Wood Turning Avoid Those Nasty Carbide Catches

[@MikeDooley]

Brand new turner, tried my first bowl today. It went awful, catch after catch. Google brought me here, and you got me sorted out real quick! Understand what I was doing wrong, thank you for a great explanation. I was doing the opposite with regards to tool rest height. Thanks again!

[@ThePapa1947]

Hi Mike and welcome to the world of wood turning. Understanding the geometry of what is going on is a good way to see what causes those catches. May your wood turning be catch free. But having them be rare is the best we can ask for. The wood it self can contribute to a catch no matter what. Have fun, Gary

[@SuperZmeister]

The king of common sense! Anyone either just starting out or a very seasoned turner will quickly understand what catches are and, by your instructions, avoid them. Thanks.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you. And for sure. Catches are common when first starting out. I think some might give up before figuring it out. Thanks for watching, Gayr

[@jonperley7304]

Im so glad I found this video when I was in high school my shop teacher had me visit the local Pattern shop Ipswich Pattern was the name of it and l almost went to Fitchburg college to learn Pattern making but it didn't happen I chose to be a mechanic instead but never lost my love for woodworking! Seeing that you were a Pattern maker brought back many memories of that shop I became good friends with the owner Jack Sweeney he taught me so much and let me use his WONDERFUL SHOP! on weekends and evenings sadly Jack passed away from cancer I'm so grateful to have him for a friend end his knowledge I also turned a 6 foot tabletop in his shop what a great experience now at 70 I'm still turning mostly live edge bowls and vases thank you for bringing back those memories Happy turning to you Gary from Happy Wood Turnings here in Ducklake Maine!👍

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Jon for an absolute wonderful story. I lived behind a pattern shop as a kid and did not know what they were doing but when I found out I decided I was going to be a pattern maker. Uncle Sam decided he wanted me for 2 years abut after that I followed my dream. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@B4TS1]

Thankyou for this video. I'll remember it by thinking of the summer temperatures when the air conditioner is on. Outside - high, inside - low

[@ThePapa1947]

Great idea!

[@lyndaowen2154]

My first carbide tools showed up today and I watched the lesson video. They sit with them, but yours has been a lot more informative and helpful. Thank you very much.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Lynda. Just how I learned how to use them. Have never seen a lesson on them. Which kind did you get? Thanks for watching, Gary

[@lyndaowen2154]

@@ThePapa1947 it was a very short video showing a bowl being turned. I did learn the differences between the round carbide and the square carbide but they did not show proper holding technique as yours did. I think, knowing the proper tool to use, and how to hold a position them are all very important lessons not just showing what they do which is basically all the video did. Like I said, yours was a lot more helpful to me at least.

[@KC-xr2tm]

I am new to turning. Thank you for showing me why I've been getting all those terrible catches.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you for watching KC. There is usually a good reason for catches and tool placement is a very important part of wood turning. Have fun turning! Gary

[@garymoulston8443]

Adding to my comment 9 days ago. Your advice on above centre on outside and below centre on the inside has helped my turning immensely. I have turned a couple of bowls and some spindle items since watching your video, thanks very much.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Gary that is great to hear! I know it can be frustrating when things work and then they don't. Glad it takes some of the mystery out of those catches. Have fun, Gary...from Oregon

[@4thfrom7]

The woodturning world is blessed to have people like you in it. Thank you for this.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very Jeremy I appreciate you watching and commenting, Gary

[@janeoverby2151]

Thanks Gary what a great teacher you are. I don't have any carbide tools yet I use my bowl gouges and scrapers figured if I learn with traditional tools I can get a couple of carbide

[@ACKSWOODPASTE]

Very good thinking Jane, thats the way to go about it!!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Jane. You are doing it the right way. Gouges are my choice but carbides can come in handy, Also your scrapers will act just like the carbides unless they are negative rake. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@ianbennet7408]

Thanks Gary Extremely informative video.... Thanks always enjoy your projects...the knotty pieces of wood with edge bark and lots of inclusions is my favorite projects to turn Ian Edmonton Canada It's cold here also

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks for watching Ian and I like those types of pieces as well. Working one right now. I am sure it is a lot colder up where you are at. Take care, Gary

[@tristangriner3001]

It’s definitely great to learn what not to do when it comes to woodturning. A catch will wake you up faster than a cup of coffee.

