Indo-Pakistan War 71 - A Pakistani Submarine Fights Back

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The Operations Room

The Operations Room

11 ай бұрын

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Operation Python - The Indo-Pakistan War of 1971, the Indian Navy Western Fleet returns to Karachi to finish off the oil storage depots that were hit during Operation Trident. Later, Pakistani submarine PNS Hangor fights back against the Indian Navy.
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@TheOperationsRoom
@TheOperationsRoom 11 ай бұрын
Thanks to GOAT GUNS for sponsoring this video. Go to goatguns.com for excellent quality die cast gun models.
@JBRAI22
@JBRAI22 11 ай бұрын
I really ant to but they’re so expensive
@gary851
@gary851 11 ай бұрын
let us know about map. I laugh so hard when i saw that mail :)
@SkinkUA
@SkinkUA 11 ай бұрын
I'd buy them If they would fire
@alalalavaladu3670
@alalalavaladu3670 11 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on the indo-sino war?
@Stealth86651
@Stealth86651 11 ай бұрын
It's kinda weird, about a few months before I started seeing the ads I kept wondering why no one had done it yet. Was an idea I had as a kid but unfortunately never got into metalworking/CNC or firearm engineering. You know, the whole "I had the idea just not the capital/skills/tools/drive". Wonder how many other people had the idea until GOAT did it.
@SMAZVidoes
@SMAZVidoes 11 ай бұрын
I was 5 years old in 1971 and living in Karachi. I clearly remember the attack on oil depot. The ground shook and sun did not come out in karachi for several days due to the thick smoke.
@rajatdani619
@rajatdani619 11 ай бұрын
That means U are now 58?
@SMAZVidoes
@SMAZVidoes 11 ай бұрын
Correct
@user-pm7fv9dt6j
@user-pm7fv9dt6j 11 ай бұрын
@@SMAZVidoes Could you describe how people reacted when they learned war was lost? Did they blame the Army or the government?
@user-tx5es2hg4x
@user-tx5es2hg4x 11 ай бұрын
​@@user-pm7fv9dt6j pakistani army has a diseases that called martial race ! They think that only martial race people are good in fighting 😂😂😂
@jaihind9462
@jaihind9462 11 ай бұрын
@@user-pm7fv9dt6jno of course the ever truthful pakistani media will say its a victory and 1 million indian soldiers were killed 😹
@paulbrooks4395
@paulbrooks4395 11 ай бұрын
This series on India and Pakistan has been an unexpected delight. Most channels focus on Western wars and we don’t hear enough about battles in the East that also use more modern weapons and tactics.
@kouamechristophe8601
@kouamechristophe8601 11 ай бұрын
A Catholic is a pagan An evangelical is a pagan A Muslim is a pagan A Buddhist is a pagan An Adventist is a pagan A Jehovah's Witness is a pagan A Judaic is a pagan #ProphetKacouPhilippe
@ahadisgoat
@ahadisgoat 10 ай бұрын
@@kouamechristophe8601bro what
@svenrio8521
@svenrio8521 10 ай бұрын
​@@kouamechristophe8601Schizo mode
@sitarampradhan8488
@sitarampradhan8488 10 ай бұрын
​@@kouamechristophe8601yes I have to agree with you on this morden era.
@starliner2498
@starliner2498 2 ай бұрын
@@kouamechristophe8601 Take your meds
@robwernet9609
@robwernet9609 11 ай бұрын
Those old Soviet Styx missiles proved to be exceptionally effective. Pretty good for 60s/70s technology.
@akshatmaurya3964
@akshatmaurya3964 11 ай бұрын
my man, the war itself happened in 1971 lmao
@ThePressurizer
@ThePressurizer 11 ай бұрын
@@HarryLincoln-cd4wy I think he meant they are old now.
@andychauhan6544
@andychauhan6544 10 ай бұрын
Even the soviets were pleasantly surprised I hear..
@user-jn7jf3kv6k
@user-jn7jf3kv6k 10 ай бұрын
@@akshatmaurya3964 exactly the original comment meant by saying they were good for their time
@johnkins6861
@johnkins6861 10 ай бұрын
Yes it was introduced around 1950s and early 1960s Being decade old missile, still it proved to be very effective
@Thanatos833
@Thanatos833 11 ай бұрын
My Uncle's (My Dad's Older Brother) one-time commanding officer was the same guy who was the captain of the Khukri, he deliberately chose to go down with the Ship since some of his crew had been killed in the torpedo attack and he felt it wouldn't be right for him to escape when some of those under his command had died. He went down the Khukri, apparently, he refused to be dragged off by his crew who wanted to save him and chose to go down with the ship. Apparently, he was last seen by his crew, reading a newspaper as the ship went down. Mahendra Nath Mulla was a very colorful character, my Uncle had some interesting stories about him.
@Anirvachan
@Anirvachan 11 ай бұрын
My father was Capt Mulla's coursemate and shared similar stories about him
@ARIEZ208
@ARIEZ208 11 ай бұрын
Iam so proud of your uncle
@SodiumSyndicate
@SodiumSyndicate 11 ай бұрын
What a Man. My Pranaam to him. Om Shanti.
@xingxanghanji6583
@xingxanghanji6583 11 ай бұрын
@@ARIEZ208atleast read the whole thing
@jason200912
@jason200912 11 ай бұрын
That was stupid. The Japanese commanders were infamous for that and Instead of learning from the experience for the next battle and improve. They simply just seppuku themselves ensuring the next officers will also be fresh out of school.
@fuad6280
@fuad6280 11 ай бұрын
Glad you're continuing the Indian content even after what happened. Your videos are incredibly well researched and very entertaining to watch.
@derrickstorm6976
@derrickstorm6976 11 ай бұрын
Uh, what happened to them?
@CatOfCulture
@CatOfCulture 11 ай бұрын
Fr man. These vids are cool asf
@TheOperationsRoom
@TheOperationsRoom 11 ай бұрын
@fuad6280 for the record I wasn't taken down and the maps were correct 😁
@comtepatatas6941
@comtepatatas6941 11 ай бұрын
​​@@derrickstorm6976If I understood correctly certain viewers didn't like a certain frontier on a certain map in the previous video. So they activated their special turbo rage ability and tried to strike the video.
