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@EvoraGT430 Жыл бұрын
WOWS now has so many planes, torpedoes and submarines, you will feel like the Musashi if you play surface ships......don't bother.
@yakovbrod9992 Жыл бұрын
I always wonder how is the anti air so ineffective?
@TheMidwestMarvels Жыл бұрын
Hey, would you be open to more sponsors? I run a ww2 shop and I'd like to sponsor you.
@EricEngle-f1q Жыл бұрын
CLIFFHANGER ENDING!
@jameslrbrand2002uk Жыл бұрын
@@yakovbrod9992 it didn't used to be but well Wargaming nerfed it because of the whinging carrier players at Tier 5 USS Texas was an absolute beast.
@MCFernando82 Жыл бұрын
The Mexican contribution was in the form of El 201 Escuadrón de Pelea; the 201st Figther Squadron. 25-30 planes, mainly P-47D, and about 400 men between pilots, ground crews, staff etc. To this day is the only unit of the Mexican Armed Forces that has fought in a foreign theater of war.
@Wolfeson28 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning this. I'd never heard of a Mexican unit being part of this battle before, and I was wondering what that contribution was.
@5552-d8b Жыл бұрын
There was a Brazilian unit the “smoking snakes”🐍 🚬 that fought effectively in Italy during ww2
@recoil53 Жыл бұрын
@@5552-d8b In P-51's IIRC.
@earlhuff7847 Жыл бұрын
Alot of countries contributed throughout the war with hardly a mention sometimes. Thanks for reminding me the Mexicans did help in this
@quantumsniper9433 Жыл бұрын
@@earlhuff7847There were also quite a number that joined in late 1944/1945 when the war was basically lost for germany/japan just so they could be on the winning side and maybe get some stuff out of it
@tayzonday Жыл бұрын
I learn about so many World War II battles from this channel, I swear I missed a sequel, like “World War II: Reloaded” 🍿
@DiviAugusti Жыл бұрын
I always appreciate a Tay Zonday sighting in geopolitics/history video comments.
@Donuthan Жыл бұрын
@@DiviAugusti Or police gopro videos, can't forget those
@hayd3ni Жыл бұрын
Chocolate rain
@Ihavpickle Жыл бұрын
Tay, you're a cutie patootie. Thank you for being in the comment section of random geopolitical videos
@Interdictiondeltawing Жыл бұрын
the legendary chocolate rain guy appeared ❤️🔥🔥
@VictorSilva-qf2tu Жыл бұрын
Musashi took 19 torpedoes and still took hours more to sink. It's impressive.
@crimeon1782 Жыл бұрын
While still maintaining a decent speed, which would result in heavier flooding, it could’ve been longer had it the chance to slow down
@sayhallo3769 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Americans really helped her counterflooding operations lol
@scottgiles7546 Жыл бұрын
@@sayhallo3769 It seems someone was taking notes as they did better on the Yamato....
@antoniocarrascosa6060 Жыл бұрын
Y un montón de bombas
@Warmaker01 Жыл бұрын
@@sayhallo3769 Yes. The USN saw what happened with Musashi and learned from it. When it came time to sink Yamato in April 1945, far less ordnance was expended to sink her compared to Musashi. Yamato was eating focused hits mostly to one side, whereas Musashi was getting hit all around. The focused attacks overwhelmed damage control and counterflooding efforts on Yamato.
@alexanderf8451 Жыл бұрын
This really shows why carriers ultimately made battleships impossible to use. Musashi had incredible range and power with its guns but never even had the chance to see the carriers that destroyed it.
@fakshen1973 Жыл бұрын
19 torpedo hits in exchange for a handful of pilots and small aircraft. You cannot sustain that exchange as an island nation reliant on imports.
@XMysticHerox Жыл бұрын
A big part of it was how relatively ineffective AA was at the time.
@Cailus3542 Жыл бұрын
Not impossible to use, exactly, just more difficult. The problem for the Japanese was that the Pacific is perfect for carrier operations: ideal weather, vast expanses of ocean, etc. In the Atlantic, North Sea and Med, battleships were much more effective. In the Pacific, against a country that had an absurd number of carriers, the Japanese battleships were almost helpless.
@gimmethegepgun Жыл бұрын
@@Cailus3542 Yet no one saw any need to build a battleship after WW2 (HMS Vanguard was the last, launched in 1944 and commissioned in 1946), and only the 4 Iowa-class survived past 1962, but plenty of carriers were built.
@Cailus3542 Жыл бұрын
@@gimmethegepgun Nobody built any new battleships because there was no need. The US had ten fast battleships, the British had five, and the French had two. They were all relatively new (the oldest only came into service in 1940) and, since the Soviets had no surface navy to speak of, all perfectly adequate going into the 1950's. Two technologies doomed battleships: jet aircraft and missiles. Jets were much more difficult to defend against, as were missiles. More, missiles outranged any battleship gun and could be mounted on a much cheaper platform. Even then, battleships weren't entirely useless, but became more so as time passed.
