]

But you’re a well known pro skater. Oh wait

[@murkyylurkss]

I got ishods board when it came out and I have a hard time going back, if ever.

[@sk8noorzchannel471]

viva symmetry!

[@RollFastJoe]

When i first started skating I thought they were symmetrical d'oh!

[@johnm3946]

If I rode one I wouldn't want to know it was symmetrical till much later on. Just to try to get use to it.

[@theequasian3823]

I’m going through board madness myself can’t even kickflip first try :(

[@hightfly9300]

@DJ Cole I reckon most of them can't pop shove it anymore cos' they're so used to tref flip haha

[@theequasian3823]

@@hightfly9300 for sure ever since learning tre flips myself, my pop shovs took a massive drop in skill

[@sprainedankle8547]

Ishod the GOAT

[@devon08059]

I ride a skateboard not favoring nose or tail. I just ride and have fun.

[@hightfly9300]

This. People forget about the fun. That's mainly why everyone started, but then the madness began...

[@zz1matt]

Please link me to nine inch wide twin tail symmetrical decks.

[@danielm428]

Symmetrical sounds interesting but I don't ride both trucks the same like Kelly.

[@sergiosalgado5589]

I tried it his dont like it I hated so much but haven't tried double nose yet that's seems like it has more pop.

[@reyesrodriguez4501]

Random question, but whatever happened with mystery skateboards/team? Still around?

[@reyesrodriguez4501]

@DJ Cole I never see anything about the team anymore or parts. Loved the graphics. black and white was the last I remember. figured they went out. I Never bought a deck. watched because of zero

[@LEGENDofBEANY]

So I grew up skating lots in the 90’s... there wasn’t anything else but symmetrical decks. I came back to skating 7 years ago ish, and it was all asymmetrical, big decks. I thought, what happened here? Lol can anyone fill me in on when this happened, and I guess what was the main catalyst?

[@coburgerj1993]

I think with how much switch skating happens these days , it only makes sense

[@Dreekuz]

anyone know where to get one? i cant find them anywhere