The Penuel Show In Conversation with Mbuso Khoza, uMkhokha, Shaka iLembe, Shembe Church, Homeless

[@konvo_za]

THE PENUEL SHOW WITH MBUSO KHOZA 00:00 - INTRO 04:00 - Biography 13:20 - Spirituality, losing my father 18:10 - Energy transfer 24:05 - Dealing with death 29:05 - Are Zulu's violent 30:45 - Shaka kaSenzangakhona "Zulu" 35:35 - Language & cultural evolution 40:15 - Significance of rings 42:15 - History of polygamy 50:40 - Violence 56:15 - Relationship between violence & peace 1:01:50 - Hardships of life 1:09:00 - Suicidal thoughts 1:12:43 - Dealing with depression 1:18:50 - What's spiritual about Shembe church 1:43:40 - Music & arts industry 1:47:28 - Taking lessons from musical legends 1:52:00 - Learning from others mistakes 2:00:15 - Dangers of being knowledgeable 2:16:02 - The Mbuso Khoza foundation 2:27:20 - Closing comments 2:32:41 - ENDS Compiled by Khwezi Ndlovu IG: kzndlovu Tt: khwezindlovu

[@Ttp017]

Thokozani ....oBuuhle

[@wisdomtorku1310]

Too much wisdom and consciousness released here. But Penuel, almost 1 hour of the video is in local language. It makes it difficult for some of us to grasp the whole content. Am Wisdom, connecting from Ghana 🇬🇭

[@fusiflorence8123]

Pen,please do a research about Plo Lumumba,and pls invite him when he comes to SA coz I think he's from khenya,see that gentleman and Mr Maphonga,they have a lot of information that we must know,and relearn

[@derickfarnicky6062]

mbuso khoza is a walking library of ancient history and knowlegdge

[@nosiphomkhize9264]

😅I think 😢 that a source of his depression

[@fvckingjosh8297]

✅

[@manqobamahlangu215]

Yes but it's Mbuso Khoza. Please get it right next time. Danko!

[@goitseoneseleka4360]

Please bring Baba Khoza again what an episode Baba Khoza is extremely intelligent

[@faustinodomingos4986]

💯💯💯💯

[@zuzuh5755]

We need part 2,this was too short 😢. David Mashabela give guests time they want.

[@faustinodomingos4986]

@@zuzuh5755 true.we need to gather as much knowledge &wisdom from him while he is still alive.he is a living archives.grooved one time with penuele at soshanguve ko brian pub.was sitting with him.didnt know he is celebrity🤣🤣🤣💯💯

[@thobekankuna1524]

Please 😅

[@sabelomncwabe5818]

Thank you so much Penuel, we are learning about ourselves, spiritual health.. We can still save our nation 🙏

[@MsRoriT]

If you live in the future, you will be anxious. If you live in the past, you will be depressed. If you live in the present, you will have peace of mind.

[@buhlebethuyoyo9121]

If you live in the future, you will be anxious. If you live in the past, you will be depressed and if you live in the present, you will be lost.

[@Vince_78]

Kindly change the word will with the word are and feel how it sounds..."the present".

[@selbybopape23]

These 4 comments are Just Loaded in their different Perspectives

[@bhekifamthembu7283]

I wonder how is your present. How you are happy

[@nkosimandla7687]

Mfowethu siyabonga ngalenkulumo yenu kodwa ifingqwe kakhulu. Ngicela uhlale nalendoda i hora nixoxa nje i topic eyodwa. Noma ke kungaqala ku part 1 kuye ku part 10 ngoba kuningi okukulendoda. Uma nje ningakhuluma nge vibration nithathe i hora lonke etc

[@joyfulncube1497]

We need to give Penuel his flowers. He knows how to ask questions and he structures them so well. I am amazed

[@sibonelohashtag]

Without a doubt

[@LedilePhilia]

Very true

[@isaacmashego4857]

He asked a lot of good questions.

[@LedilePhilia]

And educational too❤

[@happynessmbatha5097]

Ability to move at the pace kaBab'Khoza. Thats amazing, its rare for ppl to understand gifted ppl .

[@malumskhulu]

For someone who doesn't have formal education, uBab' Mbuso is a well of knowledge. Yeses, ngifunde lukhulu kule episode. May God continue to bless you all. Free Education on this podcast. I must become a paying member.

