Ableton Move: Game-Changer or Gimmick?

[@SherikaSherard]

The only review I trust 👀

[@WillHatton]

❤🙌🏻

[@earthboundboy]

I made more music in my first week of owning a Move than I have on the SP404mk2 after two years of owning that. I think it just feels like an instrument you pick up and play, and then you can take that into Ableton and round it out into a finished piece of music so much easier than with any other standalone sampler I can think of. It comes down to what dovetails best with your brain, I think. I’m autistic and the way the Move works just makes sense to my brain. I think that’s all that matters, ultimately.

[@WillHatton]

“It comes down to what dovetails best with your brain” I love that, almost poetic! Totally, some things just click! I love a nitty gritty menu dive, the SP totally scratches that itch. I can see where we differ there and I respect and appreciate it! Thanks so much for your comment

[@Drrolfski]

If you're an Ableton user who wants to mobile standalone sketch without having to ask "And now what?" then this it. The latter question is particularly critical with many of these portable grooveboxes. A lot of times you're making cool beats that end up just sitting there in this device, The Move has solved that.

[@DeeDeeCHAUNCEY]

My drum racks on the move always become a huge mess to tackle in Live. It’s not always a smooth transition.

[@Drrolfski]

@@DeeDeeCHAUNCEY I have no doubt but this is solvable with updates. Like other bugs and missing features that are expected to be solved.

[@art-thou-gomeo]

Gonna be that guy: This was already solved before the Move. It's called "Ableton Note" and it's 1% of the price of a move.

[@morecowbell2611]

@@art-thou-gomeoexcept if you’re on android!

[@scottlerocin]

@@art-thou-gomeo Yeah great if you want to spend a stack of cash on an apple device, which I did in the past and hated the experience. I went back to tactile hardware because a touchscreen is crap for tweaking and I hate Apple. I would rather shell out cash on the Move than buy another iPad

[@jakewhiteyo]

That finger-drumming sequence on the SP-404MKII was such a subtle flex. Super solid 🔥🔥

[@WillHatton]

Thank you, more to come!

[@RobotSnake]

Workflows are mainly the deciding factor with devices like this. I freaking love the Move as WHAT IT CLAIMS TO BE and that is a ketchpad for Ableton. The main problem with all the critics is they want it to be the end all, be all creation device. It's soooo ignorant to want things to be what they are not even trying to be. This dude explained next to nothing about the Move. The bottom line is that if it was ONLY a portable synth with Drift and Wavetable and the sequencer/controller it would be worth it. It is WAY more than that with more to come. Stop making excuses people and make music.

[@pawnotdaw4559]

I thought the whole point of Move is just a sketchpad for ideas that can easily be dropped into Ableton afterwards to finish productions. To me it seems perfect for that as it is. No interest for me as I use laptop when not in studio and that works good for me. But i can see the appeal. I cant see the appeal of trying to make the Move be something its not though.

[@WillHatton]

Great point

[@PeranMe]

For me, the Move was the thing that made me really start using Note on my I.P.A.D. Granted, it’s more than twice the total cost of the Move, but I get more tracks, and now that Note lets me edit note data, having to use the screen to play isn’t really a dealbreaker. However, I should point out that I wouldn’t be using neither Note or a Move to actually make finished tracks on, but more as a notepad for making sure I don’t forget an idea for a song, or just playing around. Kind of waiting for Move 2, and picking up a used Move 1 to use as a control surface tho!

[@art-thou-gomeo]

Yeah Note slaps, looking for someone to mention this. It's literally less than 1% of the price of move for much more functionality.

[@WillHatton]

Good point!

[@if_dots]

Move is what made me pick up Note again too, it's really nice :)

[@art-thou-gomeo]

@@if_dots Hell yeah homie!

[@CliffMoir]

Great transparent review, thanks! The video actually reaffirms my purchase today. Load up 4 tracks, flush out the melody and transitions, export to live, finish all other duties in Live, I might even use the Move for some controller duties, we’ll see. I try not to get hung up on price points, it’s either worth the price of admission and does what I need it to, or it doesn’t. It’s all about being limited in this regard and turning things around fast.

[@gavinhammond3137]

It's better at a lot more than ambient. It's been able to create every genre I've tried on it with ease. I think it's a you problem. There have been 4, 3 and 2 piece bands since the dawn of time. I guarantee you can make any genre in this device pretty easily.