@CanopyFlyer150 Жыл бұрын
The Birmingham was NOT the first ship that came along side the Princeton to render aid. Two other smaller ships, whose names escape me at the moment, attempted to assist one after the other, but were battered by the larger Princeton. Birmingham was built on the same hull (Cleveland class) as the Princeton (Independence Class), so she could remain alongside without being battered about. My uncle was aboard the Birmingham and was killed in the Princeton blast. Family history says he died on a hospital ship afterward, but there is some doubt about the truth of that.
@S0RGEx Жыл бұрын
Irwin (DD-974) and Morrison (DD-560)
@jacqueschouette7474 Жыл бұрын
My sainted father was on the Birmingham. Like most of the other men not involved in fighting the fire, he was watching damage control fight the fires until something told him to go below. After he did so, the Princeton blew up. During the war, the Birmingham was damaged by a kamikaze off Okinawa and hit by bombs off Bougainville, but my father always said that the closest the ship ever got to sinking was when the Princeton blew up.
@garystu9878 Жыл бұрын
@@S0RGExAlso, USS Gatling (DD-671)
@earlhuff7847 Жыл бұрын
I do find errors occasionally in their videos but I think it is because they generalize sometimes. The important or key moments in the battle have great detail and are accurate but the smaller or not as important parts are generalized. At least that is what I have attributed it to. Still the best animation and explanations of battles on You Tube
@failtolawl Жыл бұрын
false
@VictorSilva-qf2tu Жыл бұрын
It's incredible how much the animation has evolved in this channel.
@Yawnz2 Жыл бұрын
Ikr...even back then i was impressed. These guys just keep improving!
@Mithinco Жыл бұрын
Right?! The mapping got more detail
@DiviAugusti Жыл бұрын
“American, Australian, Philippino, and Mexican units will take part in the liberation of the Philippines.” What a squad that is.
@just9911 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how awesome a party that group could throw…
@migol15-21 Жыл бұрын
The Aztec Eagles!
@ANG-249 Жыл бұрын
Mexicans liberating the Sea Mexicans
@warrenklein7817 Жыл бұрын
Australian Army was excluded by MacArthur, to remain in New Guinea and takeover in Solomons. RAAF and RAN are not excluded.
@CesarinPillinGaming Жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same. I have no information that any Mexican army set foot anywhere. Supposedly they only offered help via cargo ships and some air units with obsolete ships.
@ramblingsofadash5159 Жыл бұрын
Never stop. Besides Montemayor you are by far the most in depth battle channel on KZbin (sorry bazbattles :c). Even as a huge WW2 buff, you still show me things I have forgotten or never heard of battles of ww2. Seriously thank you. You are doing the world a service by educating people. Please never stop educating people.
@Warmaker01 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Montemayor also does fantastic stuff but he rarely puts out videos. I view his stuff as soon as it goes live.
@si2foo Жыл бұрын
@@Warmaker01 yeah his are just the best
@si2foo Жыл бұрын
bazbattles really is meh for this kind of thing.
@questionmark05 Жыл бұрын
If you like naval history, Drachinifel is very good. World War two in real time, is good for overall ww2 history.
@WilliamLaurenson Жыл бұрын
Kings and Generals does good stuff too. They have an entire playlist on the pacific theatre and it is currently still being updated.
@RoyalOps1222 Жыл бұрын
My Grandpa was in this fight, he was a TBF Avenger pilot. He was onboard the St. Lo as it was struck by the kamikaze, he was wounded but saved a few sailors from the ensuing fires. Thanks for giving this battle some airtime.
@b.a6525 Жыл бұрын
cap
@creatorsfreedom6734 Жыл бұрын
sadly nothing more than a janitor
@mikeymike9926 Жыл бұрын
No he wasn’t
@giotto_4503 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite naval battles in history. The sheer firepower shown in this battle was immense.
@ialsoagree1634 Жыл бұрын
My favorite fact about this entire engagement is that the engagement with Southern Force, the Battle of Surigao Strait - which was the last engagement between battleships in history - involved multiple battleships that had been sunk or damaged at Pearl Harbor. USS West Virginia was sunk in shallow water, USS Maryland was damaged by Japanese bombs, USS Tennessee received minor damage, USS California sank when it's electrical system failed and it could not pump out water from 2 torpedo hits, and USS Pennsylvania suffered only minor damage as she was in dry dock at the time and not in Battleship Row. Those 4 battleships represent 4 of the 5 US battleships that engaged Southern Force.
@250R1983lover Жыл бұрын
Also allowed the liberation of Layte to take place. We must not forget!
@nicksmth33 Жыл бұрын
Everytime i hear this story i always think about the 2 little ships USS Johnston and USS Samuel B Robert’s and how hard those little tough guys fought. They did the job the best they could. Nobody can disagree! Edit | Yes the air attack did an amazing job and was most damaging to the fleet. i just enjoy the imagination of seeing 2 tiny brave ships just firing their asses off against massive behemoths.
@M167A1 Жыл бұрын
Since they entered the depths there have been zero Godzilla attacks. Word on the street is he's hiding out in the Himalayas and won't go near the water.
@axly27 Жыл бұрын
The anniversary of the Battle of Samar is Oct 25th. Coming up quick. Maybe there's another Operations Room video due out about then?!
