Penuel The Black Pen In Conversation with Tebogo Keebine, MacG, Politics, America, Russia, Eskom

[@konvo_za]

THE PENUEL SHOW WITH TEBOGO KEEBINE 00:00 - INTRO 00:05 - Show begins 02:30 - MacG's remarks on The Penuel Show 07:10 - Choosing the right leader 09:48 - Kgomotso & Penuel's black sweater 14:35 - Production quality & alternative equipment for podcasts 21:48 - Finding storytellers 24:30 - Alternative media & content 27:05 - Curating South African content for global audiences 29:55 - Reality TV 31:35 - Penuel's controversial thought on arrogance 33:55 - Challenging the minds of people & propaganda 36:50 - Russia & USA 37:50 - Cyril's personal interests 39:13 - Kgomotso's preferred dress code 43:05 - Personal branding 43:45 - Penuel's love for black people 51:25 - Black people's oppression 53:45 - Political space & propaganda 58:10 - Penuel's dress code 1:03:50 - Brand alignment 1:10:25 - Fly on the wall podcasting 1:14:54 - Privilege 1:19:40 - Highschool experiences 1:25:20 - Matric pass rate 1:27:00 - Understanding & identifying talent 1:39:10 - Judging from a place of privilege 1:40:45 - Genes 1:45:05 - Love for superhero movies 1:53:05 - Awards & validation 2:00:00 - Penuel's religion 2:02:55 - Work ethic 2:04:48 - Closing comments 2:12:47 - ENDS Timestamps created by Khwezi Ndlovu.

[@diariesofskate]

I started this channel to showcase skateboarding in and around Johannesburg. Please check it out and subscribe to the channel if you like what you see, also feel free to comment your thoughts and suggestions. With your support, i can later showcase skateboarding in the whole country. Hope you enjoy the skating, have an awesome day 🎈

[@godpenuel]

We need kids to make unique content that reflects their personalities, their own areas and the unique ppl they have access to. BE AUTHENTIC 🔥🔥🔥

[@iviwediko7210]

🌟 you can tell Penuel has long been in the game he's now starting to contradict himself, he used to say his mom would force him to study and literally hit him for not attaining great marks even though he did well but now he's claiming he used to just pay attention and that's all (I guess he was just trying to prove a point)

[@iviwediko7210]

Great episode though 👍🔥

[@diariesofskate]

I started this channel to showcase skateboarding in and around Johannesburg. Please check it out and subscribe to the channel if you like what you see, also feel free to comment your thoughts and suggestions. With your support, i can later showcase skateboarding in the whole country. Hope you enjoy the skating, have an awesome day 🎈

[@apollosmartyn]

I agree with you pen

[@godpenuel]

We read all your comments. We study the game. We try to bring back guests you like. We try to expose new faces/voices as well. We'll keep trying to get better... and delivering education, news, entertainment, mind-challenging information, etc. We're growing. We're learning. We're teachable. And, most importantly, we love you ❤❤❤

[@SbusisoNkosi-22]

Shakabars bro🙏🏾

[@godpenuel]

Politics should attract the smartest and most dynamic people... so that smart & dynamic kids strive to serve as politicians.

[@CyrilThwala]

What are Qualifications to be in politics to lead a nation to prosperity? Check 9 Howard Gardner Multiple intelligences - Existential/Spiritual/Ancestral, Intrapersonal/Heart-Right-brain-Feminine-mind (Inhliziyo ekhanyisayo) and Logical-Mathematical/Left-brain-Masculine-mind are the 3 most important intelligences that MUST be part of our primary and high school system to produce psychologically astute African leaders ...and teaching chess is the best way to teach our children how to think like Kings and Queens who'd have a problem with the stupidity of the colonization system (does our unique gender law make us the smartest Africans among the 54 African countries?) and want to put an end to its effects, such as the recent Rand Manipulation and Gini Coefficient - it makes our country a circus if we have economists, CAs and businesspersons who've never thought of coming up with some "Black South African Decolonization Plan" to counter the British Colonization system that has raped the lives of South Africans since they introduced the "Hut Tax" in 1849.... as per the16 MBTI personalities, the 8 introverts & 8 extroverts, each group with its Top 4 & Bottom 4.....simply put, e.g. I'm a Top 4 Introvert (INTJ-Architect/Mastermind), the Bottom 4 are the creative guys like Tebza in the field of arts and are not necessarily the "Leadership Stock" like myself and Penuel, who seems more introverted and is probably an ENTJ-Commander - the existential question I asked in 2012 was "Why are Black people poor?", it took me just over decade to study the British colonization from first principles - NPOs and Co-Ops are things we must teach in schools