[@kafkawilde4604]

Agree that sp404 is ideal performance partner for move

[@flrn84791]

I don't think you understood the point of the device to be honest... It's not made to be used for live performances, but as a sketch pad for ideas to then be seamlessly transfered to Ableton Live. As for the keys and scales, I mean that's how it's been on the Push for years...

[@Syllerud]

yeah this is very bad video in general

[@janst.6859]

I agree with you, there are limitations and it is very expensive - perhaps too expensive. But I think there are different use cases that make this device valuable. To implement initial ideas quickly, or to jam. Yes, of course, other devices can do that too, but the integration into LIVE is super easy and quick to continue working there. I also like the controller function, it's not worth 450 euros, but maybe the mix of all the reasons. But I agree with you, a few things are indeed missing.

[@scottlerocin]

I think it's the best device I have bought in a long time. I have tried Circuit tracks, I have a ton of Elektron units, I've tried the Roland sequencers etc and one key factor that always annoyed me was if I had a good idea it would just sit on the Hardware. Yeah you can sample it into Ableton or capture the midi notes but it's just not the same. It doesn't let you evolve the song further. Now I have already moved about 6 tracks over to be finished in Ableton and I've had the Move for 2 weeks. So it's down to your creatvity basically. I love it as a sketchpad and have never needed more than 4 tracks so far, one drum kit can have 16 samples and then 3 synths ontop, it's perfectly fine to lay down the foundations of a song? Layring happens once I put it into Ableton. So although it's nice that you did a review, I don't at all agree with it, but that's a personal perspective. It works for me and it works well.

[@WillHatton]

Sick!

[@shanewyatt1793]

That's an expensive note pad.

[@scottlerocin]

@@shanewyatt1793 I refuse to buy Apple products and note is only available on iOS so pay 1008 euros for an iPad pro with Note or 450 on the move and never have to deal with Apple, seemed like a no brainer to me.

[@HULK373]

At least your respectful about your comments. Some content creators go all in like it’s the final countdown.😂 I’m 62 and still grooving. My first piece of gear was a Yamaha RX-7 then I upgraded to the RY30 which was a step in this direction because you could save your project which was basically sequences in song mode only 1 track and you just added and deleted what you needed. You had to have what they call a Shoebox Cassette Tape recorder. It had a 1/8” line in and a line out and the other end went into the RY30 it was 3 prong. The trick was you would download your project on to this cassette tape and it sounded like dial up internet.😂 If you started on 0 you had to match that up or your project was lost when you tried to reload it.😩 Yeah that happened once but fortunately I had a 4 track Tascam and I recorded everything I did weather it sounded like crap or not because of the sounds and the sonics. Now with stem separation man I’m golden. It’s like Back to the Future. 😂 But what I’m trying to say for me limitations made me a better creator because I had to make do and figure it out. Look at the Teenager Engineering Ko2 it’s limited but people love it but the Ableton Move has 1,500 sounds and 64 gigs as opposed to 64 mb on the KO2 and it’s built like a tank. I can record what I need combine 2 tracks if I need upload it to the cloud and continue working. Meanwhile the original with the 4 tracks are still there. I can even use my phone to up load if I don’t have my computer. Then pick up later with Ableton but I’ve gotten my ideal and then some. Just bounce your tracks. It work for the Beetles till Mr Les Paul came to the rescue with the first 8 tracks. I also have a MPC One Plus and a Maschine Plus and a SP404MK2 and they each have there challenges but it’s worth it to keep the mind and body going. I ain’t trying ta feed no pigeons!😂Have a great day Fam and keep it pushing!😎

[@WillHatton]

Thanks so much for your wonderful comment, it was so insightful to hear about your journey. I studied drums classically, so missed out on a lot of new gear when I was young but my first bit of kit when I finally did dive into production was also the Tascam 4 track you mentioned, loved that thing (actually keep a close eye on similar Tascam's these days to actually go back to tape for a bit of nostalgic noodling!) Agreed on all fronst of your comment, I definitely enjoy the challenges and workflows of the Maschine and SP404, I would very much like to dive into the MPC One soon to see how it compares as well, from a drummers perspective it often comes down to the response of the pads though, which the Maschine really knocks it out of the park for! Fantastic conversing with you, hope to catch you again soon!

[@tiholee4916]

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[@why0gilliams]

Yeah yeap, watched that update video from Ableton and when that dude went like: "Nope, only four tracks forever end of story gday and gbye"..I knew that Move will never be something I could use. True and quite sad actually.. 😢🎉

[@WillHatton]

Very strange, even the KO folks were like "we're going to try and fix these things that people don't like or problematic", Ableton were like nope and so many of the comments (including the original person asking the Q) replied "no worries, we love it!" Strange.