[@ThePapa1947]

You are so correct Tristan. I can remember a few catches on 4-6 foot turnings. The adrenalin rush is like a someone opened a fire hydrant. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@Jeff1Jeff2Jeff3Jeff]

Very interesting .. I would like to hear more about your pattern-turning-days ..

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Jeff. Here is a video I did at the my beginning of making videos. No talking but some cool pictures. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oprPZK2tnMhmhc0&ab_channel=ThePapa1947

[@gonzo1863]

Been getting catches inside my bowl with the carbide (brand new turner). Makes complete sense, thank you!!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you for watching and letting me know. Best of luck. Gary

[@garyp8471]

Thanks for the information on how to position the carbide tools, that's what i'm learning with carbide. Just the job thanks Gary. All the best from Lincolnshire UK

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Gary. Hope it helps. Nothing wrong using them either. I have never had anyone I gave a bowl to ask me if I used a gouge or a carbide cutter. Take care, Gary

[@roydass3597]

Thankyou for teaching be something I didn't know about placement of carbide chisels.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Roy. I find it the best way to avoid a catch with a carbide cutter. I appreciate you watching and commenting. Gary

[@randyjones2204]

Very good demonstration for carbide tools and catches. Thanks much.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Randy. Happy you enjoyed the video. Take care, Gary

[@williamellis8993]

Great info for the turners in your audience, Gary. Take care. Bill

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Bill, I thought about doing this a few years ago and there just has been a little more interest so I went ahead and did it. Plus it was fairly quick and it has been cold. It is 26 here this morning. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@mvecellio1]

Gary, that is a great explanation. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

[@ThePapa1947]

Very welcome and glad it was helpful. Gary

[@johnmaclauchlan8660]

I’m very much a beginner. Attempted to turn a small chestnut bowl this morning using carbides and HSS tools. I was quite pleased with myself until I had a massive catch whilst hollowing out and it broke the recess wall! No damage to me fortunately! This video came up without me even searching and I think you have shown where I went wrong. Makes so much sense the way you explain it. Thank you so very much!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you John for your comments. This has always worked for me. Others may have their ways but I do not recommend those to someone just starting out. Enjoy your turning and thanks for taking time to comment. Gary

[@johnmaclauchlan8660]

​@@ThePapa1947Thank you for your reply and much appreciated help!

[@skipflorey2511]

Gary, Wonderful bowl you turned. I enjoyed seeing it all done with carbide tools. The explanation of how the curve of the bowl relates to the tool position was superb.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Skip and thanks for watching. Gary

[@malcolm4200]

I have been pen turning for 4 years now using carbide tools only, and i still get catches especially on acrylics, so this information is going to come in really handy for me, Thank you so much, liked and subscribed. best wishes from Nova Scotia.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks Malcolm. Happy it helps Gary

[@markb8954]

Great explanation & the diagram really made it hit home. We use a mix of traditional tools & carbide tools & the more we (wife & I) turn the better we get. Then bam - a catch. Most of the Easy Wood Tool (carbide) information guides indicate tool placement as “slightly” above center. But now I see on the inside, slightly below center is needed & why. Thanks for the good demo. Nice little bowl too.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Mark. Yes all I have ever seen was on center of slightly above. The geometry tells me is should be slightly below on the inside. Have fun turning, Gary

[@JamesCouch777]

I'm a beginner and since I don't know what I'm doing this is very helpful. I've not had trouble with catching on the outside but terrible on the inside. Thank you 😊👍

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much. The geometry of the inside vs. the outside is totally different when it comes to tool placement. Happy it has helped. Gary

[@raydriver7300]

I thoroughly enjoy your videos Gary and I thank you for sharing. Another night when I go to bed less stupid. You asked me to let you know how I got on with the oak plank turned into a bowl: let’s just say it wasn’t a total failure. The glue lines show too much and I think my two year old glue is past its use by date. I have only been turning for two years and your teaching has helped me so much. If had had your name, my numbers would be 1949 🌞