[@thisiscolbert3007]

You've been speaking highly of Tebza, finally he's on camera. Looking forward to this sit down. Thank you Lungelo. ❤

[@godpenuel]

I've had a sitdown with him before.

[@Mogau_Maimela]

2nd time scroll down to older episodes you'll see.

[@africanmind4018]

Penuel Show is the best. I'm a chillas also I hate this beefing Macg is trying to bring on Penuel.

[@mbuyiselo1]

I want to sponsor your next episode. Don't know how to go about that. Just one episode.

[@godpenuel]

Happy Monday... we're at it again! A special thank you to all our paying members, and all the people who donate money in the comments. We appreciate you all very much. Enjoy the episode 🙏🏽✊🏽

[@nomfundobhengu8420]

"Leadership is not a qualification on paper. Leadership is how well you serve, how well you solve problems." 🙌💯👏👏

[@drb5296]

I really enjoy how the episodes start: very relaxed and informal. Warming us up to some amazing conversations. Mondays are for The Penuel Show!

[@KaraboMasemola6408]

I believe it would be incredibly valuable to have a documentary showcasing Tebogo's journey and his production company, as it could serve as a powerful source of inspiration for aspiring filmmakers. His story of starting from scratch and now excelling in the podcasting space is truly remarkable. It has the potential to ignite a fire of possibility within any South African, highlighting that achieving success is possible. Tebogo's journey can be a roadmap for others, offering insights on the mistakes he made and the lessons learned along the way. Such a documentary would undoubtedly leave a lasting impact and motivate many to pursue their dreams with determination and resilience.

[@DRAGGOFFICIAL]

Came back just to review the comment section and I must say I'm proud. Barely any mentions of other podcasters or those who continue to cast stones at this platform, it shows the maturity and level of thinking of your core base Pen. Consumers of this content are here for the knowledge and gems, we aren't here to "drag" or "bash" other podcasters and their choice of content. The eco system is large enough for everyone to co-exist but with that said, nothing wrong with being competitive and I'm here for it!

[@TheKunovic]

The first 15 minutes lack of structure and flow are harming retention… The viewer is left feeling like their time isn’t valued. I’m a fan and don’t like having to click away to international podcasts which do a good job of pulling you in in the first 5min… Pen picks up the lack of structure and brings it up a couple of time …

[@TheKunovic]

They go on to make up for it with one of the best fly on the wall flows in sa

[@sibusisomanganye7471]

Penuel's point of view on any topic will always blow your brains out like an AK-47.

[@Augustinmasedi348]

Please don't be taking MAC G's jabs personally bro ,that's because he knows for sure that your the only guy in the industry at the moment whose gonna get big as podcast and chill if not bigger. paineulwa the black pain🤣🤣🤣

[@smangangema8258]

Lol true and problem is Penuel is a smart dude for some niggas that's intimidating

[@SundayRooster]

Hi Penuel. There is a growing number of African Americans emigrating to SA and calling for other African Americans to do the same. Please consider interviewing a gentleman by the name of Dr. Asad El Malik. He and his family have emigrated to SA recently. He and his community have provided a different perscpective about SA that I think you might find interesting. These folks are leaving the supposed first world for the crime ridden, loadshedding etc SA. Still, many there say they will not to go back to the USA. When they visit the USA again they cant wait to come back "home" which is now SA . Some of the folks were living the American dream. This conversation may also shed light to black South Africans who are thinking of moving to USA . These folk have given me a new found appreaciation for SA. They say SA has bad PR.