@lovelessissimo Жыл бұрын
Thanks to Drach, they will be immortal.
@Canadianvoice Жыл бұрын
I think about how Japan had to basically deal with those odds every single battle
@jackthedragon612 Жыл бұрын
The destroyer and destroyer escort that fought like battleships.
@Warmaker01 Жыл бұрын
The actions and performance of the Japanese aviators in the halfway mark of the video is a stark contrast to earlier in the war where the IJN air force was experienced and competent. But the combat of 1942 did a horrible number of attrition against them and their expertise went away. 1942 saw 3 Carrier Duels: Coral Sea, Midway, Eastern Solomons, Santa Cruz Islands all happened that year. Navy pilots flying out of Rabaul, flying the long distance to Guadalcanal and back suffered heavy losses. It was so bad for IJN aviation that they spent 1943 and half of 1944 to replace their losses. But then the Battle of the Philippine Sea happened in mid-1944, the "Marianas Turkey Shoot" where Japan lost an absurd amount of aircraft and aircrew losses. The losses are so extensive that Japanese naval aviation would no longer be a key factor anymore for later in the war... The US just didn't know it at the time. It was so bad that no Japanese carrier would operate with a full air group for the rest of the war. So by the time we get to late 1944 where the Battle of Leyte Gulf happens, the performance of these pilots aren't a surprise anymore.
@Wolfeson28 Жыл бұрын
The different approaches of both navies to their experienced pilots played a huge role in that transition. In the USN, many of their most experienced pilots, such as squadron commanders, were rotated out of frontline roles after those early 1942 battles and sent home to train the waves of new pilots. So by 1943/44, the USN was fielding huge numbers of new squadrons, filled by pilots who had received those hard-won combat lessons from their veteran instructors, and commanded by other veterans of those early battles who had moved up the ranks since then. On the other hand, experienced Japanese pilots were almost never rotated home - variations of "fly until you die" became common sayings among those pilots. So those flyers were never able to pass on their experience to new pilots, who in turn were being rushed through shorter and shorter training programs in a desperate attempt to provide the necessary numbers to replace losses.
@laflaca4362 Жыл бұрын
Honestly it's kind of sad lol like part of me is hopeful that they put up somewhat of a fight, but they just get annihilated
@abdiganiaden Жыл бұрын
The hubris from Japanese supremacy ideology blinded them so much they threw away their men like they are mosquitoes
@julianlora_ Жыл бұрын
The Japanese forces' general mentality of dishonor or die lost them more casualties than was necessary.
@warwatcher91 Жыл бұрын
Bad part is that they didn't even get a break in 1943. The carriers may have been out of action, but their air groups weren't. In 1943, on multiple occasions they were sent in to reinforce their land based counter parts in the Solomon Islands. They fought hard, but died in the process. the dive and torpedo bombers. The fighters didn't fare much better. The Japanese Carrier Air Groups had to be rebuilt twice before 1944 even rolled around. Philippine Sea was just the logical endpoint.
@ShastaDoktorG Жыл бұрын
At 9:56, you mention that a Hell Diver from the Intrepid spotted the ships in the Sebuyan Sea. This was my grandfather (tail gunner) and his pilot. He took photographs of the undamaged Yamato. I thought they dove on it and missed, but that may have been later. Regardless, for the photos he took (that still survive and are published) and for other actions in Leyte, he was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross. It is one of my most prized possessions and touring the Intrepid in New York is on my bucket list. Thanks for the vid.
@jamesw131310 ай бұрын
Much respect to your Grandfather, all those men went out and got the job done.
@Weegee246 Жыл бұрын
It really does show how much Americas air supremacy played in their victory against Kurita. The Destroyers of Taffy 3 did a legendary job defending their Jeep Carriers in the face of overwhelming odds but they couldn't have driven off Kurita's Fleet without the support off the carriers and pilots they were helping to defend.
@OneEyedJack01 Жыл бұрын
Taffy 3 made the ultimate sacrifice that wouldn't have been necessary if Halsey hadn't abandoned the landings in his reckless pursuit of glory and carrier hunting.
@TheSchultinator Жыл бұрын
@@OneEyedJack01It's Halsey's action here and sailing his fleet through *2* typhoons that really make me question his abilities, at least by late war.
@abdiganiaden Жыл бұрын
@@OneEyedJack01 taking out carriers is way more valuable in strategic level, who cares about ground game before that’s accomplished
@recoil53 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSchultinator I don't question his abilities at all. I believe his abilities topped out at Task Group commander. Admiral King saved him by saying it would be bad for US morale to court marshal Halsey, but the solution to that is to send him on a tour of the US to raise money for war bonds.
@Weegee246 Жыл бұрын
That's is true. Kurita's fleet likely wouldn't have gotten as far as they did without Ozawa's decoy force luring TF38 up north to Cape Engaño. Halsey just couldn't resist the urge to hunt down those decoy carriers for the sake of glory.@@OneEyedJack01
@Vail12345 Жыл бұрын
Knowing that Samar and Surigao Strait vids are coming makes me so happy. Well done!