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Ray. Well I bet when you get some new glue and give it another shot you will do much better. Oh yeah I remember 1949 very well LOL. Actually we were in the 1948 Vanport Oregon flood and the house floated down the river. I only have stories of it and my brother(13 years older) caring me out. We used to kid about that. We lost him last year but I like passing that story on. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@spiritwynd]

Thanks Gary! I'm going to have to try your technique the next time I use my carbides!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Heather and best of luck. Gary

[@michaelogden5958]

Good info. I've been turning for years with conventional tools. About a month ago, I decided to give "the dark side" a spin (pun not intended) with a Simple Shear Cutting Finisher Tool. I'm not yet convinced that it is "better", but I'm trying to give it a fair shake. I have to admit that I've seen some really nice pieces done with carbide tools. Cheers!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Michael. When I learned to turn all we really used were scrapers. I learned as an apprentice wood patternmaker. The scrapers we used were the best way to be able to turn to dimensions on a drawing that had to be exact. Plus bowl gouges were not a very common thing back then. The carbide tools are just scrapers on a smaller scale than what I used. I think there is a place for them for sure and I just call them another tool that I have access to. Happy turning my friend, Gary

[@timgarner]

Thanks Gary, You showed me something that I have had problems with now I know! I will be trying this in the future.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Tim. I hope it works great for you. I only go a little past center and showed it as a long way just to make it easier to see. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@davebenedum9253]

Thank you for the practical lesson in this video.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Dave I appreciate you watching and commenting. Happy it helped. Gary

[@radarthewoodturner8912]

Thank you Gary great information my favorite are the dizzy bowls stay safe friend👍👍👍👍

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Radar and I love to do dizzy bowls so I should think about doing another. They take a lot of hours for sure. Take care my friend, Gary

[@MarklTucson]

Very clear explanation. Thanks. There is a place for both traditional and carbide tools. I’ve found carbide works really well for resin and hybrid turning.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Mark, I do not turn resin but I do see most people use carbides for that. When turning the inside of Black Locust end grain I find it helpful as well. I did one once where I had to stop and go buy one of the small round negative rake carbide cutters to finish it. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@giuseppedibari]

One of the best piece of advice that I've seen from time ago. Thank you.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much. I know it is how I was taught years ago and it works for me.

[@garymoulston8443]

Thanks so much, I had trouble with catch’s on the inside of bowls now I know why, thanks again

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Gary. Happy it helped and have fun. Gary

[@ElliottSkorupa-dm2bz]

Perfect! It is the 3” wedges I am attempting, I will make angular adjustments as you recommend. thanks for your help. E

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you E. Just know you can take a piece or two out to help the joints close up. The angle becomes a compound angle whey you tilt the pieces. Gary

[@timothyhatch4985]

Ah that explains that catch on the inside... Too Big of a bite... Great Info Thanks Gary.. So now I know.. time to put it to use on that Burl I'm working on when I get home...

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Timothy and have fun turning the Burl. Take care, Gary

[@ElliottSkorupa-dm2bz]

Thanks for your response. I used all 30 wedges, maybe my jig was 11.85 deg because the plug is 3” tapered to 1” as instructed and the joints are outstanding. Can’t wait to spin it. You are an inspiration, bravo!

[@ThePapa1947]

Happy it all worked out for you. Thanks for letting me know. Gary

[@michaelmcdermott2178]

Thanks, Gary! I use carbide fairly frequently, so getting your take on the technique is golden.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Michael. It works for me. Hope it works out for you as well. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@fa18mhr]

I got a bad catch yesterday using a round carbide cutter on the inside of a bowl which threw my hand into the natural edge. Youser that hurt and I have some major scrapes and bruising to show for it. Thankfully no broken bones. Wish I had seen your video beforehand. Thanks for your insight.