[@egrets_666]

i scored a used push 2 after the push 3 announcement for less than $250 that alone is making it hard to rationalize

[@WillHatton]

That's a steal and as long as you're happy not going standalone, I think you're sorted!

[@drewgrit_]

Your point about the chuck sutton demo for 12 is very smart. Great video man🙌

[@richtreloar]

Personally, I love the Move. I've only had it for a week but it's a great device for sketching ideas. I love that I can make music on this without being in front of a computer screen. I can then finish arranging the project in Ableton on the computer. I think people are missing the point of this.

[@Geekraver]

I missed the return window unfortunately but agree; it’s too limited for the price, feels half-baked, and you can do a lot better for the price (e.g. a used MC-101 is a way more capable device). Sure you can transfer stuff easily into Ableton, but how much are you going to create with this that you would even want to? That said, a lot of people seem happy with it so maybe it’s just me. I much prefer synth tracks to samples so the 4 track limit is a real issue for me.

[@WillHatton]

I feel you! And it’s not like anybody was banging there head against a wall trying to import to Ableton previously? Audio is fine!

[@DisintegrationZerfall]

We have fast laptops for almost 20 years at this piont. These are full blown computers that are portable. Duh! Why do you need one of these gooveboxes if you can have a full on DAW system in your backpack?! No limit to 4 tracks, no fiddly menu diving, no learning curve. You can finish your "on the way" skits easily when you are back home without transferring them. I will never understand why these devices have a place on the market. I also never got the appeal of Push outside of a live performing tool.

[@DavidDeLuge]

Because working in a DAW is soulless for many. I’m a software developer by day and so the last thing I would want to do is sit in front of a laptop making music with a mouse and/or midi keyboard. I’m all about the DAWless experience where there are knobs per function and you interact with the instrument. You simply don’t get that with a DAW and if that was my only option, I simply wouldn’t make music. There’s no one size fits all.

[@DisintegrationZerfall]

​@@DavidDeLuge Well I mostly produce with Hardware synths at home, I'm all for the "haptic" experience but I would never fall for these compromised portable devices as they simply never could replace a DAW. Even in my Studio I would never go DAWless as Ableton Live is just too easy and simple to use and I want to be efficient to get my ideas out.

[@expander3710]

Because you will never beat the physical control of hardware. The point of grooveboxes is they aren’t laptops; they’re something much better.

[@DavidDeLuge]

@@expander3710 100% 👍🏻

[@fridmanator]

2:19 take the left finger one up and one to the left and you’re there. I don’t understand why you expected a keyboard. There’s a whole theory about playing chords on pads like that, although I prefer chromatic mode. Anyway, you just need to practice.

[@howlinberry1645]

Abletons confirmation it will always be 4! tracks was the nail in the coffin for it.

[@fumarolas]

I didn't gel with the workflow so I thought, let's try as a controller. But afaik there's no MIDI editor for it, so you can't really decide what the pads and knobs do in details, like a regular Midi controller. Sadly returned it, my laptop and controller are way enough

[@WillHatton]

After you have a few midi devices (I have a midi keyboard, a maschine and a launch pad here) you soon get over the novelty of "ooh, I can hit record and my DAW records... ooh I can hit play and my DAW plays", y'know? Actual integration would be phenomenal and for that, I think the Push 3 is where it shines.

[@francisjohnluke]

Appreciate the honest review man! I was thinking of picking one up but i just don't see the use case for me personally

[@WillHatton]

No probs my friend, I don't think it's a tool for serious producers. Not yet anyway, we'll see what the future brings, always happy to be proven wrong!

[@nrosko]

I think it's great, I can just pick it up take it wherever & bash something out quickly & then its in Live for me to work on later. Getting more use out of it than i ever did with my digiton & digitac.

[@kimiuk]

It’s definitely interesting, but I think it’s one those things where the future revision which if the device is successful in sales, will fix it. I’m very on the fence on it, maybe would pick it up on sale if it ever does, But hella good review will

[@MarkAntares]

So far, I fail to comprehend how this product surpasses Roland Groovebox products that connect via USB to any DAW. I welcome constructive criticism, but we’ll see if it’s substantiated beyond vague opinions.

[@miaroscfala]

Some balance. I needed that, nearly lost my head - buy button open in the very next browser tab! 😄

[@SKRDyaheard]

Very interested. Got mine as well, but it still does feel quite limited. I still prefer jamming on the DT2. But: everytime I am playing with just the move I do enjoy it! So what more to ask... But I agree with you; if you own a laptop and Ableton you basically have a more powerful option.