@SerRompalot Жыл бұрын
I eagerly await Samar, those destroyers fought like battleships that day.
@laisy961 Жыл бұрын
@@SerRompalot I still love the fact one Japanese battleship captain (Kongo's I think) insisted they were fighting against battleships that day until he was corrected. (And he is also the one to call them "destroyers who fought like battleships" IIRC)
@KhabarovVictor Жыл бұрын
@7:04 "Darter fires all TEN of its BOW torpedoes" Later fires +4 aft ones I think there is a mistake. Gato-class had 10 torpedoes loaded in total, 6 bow and 4 aft, not 10 bow and 4 aft
@CaseyCollier Жыл бұрын
The Battle off Samar is my favorite naval battle of WWII. No questions asked. I'm sure other people may favor other battles in the war for their significance, but to me, the story surrounding those tin can sailors is still my favorite. I can't get it out of my mind when someone brings up Leyte Gulf.
@binbiwashere8739 Жыл бұрын
So many ships, so many islands and so much firepower! This is a way too big battle in to cover in a single video! I'll be waiting for the episode 2! You're doing awesome!!
@PleiadesRuby Жыл бұрын
Two submarine captains talking thru megaphones is killing me. They're just hanging out
@rougehawk Жыл бұрын
6:25 REALLY cool diving animation!
@christophermeekhof2194 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for spreading history to the public in a way they, and I, can more easily understand. If I may suggest, and I may not be alone here, can you possibly put date/time stamps on your videos? You already make these events in history fairly easy to follow, but seeing the dates and times can also help link your separate animations. Thank you!
@SoloRenegade Жыл бұрын
It actually makes sense how the center force later reacts to Taffy 3 from this perspective. The force has been harassed constantly all the way to target, 3 cruisers lost, one super battleship lost, being continuously attacked by air power coming from their target area. Why then would it be so surprising that they later mistake the US escort carriers and destroyers for the main US fleet as they are surely weary and cautious after the beating they've been subjected to all the way to target?
@desertdude8274 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Even if they decided to press on the Carrier fleets can just launch a couple more strikes and it wouldn't even slow down the USN even a little bit.
@thenumbah1birdman Жыл бұрын
The main issue is that due to weather issues, Ozawa's message that he had successfully lured away Halsey did not reach Kurita until late into the engagement off Samar. Without this knowledge Kurita assumed he was facing one of Halsey's CV groups.
@SoloRenegade Жыл бұрын
@@thenumbah1birdman good point
@artbrann Жыл бұрын
and based on how spread out they were, even if they completely wiped out Taffy 3, Taffy 1 and 2 were close enough that their planes were in the fight and their destroyers and destroyer escorts could well have been the next wave
@thenumbah1birdman Жыл бұрын
@@artbrann Haruna had actually sighted Taffy 2 and had begun to target their escorts when Kurita gave the order to head north to regroup. Kurita did not know a second carrier group had been taken under fire due to communication issues.
@mbhinkle Жыл бұрын
Wow, TheOperationsRoom's videos just keep getting better and better. Beautiful maps, graphics, and excellent narrating .
@malickfan7461 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this! I’ve always wanted someone to make an animation of this battle.
@andrewvanatta1569 Жыл бұрын
A minor correction at 7:05 is needed. USS Darter had six bow torpedo tubes, not ten.
@autophaga4068 Жыл бұрын
The torpedo hits part are kinda satisfying to watch. It's not like reading plain article on topic matter.
@nanionichan2110 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this! Greetings from Leyte, leyte.
@thecheezybleezy7036 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the use of real-time animations in play with the map. It adds a nice sense of depth. Consistently on par 👌
@NotTheCIA1961 Жыл бұрын
You can really feel the hype when the torpedos are coming in.
@McLarenKeith Жыл бұрын
1 MILLION SUBS! Congrats! I just tweeted you because it ticked over as I subscribed haha. Well done Ops Room!
@lukeubamos7446 Жыл бұрын
We deserve another episode on this one. Looking forward to it!
@larcoal2963 Жыл бұрын
Incredible narrative. Thanks once again.
@masacio Жыл бұрын
Thank you for finally covering Leyte Gulf. I've been waiting to see your in depth, unit by unit coverage of this naval batter. I hope we see the rest of it in the next or following videos, no matter how many they take. Thank you again.
@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Жыл бұрын
It is nothing short of remarkable how much punishment Musashi endured before succumbing. She took more hits/near misses than all eight Pearl Harbor Battleships combined did in that attack. That she maintained much of her speed throughout the damage while a fair amount of her crew survived her sinking is also a testament to her endurance and the skills of her commander.
@laisy961 Жыл бұрын
Her size probably helped too, since there were more compartments to contain the flooding, delaying her sinking.
@Cailus3542 Жыл бұрын
The Yamato-class battleships are arguably the toughest warships ever built, even to modern day. I can't imagine any other ship that could take such a pounding, not even Vanguard or the Bismarck's. The Yamato's had flaws, especially in terms of technology, but Japanese engineering managed something special with those two ships.