[@ThePapa1947]

Sorry to hear about your catch. It does sound like you could have a sore hand. I hope you are catch free from here out. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@Bbutler787]

Most excellent video on carbide cutters.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Bruce, glad it was helpful. Take care, Gary

[@gilgrace1915]

I use traditional and carbide tools in my turning. I've noticed the carbide bits tend to produce tear-out on the softer woods I use. I found turning the tool about 5 to 10 degrees to mimic a negative rake scraper helps to eliminate some of the tear-out. This angling along with very light cuts give me the best results. Thanks for the cold air you keep sending us down this way. 2 degrees yesterday morning...too cold to work in the shop. Brrrr!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks Gil, yes tilting the tool is a very good option. Where do you live down from me where it is that cold. Must be upper end of California? It was a blazing 34 this morning but I tried to stay out of the shop. Take care, Gary

[@gilgrace1915]

I live in northern Nevada, we had what we call an "Inside slider", a storm that slips down on the east side of the Sierras so no protection from the mountains. Almost back to normal now...low 40's today.

[@ThePapa1947]

@@gilgrace1915 right I remember that now.

[@robertweldon7909]

So, you were a professional pattern maker. Now I know why you gain the results you always get. I can't even imagine turning 6 foot diameter turnings, let alone actually doing it. This is something that every person who wants to start turning wood should see. Great video. ;-)

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much Robert. I did do one bigger but it was just a ring. But it was close to 8 foot diameter but was only about 4 inches thick as I recall. I always thought I had the woodworkers dream job. Thanks for watching and commenting. Gary

[@Zerkbern]

Thank you! I watch a lot of turning videos and very few of them actually show techniques particularly around safety. Thank you.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you! Understanding the geometry of the catch really helps to see why it happens. And should help to avoid it. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@donaldtrabeaux5235]

Absolutely awesome video Mr. Gary thanks for sharing.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Donald and thanks for watching. Gary

[@mshaf]

Thank you, Gary. I'm a fairly new turner and am trying to figure out angles and positioning of the tools. This helps a lot.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Michael. Happy you found it helpful. Take care, Gary

[@glen3257]

thank you so much for this video. I have switched to carbide as traditional catches have scared the crap out of me with catches such as the scew chisel (aka widow maker). I am so excited to turn my Lathe back on and make shavings!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Glen. For sure it is hard to get comfortable on the lathe if you have a fear of a tool. I seldom use a skew for the type of turning I do. Have fun using the tools you are comfortable with. Gary

[@masjabrikdiy8422]

hello friends greetings healthy and successful always. thank you for sharing knowledge and always faithfully watching your latest stuff I like your ideas amazing knife

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much and thanks for watching. Gary

Hello my friend, Congrats on the project and smart way of working that hides great experiences. Thank you for this useful information. The design you translated that huge years ago was magnificent and impressive. I was also impressed by the shop you served in your apprenticeship. Details were beautiful. See you. Big greetings.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much my friend. It was a great shop to learn in. Being a small shop I started building patterns from day one. A big shop it is a few years before they turned you loose on your own project. I worked there for 11 or 12 years then moved to the largest shop in town. Lots of equipment and much better. But I am grateful for learning in the small shop with the machines we had. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@sonyhk3824]

Information that everyone who works in Woodturning needs. Cheers Gary 👍 💯

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Sony! Take care, Gary

[@randsipe224]

Thanks, this was really helpful to this newbie. I’m using all carbide in 3 profiles.❤

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you for watching and commenting Rand. Have a great time at your lathe. I sure enjoy it. Take care, Gary

[@harrykeel8557]

I can certainly agree with what you are saying. I was turning a cherry cremation urn and on the inside if I did not have my round carbide cutter absolutely in the right place I would get a catch. And on the outside, as well. So I kept checking where the cutting edge either above or below, or dead center, and with regular gouges as well. Great video. I am hoping to obtain a better scraper eventually. Stay safe!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Harry. It is good to hear you figured out what was not working. Some just blade the carbide or scrapers. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@stevefromlondon9175]

Thank you for making this video it was a great help Regards Steve London UK

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Steve. Happy you found it useful. Take care, Gary

[@TheTinyWorkshop]

Good lesson Gary. Thanks for this explanation. Frank.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Frank! Happy you enjoyed it. Take care, Gary

[@kulkulkan802]

This video helped me so much! I made a beautiful bowl with your advice. Thanks so much for posting this, it’s a lifesaver!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much. Happy it helped. Thanks for letting me know and watching. Gary

[@stewartmcmanus3991]

That was a great lesson, thanks Gary.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Stewart and thanks for watching.