@observantmagic4156
@observantmagic4156 11 ай бұрын
@@TheOperationsRoomjust use the UN approved maps like other KZbinrs.
@Anirvachan
@Anirvachan 11 ай бұрын
My father was the coursemate of Capt Mulla, and had told me stories of his bravery and of his resolute decision to go down with the ship. Never imagined that I'd see this on a video. Thanks so much! Would love to see Kargil War
@tianzining
@tianzining 11 ай бұрын
respect and salute from Taiwan
@dreadfulbodyguard7288
@dreadfulbodyguard7288 11 ай бұрын
This decision does not serve any purpose. The country just lost a good captain for unnecessary ego.
@HulgulChulchul-sy7ob
@HulgulChulchul-sy7ob 11 ай бұрын
​@@dreadfulbodyguard7288it wasn't unnecessary. It was to set an example for the upcoming soldiers. Besides there was noone to save him. Even INS Kripan had to go back due to the submarine.
@surajbiradar9827
@surajbiradar9827 11 ай бұрын
​​@@dreadfulbodyguard7288read somewhere that there wasn't enough rescue vessels to rescue all the men aboard at that time. So some men definitely would have been left to die. And he didn't want to be the captain who leaves knowing some of his men would definitely sink while he flies away in a helicopter. So he supervised the rescue of many sailors.
@tamberlame27
@tamberlame27 11 ай бұрын
​@@HulgulChulchul-sy7obsets a bad example. If the war dragged on for 3-4 years instead of weeks. Loss of highly trained officers would be huge
@kanrakucheese
@kanrakucheese 11 ай бұрын
The immediate shutdown of a vital port (Karachi) turning what would have been a relatively symmetrical war into a short and comparatively one-sided one reminds me of the Russo-Japanese war.
@dragonstormdipro1013
@dragonstormdipro1013 11 ай бұрын
Make no mistake, Indian military performance in this war was freaking phenomenal
@aadixum
@aadixum 7 ай бұрын
The russian ship sailed around the world, half of the crew died in the journey, the fleet made several enemies during its journey, and ended up getting destroyed by the Japanese.
@kanrakucheese
@kanrakucheese 7 ай бұрын
@@aadixumThey had to make that journey, and suffer the consequences, because the Japanese initial strike was so effective.
@theascendunt9960
@theascendunt9960 8 ай бұрын
Sri Lankan here. I'm a sucker for content like these but most of the videos I've watched are on world wars or western wars. It's great to see conflicts that happened right at our doorstep for a change.
@Thanatos833
@Thanatos833 11 ай бұрын
I must say that missile boat had quite an appropriate name, "Vinash" in the Hindi Language, means "Destruction"
@muhtasimfahmid7844
@muhtasimfahmid7844 11 ай бұрын
In OP Trident, there were INS Nipat and Nirghat. 'Nipat' means damnation, and 'Nirghat' means certainty. Quite good wordplay.
@SeahawkGaming-xp7bl
@SeahawkGaming-xp7bl Ай бұрын
Vinash is a Sanskrit word, Hindi is just a mix of Sanskrit, Farsi and Arabic.
@marcd5196
@marcd5196 11 ай бұрын
Some highlights of the Indo-Pak War 1971 - World's best naval operations in peer-to-peer conflict since WW2 -World's largest Para drop since WW2 - tangail airdrop -Some of the best Special operations and raids behind enemy lines by the PARA SF - Largest surrender since WW2 -New country formation - Almost WW3 with involvement of US and USSR -One of the shortest wars in the history of Wars.
@widespirit7648
@widespirit7648 11 ай бұрын
@@HarryLincoln-cd4wy bruh, cope
@kasshyapp4458
@kasshyapp4458 11 ай бұрын
​@@HarryLincoln-cd4wyadding to that - A Proud Indian! ❤😊🫡🇮🇳
@muhammads.a.m4727
@muhammads.a.m4727 11 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4qnYXaBgrGSo8U
@muneebtahir9810
@muneebtahir9810 11 ай бұрын
Peer to peer? Pakistan's navy was nowhere near parity with the Indian navy. All of what's written above conveniently ignore that this happened when Pakistan was embroiled in a bloody civil war where the country's majority population (Bengalis) was fighting the minority population (West Pakistanis did not constitute Pakistan's majority population). Being armed with the top of line Soviet war material (while Pakistan was reeling under the US military sanctions) and having a numerical advantage of 15:1 in the Eastern theatre (Manekshaw himself accepted), the conception of a country that was 1,000 km away from West Pakistan inhabited by the majority population of united Pakistan (Bengalis) and manned by a mere REGULAR military strength of 45,000. Do also shed some light on 1962 when a region the size of Switzerland was liberated by the Chinese in a swift conflict where nothing was stopping the PLA from even whisking away Arunachal (South Tibet), not the Indian army at least.
@muhtasimfahmid7844
@muhtasimfahmid7844 11 ай бұрын
@@muneebtahir9810 it wasn’t a civil war, it was a liberation war due to perpetrated genocide. There were more than 120,000 regulars in Bangladesh, along with some 100k collaborating razakars. You still got swamped by us, the Indians merely finished the job. Cope harder.
@sam_uelson
@sam_uelson 11 ай бұрын
That was the first submarine torpedo kill since 1945. The only other one was the royal navy putting one up the belgrano during the Falklands situation.
@well-blazeredman6187
@well-blazeredman6187 11 ай бұрын
Forgetting the ROKS Cheonan?
@MeguminIsWaifu
@MeguminIsWaifu 9 ай бұрын
​@@well-blazeredman6187​ First since 1945 means that between 1945 and 1971 there were no submarine torpedo kills. Why would an incident that happened in 2010 matter here?
@not2hot99
@not2hot99 Күн бұрын
​@@MeguminIsWaifuthe second part of the comment says "the only other one", which makes it look like there have only been two ships sunk by submarines, so he points out another instance
@Son_of_Mandalore
@Son_of_Mandalore 11 ай бұрын
Fascinating series. It's great to have some military history content that isn't just focused on WW2 or Vietnam. I hope we get to hear about what happened next.