[@queentladi8238]

African knowledge is soo formal, it makes the modern formal education so informal and inferior 😊

[@sbongamandlamwelase7559]

I was asking myself how on earth this show ain't got sponsors. But now i see why, anything that builds black people either culturally or politically , will on obviously not get the lime light. Damn Penuel is just an exceptional teacher

[@nomsanhlabathi4599]

Europe made us believe that without their opinions of the world “ education “ we are nothing… In actual truth we as blacks are naturally smart but we were made to believe we are dumb,and so we believe it😢

[@Zamanda333]

​@@nomsanhlabathi4599💯🤝

[@salgshaka4483]

Nas says it better,, "we were scholars before Colleges" True knowledge or wisdom❤

[@Thek53guru]

Yoh! I feel like a thief watching this and learning so much without paying anything. Wow! What an episode😱

[@fortunemashiane721]

Fork Maan😂😂

[@marcuskhumalo228]

Truth

[@tiyangnzima306]

Premium content

[@innocentmashaba9925]

👊👊

[@ndabenhleshazi6539]

Mfethu

[@luckynxumalo4837]

This is not an interview, it's lecture of a highest order!

[@oohzulu]

If I had to vote for the interview of the year. I would hold this conversation high in the rankings for 2024. Great show Pen!

[@vusikhumalo3810]

My guy 🎉

[@jabulilenkosi9617]

The should be votes of best interviews you know and I’m with you on that vote ❤

[@ndabenhleshazi6539]

I concur

[@Zy-gote]

My top 5 overall Mbuso Khoza, Vusi T, Joshua Maphonga, Ike Khumalo & Rutendo. In no particular order.

[@libraman4202]

The respect that Penuel shows towards Bhut' Mbuso

[@bulelanimama1961]

Mr Khoza needs to write books about his thoughts. This is because his conceptions are deep. They need to be digested and analysed and developed.

[@siya.mbanga]

Loved this conversation Bab' Khoza. He is basically saying, Life is simple, respect nature and it will respect you back.

[@SandulolungeloZulu]

Ubaba umbuso is such an amazing human nje, watching him is like BIG! his legendary. Huge thinker ❤🔥🔥🔥

[@SiphokaziPutini]

What a man, a treasure, truth seeker and knowledge speaker. Siyakuhlonipha bab'uKhoza. Siyabonga

[@xolanimweli6225]

I am here rewatching the episode for a second time. and this is not the last time. Mbuso Khoza is such a breathe of fresh air filled with Knowledge and understanding of our cultures.

[@thulimahlazitha9858]

😭😭😭so many triggers. I am crying uncontrollable 😭😭😭aaai....thank u Penuel and baba Mbuso🙏🙏🙏

[@KagisoTiroMoimaBlackmotionSA]

This was a master class in both Music and History, Khoza Omuhle. Thanks Penuel.

[@scelondlovu3518]

Your guest selection Penuel show you are one of the smartest leaders we need in SA. May you grow old my brother and lead this black nation. Your spirit will live forever✊. Thank you for the show

[@KhayaVlogs]

“Words can be morphed around by the cause of events, but energy can never change!” Factsssss

[@MusingoConstruction]

"Many people go to university to call things names" Mbuso Khoza

[@irenenemavhola761]

❤

[@lehlagaremogadime7494]

Long story short, adapt and be versatile. We give thanks to Ntate Khoza and Penuel for inviting him.

[@blinkym21]

Speaking in vernacular should never be followed by an apology ever… looking forward to this conversation💫.

[@anelengema2759]

Ngaze ngamthanda nangu uBaba😭😭🙏🏼❤️

[@boemoobonengmorekwa5395]

insightful thank you so so much, what a knowledgeable African man. We need more of these people in our soils.

[@sakhiledlamini3783]

Mr Khoza just spoke of his Mom and the Lightning sound had high frequency.It means his Mom was present in the conversation,some people are spiritually strong.

[@ThandiShabalala]

Ingthusile le interview tjooo, The Universe is pleased with it coz ubuloke ubuya nje uziveza.

[@iNdodanaKaMakhoba]

The fact that Shaka Zulu was "lightskined" is still processing slowly 😮‍💨

[@reversewithpoetry4175]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Codename_deephousejunkie]

The most aggressive of us are light skinned. Sikhule silwa. Silwela ibala elenza ngathi si weak

[@captain.tell.me.hoe.]

​@@Codename_deephousejunkieayikho leyonto 😂😂😂 usuka k'siphi isgodi? . . .

[@Ntombelar4sure-db2yl]

Impela they say Shaka was not dark in complexion even uMntwana wakwaPhindangene the King that was dark in complexion was iSilo sas'Ondini King Cetshwayo.