[@RayWhitbyCreations]

Definitely want to get one of those overgrown negative rake scrapers! Still need to learn how to hollow the base for narrower aperture bowls/vases.

[@ThePapa1947]

I love that big scraper. Almost feels like cheating...but I am fine with that. Take care, Gary

[@jnol9009]

Thx so much for the info. I had my first bowl explode and I was using carbide. This really helps. Thx again

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you and for sure and having a bowl explode is no fun at all. Happy it helps. Take care, Gary

[@arleyloeffler8205]

i REALLY like your videos. I learn something or am reminded of good practices from virtually every one of them

[@ThePapa1947]

Glad you like them Arley and I appreciate you taking time to comment. Happy New Year, Gary

[@carolriley8472]

Very informative video...loved it! Wow, that was one huge piece you turned!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Carol. That one in the small shop I did shortly after finishing my apprenticeship. In the shop I went to where you see me turning there was a large post lathe to the right out of site. I did turn a ring almost 8 foot in diameter but was only about 4 or 5 inches thick as I recall. Wished I had taken pictures of everything I built. But I did take a lot. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@markv1027]

Perfect! I just bought my first carbide cutters and wasn't really sure how to use them. Thanks for the instruction. Have a great weekend Gary!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Mark. I would say take a piece of scrap and play around with the new tool. I would practice on the outside starting having the cutting edge just a bit above center and adjust from there for what works for you. Take care, Gary

[@exotictones1054]

Nice simple bowl that looks very nice n thanx for the info buddy.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you and thanks for watching. Gary

[@exotictones1054]

@@ThePapa1947 n that 6'er you turned was awesome.where did you work n do that stuff.

[@ThePapa1947]

@@exotictones1054 both those pictures were taken in the pattern shops I worked in. I worked in 2. One I served my apprenticeship in and the other I worked in till I retired almost 10 years ago. Both in Portland Oregon.

[@MarklTucson]

Very impressed with the pattern making work you did. That is a craft that requires great skill.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Mark. It was a job I knew I wanted to do when I was in high school. There was a pattern shop behind where I lived. As a young boy I did not know what they were doing but wanted to do it. In high school I found out what it was and set out to get an apprenticeship. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@WoodenItBeNice]

Hi Gary, Great explanation on presentation of carbide tools. Lovely little bowl as well. Take care my friend. Hwyl, Huw

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Huw, this was perfect for a cold weather video. It is 26 right now so not sure when I will start the next one. But my heater will keep me warm enough. Take care, Gary

[@watcher2610]

Hi Gary, I was a master carpenter ( nobody is except maybe Norm) and instructor for 50 years and most of the influencers are new and are great for teaching me what I forgot! But you always challenge me with something new. So I had to subscribe and comment. Which I I only done 5 other times.. thanks and keep up the good work!

[@ThePapa1947]

Well thank you very much and thanks for subscribing. I worked as a journeyman wood pattern maker and I still love to learn something new. You sound the same. Thanks again, Gary

[@jimmy1dee]

Excellent and informative presentation, I believe that this will help make my carbide tools more friendly, thank you for taking the time to make this video.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Jimmy. Happy you found it useful. Happy turning, Gary

[@ElliottSkorupa-dm2bz]

was hoping to learn the wide and narrow sided radius measurements on the center plug used in the twisted tangent stave bowl. Thanks, Elliott

[@ThePapa1947]

I have made two of those videos. Which one are you talking about and I will give you a dimension that will work. If it is the smaller one I started with 3" on the top and 1" on the bottom. I made adjustments to it while checking how the staves closed up. That is directly connected to the size of the staves. Hope that helps and if not leave a comment in the video you are talking about and it might help me explain better. Gary

[@bluebow68]

Thank you for sharing your skills..I learned a lot...Greetings from the U.K.