@dmeinhertzhagen8764
@dmeinhertzhagen8764 11 ай бұрын
Agreed 100%. It’s also nice to learn about military history outside of the Anglo sphere.
@grinch5071
@grinch5071 11 ай бұрын
Great work! I would recommend looking into the battle of Longewala...how 120 men dominated the night against a Pakistani armored division with 40 tanks and 3000 men. At dawn the remaining forces were wiped out by the air force.
@KaalRig
@KaalRig 11 ай бұрын
A war move equivalent to lone survivor could be made on this part.. But for that India will need new film industry
@BigBrotherTheWatcher1984
@BigBrotherTheWatcher1984 11 ай бұрын
Those Chinese made Type-59 tanks still lie in Indian museums
@Personwithnousernamelol
@Personwithnousernamelol 11 ай бұрын
the movie "Border" is about that, its a bit long but good movie
@SodiumSyndicate
@SodiumSyndicate 11 ай бұрын
I remember a US army lieutenant telling me how inferior, pathetic & unfit for battle the Pakistani army were - that it was a disgrace that the USA was allied with Pakistan rather than India. He was exceptionally pained at seeing American equipment always ending on the losing side to Soviet weapons during all Pakistan-India clashes - which were also USA-Soviet clashes in the background.
@surajbiradar9827
@surajbiradar9827 11 ай бұрын
​@@PersonwithnousernamelolAnd a bit inaccurate also. If you start learning history from movies then good luck.
@priyanshuhazra8644
@priyanshuhazra8644 11 ай бұрын
Good to see a person stick to his morals and not get oppressed by outside factors, keep these Indian content coming lad...i loved it
@narzereth
@narzereth 11 ай бұрын
your saying this rn but if theres anything anti india shown in the video, you would go mad.
@jewell1276
@jewell1276 11 ай бұрын
​@@narzereth this channel purpose is to document military content based on facts... there is absolutely no scope to anyone to push any agenda... so stop this keyboard war
@narzereth
@narzereth 11 ай бұрын
@@jewell1276 me? keyboard war? i'm not starting any keyboard war. What i am saying is that if any information is against india in any videos, you get an absolute swarm of indians typing away. for example, if there is a map shown which has POK as part of pakistan, every indian watching that video gets butthurt and then comments "report him for spreading misinformation!!!!"
@theseasofenvy8826
@theseasofenvy8826 11 ай бұрын
​@@narzerethhe's talking about the Ops room's latest community post, where the Survey of India threatened legal action because of "inaccurate maps" (they just want to claim a disputed territory) Why would anti-indian content do anything?
@jewell1276
@jewell1276 11 ай бұрын
@@narzereth you reply to the comments was kinda provoking for him to reply and the it goes on... blah blah.... i think you get what i meant... he was also not pointing that op room should have used the map , hes just supporting the channel
@sympathiser_of_Germans_in_40s
@sympathiser_of_Germans_in_40s 11 ай бұрын
You should look into the tank battles in indo-pak wars. They are some of the best.
@abhilash9918
@abhilash9918 11 ай бұрын
Or the use of artillery during kargil war at heights. 300 plus artillery guns, launchers fired around 250k shells, rockets etc.
@HailHydra27
@HailHydra27 11 ай бұрын
2:46 the attack was so devastating that it removed a large part of thr landmass apparently
@DomCombatVids
@DomCombatVids 11 ай бұрын
Fucking loved this channel for years and now you're doing another Indo-Pak video despite the shitstorm of last time. Fucking love you more man
@orion7326
@orion7326 11 ай бұрын
Calm down bro
@zeeraxa9671
@zeeraxa9671 11 ай бұрын
Shitstorm ? Seriously
@kirbyball97
@kirbyball97 11 ай бұрын
​@@zeeraxa9671yeah, Indian nationals got real mad he used the internationally recognized maps, and not theirs.
@durgeshsss
@durgeshsss 11 ай бұрын
​@@kirbyball97but whats wrong in asking correct maps ? UN still shows crimea as part of Ukraine in thought russia controls it then why not kashmir? The state of Jammu and Kashmir was acceded to india through legal process which india used for every 564 princely state in india. It was illegally occupied by Pakistan. UN also approved in UN article 48, that Pakistan was an aggressor and they broked the stand still agreement they made with kashmir.
@zeeraxa9671
@zeeraxa9671 11 ай бұрын
@@kirbyball97 all three countries involve in Kashmir will object in some from or the other , we don't have any land claims apart from POK since it's legally ours, it's a complicated situation
@ace1776
@ace1776 11 ай бұрын
Admiral! My PNS is exploding!
@Avionicx
@Avionicx 11 ай бұрын
The 1971 War is an incredibly interesting conflict. Within a week, the Indian military was able to beat back a large Pakistani army and saved Bangladesh from further genocide and rape. The tank battles and air war of 1971 are also incredibly interesting. The 1965 war is also an intresting conflict, including some large tank battles.
@DomCombatVids
@DomCombatVids 11 ай бұрын
13 days, not a week. 3rd to 16th December
@patbateman9473
@patbateman9473 11 ай бұрын
​@@prestallar4339actually no. The Indian Army attacking east Pakistan was quite small as compared to the 93000+ strong pak army. But due to miscommunication, Gen Niazi thought the size of the attacking forces was too large to handle and surrendered without a fight lol
@durgeshsss
@durgeshsss 11 ай бұрын
​@@prestallar4339india was defending itself from 3 other front and army was deployed to defend those fronts 1st front - West Pakistan 2nd front - North and north east from china 3rd front - the indian coastline from the west - UK, USA, ARABS
@patbateman9473
@patbateman9473 11 ай бұрын
@@droomankaas5904 how?
@SF7PAKISTAN
@SF7PAKISTAN 11 ай бұрын
@@patbateman9473 There was nowhere near 90,000 Pakistani troops in East Pakistan. The whole force was around 30,000 and only one or two squadrons of Sabres were there
@CatOfCulture
@CatOfCulture 11 ай бұрын
Hey mate, just wanted to say, keep making these cool vids. Please cover the Kargil War next!!! Also, a recommendation, when you're mentioning people in the video, please add their photo and name if possible! It just looks more aesthetically pleasing and makes the content more understandable.