@apersondoingthings5689 Жыл бұрын
@@Cailus3542 USS Nevada and us battle ships enter the chat
@failtolawl Жыл бұрын
@@apersondoingthings5689 No.
@apersondoingthings5689 Жыл бұрын
@@failtolawl bro, Nevada survived two nukes in which it was the main target. The ship shrugged it off and more. It was literally immortal. The thing survive two nukes, many torpedoes, 16 super heavy ap shells, multiple attempt scuttling, they had to basically deconstruct the ship in order to sink it. Even then she just refused to go down for a while
@siennavanlife9502 Жыл бұрын
Was literally playing World of Warships a few minutes ago in Musashi, thinking about this battle... then saw that about the same time, you posted this!! Too cool!
@dantauche7917 Жыл бұрын
US air pilots were/(are?) Absolute legends. 2 8 kill days for McCandles alone. That is astounding. Salute to you sir
@_Wombat Жыл бұрын
I really just feel for the Japanese guys in those planes. You just know they had absolutely no chance. And they knew it.
@kitkun7669 Жыл бұрын
@@_Wombat I know it's war and it's likely they would have found the nerve to engage if they hadn't been shot down, but... damn. Fear made them entirely defenseless.
@russell7852 Жыл бұрын
Im happy to he a supporter in the subscription to the discord channel. I didnt give any input but the community picked an excellent battle to have animated.
@chilaxin09 Жыл бұрын
That day on Musashi must’ve been absolute hell for that crew.
@kostakatsoulis2922 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah battle off Samar operations room breakdown FINALLY!!!!! Btw those are some absolutely awesome shellburst animations, and the Musashi rolling was impeccavle, too! Only gets better every video!
@Xblue72X Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the Battle off Samar. Taffy 3 and its destroyers are one of the greatest stories of WW2.
@danielpetrucci8952 Жыл бұрын
Samuel B Roberts lays 33,000 feet down in the Pacific Ocean may she rest in peace
@lazygameratn9863 Жыл бұрын
Ever since I started watching The Operations Room, I have been hoping to see them cover Leyte Gulf, especially Samar, and finally the day has come. Excellent first video, and looking forward to the rest, as well as the videos on The Intel Report!
@wyattengel6725 Жыл бұрын
I must say, I've never seen a Hellcat fly backwards before (10:53) but I do find that funny ^^ luv the vids!
@xaraxen Жыл бұрын
Some say Hellcats can indeed do that
@JonathanLundkvist Жыл бұрын
I was wondering where The Intel Reports companion video was. Glad to see it!
@mek1429 Жыл бұрын
probably a mistake about USS Darter firing “10 bow torpedoes” since Gato class subs only have 6 bow tubes
@diestormlie Жыл бұрын
But they also have four aft tubes; so firing the bow tubes, immediately rotating 180° and firing the aft tubes would give a combined salvo size of ten torpedos. Edit: But yes, '10 Bow Torpedos' is in error, unless they weld some torpedos to the exterior. :P
@daniellarge9784 Жыл бұрын
Total 10. 6 bow and 4 aft. He was in error saying 10 bow torpedos. No big deal. We all understood. Great presentation.
@TheIndianalain Жыл бұрын
I read a lot about the campaign for Leyte Gulf in general and the battle of Sibuyan sea in particular, but watching an animated depiction of it put my comprehension of the events to another level. Great stuff! Can't wait for the next episodes, the battle of Surigao strait and the desperate and incredibly brave defense of Taffy III at the battle off Samar!
@dennyjack3rd Жыл бұрын
Mexico in ww2? Had to pause and read up about them. Awesome!
@migol15-21 Жыл бұрын
Fuerza Aérea Expedicionaria Mexicana, 201st Squadron, the Aztec Eagles.
@ramondemesa4057 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting so long for an animated analysis of this battle!! Thank you so much!.
@dajuanvariste4751 Жыл бұрын
Babe! Wake up..operations room posted 😤
@kylebarnes3029 Жыл бұрын
Battle at the Chosin Resevoir would be an awesome video. Thanks for all you do Op. Room.
@1207rorupar Жыл бұрын
3:18 yesss! Mexican Expeditionary Air Force 201st Squadron!
@canaanclb Жыл бұрын
And thus begins one of the most epic naval battles of the ages. Glad to finally see you do this!
@tng2057 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Leyte Gulf Battles must be told by map animation as they are so complicated and spread out and I think this one is the first of such kind. I think for the IJN Southern Force you forgot to mention the ‘Shima Fleet’ which was in parallel to the Mitsumura Fleet. Hope the part 2 video would cover this.👏 ERROR: Mitsumura shall read Nishimura.😮
@oliverhughes610 Жыл бұрын
For those curious, there was a Mexican fighter squadron (the 201st) that served on the land campaign. They didn't start combat operations until June 1945, though, months after this battle. The panic and withdrawal of those first Japanese aircraft from Luzon are a perfect example of the impact of proper leadership and experience. They had more than enough aircraft to overwhelm the Americans there if they were organised properly. Although the Japanese AA guns were hilariously ineffective, the loss of the 3 heavy cruisers in the submarine action prior does also make one wonder of the impact of their guns - they had some 250 between them. Perhaps at least a few more casualties on the planes that pummelled Musashi into oblivion.