[@ThePapa1947]

You are very welcome and thanks for watching, Gary

[@timponder7487]

Very informative Gary answered some questions I had about carbide very helpful 👍

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Tim. Happy it helped. Gary

[@mikeyoung8126]

Thank you Gary great educational video take care and God bless

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much Mike and God bless you as well. Take care, Gary

[@dougpeters4395]

Great information Gary. Really appreciate all the stuff I have learned since I started watching your channel.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Doug and thanks for watching. Gary

[@williamruder8505]

This was very helpful. I’ve been turning for only a year and seldom use carbide. Partly because of the inside catch. The way you explained it and demonstrated it gave me the insight I need. I mostly use gauges but recently I’ve needed the reach that the carbide tools give me. I now feel like I can approach this with knowledge and confidence. Thank you.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you William. For sure reaching deep inside a vessel is one of the more difficult cuts I do. You just can't see what is going on as well. A nice heavy tool and setup correctly is a great help. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@steverobbins9419]

Thanks Gary very informative. I like using the carbides. I tend to keep them horizontal and on the centre line but will try adjusting them slightly. 👍👍

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Steve. As long as you are right on the center line you should be fine. It is when you do not pay attention and wonder off the wrong way is when it becomes a problem. Take care, Gary

[@marcellarose6945]

Great info....it has been certainly a catchy problem for me.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Marcel!

[@woodworkingskillwithsagar8802]

Very nice information about carbide tools' take care.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Sagar, take care my friend Gary

[@suzetteedwards7956]

Thanks for explaining the way to use the carbide tools. I got some and tried them but was struggling with catches. Ince it warms up here in WY. I'm going to give it a try.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Suzette! I am sure it is colder there than it is here in Oregon. I think this is a short cold spell we are going to have. Take care, Gary

[@LeeEnfield308]

Many thanks for posting this video, it was both interesting and informative, with a very nice little bowl at the end to demonstrate what you'd just been saying 👍👍🙂🙂

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much. Happy you enjoyed it. Very interesting name you have there. I guess different than the British 303 Enfield? Thanks for watching, Gary

[@marcelorios3251]

Thanks for this very usefull video, Cheers from Argentina!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you and thanks for watching.

[@JiggsysShed]

Great video Gary, very informative. Thanks for sharing.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much and thanks for watching. Gary

[@rroe5718]

Excellent job of showing and explaining this important issue

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks so much!

[@carlprudhomme1820]

Thanks for your drawing illustrations they definitely helped me understand how and why the tool catches in the wood. I tried turning my first bowl last week and I had several catches I now have an understanding of what I was doing wrong and have the confidence to give it another try thanks Carl Prudhomme

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Carl. Just take it nice and slow till you find out what works good for you. And above all things have fun turning. Take care and best of luck. Gary

[@stephendonathan6782]

Great video! I'm glad you did this video because I bought a swanneck carbide tool to do hollow forms. I kept getting catches and couldn't figure out why. So thank you very much for sharing this! Take care and GOD BLESS 🙏!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Stephen. The swan neck tool is tricky to begin with and if you are off a little it can be nearly impossible. God bless and take care my friend, Gary

[@carlspringle9342]

Hey Gary. Great video. I have made the same mistakes. We are good or better if we learn from our mistakes. Thank you for sharing this video.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Carl. For sure learning from you mistakes can be the best way to learn something. As long as you do not get hurt. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@ACKSWOODPASTE]

Good info GARY, they can be dangerous, 2 years ago I had a carbide catch and it kicked back and up so hard, it cracked 2 of my ribs, no fun.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Tom. For sure they can be dangerous and scary. If someone got a catch the whole shop would hear it and look over toward the lathe. Take care, Gary

[@driftingwild455]

Really grateful for your video. I'm relatively new to turning and keep getting the odd catch. The latest was yesterday when a lovely birch bowl went spinning across the workshop, grrr...! I realised it had to be something to do with the position of the tool and now I know why! Thanks for explaining it so clearly 😊

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you and happy it helped. The more you turn the more comfortable you will get with using the tools. It becomes second nature to have the tool in the right place. Those catches can wake you up for sure. Best of luck and have a great time turning, Gary

[@paulcoffey-windycitywoodwo1073]