[@godpenuel]

Thank you so much, Mlungisi. For the suggestion and the donation. 🙏🏽

[@SundayRooster]

More importantly though, it is the feeling of belonging that they speak of that they find here. There is a spiritual angle to it.

[@SundayRooster]

Now he is getting into the re-imagination of SA, showing SA positives to the world.

[@SundayRooster]

@@godpenuel thank you Pen. This is all in his channel.

[@kutloanomatela4776]

For every African descended people born and living outside Africa and within the continent. Coming into South Africa legally like everyone else and respecting the rules of the law. This is home

[@patricknkosi5412]

I think we the audience of this show , we should be called ' The Ascendants'. Because every time someone comes across this show, he or she is sure ascend ngolwazi. Great show as always guys. Hopefully you guys are gonna push atleast two episodes weekly🤞

[@risskid_]

Risskid from Tanzania here... this thing is dope guys and i would like to see more interesting people all around this continent.... from Tanzani please start with Tundu lissu there is a lot going on in this country and he is the only person who can speak them all out as they are

[@malimchunu9124]

Just reminded me of my high school days and mind... No extra classes and studying, but used to ace my exams... Good informative conversations as usual. Keep it up Mlotshwa and your team. 🎉🙌

[@sifisovvilakazi1243]

i think you guys must drop 2 episodes per week monday the normal one and friday or weekend the recap like this one

[@tebogo81]

Like this

[@Loadedopinions]

Penuel gives me Tate vibes sometimes for black people.

[@sneyende2577]

We Are following different Tate bro

[@moeketsimosidi2140]

This is one of those episodes that unlocks one's mind. I appreciate this podcast so much.

[@KhelleRadebe]

I must watch this a couple of times before I can respond and react, Penuel is susceptible to setting us up for controversially stimulant perspectives, so I must must careful on how I understand his thoughts, because when you hear him speak in a first listen, it is very different if you re-listen and hear him speak for the second time. And the other guy is also very exceptional, we need more of him to, it would be interesting to see him have a topic that you guys don't agree on, you two are awesome,. Anyway this is the content that I gravitate towards.

[@solomzihenge7206]

We are Homeschooling our kids. One of of Homeschooling parents tell a story of their children who were terrible at school. They kept on changing schools only to find no progress. They took them to therapy and were told that these kids are naturally gifted in farming. They hate the indoors. They love animals and learn way better in the outdoors. They are no very happy and brilliant farmers who help vets students with their practicals. I always cry for underprivileged children who aren't getting the necessary support to be put on their path.

[@godpenuel]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@sakhilemjweni8181]

I love this podcast. It's the best in SA. It's mind opening. Keep it up boss, plzz don't invite celebrities, they're very stupid.

[@dikoenatsolo5561]

I like this typa episode, its chilled, just gents chilling...

[@enlighten5457]

I agree with you Penuel on your stances regarding those Blacks that are not willing to sacrifice for the economic well being of the Blacks of your country. Whites are on code with each other whether you believe it or not, by any means necessary to hold to economy power in South Africa. As Dr. John Henric Clark has taught us we have no friends and if you are looking for a friend then look in the mirror.#B1❤️🖤💚

[@amulilifa1400]

He looks Kanye South though

[@KaraboMasemola6408]

It's truly inspiring to witness the collaboration and success of two African men in the podcast space, demonstrating what can be achieved. Their achievements serve as a source of inspiration for any South African, irrespective of their background or gender. Tebogo and Penuel, with their remarkable work, have proven to be a dynamic duo that we never knew we needed. Congratulations to them for producing such high-quality content and setting an example for others to follow.

[@enlighten5457]

Penuel I have a test for your good white friends and all of the other good white people you come in contact with. Ask them what is their opinion on the repatriation of land without compensation? I determined how good white folks are here in the United States based on theirs stance for monetary reparation to the decendants of the enslaved.#B1❤️🖤💚

[@politicssouthafrica3591]

Pen is a top-notch podcaster but I always feel the underground hate he has for MacG. I don't understand why because you attract different viewers. Stop taking other people's opinions as personal bro, MacG drove us here, relax boy.