@ronnelson7828 Жыл бұрын
Darter did not "fire all ten of it's bow torpedoes". Six bow torpedoes, then four stern torpedoes. Ten torpedoes in total.
@Reignor99 Жыл бұрын
1:17 the beeping from incoming torpedoes increased my heartrate
@Gry101 Жыл бұрын
The Balao and Gato class subs only had a TOTAL of 10 torpedo tubes. Six in the bow and four in the stern. Neither Darter or Dace have 10 tubes in the bow.
@WushuMR2 Жыл бұрын
I've wanted SOMEONE to do a video on this battle for so long! Thank you!!!
@Crushnaut Жыл бұрын
11:00 VF 15 and 44 moonwalking into battle
@nsein001 Жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this battle to be shown on this channel. Thank you.
@failtolawl Жыл бұрын
This is a battle which is just so complex and large scale that this really is the best way to learn about it, thank you for your time and effort.
@JDWidhalm Жыл бұрын
My grandfather fought as part of Taffy 2 off to the West of Taffy 3 in the Battle off Samar. Knowing that it, as well as Surigao are clearly coming with your level of production and research is a dream coming true. Thank you for filling the void that the History Channel used to be able to engage
@geofreycrow9663 Жыл бұрын
Those last words from the captain of the Musashi. Badass
@Philip_of_Santos Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you mention that the Philippines was an 'imperial possession' of the United States since they were hailed as liberators when MacArthur and his forces arrived in Leyte in October 1944. This is not surprising since the Filipinos have high regard for the Americans since the latter have already promised the Philippines its independence through the Tydings-McDuffie Act of 1934 and adapted or influenced by the U.S. way of life, primarily through the use of the English language in public school education. In addition, the Filipinos, at that time, had a deep hatred for the I.J.A. due to the atrocities they committed during their three-year occupation. Back to the term "imperial possession," I remember my professor at U.S.T. in Manila (a nationalist prof compared to me) argued that we, Filipinos, should not label MacArthur’s return not as liberation but a reconquest of the Philippines by the U.S. from the Japanese. Anyhow, that's my short take and Cheers from the Philippines, and I will continue to support this channel till the very end.
@modest_spice6083 Жыл бұрын
IMO it's a liberation alright. The Americans gave us total independence in 1946, fulfilling their promise. That would never happen under Japanese rule.
@Philip_of_Santos Жыл бұрын
@@modest_spice6083 that’s why I said it was my perspective of my prof, I’m not that dumb to believe that crap
@DarkFriday1408 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always! It was amazing to see how well built and gargantuan Musashi was, considering all the hits she took, how much water she took on and that it still took the ship hours to sink. It was also interesting to see that the Japanese ploy worked, because as soon as Halsey heard that the Japanese aircraft carriers are coming, he raced towards them. If the Center Force would have not been discovered, perhaps the Japanese attack might have succeeded or at least inflicted heavier casualties on the American forces.
@yakovbrod9992 Жыл бұрын
I always wonder how is the anti air so ineffective? Thumb up if you ever wondered the same thing!
@submachinegun5737 Жыл бұрын
Hitting the aircraft was super hard. All the issues of marksmanship with range, leading the target, etc. and also the fuses would have to be manually timed in order to detonate near the plane. Even then the planes were designed to survive the fire pretty well and could take a few good hits to down. The use of the proximity fuse by the US helped a lot but still the amount of rounds it took to kill one plane was huge.
@kassthered8452 Жыл бұрын
The Japanese had famously terrible AA, meanwhile the Americans where slinging out radar guided proximity detonation rounds xD
@legoeasycompany Жыл бұрын
@@submachinegun5737 there's also that Japan lacked that intermediate AA that other navies had like the Bofor's 40mm. AA works best when you can saturate an area with overlapping fields of fire and the more overlap the higher the chances of hits, the 25mm and 127mms couldn't do so and there a bit of a gap between their ranges that leaves wide areas open. The Shattered Sword book about midway has a really good indepth description on the issues IJN AA had
@sayhallo3769 Жыл бұрын
Japanese were inaccurate and had no radar guiding their AA
@yakovbrod9992 Жыл бұрын
@@kassthered8452 how did Japanese AA compare to Germans?
@Draythur Жыл бұрын
love the new sinking animations, you continue to set a new standard here on youtube, splendid work!
@mapachin_escenarios3 Жыл бұрын
Hermano, me gusta crear escenarios personalizados en Empire Earth, tus videos son una fuente de información muy valiosa ❤
@michaelgabriel7919 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your productions. I'm a amateur historian... and I have watched more than a few of your videos... and I've been impressed every time. There are a lot of similar works out here on the web... but few can compare with your work.
@718Insomniac Жыл бұрын
Just wow! First time hearing about this battle. How about that lone Japanese bomber going for a solo run! I wonder what he was thinking. Did he get seperated? Was he pissed off? Was this a "last flight" for him? He took out a Carrier by himself! What are the odds?! That encounter really stuck with me. Amazing work and content! Big props as always.