[@WillHatton]

That's a great point, when I was noodling with it and zoning out watching TV at the same time, I can't say I wasn't enjoying my time but I don't think I'd have taken any of those ideas away from the Move like I would the SP404 (then again, the SP requires more of my attention!)

[@calcutlass]

Great review brother.

[@WillHatton]

Much appreciated!

[@GirlfightClub]

Love my Move and I never even use Ableton live

[@WillHatton]

Awesome!

[@DeeDeeCHAUNCEY]

4 tracks is too limiting no matter what anyone says

[@GrayedSchool]

it’s not

[@franknicholls4698]

why do people keep saying this lol. it’s basically 64 tracks if you use samples, it’s more than enough for what it is (a sketch pad).

[@DeeDeeCHAUNCEY]

​@@franknicholls4698 Why do people repeating the 64 tracks meme? There are just so many situations when that's not an adequate alternative to having another track or two. Even on a sketchpad.

[@fatradgie]

Good points, well presented

[@envo]

Actually the manual gives you every important information about the modes and functions.

[@HitansuPatnaik33]

Why would you even try to find out advanced options and choices in MOVE, when it clearly shows what MOVE is capable of. It is for the ultimate focus on instrumentations, just like A person who plays guitar, Enjoying his instrumenting or A drummer playing his own kit and getting into his zone. Why don’t you say - ‘ There are lack of instrumentation in nowadays music’ A producer always should try to find out new ways to make Music efficiently and effectively, rather being always staying in comfort Zone. Just one constructive feedback mate.

[@InRoB-Music]

I guess the move is more for people who try to don’t use ableton.. more for dawless guys, these guys don’t see the limitations as ableton users do.. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mlou4902]

Damn I just bought and waiting to ship lol. Already regretting it based off of watching this!

[@WillHatton]

Noooooo, don't say that! It's still exciting and I had fun creating but just think about how YOU the artist will want to use it and flip it on it's head!

[@HULK373]

You won’t regret it. Everybody’s opinion is just that. There limitations with the machine may not be yours. It’s great to hear other opinions but at the end of the day the choice is your. People complain about Ableton 12 update now look there swinging for the fences and people are loving it. I love mine. I’m a sample base Producer that use samples around my beat. This thing has 1,500 sounds built in and the ease of use is so refreshing compared to the SP404MK2. I understand it now but it was very frustrating in the beginning 😢but I left it alone for about 2 months and after a quick refresher I love that thing and will never sell it along with the Move. Have a great day Fam!😎

[@bboygavin]

I must admit that I initially found it challenging to evaluate your critique. However, when you presented a clear case for how to apply your feedback and demonstrated an example that sounded appealing, everything you pointed out made sense. You did an excellent job of carefully balancing the product's strengths and weaknesses while highlighting a strong use case. This thoughtful approach can lead to greater customer satisfaction by establishing better expectations. well done sir. Ableton! give this man a job!

[@WillHatton]

Appreciate your kind comments, thanks! I tried my best!

[@Marco-ek8wu]

Hey Will, I’ve been far too vocal on this already but out of pure frustration I can’t help but comment when I see a review. Totally agree with you btw. I love ableton as a company and own both suite (since v1) and push 3. I really wanted this to work for me and I was missing a device like this in my setup. BUT they really messed this up. I don’t know who was advising them on Beta but if I had spent 10 minutes in that meeting I would have said better processor and let’s get 8 tracks in there. The controller mode layout would work for 8 tracks too and mirror note and push workflows. Use the current track selection buttons for scenes and use up all 8 tracks. Step sequencer for solo and rec arm whilst in clip view. No side chain, no auto warp (if only basic) and no 4th scale mode. The very idea of having this as a couch machine to then flesh out in live is perfect but it has to be 8 tracks as we know in modern dance music that track count can get silly so 8 for me is enough to get an idea across and have some real meat to work on when exporting to live. 4 tracks looks pathetic. This limitation caused it to be very short lived as it doesn’t take long to run out of tracks. Those limitations are forcing Ableton to adopt a new sales take and it’s now appealing to those who want a little groove box for sampling, running external gear etc. That wasn’t abletons intention. This was supposed to be like a hardware version of note within the Ableton ecosystem. Yet note has 8 tracks. Controller mode is awful, buggy, no sends, no pans, no easy track volumes and it’s drains a MacBook Pro laptop battery in record time. Get to track 5 onwards and it’s a mess. Everything is fixable as the hardware currently stands but that processor (2019) is the bottle neck stopping them saving it. Move 2 yes but that’s a difficult move as it’s going to lose confidence for those who bought the first version. Rock and a hard place. Pros, it’s a great size, well built, preset browse is awesome (I want this in live), battery, wifi, step sequencer, fast workflow, built in mic, nice pads and knobs. An advanced version of the software would really suit the push 3 with an arm processor, rather than the current ableton port. It should have been x4 track note, x8 track move, then Push 3 with advanced software. Live to polish and add vsts etc. I returned mine btw but miss it as it was almost there but I know deep down the processor won’t allow the update it needs to succeed. Just my option and I’m sure others will like it. For the money MPC One is hard to beat in this price range. Push 2 used if you want a controller for live.