[@A.T.E-333]

One of very few Podcasts that Educate the mind and enrich alongside challenge each individual not only to be aware but most importantly look at yourself and who you becoming. The Great Thinkers y'all speak about Carl Jung, Marie L Von Franz, Frederick, Joe Dispenza the list goes on people should gravitate towards learning about what these scholars teach. Glad i found this Channel such a huge inspiration for me, since i took a decision to rearrange my System(beliefs etc).🤝🏾↗️

[@solomzihenge7206]

There are 9 intelligence groups and public school only caters for 2 which is Linguistic and Logical /Mathematical intelligence groups. School does more bad than good coz only 2 out of 9 kids are catered for. We need dynamism for other intelligence groups who can't read, who can't learn indoors and in confined space and lots of other aspects. We first need to discover the gift of the child and then decide how the learning that supports the child's intelligence group.

[@xolisasukwinimangali6325]

Your bearded guest untshebe looks like Black Thought 😊😊 or Will IAM 😊

[@ThePrimeVID]

yaneh Que dropped the ball! what happend? :D - much love to the tribal crew! you guys have been killing it man, i love the fact that i can listen to local podcasts that gives that joe rogan effect. you've nailed it, fly on the wall is what we here for! Big-ups Pen, you are a great host, and a thought provoking advocate.

[@KaraboMasemola6408]

While I understand and acknowledge Penuel's perspective on the issue of entitlement and racism among some white people, it is important to note that not everyone falls into this category. As an individual, I can share that I have personally not encountered racism. However, I am genuinely curious to understand the experiences of those who have faced discrimination based on their race. It is an important conversation to have, as it can help foster greater empathy and understanding. It is also worth noting that there are many white individuals who actively work towards inclusivity and equality, connecting with people from all backgrounds.

[@xolisasukwinimangali6325]

Black people we not oppressed enough you have to be able to say enough is enough 😊👌👌

[@sifisovvilakazi1243]

we need this on the penuel show 2 episodes per week one for recap one for a guest

[@hawed19]

So Que never added the pics and name on the edit 😂

[@godpenuel]

Can't trust Cue man... yerr!!!

[@sanethehappypill]

MacG wants to sell his show to everyone...n it's success, will come at anyone's cost

[@talundizkatyhopho4813]

What do you mean.. Can you pleaee elaborate a bit. Your comment grabbed my attention and gor me curious

[@mthokodd123]

Penuel 1st time I'm consuming your content. My boy put me onto your stuff. Really enjoyed listening to your nuanced, insightful views. Will be sharing with as many people as I can

[@ronaldmokoena4363]

I like how unscripted this episode was 🎉🎉 I can sèe a bit of procast & chill .it was a freestyle chat 👊 Big up

[@Enomast]

Podcast and chill is scripted

[@xolisasukwinimangali6325]

Your Tats are dope buddy 😎👍👍😊👌👌

[@songezomajola2342]

Am a chiller nhe but I understand what Pen said about MacG...the guy has his mistakes bcz of the beast podcast

[@levi2123]

He convos on this podcast are unmatched 🔥

[@baneleQolohle93]

@Penuel INDWEBILE LE CHAP UYTHATHAPHI🤣🤣🤣 BUT I LOVE HE'S SENSE OF HUMOUR

[@senzomthembu261]

Just let ppl decide the name, then u n da crew choose from da list given by ppl.

[@mokhoromichael7827]

Please bring Tebza back🤣🔥

[@MrsNgoma]

We don’t need your opinion on Podcast and chill. The issue with you is that you are so political.. it’s not always that deep man. The world is tough as is.

[@ronm4385]

Penuel I obviously dig your content which is why I keep coming back to watch. I just wish you would stop referring to yourself as smart, I personally find that off putting. It reminds me of a lot of discussions that I have with my white associates from time to time. Typically when a white person agrees with you they will say you are smart. I find that condescending AF and you keep reminding me of them when you refer to yourself as smart. If you truly are smart you don't have to say it yourself. I sincerely wish you would stop doing that.

[@godpenuel]

You have an issue with me believing in myself? With me giving myself flowers and with me believing I am great? I think you need to figure out why you don't feel this way about yourself.