@jermasus
@jermasus 11 ай бұрын
Seconded, lots of naval history channels does this and gives them human characters
@samanyupalthi
@samanyupalthi 11 ай бұрын
​​@@jermasusxactly a good one is the Pacific series of kings and general where they show real people!
@liloistheendiahater
@liloistheendiahater 11 ай бұрын
You guys lost to china
@CatOfCulture
@CatOfCulture 11 ай бұрын
@@liloistheendiahater And you guys to Vietnam and the Talibs.
@SodiumSyndicate
@SodiumSyndicate 11 ай бұрын
@@liloistheendiahater India lost to China in 1962 but won a ferocious victory against China in 1967 war. The Chinese military in 1967 simply ran away from the battle field with their tails between their legs.
@anantthakur7166
@anantthakur7166 10 ай бұрын
One of my relatives knew Mahendra Nath Mulla because he hailed from the same town of Lucknow, a very passionate charismatic naval officer who sacrificed himself in the line of the duty in the highest traditions of navy.Salute to the braveheart. A near perfect operational excellence achieved by Indian navy in 1971 by sinking half of the enemy's navy just for a loss of 1 frigate ( that too when the outcome of the war was pretty much settled).
@peterasp1968
@peterasp1968 11 ай бұрын
To summarize, the Pakistani sub captain was skillful the Indian frigate captain was brave.
@ericvonmanstein2112
@ericvonmanstein2112 11 ай бұрын
In wars skillfulness of militaries usually win over bravery
@ericvonmanstein2112
@ericvonmanstein2112 11 ай бұрын
@@iridium8341 that's it you are right I was just making my point
@WimsicleStranger
@WimsicleStranger 11 ай бұрын
From pooing in the streets to being a poor but fierce military power in central asia
@ericvonmanstein2112
@ericvonmanstein2112 11 ай бұрын
@@WimsicleStranger hmm I guess it is the Indians who have a long tradition of "pooing" in the streets Forgot the movement named "khule mein hagna band karo" ???
@durgeshsss
@durgeshsss 11 ай бұрын
​@@WimsicleStrangeryour grammar is just your thinking... poopie
@arunchaudhary1722
@arunchaudhary1722 11 ай бұрын
Who needs to watch war movies when we have people like you making such incredibly fine videos.....can you please suggest some reading?
@barbosaguzman6101
@barbosaguzman6101 11 ай бұрын
Just don't use Google as a source.
@TheBestDog
@TheBestDog 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, Operations Room Channel. You, folks, make detailed history fun
@shujah9746
@shujah9746 11 ай бұрын
As a Pakistani I always knew our Navy was a mess. The Weakest of all three Forces. It's interesting to get information from unbiased neutral sources. Please continue your work and make more videos on other Indo Pak conflicts, regards.
@kashifriaz3958
@kashifriaz3958 10 ай бұрын
First of all you are not pakistani cuz had you been you would not have called this shit neutral and unbiased cuz it fails to cover PAF's counter attak on indian ports. Second i would love to see the indians getting their asses smacked in 65 and kargil when Musharaf landed in india and conducted raids.
@sammy57533
@sammy57533 8 ай бұрын
oh the same '65 war when india captured lahore and made pakistanis retreat out of delhi by cutting all their supply lines XDDDD@@kashifriaz3958
@Delatta1961
@Delatta1961 11 ай бұрын
Great presentation. I look forward to seeing more. I understand why Captains want to go down with the ship, but I would think there’d be standing orders against it. Loosing some crew in battle in wartime is going to happen. However, career Naval Captains don’t just appear. They are trained for 20-30 decades, and have a wealth of experience. Standing orders should be against such a decision
@dragonstormdipro1013
@dragonstormdipro1013 11 ай бұрын
Nowadays there are orders against that. But in 71 things were different.
@-VOR
@-VOR 11 ай бұрын
There ARE such orders. A captain is supposed to be the last person off the ship. That doesn't mean you have to go down with the ship. It means that as the captain of a sinking ship you are responsible for getting people off of that ship until it's no longer possible to rescue anyone else. You are then entitled to save yourself.
@arghyamondal3661
@arghyamondal3661 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant video, can you make a full series on the 1999 kargil war between India and Pakistan 😅
@looinrims
@looinrims 11 ай бұрын
Just imagine the map strikes from that
@arghyamondal3661
@arghyamondal3661 11 ай бұрын
I am more concerned about the war in the comments section lol 😂
@CatOfCulture
@CatOfCulture 11 ай бұрын
+1
@dumolollen7676
@dumolollen7676 11 ай бұрын
Glad to see the continuous videos on the Naval engagement of Indo-Pak war of 1971 , i hope the actions of INS vikrant would be highlighted with her Naval aircrafts
@Shaz337
@Shaz337 11 ай бұрын
Great vid as always, never really looked much into this war but this has definitely peaked my interest.
@anonymousXYZ659
@anonymousXYZ659 11 ай бұрын
Been binging 1971 war content lately, and this came out at the perfectly time.
@JPhelps
@JPhelps 11 ай бұрын
Operations Room: Gets threatened by literal India Op Room: Who cares
@durgeshsss
@durgeshsss 11 ай бұрын
Not by india ...by KZbin
@JPhelps
@JPhelps 11 ай бұрын
@@durgeshsss I guess I got confused by the post then
@rick7424
@rick7424 11 ай бұрын
​@@JPhelpsNo, you were right. KZbin merely informed him of the complained.
@TheOperationsRoom
@TheOperationsRoom 11 ай бұрын
This video is dedicated to the International Boundary Directorate Survey of India x
@Boeing_hitsquad
@Boeing_hitsquad 11 ай бұрын
LOLOLOOLLOLOL
@generaliized4710
@generaliized4710 11 ай бұрын
Bless your soul man! As a Pakistani, I appreciate you being neutral and just showing what both sides possess rather than what both sides claim. Don't ever stop the Indo-Pak wars series, they're great to watch! :D
@vaibhavsharma9805
@vaibhavsharma9805 11 ай бұрын
Me being an Indian knows some Indians are unnecessarily too sensitive
@rick7424
@rick7424 11 ай бұрын
*Emotional damage*
@user-tx5es2hg4x
@user-tx5es2hg4x 11 ай бұрын
​@@generaliized4710you won't be able to cope if he shows the reality of all wars 😂😂😂
@arifnugroho1563
@arifnugroho1563 11 ай бұрын
The wobbly animation on the submarine to make it look like underwater was a really nice touch
@shantanusingh7426
@shantanusingh7426 11 ай бұрын
Can you cover the battle of Longewala? It's part of the 1971 war and a legendary battle of 120 soldiers vs 3000 soldiers and 40 tanks.