[@mthunzimhlongo660]

Yep my grandfather once said that and i laughed at him. And now i truly believe it

[@vusiradebe5737]

I'm glad to have lived in this generation of such greatness, with so much wisdom. izandla zindlulikhanda.

[@nhlanhlangidi1400]

Mbuso Khoza is on another level of wisdom

[@vusikhumalo3810]

One of my best interviews. I loved him on Umkhokha and everyone in the house knew how much he impressed me with his voice and mannerisms, he portrayed the character in an amazing way. And then this❤

[@matabelelandbroadcastingcorpor]

This man is a genius, his psychological issues maybe emanating from overthinking, or incongruence from aspirations and lack of opportunity when younger. Just imagine such a beautiful mind at tender age without proper channelling. Having said that, ubaba uKhoza is missing it when it comes to Kemet and black knowledge. The history is clear of what the Egyptians invented before the arrival of Romans, Greeks and Arabs.

[@mlungisimngadi6171]

"Uyangshaya thats too deep for me".... Many interviewers need to learn this skill.

[@mabutibebula6290]

This honourable man made me cry.... Penuel.Am a xhosa guy frm Uitenhage nd when i was raised by both my parents nd we were jst ok not well off but jst ok. I stayed in Joburg at some point nd i know most places he is talking about. Nd yes am frm the musical family. Thank BabKhoza for such rich insight. Plz come again

[@thami4036]

ubhuti Mbuso inesipho esengaphezu kokucabanga kwethu.... I have watched this episode twice and I'm blown away.

[@MandlaMakhombothi-xl1hp]

A Farmer of thought, a Pan-Africanist, a son of the soil, an African,a fountain of African wisdom!! Mbuso Khoza is a great son of Africa. Very great insight from this wonderful man.

[@kholekatyatyeka4527]

Mr Khoza,you're a treasure of our black children, very brilliant,so gifted.

[@katlegomahloko8925]

Bab Khoza knowledge of life 🧬 is out of this world ❤

[@Nonginzianam]

What uBab'uKhoza is saying about vibrations and 433 Hz frequency is similar to what Terrence Howard has been speaking on. This thing of Vibrations really needs some serious attention.

[@pri_ncessbuttercup]

Hey can you please try to explain it further I didn't quite understand fully when uBab' Khoza explained it

[@thabisokevinmbili9158]

I was also watching that video. Powerful

[@grantbradshaw7907]

Good that you interviewing such a man on Zulu culture We all have a love for King Shaka and all the Zulu history and culture

[@SamuelKhama]

Dear Penuel, as somebody who often constructively criticises about intererupting your guests, i must say im am very proud of how you handled this interview, a great one it was thank you🤛

[@jabulilenkosi9617]

❤. I couldn’t finish in a day but I made it work in two days and I’m so happy that there’s still people like him alive to pass great knowledge. It was also inspiring to hear him talk about the disorders he suffers in without shying away . What an amazing interview!! I’m definitely subscribing 🎉

[@ConfusedForest-ye1dn]

Babu Mbuso is a music genius and we are so blessed to have him..... Everything about him is real no filters 100% masterpiece

[@ThaboJaffery]

Penuel this guy is a jewel. Full of history knowledge

[@QueenKunene]

Thanks Penuel we need such talks as black people , this can heal us ❤

[@samukelomchunu]

I am watching this episode for the third time. I will like part 2 and 3 of this interview

[@thandekileeunice]

I just love, when he said, "Let's turn a spear into a pen 🖊 education it's a key , Sobhuza ll quoted the same❤

[@jaylip_trends]

This was the Best Interview I've ever came across in my entire life

[@gordenmphulomolebale8335]

I’ve never seen black pen so calm n down to earth while talking to the guest,I think u met a mankind today🫵🏼

[@angelamzalisi2102]

Came here because my husband watched this interview TWICE😅

[@PCWP]

I’ll definitely watch it more than twice

[@samshabza2073]

Ur family is blessed. Keep following your husband's wisdom.

[@mdumkhize6296]

Bab' uMbuso Khoza uyingqwele, what an enlightening conversation and thanks Penuel for such an amazing interview.

[@CebolenkosiJiyane]

4 times I've watched this Podcast for me the best in all I've consumed before and i see myself in Mbuso and one day i prophesy if that's the word to work noMbuso really love it thank you

[@SundayRooster]

This is up there with best episodes. Mbuso Khoza must come here often. Pen I like how you brought him back to topic each time you guys digressed. Keep this up.