@_Wombat Жыл бұрын
It's crazy isn't it. The contrast between that and Musashi who took an inordinate amount of hits to sink. What also surprised me was the death-toll on the Birmingham, that must have been a crazy large explosion, I assume it was the pressure wave which killed most.
@718Insomniac Жыл бұрын
@@_Wombat yeah, that over pressure must of been a killer knock out. And seriously, 19 bombs on one battleship! If that isn't considered a "boss" battle, I don't know what is. Im happy we get to learn of these unimaginable events that are either pure luck, or some insane skills. Like that Japanese bomber must of been wearing plot armor that day. Haha, cheers man.
@klekaelly Жыл бұрын
The Japanese were known for their dedication and self-sacrifice. I'm just amazed that one bomb was able to destroy the entire ship!
@JackRabbitSlim Жыл бұрын
Yeah I wonder whatever became of that plane and its pilot/s? To be the only aircraft to reach the carrier group, to then single handedly sink an entire aircraft carrier with one bomb, such a thing deserves recognition. Did they ever get to learn of their success, did they make it back to their base, were they awarded medals for what they did?
@718Insomniac Жыл бұрын
@@JackRabbitSlim yeah man, so many questions. Crazy set of events. It was a really big "score" for that pilot after all. Did he get recognized for it. Does he even know what he did?! Haha. Mostly I wanna know how he felt, what was he thinking, and why was he alone.
@urbypilot2136 Жыл бұрын
I was a highschool student in Leyte back when the 50th anniversary of the Liberation of Leyte was commemorated. There was a lot of activities in our town in Leyte, as it was historically the center of Imperial Japanese Army operations in Leyte back in WW2. One of the largest beach heads was made on our town in October 1944.
@samadams2203 Жыл бұрын
Imagine the battle if TF 34 had been left at the San Bernadino Strait.
@mbryson2899 Жыл бұрын
Admiral Lee could have scalped another battleship or three.
@ph89787 Жыл бұрын
@@mbryson2899he’d be responsible of the near single-handed extinction of the Kongo-Class Battleships/Battlecruisers.
@alexanderf8451 Жыл бұрын
The world wonders.
@issacfoster1113 Жыл бұрын
New Jersey Vs Yamato duking it out
@apersondoingthings5689 Жыл бұрын
@@issacfoster1113 that’s not much of a fight, the New Jersey would have done nothing. The aircraft would have ripped Yamato apart before
@computertoucher7557 Жыл бұрын
Idk why but I feel like I have a crippling addiction to this channel😂😂😂. Everytime I see a post, I disregard the rest of my priorities and watch this.
@Warmaker01 Жыл бұрын
The real kicker is that after Kurita decided to cancel his withdrawal and push on again, scouts from USS Independence spotted them and reported them. Yet the command hierarchy of the USN at Leyte Gulf failed to take that new report into account and pound Center Force again with another airstrike. And somehow, a Japanese surface force devoid of air cover and reconaissance, shows up to play at Samar. With the absolute superiority of the US Navy in this battle, that should have never happened.
@thenumbah1birdman Жыл бұрын
It was far too late for the US to launch an airstrike on Kurita by the time USS Independence had spotted them (it was dark out-Independence only spotted them because it was one of the few CVs that could do nighttime operations)-an airstrike wouldn't have been needed anyway had Halsey stopped 'playing by the book' and split his forces then and left Ching Lee to do what he did best at San Bernardino Strait, instead of splitting his forces after a perceived slight from Nimitz and thereby missing the chance to totally annihilate either force he was engaged with during the battle. Kinkaid should have also been more vigilant instead of relying on eavesdropping for his assurances on Halsey.
@reyesmarlon5805 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great coverage of the Sibuyan Sea and Palawan Passage battles. Waiting for the next installments. Surigao Strait, Samar, and Cape Engano. And how the world wondered.
@vitamarmite Жыл бұрын
The fact musashi took such a beating is a testment to how well she was built.
@modest_spice6083 Жыл бұрын
Hardly took down any aircraft, which is a testament on how shit its and its escort ships' anti-air defenses were.
@abdiganiaden Жыл бұрын
Battleships we’re obsolete by then, just a waste of resources on giant hunk of useless metal.
@alexanderf8451 Жыл бұрын
The irony of the last great battleships and dreadnoughts is that they were obsolete before they were even built even if no one knew it. Over in the European theater Bismark was crippled by Swordfish torpedo bombers, biplanes!
@yoseipilot Жыл бұрын
@@abdiganiaden No, not really. They need carrier’s as escort, it can take hit and bombed these Islands faster at the same time. Also shooting down these enemy aircraft as well.
@BarryAllen__1A23 Жыл бұрын
@@yoseipilotYes really. Aircraft carriers can do many things a battleship cant. CV's can establish air dominance, can threaten an enemy fleet in ranges that neither fleets can see each other and most importantly they can bomb key targets much more accurate and much farther than the BB's can. They are indeed a waste of resources as soon as the CV's came into service.