@thomaswilliams4543
@thomaswilliams4543 11 ай бұрын
TOR: A featureless blue sea The Indian Government: Map's wrong, complaint filed
@ArunavGhosh-wb1gt
@ArunavGhosh-wb1gt 11 ай бұрын
Btw that wasn't Indian govt, its the survey of India, and I will urge u to read the advisory from the google again before making any statements on behalf of the channel.
@alexanderbarrera7496
@alexanderbarrera7496 11 ай бұрын
Them Pakistani’s have a horrid KD ratio in this one.
@dragonstormdipro1013
@dragonstormdipro1013 11 ай бұрын
In all wars tbh
@heatengine9283
@heatengine9283 11 ай бұрын
If you combine all wars Pakistan has a 1:3 KD ratio against India.
@BigBrotherTheWatcher1984
@BigBrotherTheWatcher1984 11 ай бұрын
​@@HarryLincoln-cd4wy These are the casualties in all Indo-Pakistani conflicts according to neutral sources 1947-48 Kashmir War India and J&K - 6000 Casualties Pakistan - 20000 Casualties 1965 War India - 3000 men 150-190 tanks 60-75 aircraft Pakistan - 3800 men 250-3000 tanks 20-25 aircraft 1971 war India - 2300-3800 men 1 naval frigate 46 aircraft 83 tanks Pakistan- 9000-10000 men 13 Naval vessels 75 aircraft 200-250 tanks Siachen Conflict India - 36 casualties Pakistan - 200 casualties Kargil War of 1999 India - 527 men 3 aircraft Pakistan - 1000 - 4000 men
@heatengine9283
@heatengine9283 11 ай бұрын
@@HarryLincoln-cd4wy Go ahead. Check the numbers and do the math. The data is public anyway.
@vedantvasant6944
@vedantvasant6944 11 ай бұрын
my school teacher's father in law fought in the 71 war. I remember him telling that they had orders to go on the attack, it was during the speech for the declaration of war that the attack happened. So even though the pakistani army knew that the attack was inevitable they expected a bit of delay after the declaration and where caught of guard.
@-AchmadPrayogiRafsanjani
@-AchmadPrayogiRafsanjani 11 ай бұрын
Appreciate you're still continuing the series after the lawsuit threat bro, continue the good work!!!
@amartyaroy3754
@amartyaroy3754 11 ай бұрын
Keep up the good work man, love that you are covering Indian military history.
@kornalbabua2000
@kornalbabua2000 11 ай бұрын
On the topic of 1971 war , a rare Airborne op was conducted with success . A Parachute Bn Group was dropped in East Pakistan to capture a bridge for advancing ground forces and in the event 2 PARA once having captured the bridge without waiting for a full link up went on and were the first to enter the capital,Dacca . In a world full of heroic Airborne disasters this one could stand out as a major success. Thankfully this wasn't a Bridge too far. An interesting topic for future which is generally not adequately covered in the Military history world.
@aviatorchester
@aviatorchester 11 ай бұрын
Poongli
@rick7424
@rick7424 11 ай бұрын
You're making great content. I am glad you did not let yourself be detered!
@shazam2112
@shazam2112 Ай бұрын
As an Indian, I loved watching this! Thanks for the great video
@jeffe9842
@jeffe9842 11 ай бұрын
I remember this war, but know almost nothing about it. Glad you're doing videos on it.
@anay5142
@anay5142 11 ай бұрын
Glad to see someone making a video on indian- Pakistan war
@martiniv8924
@martiniv8924 11 ай бұрын
A work colleague and good friend of mine (we worked together in Dubai) was on the Kirpan when the Kukri was torpedoed , he was only 16 or 17 at the time, and thought his time was up!.
@incubusk8r
@incubusk8r 11 ай бұрын
Even my father was on Kirpan
@Baboi62182
@Baboi62182 Ай бұрын
That young in the military?
@DarkFriday1408
@DarkFriday1408 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic video, as always! It really well researched and very entertaining to watch. If possible, might you do a video of the Battle of Longewala?
@rajivpk95
@rajivpk95 7 ай бұрын
My grand uncle late E Chandy Admiral Kuruvilla would be extremely amazed on how well you explained this
@zt3gaming796
@zt3gaming796 11 ай бұрын
the accuracy of Soviet cold war era anti ship missiles is shockingly good
@surajbiradar9827
@surajbiradar9827 11 ай бұрын
Its interesting to see some palces remain militarily important throughout history. In this case Diu is the same place where the Portuguese fought with the Gujrat sultanate supported by mamluks in 15 th century to control the north Arabian sea trade.
@bikenavbm1229
@bikenavbm1229 10 ай бұрын
Great content and all new history to me, great to learn new details in such a clear way. thanks, keep up the quality work.
@kizzer14100
@kizzer14100 11 ай бұрын
Love the videos man. I’d love to see a video on the whole of the Falklands as my uncle fought there, or on the battle of Khe San or Long Tan!
@nemergix1707
@nemergix1707 11 ай бұрын
holy shit those early soviet missiles are pretty good ...
@AshanBhatoa
@AshanBhatoa 11 ай бұрын
What did you think they were?
@vaibhavsharma9805
@vaibhavsharma9805 11 ай бұрын
Those missiles were great for their time
@nemergix1707
@nemergix1707 11 ай бұрын
@@AshanBhatoa well they can barely make better missiles 70 years later sooo
@Strategikos
@Strategikos 11 ай бұрын
Very nice to see post-WW2 conflicts covered. I suggest you to also cover the 1974 Cyprus invasion at some point.