[@WillHatton]

Really appreciate you taking the time to write out your thoughts and frustrations! I'm not here to bash them but I do side with most things you've said here, a couch machine is absolutely fine but - it's a ghastly expensive one at that! I could grab a second hand macbook and jump on BandLab!

[@Marco-ek8wu]

@ haha true. I jam out quite a bit with friends and having a small device like this would have been perfect, more fun than the laptop. The workflow was super fast and for once I actually liked abletons presets, then I hit the four track limit just when I had that next sound in my head.

[@shanewyatt1793]

This would of been amazing if it came out 35 yrs ago but makes no practical sense today. It really is a super over priced midi controller/launcher with some minor standalone features. If they would of dropped the standalone features and cut the price in half this would be an amazing product for Live users. Tries to do many things but ends up not really doing anything.

[@Emtrax.]

Compared to anything else on the market under 500 euro it's the best standalone. With this you can come up with ideas and then easily put it into a daw. While standalones like the KO 2 are gimmicks. The chances of you actually finishing a proper song with that is definitely low.

[@RobotSnake]

You've clearly never held one. Most people talking like this are just convincing themselves.

[@shanewyatt1793]

@@RobotSnake To even call the move a Standalone is like calling and etch a sketch a stand alone graphic design device.. And I realize I'm a dinosaur and no one under 30 knows what a etch a sketch is.

[@RobotSnake]

@@shanewyatt1793 I'm talking about you. You have no idea what you are talking about. The Drift and Wavetable in a portable form alone make it better than tons of gear. It's capable of way more than 4 tracks too. Some features like probability and assignable macros would take it next level but with a small midi controller this thing is next level as a portable sketchpad. Are you one of those people that complains about all gear lacking features as an excuse to never write music?

[@shanewyatt1793]

@RobotSnake Apologies for the misunderstanding. My point is that it's way too overpriced for an idea maker. I dont know where the excuse comment fits in to the discussion. Wanting this can be seen as thinking "if I get this then I'll be able to make more music". Maybe im cheap, but to me, It crazy to buy a 500 dollar mini controller just for a portable sketch pad to use wavetable, or make when a laptop with a small laincher is pretty much as portable. Both will probably sit on your "lap" or on a table, both ideal places for a modern macbook. Its like buying a portable moped for slightly less then a actual car.

[@dzerobeatz]

So now you are deleting comments huh?

[@WillHatton]

I haven’t deleted any comments, no?

[@dzerobeatz]

@@WillHatton Yes I have now posted two comments and they both have been removed

[@WillHatton]

@@dzerobeatz I assume it's because you posted in quick succession and KZbin flagged it as spam. Wasn't me, I even checked for your comments in the "held for review" tools. If you had a negative opinion, I wouldn't delete, I'd try and have a conversation :)

[@Emtrax.]

1:04

[@pwiegardt]

Thanks for the honest review. I consiered the Move, but ended up going for a Push 3 when they were on sale recently. It's been great to get me back into making beats after getting frustrated with the PC experience and giving up a couple years ago. If you haven't already seen it Jay Hosking did a nice little live jam to demo the Move kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5CsZIyVd6qlrNk

[@badatmath.]

You just saved me $400 and a headache. Thanks dude.

[@WillHatton]

Happy to help!

[@art-thou-gomeo]

Ableton Note is a better product than Ableton Move, at 1% of the price IMHO

[@WillHatton]

This is real good point! In the pocket, perfect for train journeys not as limited. I should have thrown that as an opinion in the video really.

[@DeeDeeCHAUNCEY]

Oh, you took a distrokid sponsorship after already having a big patreon base. You people are so greedy. Why is the patreon not enough? Might as well make a deal with Better Help next.