[@mawandumusambonane920]

Ngaze ngathobeka. I work in Europe and was sceptical to listen to the podcast. As a born again, I support my Zulu tradition after this clip. Baba Khoza you took me in the theatre of my mind. This info is so rich, wishing my generation to be influenced at this!!!!

[@ayandabanks2872]

Zul'el'phezulu! Mnini-mandla-onke! Izizwe z'yakhothama phambi kwakho. Wena owazi... Isiqalo nesiphetho. Izintuthwane zidumisa zibabaza ubukhulu bakho, Zithi Bayede!!! Bayede wena owadala lelizulu nomhlaba! O singaba yini, ngaphandle kwakho?! Became my morning prayer since 2019. Siyabonga Mkhathini! 🙌🏾

[@ntokozothungo3914]

I respect ubabu Khoza he is one of the legends we have in this country. Big Penuel for bringing this legend.

[@ephraimmotho887]

I am so happy with this podcast. The quality of the guests is 💯

[@godpenuel]

APOLOGIES: Due to a technical glitch, the episode meant to drop tomorrow morning at 9am was released at midnight on the 6/7th of April 2024. We have decided to leave it to flight, and apologize for the disruption in your regular viewing. We shall fix this moving forward. Thank you for your constant support & please enjoy the episode. 🙏🏽❤️

[@ntokozolizwimkhize8340]

All good, it gives a person like me to watch it again because eerrrr i was lost in so many things. The wealth of knowledge shared here you can't grasp instantly.

[@HBMNkosi-iu8sy]

You need to release more , this was a nice blessing in disguise

[@sizwemsilora9553]

Thanks for clarity Penuel... I thought you air everyday now... But will go through this one as I have cleared my calendar for 9 am... Dankie Penuel...

[@lesanotokelo]

keep on awakening us Pen

[@cromwelgcina9707]

Thanks God for that mistake coz I thing it's good for business chances on Sunday there are more people at home which will translate to more viewership.

[@ThaboButhelezi-qm6td]

Thank you Pen and your guest for this amazing episode. How I wish South African History could be corrected and made mandatory in schools.

[@thamsanqangxikimane6086]

Meta and matter 🙆🙆 we need more of this from uBhuti Mbuso🤝

[@MaximumMax]

Our history being documented, the wisdom indeed need to be passed on. Sibonge bab'Khoza.

[@AtangNtepe]

I wish I had a grandfather or father as informative as Mr Khoza

[@nhlanhlangema127]

First time seeing Penuel so intune just sitting absorbing all this information from Bab Khoza, one of thee best podcast🙏🏽

[@sophisticatedimmigrant3912]

Yabona after watching this episode all of us should just walk into any university and get a degree. We’ve been schooled and graduated.

[@sbonelosngcobo5755]

You have killed me😂😂😂😂 dead

[@leratozulu5649]

I loved him from his presence when I first saw him...now hearing him in person I am ecstatic....❤❤❤❤❤

[@sibisivusi7352]

Awwuuu! Penual and Baba khoza share a clan name Mlotshwa... thank you for bringing the Elder Mkhathini!

[@kimberkhoza6558]

Mlilo

[@Malokani]

First time we have absolutely nothing negative to say about Panuel. I appreciate this❤

[@NdikhayeNetshiozwi]

thanks for Giving a Mention to My Beloved Friend and neighbour, Mbuso Ndlovu! He is a teacher of music and a traditional man who really hungers to connect young people to their roots through Music and dance. the Two Mbusos will make magic when they meet.

[@NBiyelaCapital]

This is the GOAT episode

[@karabomadia2783]

Wow I would listen to Mbuso Khoza everyday especially on matters of the Spiritual Awakening.

[@sbusibiya8973]

I've enjoyed all of the interview. The 2 hours and 32 minutes seems so short. Masterclass interview. Legendary Mbuso Khoza 👍 👌 👍 👏 👏

[@viewsfromsouthafrica12]

I've been listening for an hour now all I can say is Penuel this will end up being a Classic..Sifundile ❤

[@odette.p.shongwe8408]

I respect a man who listens attentively, Much Respect for u Black Pen❤

[@SiyamthandaQwabe-x8i]

Best interview postcast at the moment Mbuso Khoza ✊️✊️✊️✊️

[@sbudashap]

Can’t wait for this genius 🥺

[@NonhlanhlaGama-w3w]

Mlotshwa, ngikuthandani!!!!❤ Thanks Penuel for bringing this legend on my couch. 🙏🇿🇦

[@MandysDiaries]

I've learnt more from this conversation than and book I've ever read.