@DomCombatVids
@DomCombatVids 11 ай бұрын
Kings and Generals have done a series on the conflict already
@ArenBerberian
@ArenBerberian 11 ай бұрын
@@DomCombatVids Kings and Generals are kinda biast and also not the most accurate at times.
@DomCombatVids
@DomCombatVids 11 ай бұрын
@@ArenBerberian you mean they're not rabid Turk supporters?
@ArenBerberian
@ArenBerberian 11 ай бұрын
@@DomCombatVids What have Turks got to do with anything?
@rick7424
@rick7424 11 ай бұрын
​@@ArenBerberianProve it.
@VosperCDN
@VosperCDN 11 ай бұрын
Why INS Kukri was not manoeuvring in any way for so long in light of a known sub attack on INS Kirpan is mind-boggling. Were the two ships out of comms/LOS and it didn't know, or was the Captain simply that negligent?
@rajatdani619
@rajatdani619 11 ай бұрын
Ins Kirpan also Dodged the Torpedo Just by Hard maneuvering the Ship. The Khukri had Sonar issue and I think one of its Boiler also didn't worked well.
@soumyaranjanmohapatra4862
@soumyaranjanmohapatra4862 11 ай бұрын
After the attack on INS kirpan, INS khukri changed course, increased speed and came rushing towards the last known position of PNS hangor to press for an attack but PNS hangor had a sonar that outranged INS khukri's own sonar, which resulted in PNS hangor detecting INS khukri first and they knew it's heading towards them so they changed mode and fired torpedo towards the incoming but unsuspecting khukri, INS khukri's sonar was technologically inferior to the sonar of PNS hangor, couple it with the fact that khukri's sonar required it to move slowly for it to work properly and it resulted in INS khukri detecting the incoming torpedo too late and with such short range the ship failed to maneuver and avoid the torpedo, Later the Indian Navy's inquiry also found that the ship had not followed the Indian Navy's anti submarine doctrine properly
@rajgogoi2178
@rajgogoi2178 11 ай бұрын
The Indian frigate had sonar range of only 5 km. That too effective while slowing the ship. Pak sub was latest one with modern sonar of its time range of 25 km. Both Indian frigates were of no match to the pak sub
@VosperCDN
@VosperCDN 11 ай бұрын
@@soumyaranjanmohapatra4862 That would be a more reasonable reaction/outcome than was was depicted here.
@vidco2467
@vidco2467 11 ай бұрын
INS Khukri definitely made mistakes...
@Eboreg2
@Eboreg2 9 ай бұрын
I remember trying to repeat this success in Command: Modern Air/Naval Operations. Efforts were fairly hampered by the fact that the Indian frigates were just as fast as the Pakistani torpedoes but they kept trying to dodge side-to-side allowing the torpedoes to catch up eventually.
@Meatful
@Meatful 11 ай бұрын
I’d love to see more regional conflicts from around this time period
@Meatful
@Meatful 11 ай бұрын
Maybe a battle or series of battle from the Rodhesian bush war? They had devastating tactics
@claymore993
@claymore993 11 ай бұрын
You failed to mention 2 of events in PNS Hangor's records: Hangor fired a torpedo towards Kirpan when it was coming for rescue of Kukri, a loud explosion was heard which indicated the torpedo has strucked but later it was found that the ship did not sank. Immediately after this engagement the Indian Navy launched a massive hunting mission against Hangor and dropped depth charges indiscriminately. Hangor had to remain submerged for a week to escape this Indian mission. This could be verified by personal interviews of Cdr Tasneem.
@incubusk8r
@incubusk8r 11 ай бұрын
My father was on Kirpan. Nothing hit his ship.
@sadaqatali6393
@sadaqatali6393 11 ай бұрын
​@@incubusk8rand I dropped nuclear bombs on Japan on August 6 1945.
@mercedesbenz3751
@mercedesbenz3751 11 ай бұрын
who believes in Pakistani Military or Pakistani people. They're all liers. Only Indian side of sources are truthful and credible.
@718Insomniac
@718Insomniac 11 ай бұрын
Keep up the good fight! Much needed content.
@blablableh724
@blablableh724 11 ай бұрын
Great content, i knew little or nothing about this conflict.
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 11 ай бұрын
Glad to learn about a little-taught conflict (in the West), especially from such an incredible documentary channel!
@hamzakhalil-gs7oc
@hamzakhalil-gs7oc 11 ай бұрын
Idk much about these wars and have seen documentry on these Wars of indo-Pak but its documented by people on both sides so theres loads of bias and Propaganda but good to see a neutral big channel like this covering this War and telling what truly happened and also telling all the major Battles that happened, I didnt even know there was a Naval battle in 1972 until today. Hope you make video about 1945, 1965, and 1999 indo-pak Wars
@BigBrotherTheWatcher1984
@BigBrotherTheWatcher1984 11 ай бұрын
That's how history works - documentation by people who were actually there.
@shani2847
@shani2847 11 ай бұрын
Indians are told that PNS Hangor was sank by a Kukri. Truly Entertaining😂
@FreddieMurphy746
@FreddieMurphy746 11 ай бұрын
​@@shani2847No...INS Khukri's loss was felt by Sam Manekshah. He was under a lot stress post the loss of Khukri...
@kingrichards9295
@kingrichards9295 10 ай бұрын
​@@shani2847no one in india tell this, Indians accept everything, unlike Pakistan studies, even till 16 the Dec, 1971, all leading newspapers in Pakistan were reporting the wins if pak army against india, and how Indian army was being defeated everywhere, then suddenly it was BBC who first brought the news of pak army defeat and surrender🙄
@sayanpal70
@sayanpal70 11 ай бұрын
You're doing great Thanks for uploading
@sanketwalunj3937
@sanketwalunj3937 10 ай бұрын
I am Happy that You are Making Content on Our History SO that New Generation can Know What Happend. Thank you sooo much . love the content also.
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment 11 ай бұрын
What an interesting choice for an upload considering the recent events and also considering what happened the last video. Keep it up, man.
@NoMustang273
@NoMustang273 11 ай бұрын
What recent events are you talking about?