[@WillHatton]

Hey DeeDee, I actually just replied to your last negative comment, you're typing faster than I can keep up with. You'll find I actually give so much away for free or less than a coffee at the Patreon, it's mostly something I set up to help work with producers on a 1-2-1 basis, nobody is forced to sign up and it's entirely community focused, we've had so many kind souls make new close friends and collaborators through it. Unfortunately, in the UK, Patreon isn't enough to keep most creators afloat so we have to rely on sponsorships too. I hope one day you'll even be curious to join our little corner of the internet. If you ever fancy a free trial, shoot me an email and perhaps we can catch a call on the house! ❤

[@DeeDeeCHAUNCEY]

@@WillHatton Hi Will, thanks for replying, but it doesn't answer the question. You should still have integrity when it comes to who you take sponsorships from.

[@DeeDeeCHAUNCEY]

​@@WillHatton And I'm not trying to be a troll or anything. It's a legitimate criticism, especially with Distrokid's recent track record. Anyways, thanks for the video. As a Move user, it's nice to see some criticism that reflects some of my issues with the device.

[@DeeDeeCHAUNCEY]

LOL DISTROKID??? The day after they fire all of their union members??? Was enjoying your video. Now I’ll downvote and move on.

[@WillHatton]

Hey, I appreciate you sharing your perspective! I get that this situation has sparked a lot of strong feelings, and I understand where you're coming from. I'd encourage us to have these conversations with nuance instead of resorting to downvotes-but of course, that's up to you! Here's some food for thought: sponsorships like mine often keep creators afloat, allowing us to produce the content you enjoy. While I don’t know all the ins and outs of what goes on at DistroKid (or any large company), it’s worth noting that many leading businesses face similar scrutiny-Spotify, Amazon, or Starbucks, for example. Most of us navigate these complexities daily, even when they conflict with our ideals but despite that continue to buy our coffee, order over night and create playlists that offer artists 0.001 cent per play... That said, I value staying informed and am always open to dialogue. I don’t think any distribution service, whether DistroKid, CD Baby, or TuneCore, is above critique. The internet moves quickly to cast judgment sadly, but I believe it’s important to take the time to listen, learn, and engage meaningfully. My final thought is that I really think it's too early to tell how DistroKid or any large scale operation is moving forward in the land of AI, ethics and consumerism. Thanks for your comment, and I hope this response helps share where I’m coming from!

[@WillHatton]

Hey, I appreciate you sharing your perspective! I get that this situation has sparked a lot of strong feelings, and I understand where you're coming from. I'd encourage us to have these conversations with nuance instead of resorting to downvotes-but of course, that's up to you! Here's some food for thought: sponsorships like mine often keep creators afloat, allowing us to produce the content you enjoy. While I don’t know all the ins and outs of what goes on at DistroKid (or any large company), it’s worth noting that many leading businesses face similar scrutiny-Spotify, Amazon, or Starbucks, for example. Most of us navigate these complexities daily, even when they conflict with our ideals but despite that continue to buy our coffee, order over night and create playlists that offer artists 0.001 cent per play... That said, I value staying informed and am always open to dialogue. I don’t think any distribution service, whether DistroKid, CD Baby, or TuneCore, is above critique. The internet moves quickly to cast judgment sadly, but I believe it’s important to take the time to listen, learn, and engage meaningfully. My final thought is that I really think it's too early to tell how DistroKid or any large scale operation is moving forward in the land of AI, ethics and consumerism. Thanks for your comment, and I hope this response helps share where I’m coming from!

[@mauricearroyo6488]

This device is meant to sketch something and then move it to Ableton!!!! This review is rigged and biased, criticized all of the unfinished projects and then stating whether or not we would listen to it 😂 hilarious!!! It's not even a finished project!!!!! Bad review in my opinion!

[@joeyp1028]

Yeah but the style of beats doesn’t sound very good/listenable, compared to say KO2

[@WillHatton]

Why would the review be rigged? 😂 I highlighted three areas I really enjoyed using the device where i think it excels. As another member mentioned in reply of your comment, I don't think the "demo sketches" they supplied sound very appealing, even as a starting point. That's a fair and valid opinion to have, no? Have you ever started a track and with one chord progression or groove you harness the imagination of what the rest of the song might sound like? I'm sure you have... Well, the move just didn't do that for me and I think that's an interesting point coming from the Ableton team. I think it was maybe rushed to be out before Christmas and as a result has some limitations.