That is great information, Gary! I've never thought about tool position above or below centerline while scraping. Also, I don't use carbide very often because I've never gotten a good finished surface with it. I'll take your tips to the shop with me and give it another try. It all makes sense now, after watching/listening to your explanation. Thanks for sharing your years of experience! Take care, --Paul

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Paul, I do know that a good finish is possible with scrapers. I also know they can tear your work up if given the chance. I am always willing to try something new and listen to anybody who has a good tip. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@kathleenposton2334]

VERY informative, Gary!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Kathleen and thanks for watching. Gary

[@robertnorthrup1914]

Good info indeed! Easy Wood Tools (carbide) has a vid on use and recommend to cut at centerline or a bit above.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Robert. For sure at center and a little above is good. Explaining why is more important and seeing the geometry of what is taking place. I have yet to hear anyone speak of the inside because a little above makes no sense to me. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@robertnorthrup1914]

Gary, yes you are 100% correct. Carbide tools do not cut like traditional bowl gouges but rather scrape thus removing material. They are a breed unto themselves. Me being a retired engineer, I fully understand the geometry of the tool to the material. Thanks for presenting a clear and concise explanation.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Robert. On the other hand a scraper will actually cut up to the point the burr wears down. That diamond pointed scraper I showed is a cutting fool for a few minutes. You will not get long curly shavings but about everything I used it on was segmented. That was much more stable for the patterns. For sure you would understand the geometry in doing this. I can appreciate that. Gary

[@cookiescoop6065]

Thank you sir that will make a big difference for my turning ✌️

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you very much and thanks for watching. Gary

[@danielolynych7213]

Hi Gary, I always learn something new when I watch your videos. I got away with very little catches by rotating the carbide tip downwards when turning the inside now after watching this I was in the wrong position which makes a lot of since. STILL LEARNING Thanks for the lesson!! Dan

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Dan, happy you enjoyed the video, You can tilt a carbide tool and it will cut much like a negative rake scraper and have much less catches. The makers of the popular carbide tools say to keep the tool level. That is where it is important to have it on the right side of center. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@oneturnatatime6309]

Nice info. I did start with carbides and up to this day that whenever I get a catch with the traditional tool ( still practicing) , carbide is my go to 😊

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you. That is the way to do it. Practice with those gouges and you will reach a stage where that is all you will want to use. But remember there are places where the carbide will be easier and work better. Take care, Gary

[@alinmayerthorpe7801]

That was a great tutorial Gary and I learned a lot having never had any instruction on turning! I love my carbides and by trial and error found that keeping them in the center of the work is the best way to use them! Thanks! Cheers Al

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Al and yes the center should work fine. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@kentturkow1572]

Thanks for the informative video, always interesting to have technics explained.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Kent and thanks for watching. Gary

[@ianmcgrail6482]

Thanks for the info much appreciated i have just started using carbide tools and they have a good amount of uses

[@ThePapa1947]

You bet Ian. Hope it all makes sense and helps. Take care, Gary

[@tuffymartinez]

Thank You Gary...Very much appreciated, very informative. What you do automatically, perhaps without thinking. It is nice to hear your simple breakdown of the do's & don'ts of turning. .. At 9:37 you mentioned the large casting was Titanium, WOW...Impressive piece to say the least. I shared this one with a machinist friend that lives near by you.... TM

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks Tuffy! I wanted to put a picture of the huge pump body I made but I did not do any turning on it. But I am standing by it and it stands as tall as me. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@BuiltbyBill1]

Great information, Gary. I have three carbide that I made, two round and one square and a holler with multi bits that my son got me. Not long after I started using it I got a catch and bent it near the handle. I have since discovered that I was being heavy handed. Ever turning is a learning experience. Have a good day. Bill

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Bill, I made all the handles and bars for my carbides as well. And I buy the inserts in bulk. Ten for the price of 1 of the others, Thanks for watching, Gary

[@terryflynn2791]

Very interesting a d helpful Thans Gary.Terry downunder

[@ThePapa1947]

Thanks you Terry and thanks for watching, Gary

[@kevincale1366]