@therenegade1680 Жыл бұрын
i want to believe i requested this into existence over a year ago lol, thanks Operations room! ❤
@Thirdbase9 Жыл бұрын
Am i Leyte?
@infamousfalcon588 Жыл бұрын
This took me a minute
@shotsfired_dk Жыл бұрын
Damn you... 3 minutes and I was still beat to it... as it happens this means I was Leyte too
@mishmosh1984 Жыл бұрын
Better Leyte than never
@danielpetrucci8952 Жыл бұрын
I'm super Leyte
@fearthehoneybadger Жыл бұрын
@@mishmosh1984Better never Leyte.
@gosborg Жыл бұрын
Yes, another great naval action to cover.
@sebastiancorleone Жыл бұрын
Better Leyte than never 😮😅
@OBJ317 Жыл бұрын
OPS!!!! My man! 25 minutes of bliss ahead, I’ll be in tune once my shift starts tonight. Instead of tweeting, I decided to leave a comment on this video! I’ll tweet ya when I’m done with it later during my overnight! 1M soon!!!
@sultanofsick Жыл бұрын
It seems like in every other WWII naval battle I have learned about, 1-3 hits is all it takes to sink a ship. Especially if it's torpedoes. As the video progressed, I was becoming more and more baffled why the American pilots kept "wasting" munitions on a "dead" ship instead of trying to take out another. And then only half a day later did the Musashi finally die. After THIRTY SEVEN hits.
@OBJ317 Жыл бұрын
Just finished. You never cease to amaze me. Thanks again guys.
@hawkerhellfire9152 Жыл бұрын
Taffy 3 next?👀
@thenumbah1birdman Жыл бұрын
Surigao next.
@steyrproof Жыл бұрын
This channel is awesome. Another masterpiece !
@bdh985 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing car and an even more amazing drive! Honestly, the sights, sounds and even emotions and excitement of driving this treasure were perfectly demonstrated in this video! Thanks for this absolute treat, Jodie!
@Knuck_Knucks Жыл бұрын
Ha. Wrong video I'm thinking... 😂
@syferpolski4344 Жыл бұрын
Or a bot gaining reputation @@Knuck_Knucks
@dagger1-140 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are simply fantastic. I await the next one!
@stoogemoedude Жыл бұрын
Is this a new series on leyte gulf?
@lagboi4539 Жыл бұрын
I hope it is. Wasn't there 4 different battles in Leyte Gulf?
@matthewhecht9257 Жыл бұрын
@@lagboi4539 Yes unless you count Palawan Passage (which they already covered) as 5.
@stoogemoedude Жыл бұрын
@@lagboi4539ya: Sibuyan, surigao, cape engano, and samar.
@lagboi4539 Жыл бұрын
@@stoogemoedude Thanks! I was only familiar with Battle of Samar and now with Battle of Sibuyan Sea. I'll look into the others too.
@stoogemoedude Жыл бұрын
@matthewhecht9257 eh you could probably lump Palawan and Sibuyan together
@spamielson Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JGD_CZE Жыл бұрын
I really hope to see more Leyte Gulf videos. Maybe even my second most favourite ship battle (after Midway) - Battle Off Samar
@RICHARDSIMMONS.tRICKy Жыл бұрын
As a veteran of Silent Service II, I am deeply disappointed that you didn't show U.S.S. Dace, an old favourite from many long stalking hours shadowing fleets like this, & on radar too at times, firing the stern tubes! This is in the manner of so many encounters of my own! Also, what a dream setup, but it also demonstrates just how rampant U.S.A. subs' were this late in the war. Sitting around chatting on megaphones indeed!
@Rohilla313 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this excellent presentation My late uncle used to give me lectures about this titanic battle when I was barely ten years old. I once met a group of naval cadets who were studying at Annapolis and they told me they never heard of this battle. I was flabbergasted.
@arctic4299 Жыл бұрын
I'm getting on point with timing my breaks with your releases
@williamwiese996311 күн бұрын
My Grandfather helped fight the fires on the Princtonfrom the decks of USS Birmingham and witnessed the explosion on the starboard side and he caught a piece of japanese marked pipe union in the bicep of his arm. He said the blood was so thick on the deck that they had to pour sand on the decks for walking traction. Love that man.
@TheMumbles Жыл бұрын
I just finished readying up about the battles around Leyte and saw this video Thank you and well done
@MegaLokun Жыл бұрын
This channel is a dream.
@NylaDDK Жыл бұрын
Gotte love the 2 airplanes flying backwards at 11:00
@WilliamLaurenson Жыл бұрын
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SO LONG! Thank you :DD
@conradnelson5283 Жыл бұрын
My uncle was in this battle. I really love hearing about it. Thank you.
@alexv3357 Жыл бұрын
Finally! I've been waiting for a good overhead view of the Leyte Gulf for years. I love Drachinifel's video about the Battle off Samar but the lack of maps and animations makes it harder to follow
@usaf4ever1824 Жыл бұрын
I cannot wait for the Surigao Strait video. The last naval gun fight, the last crossing of the "T", Americans beating the Japanese at their own game (night fighting), Pearl Harbor survivor ships getting their revenge, etc.