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment 11 ай бұрын
@@NoMustang273 The Titanic submarine and the other one being some Indians getting mad over Ops Room using a UN map not used by India
@xenocrates7
@xenocrates7 11 ай бұрын
​@@Big_E_Soul_Fragmentnot some Indian but "Survey of India" an government entity which launch official maps in India...no country in the world will digest its wrong map
@eddycolangelo
@eddycolangelo 11 ай бұрын
LOL that's not how any of this works! No government entity gets to make up their own borders as they please, borders are negotiated and then universally agreed upon and approved. If the UN says that your border is such and such and you don't like it, then you either litigate the issue with them and see if you can make them change their mind or you shut it and accept the fact that you didn't own that piece of land. Either way, you don't get to make up your own borders, so stop all of this nonsense, you just look stupid.
@NoMustang273
@NoMustang273 11 ай бұрын
@xenocrates7 I'm pretty sure he was using the defacto map which shows POK under Pakistan and Aksei Chin under China. It's literally the defacto map irrespective of what the govt. claims. Should Pakistan be allowed to strike videos because it doesn't show it controlling Kashmir?
@shivamtomar
@shivamtomar 11 ай бұрын
Wow This is better content than Netflix and I am addicted to the it. Also great to see you didn't cared about governments propaganda and problems.
@thesaturn6763
@thesaturn6763 11 ай бұрын
This is awesome. Would love to see a video on the battle of Latakia.
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 11 ай бұрын
You did a Part II? Yeeeeeee! Well done.
@HeisenbergFam
@HeisenbergFam 11 ай бұрын
Submarines content is very fitting with current Submarine news
@CatOfCulture
@CatOfCulture 11 ай бұрын
lmao
@call_me_kay
@call_me_kay 11 ай бұрын
Keep up with the great content... Love from India
@watchyoutube1268
@watchyoutube1268 11 ай бұрын
This is awesome! would love to see the ground attack covered by TOR as well
@arjunraja8143
@arjunraja8143 10 ай бұрын
Top notch content. Earned a sub👍
@connorl.2170
@connorl.2170 11 ай бұрын
Lots of submarine content today huh
@nategus1012
@nategus1012 11 ай бұрын
nahhhhh
@Ug0tmi1k
@Ug0tmi1k 11 ай бұрын
Damn I'm very surprised you're still uploading Indian stuff despite the overblown government takedown notice! Good on ya
@blakegoulds8313
@blakegoulds8313 11 ай бұрын
An Iraqi Captain and I were once talking about why the military of Muslim countries were.....lets admit it.....bad. "From the day a Muslim boy is born he is pitted against his brothers. He and his brothers are against his cousins. His clan against other clans in the tribe. Our tribe against all the world." Loyalty to of these familial ties are held high above the good of the nation as a whole.
@kirbyball97
@kirbyball97 11 ай бұрын
Keep in mind they also didn't want to be a country for the most part. Large swaths of land were cut up in weird places taking in no regard for cultural differences and ethnic differences. The groups that were still killing each other were told they were a nation now and to get along. Went about as well as you would expect.
@parvizdeamer
@parvizdeamer 11 ай бұрын
The irony is that that was the very reason the Muhammad (Pbuh) brought Islam… to unite the tribes… unfortunately they let their traditions dominate over the religious teachings and a great civilization that could have united the world, fell apart, and with it Islam itself.
@syedahmed8650
@syedahmed8650 11 ай бұрын
You do understand that it isn’t a Muslim thing. It’s a dictatorial thing. Muslim Bengali forces were also routing the Pakistanis in 71 and in 1965 Muslim Bengalis defended Lahore from india with gallantry. The problem is there is no rule of law in Pakistan
@Sea-qv4sd
@Sea-qv4sd 11 ай бұрын
That would imply they don’t fight bravely or together against enemy countries, but they do
@blakegoulds8313
@blakegoulds8313 11 ай бұрын
@@Sea-qv4sd It does not. It implies exactly what I said. Their cohesion as a nation is impeded by these outlooks you just don't find in other parts of the world
@collinsx62
@collinsx62 11 ай бұрын
Keep the content on this war coming!
@chrismodini7225
@chrismodini7225 11 ай бұрын
When The Operations Room uploads, everything else stops.
@crashburn3292
@crashburn3292 11 ай бұрын
Discovering this channel and binge watching it is like opening present on Christmas Day...
@redwing6863
@redwing6863 11 ай бұрын
11:18 ..thats just pure respect
@PerditionHaze
@PerditionHaze 11 ай бұрын
It's a good way to start the morning with an Operations Room video!
@nyimdewan3353
@nyimdewan3353 11 ай бұрын
Keep up the work man...Can you also do some battle plannings and explanations of famous battles...
@dragonstormdipro1013
@dragonstormdipro1013 11 ай бұрын
Regrettable to see what has happened to you. You are an incredible content creator. I wish you nothing but best of luck. PNS Hangor was crewed by a very good crew. Indian Navy was right to assess Pak submarines were the biggest threat to them.
@durgeshsss
@durgeshsss 11 ай бұрын
What happened to the creator?
@Ozraptor4
@Ozraptor4 11 ай бұрын
@@durgeshsss Mass-whining by Indian ultra-nationalists and legal threats from the Indian government because he's using the standard & internationally recognised UN maps instead of their own maps which enforce Indian territorial claims over the disputed Kashmir region.
@AryaEZAF
@AryaEZAF 11 ай бұрын
​@@Ozraptor4Kashmir and Balochistan is an integral part of India and we will take it back on our own chosen time and we don't give a sh** about what UN thinks or what you think in the matter of fact.
@Ozraptor4
@Ozraptor4 11 ай бұрын
@@AryaEZAF Thankyou for illustrating my point.
@poopnakedyeah
@poopnakedyeah 11 ай бұрын
​@@AryaEZAFso you can turn them into designated shitting areas?
@navb0tactual
@navb0tactual 11 ай бұрын
Me: *_is about to sleep_* Operations Room: "And I took that personally"
@boeing-lt4el
@boeing-lt4el 11 ай бұрын
6:15 awesome fireball graphics!
@funnybaby27
@funnybaby27 11 ай бұрын
Intervention of a real picture at 6:08 is very nice.