[@ronm4385]

@@godpenuel Hi Penuel. You are obviously on the right track which is why your channel is growing exponentially. Long may it continue. My comment was not coming from a place of darkness at all. I was just voicing out my heartfelt feelings about what in my opinion doesn't add any value at all towards you being one of the flickering lights that we dearly need in the South African political zeitgeist. Thank you for your response.

[@jamafx-on-the-markets]

It's always great to watch this podcast

[@lebajwalekeka5847]

pen i have a sociology test an i just couldnt go with out watching thius episode..

[@godpenuel]

Hope the test went well and your results will be dope.

[@chadtyron3298]

Hi Pen, the McG unpacking would be great.

[@mlungisijali9562]

I hate narcissists but this one called Penuel Mlotshwa is my guy I love what u guys are doing bro u smart, you remind me of me looool. keep up the good work

[@lesetja007]

I'm only watching because I saw Macg

[@reversewithpoetry4175]

Me 2😂😂

[@Ray_Slick_SA]

Man Guyz It's True... I Choose To Watch The Penuel Show, No Regrets.. Thank You Bafethu For The Content 👌❤️

[@simonboyane1140]

I'm elated that you spoke about how whites think they are superhumans in comparison to other races. That's why Malema (whom I may not agree with on everything) said "white tendencies". Their tendencies irks me

[@edwardcameronpeverett6856]

Actually watched the whole thing... really beautiful to see you hold the platform, Pen!

[@SebopeThapelo]

😂😂I just realised today that GodPen has tattoos, I hope you don't mind telling a story about them. - your thoughts on MacG are necessary since he likes claims about your.

[@saneledlamini2109]

Penuel and Tebogo ngiyabonga. The conversations...isxadu!

[@bandisasimelane2115]

somewhere around 25:25sec "Ekse sanbonani Gogo.."🤣🤣🤣🤣 love the podcast bro! that broke my concentration. my animated mind pictured that. dope content as always kodwa🙌🙌🙌

[@z-e-d-d-a-y27]

Mama I made it 🙏🏽😔

[@saneledlamini2109]

Not everyone pays, but I know sibaningi esiqondayo ukuthi how far it goes, when the time is right Sizo bAbanengi abangama paying members...*

[@kallaks]

I had to make a choice either I choose education or gossip. I dnt regret that I have chosen The penue show. Every episode I learn 1 or 2 things. I left gossip podcasts for my younger brother. No offence

[@godpenuel]

Thank you for the vote of confidence. But every now and then we need that entertainment content as well 🙏🏽

[@bentonmosehla5007]

Mix the two bro. You really don't have to choose.

[@bigthangz5489]

aimed for 29.9% ? 👀 😂😂😂 hayini 😂😂 djeezgus😂😂 mina i wajted to be number1, but now mr 29%》is richer than me😂😂😂 tebogo!

[@tebogomaphefomodiba4232]

Hi team, Me I love the Penuel Show, especially when you're having conversations and not interviews. I loooove your show and your take on topics. Also please ask the team to write to buti Sello Julius Malema to come through for a conversations please. The X disagreement and his video should not get in the way of a great conversation between two thinkers. Dankie. Keep up the good content. 🙌❤

[@TheKeagsonn]

Sonny Bill done rugby league first,then rugby. He became heavy weight champ after rugby. He converted to Islam after a few highly publicised alcohol fueled events.

[@tshepofiles7375]

This is a dope setup, don't wanna call it an interview, conversation just two humans speaking their minds such shows are easy to finish you can watch for hours

[@bigthangz5489]

america ibambe izwe ngePsychology naleyo fake dollar money of theirs. ... those worthless pieces of paper

[@bigthangz5489]

watching penuel side step the parts of the conversation that go into relationships & sex ...... 👀 we already know u have 6kids .... you love that thing. so we dont judge you ..... penuel ,STOP side stepping the convos about love,sex & relationships. You also do this a lot on the vidz tou shoot with yo brother

[@moeketsitsoai6233]

You people are "Peinueling"😢 bringing "Mandisa Mashego" and not asking her about the money she took from Mr Ramaphosa