Thanks for this, Always happy when I’m learning

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Kevin, happy you enjoyed the video. Take care, Gary

[@alangibb3100]

Gary, this video is fantastic for me as far as information is concerned on carbide not that I use them much but still invaluable information, I get a few catches with traditional tools so does the same principles apply. Alan

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Alan. Well to a small degree I would say yes. But we hold the handles lower when using a bowl gouge so the wood passing by is somewhat tangent to the cutting edge. Chances of being below the center line of the bowl seems unlikely. Seems most catches from a bowl gouges is putting the wing of the tool into the wood without being supported. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@glen3257]

another awesome video Gary, Thank you.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Glen and thanks for watching. Gary

[@MANJITSINGH-ko2oi]

THANK u gary good sound advice on tools.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Manjit I appreciate you watching. Gary

[@stuartscott9646]

Good info Gary. Thanks.

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Stuart. It was a good time to do it because it sure has been cold. Still cold so I need to work on something a bit easier again. I do not handle the cold the same as the days I spent all day in my drift boat in freezing weather LOL. Thanks for watching, Gary

[@NBCRGraphicDesign]

We are often told that it is the burr on a negative rake scraper that does the work... and after a few seconds the burr is gone and it's time to regrind to get a new burr. However..... Carbide does not create a burr. So how do carbide negative rake scrapers work so well? Is it just tool geometry? Last.... Do you build your own carbide tools? Favorite source for replacement cutters? Thanks.... I worked as "Pattern Boy" right out of college (Industrial Arts-1981) and have the utmost respect for that trade. It has certainly changed in the last 30 years. I learned ton in my stint there.... From working with mammoth machines and their upkeep, to fine, precision skills to ensure accuracy. I told my students a story the other day about an emergency modification I had to do on a pattern. The foundry guys were in my shop b/c they needed the change right away. We painted our patterns with Freeman Pattern Paint--the lacquer based stuff. As soon as I painted the changed part they lit the paint on fire to burn off the solvent and dry the paint. By the time they walked back to the foundry area they were ready to ram up the modified pattern. Good times!

[@ThePapa1947]

Thank you Dave! All HHS scrapers cut using a burr. And I think they cut better than any carbide cutter. The advantage to the carbide is they stay sharper longer. And the fact there is not burr I do not think they cut as good as the HSS scrapers. You can hone the flat ones and it does help but if you get a burr it is on the wrong side to help you. The negative rake carbides help to not get catches for the same reason the HSS ones do, But no burr so do not cut like the HSS ones do. I remember the stories of the old time pattern makers lighting the paint to get it to dry. But they were using Shellac and it flashed off and that was it. I heard about an apprentice in a different shop lighting up lacquer and just about burned the pattern up before they could get the fire out. We used lots of Freeman products as well. So when you say Pattern Boy is that an apprentice or a helper? Yes it was good times for me as well. I remember taking a trip to one of the foundries to do a design change on how some cores fit together. The mold was so big I could climb down inside and look at the fit of the cores and then go back to the shop and adjust the core box. That was one big pattern I made and one big sand mold. Thanks for watching and your stories. Good Times Gary

[@NBCRGraphicDesign]

I got the job in a pattern shop a few weeks before my college graduation-- I was not sure if I wanted to become a shop teacher, or go into industry. The actual pattern maker only worked 3 days a week, so he would show me what to do on the days in between when I was alone. The plant foreman was there all five days, as well, so I was not completely alone on those days. By August I was offered a teaching job, so I did not stay in that field.... I was only a Pattern Boy-- not even an apprentice.... But it was really great work. The patternshop was at one end of the building, a complete machine shop in the middle, and a foundry at the far end. But it was a skeleton crew-- 1981 was the beginning of the end for many old industries in Trenton, NJ. This is my 41st year as a shop teacher and I still fondly remember those months I spent in that pattern shop.

[@ThePapa1947]

I think being a shop teacher would be a great job. I had 3 teachers that inspired me. First was in grade school. He was strict if you goofed off but I loved the class and never goofed off. The other two in high school were great as well. Both the wood shop and the metal shop teachers. Also took architectural drawing and the metal shop teacher taught that.