[@ZOE_NtombiYaseMancwabeni]

African spirituality ❤ has huge influence on African culture. Interchangeable at most instances. Its absolutely beautiful to have discovered this while im still young. To know my roots has grounded me deeply. ❤❤❤

[@gordenmphulomolebale8335]

Yoooyooo this guy is so real so organic I can listen to him for days❤

[@wandilevilakati5455]

Penuel, your creativity in preluding a Question is just beyond human imagination..................keep it up my brother....

[@nothandonxumalo4460]

i need to listen to the first hour again and again this man is just to deep and i like it

[@gordenmphulomolebale8335]

Me too Sunday afternoon phenda mzala better than watching soccer the whole afternoon 😂

[@nonhlanhlah]

Now this Respectable Beautiful Human i would love to meet,what an amazing person we share this s world with ,his brain a work of what we perceive as Godly him.what an awesome show it was an to have him .loved it❤

[@sonkeabat9073]

Amazing. That's what this episode was. Learned si much and we definitely need Bab Khoza back. He is a GREAT mind

[@Duzie37]

Beautiful! Absolutely beautiful I will have to listen to the interview again. What an interview Mr Khoza

[@MsMousy82]

I was so taken by this interview, I love how Bab'Khoza would break into song and how his voice has got so much healing, depth and "wisdom" if one could call it that. I was completely invested in this interview from start to finish took me about 5 hours to get through because I needed to pause for various reasons and at times, going back to something he said and repeating it a couple of times so that it could land. I feel so lifted! Bless!

[@mnqobicyprian4590]

What an education episode, at first I thought I will fast forward but I found myself watching the whole episode with focus... Thank you baba khoza ❤

[@sizwemendu5278]

When you put 'intelligence' and 'wisdom' together, you get people like Mbuso Khoza.🫡

[@fanelesibongemthethwa153]

Pen yazi back then I could listen to your podcasts and multitask. Yooh I just can't seem to do that. That should tell you how impactful your platform is. God Bless You Brother

[@zintlesolani8832]

I am that I am. I have been waiting to hear this from a person with the same skin as me. This 'identity' thing is the one that is holding us back from expanding our consciousness. When you remove your name and surname. Who are you? Dope conversation. I could listen to Mr. Khoza all day. So impactful 😊❤

[@anelissamongoe6427]

I love this entire conversation. This is one for my archives.

[@ma-afrikamlunguza1950]

Penuel the Black pen, You out did yourself on this one , one of the biggest highlight for the year 🌄

[@odette.p.shongwe8408]

Great Topics..we thank you bab Mbuso. I always honor the saying "Knowledge is in our DNA"..u are living proof Baba.keep educating us#Love❤❤FromMbombela

[@siyandamasala1136]

Man this guys story touched me. His eloquence and sense of self is so vast that you would listen to him for hours. I wish he can go on and touch other people's lives so they can create a better future for themselves. I am nowhere near where I want to be but he planted a seed of belief in me, that sometimes in the midst of termoil, a great discovery or manisfestation can arise. I thank him for putting his hand up and raising these points and also big up to Pen and the rest of the crew for giving a platform to such profound individuals.

[@kenanawochristophermashupy4281]

This Man is super smart. His a moving library and encyclopedia

[@ShakerComedyChannel]

Beautiful interview, I wish he could explain more the story of Shaka without diverting and also the history of surnames

[@Funeral1000]

That Mama Jack Song is my favourite thank you Pen for this great guest may the God in you bless you.

[@ntombikayisemngomezuludina9423]

Panuel, this must be one of The best interviews I have ever watched. Absolutely loved it ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@christopherncube7463]

Ubab' Khoza is a fountain of knowledge indeed,there is history and spirituality all in one,and just the way he is so fluent for someone qith no formal education says a lot about him as a person nje

[@simyolisemnamata1]

Mr Khoza Mbuso, you are very special sir.what an mesmerising episode😃

[@abtshoni]

This was a great conversation. I love how utata Umbuso marriages inkolo with science, he can literally navigate through both in a very seamless manner. Sifunda lukhulu, enkosi.

[@nkululekozulu6998]

Penuel. Thank you for bringing uMkhathini....This is a rare breed of a thinker we have at our disposal. I personally have accumulated immeasurable wealth from insight from his well. He is a calibre of a thinker who helps one to stretch his brain, as opposed to bashing those who harbour different views. Mkhathini challenges those who think differently to examine possibilities on the other end in a very diplomatic manner.

[@tamtamsithole7896]

thank you for this , Khoza is a gift