[@bigthangz5489]

macg built his nonsense on connection & having access ro money on the duma ntando interview, macg did not even know what uMemulo is!! & this is a person who stays in JHB at that age he did not know umemulo??! there issomething seriously wrong with macg & insay it all the time... but bathi iim putting a blak man down but then i talk shiaaat & crit everybody's videos .... even penueli😂😂

[@mothusikaleina8658]

Siyawubongela umsebenzi ka Ifatunde 😂

[@bigthangz5489]

the issue with school is that they got rid of the agricultural,artisan & vocational, practical work schools .... somehow people focused on the academics

[@Mathematics_With_Itu]

Great discussion but buti Pen gotta let others finish articulating their thoughts......interruptions are a no no

[@kutloanomatela4776]

Direct Democracy. We decide the policies We decide the leaders Representative democracy makes democracy look like a joke and a lie.

[@teezythatz9669]

why you gotta keep talking smack about McG? relax and focus on your craft .dont be obsessed with Mac

[@godpenuel]

Get outta here if you won't listen to the context. Tsek.

[@derpina8330]

bro did you even listen to the podcast or you just picked a line from an entire conversation.

[@teezythatz9669]

well i did , and i dont think you understand my point of view@@derpina8330

[@smangangema8258]

Stupid

[@minenhlemabuza9623]

People who subscribe to you should be called "The Black Pens" or "Black Pens"

[@bigthangz5489]

dont they know you have nore energy when you reduce your masturbations ?!?😂😂😂who does not know

[@makadimorajonase5484]

Um only 19 but um obsessed with the penuel show 😭😭and I must say its quite educational I

[@gabadiranekeadimilwe9308]

Come on Pen lets let lyin dogs lie. I left that show for petty lil issues now these...... If you know MacG is unfiltered why get on it.

[@airtight_ph]

I love this show, and I think Penuel is very intelligent but I wish he let the guests speak more. Please don't shoot, that's just how I feel.

[@lmkamarelelumkamareke103]

Nice one ndaba kaMlotshwa just do away wit the MacG topic u are doing bigger things already

[@kuhleteady4418]

Tebza is one of does individuals whose craft doesn't suit the system. The millions of people who can speak batter then him yet they will never reach his level even financial wise.

[@bigthangz5489]

macg didnt ask jon steenhuizen thw right questions, he was husy getting drunk

[@siphamandlanombewu9273]

Bra Pen you didn't answer why unxiba black?

[@danisilemlotshwa4752]

Oi Penzo and Tebzo. 2 wise men. Thanks for this great video

[@SebopeThapelo]

Thanks!

[@dalidalii9871]

Just give them company to shirt and put your company name in walls so that those who are busy can just copy the name then when they have spare time to watch youtube search for the name

[@bigthangz5489]

i have said over n over that macg is gonna mess up his gig its his track record .... he messes up everything

[@sisanelantobela]

Shout out to the penuel show❤❤

[@josephruzendo2245]

I love all of you. But Penuel is intelligent and he can deliver!

[@bigthangz5489]

im happy he asked penuel "why do u still love blak ppl" 👌👌👌

[@SPECTRE559]

This discussion on the misuse of resources is so me. I work in administration yet I have been rejected for gigs in analytics.

[@mpumelelosibanyoni2985]

Bro please try not interrupting guests, good job though

[@Nhlakanipho0000]

One of izithakazelo zami is "Mlotshwa"...so I'm wondering if we might be related in that sense. Anyways, I learn a lot from you my brother and you are very fearless and resolute with your opinions and I agree with most of them. Keep up the good work, hope you hit 200k before this year ends. Penuel is God.✊🏾

[@godpenuel]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@BhutiMthunzi]

Penuel find another host to work with u not this guy i'm not hating

[@mmerekomoshomo5412]

Dope , you have Kanye West in your team.... man your team is not lame.

[@blacklyte6444]

AmaPenny 😆...uzosithukisa wena

[@godpenuel]

😂😂😂

[@mcebosikhakhane7164]

have u thought about inviting t bo touch, i thing it will be a dope conversation