@lagboi4539
@lagboi4539 11 ай бұрын
Gets an notification from KZbin due to a map - Posts more on the subject
@yashvardhanojha6796
@yashvardhanojha6796 11 ай бұрын
Captain Mahendra Nath Mulla was from my city . He refused to evacuate himself and decided to go down with the ship.
@mayukhbasak163
@mayukhbasak163 11 ай бұрын
I really don't like this type of thing. In a war every man is vital and he was a captain at that. Won't it be much better if he came back and shared his experience with fighting pak subs to the high command? The Japanese also did the same
@yashvardhanojha6796
@yashvardhanojha6796 11 ай бұрын
@@mayukhbasak163 that's what we want from him but warriors think differently, they are greedy of glory. If I were the captain, I'll do the same but hope others don't do it. It takes years to train a commander.
@PanzerIVAE
@PanzerIVAE 11 ай бұрын
@@mayukhbasak163 You can view it as like a responsibility thing and to just purely warrior's honor A captain failed their duty as a captain and got people killed and the ship sunk. The least they can do is go down with the ship.
@flarvin8945
@flarvin8945 11 ай бұрын
@@PanzerIVAEmore like the captain did not want to face the humiliation and possible charges, for allowing his crew to be in such a relaxed state during a war.
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 11 ай бұрын
Terrific video! Your animations have become truly superb and all your works are well researched and fascinating.
@naturallyaspirated8893
@naturallyaspirated8893 11 ай бұрын
I love to see this channel dissecting conflicts from all over the world!
@dougmasters4579
@dougmasters4579 11 ай бұрын
I'm not so sure. I think his best videos focus on western battles and wars. Not many people understand these countries or their complex history, which makes the videos confusing.
@aadityamalik7342
@aadityamalik7342 11 ай бұрын
CANT WAIT FOR KARGIL WAR SERIES, ALL THE YOUNG OFFICERS AND THEIR TALES
@skinnysnorlax9994
@skinnysnorlax9994 11 ай бұрын
Can you do a series about the Falklands? I’m sure I’m not the only one who would be interested
@swenhtet2861
@swenhtet2861 11 ай бұрын
Great content as always. Do you plan to do the Battle of Longewala as well?
@ayushkumarjha9921
@ayushkumarjha9921 10 ай бұрын
Thnx for focusing post ww2 wars.
@Lazuli2-6
@Lazuli2-6 11 ай бұрын
Did you.. did your team just break your upload schedule and worked overtime to upload another India video just to get back at that legal team? They should've never messed with a group who do their research lol
@axel665
@axel665 11 ай бұрын
What is indian geography society even gonna do ban the video
@Niceguy312373636
@Niceguy312373636 11 ай бұрын
Your videos made me and what I believe to be a lot of people aware of Indian accolades. It's a shame that some ultra nationalists were trying to sabotage what's essentially a free PR campaign for them
@SodiumSyndicate
@SodiumSyndicate 11 ай бұрын
The free PR campaign can be gotten ANYTIME, but the world cannot be allowed to normalize wrong maps of India.
@surajbiradar9827
@surajbiradar9827 11 ай бұрын
​@@SodiumSyndicatestop this non sense!! You are just making a fool of yourself. If everyone started to use maps based on claims then taiwan will be shown in China. And go and ask residents of POK if they even want to be in India. You act like these palces are just barren lands with no people. These maps are what the government controls and administeres. Let the governments do this cartograohic advocacy and focus on what is more important here. As an Indian I am embarrassed that illogical and senseless people like you are my countrymen.
@RK-cj4oc
@RK-cj4oc 11 ай бұрын
​@@SodiumSyndicateIts not a wrong map. Be silent instead of embarressing your country.
@kingspammernerd
@kingspammernerd 11 ай бұрын
@@SodiumSyndicate Claiming territory that we don't control is just lying to ourselves. Instead of crying about maps, we should be preparing to take back actual ground. The current administration, however, is only interested in burning our own country to the ground before any such thing can materialize.
@_UCS_SwapnilSahaiSrivastav
@_UCS_SwapnilSahaiSrivastav 11 ай бұрын
​@@SodiumSyndicateit is the defacto map.....you can claim whatever you want, you can claim entire china belongs to you, but the world will recognise only what is in your control, not your claim. Otherwise Pakistan also claims entire kashmir, should they show kashmir belongs to Pakistan on the map?
@sb3215
@sb3215 11 ай бұрын
Your videos are very good to watch. The narration is extremely good and the graphics make it very easy to understand even for a layman. Good Work. Keep it up. Next Kargil.
@Huckleberry.69
@Huckleberry.69 11 ай бұрын
I thought I should watch this quick, before the powers that be issue a cease and desist order! Great production as always.
@sunilraveendran3232
@sunilraveendran3232 11 ай бұрын
And here I was thinking you would be a petty youtuber and make a super biased content against India just to piss off the "ultranationalist" Indians. But, I was very wrong, you remain a pro and will continue to do so, I am sure. I have been following this channel from a very long time and easily one of my top favorite in all media. Thank you so much for all the quality content and please continue to make more. Many Best wishes to TOR!! Love form India.
@TheAdriyaman
@TheAdriyaman 11 ай бұрын
Another great video. Good to see lesser known wars are also being covered by some channels. I just found out about the shitstorm that rose from your previous video. I'm sure you understand that this is a sensitive subject for us Indians, and we do have a slight point that just because the map is an UN map doesn't mean it is objectively correct. But I don't approve of harassing content creators on KZbin because of that, so apologies on behalf of my fellow Indians.
@marcd5196
@marcd5196 11 ай бұрын
1971 war is definitely not "lesser known". Like a whole country came out of it and its the biggest victory(and surrender) since WW2 Maybe lesser known about teenage fanboys, but they dont count.
@ahadisgoat
@ahadisgoat 10 ай бұрын
@@marcd5196but in the west no one talks about it
@marcd5196
@marcd5196 10 ай бұрын
@@ahadisgoat most average westerners cant even find their own country on the world map. They dont count. If there's any Western historian or people with some level of knowledge, they would surely have decent idea. A lot of western militaries do study operations from the Indo-Pak wars.
@bhaswardeepsikdar446
@bhaswardeepsikdar446 10 ай бұрын
Thanks to THE GOAT KZbinr for continueing the series on India 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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