Sean Plunket & Ben Espiner discuss the teaching of disinformation in schools

[@poncholarpez6233]

Has Kate Hannah investigated the breakfast hosts for shooting at the Trump doll yet???

[@catherinesyme901]

That was disgusting!

[@paulmcewen]

@@catherinesyme901 The whole lot of these woke muppets need the boot, worst show on television. You need to put some adults on the show and get rid of these childish idiots.

[@catherinesyme901]

@@paulmcewen yeah I stopped watching them along time ago! Bunch of muppets is right!

[@catherinesyme901]

I’m so glad I pulled my kid from school! No more state propaganda for my lad!

[@jackdeniston59]

So, two truths needed 1) White Men ENDED slavery 2) The wage gap is a lie

[@cameron132]

Jesus, didn't realise we live in such an orwellian regime Catherine...🤣

[@basilwatson1]

mine to ! he did it by himself

[@francesbrown850]

I’m a teacher and I would ‘home teach’ if I could!

[@catherinesyme901]

@@francesbrown850 if you can wrangle it, is is soooooo worth it! I’m not going lie, financially it’s a bit of a hit but you make up for no child care cost and running around and you get to set the curriculum! My lad learnt more in the last year than he probably did in 2-3 years at school, with half the time in class and lot of life skills chucked in like gardening, cooking tea every night! fence building, and the fact your teacher, that’s awesome!!! That’s most of the battle right there!

[@Patrick-rj8gh]

Teaching kids how to spot "disinformation". Great idea. The kids can keep an eye on their parents. I think they do that sort of thing in North Korea.

[@darkparker7500]

The Ministry of Truth.

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

The Ministry of Struth!🌈🤡's

[@catherinesyme901]

@@Peter_Pepper_Love 😂❤

[@pinkybar7328]

ministry of lies

[@andreatodd3095]

Who would be the watch dog to make sure the content taught in schools is not propaganda? Parents might like to sit in on these classes to see what they are about.?

[@kathleenlewis1954]

Along with teaching the new history of NZ and gender idology

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

🦄🐒🌈pride cum's before the fall!

[@cameron132]

What? The correct interpretation of NZ History and not the simple European centric version being spit out for the last 180 years?

[@chchwoman9960]

@@cameron132 Are they being taught that some settlers purchased land off Maori? Or are they taught that it was all stolen?

[@cameron132]

@@chchwoman9960 Good question. You can read the full curriculum on the MoE website. No secrets or agenda. Land was confiscated, yes, and people like my great-great grandfather purchased land (which had been confiscated, not that he probably knew this at the time). ANZH teaches the nuance of NZ's past - there were two people looking for new horizons. Yes, we have darkness and that rightly needs to be acknowledged. But nobody is getting up in front of the whiteboard preeching white shame and privilege. Just facts based on a significant historical data set.

[@francesbrown850]

And you should see the Primary School sexuality curriculum. It’s a shocker.

[@TheArtofMentalAlchemy]

I think everyone could do with a bit of training in Perspectives and Perceptual Variances but we’re not incompetent human beings, we have and innate ability to identify our own truth based on what information we choose to gather. We don’t need small group of people sitting behind a keyboard deciding if our posts and opinions are right or wrong either.

[@geraldcoffey3303]

Great work guys.The word sinister comes to mind

[@jbm8444]

Ben is both smart and a crack up , keep him on Sean , don't lose him to RNZ.

[@LisaElaine]

I've been concerned about the disinformation project for some time, and have also struggled to get any answers regarding funders, purpose etc. Biden administration tried to engage a similar group and it was blocked by the opposition, unbelievable that a group like this has managed to be established in NZ.

[@OXSEnterprises]

Kate Hannah has got to be in the running for the worst New Zealander of the year

[@basilwatson1]

and shes is up against some stiff competition too!

[@OXSEnterprises]

Pretty incredible to think all this came from some people not agreeing with the vaccine push.

[@PuhiPureBloOdYT]

Well they do call themselves the Disinformation Project so at least they are being honest about their intentions

[@pinkybar7328]

germany was doing it with kids during ww2

[@LeonVerhulst]

School is shite. My kids won’t like it but I’ll remove them from school if this continues

[@paniaparata6334]

Q. Is the Christchurch Mosque Shooter still in NZ?

[@ronnymcdonald2543]

He's prolly on a kabutz in Israel lol

[@antonroest2849]

That would be an anti-semetic comment.

[@ronnymcdonald2543]

@@antonroest2849 No that would be an anti Zionist comment and interestingly he had spent time on a kabutz before coming to NZ !

[@TheMarathonomahos]

People will laugh at the braided hair and home decoration, but that's exactly what they said.

[@cassandragaisford2777]

chantelle baker was deplatformed twice… does anyone know whats happened

[@warwickyoung120]

Now, don't get big headed, Ben, but very well done. An articulate young man with a good brain.

[@mikehern2979]

Waiting for the government to appoint a Minister of Public Enlightenment

[@richardbruce8111]

Some old advice still works! Kipling... I have 6 faithful serving men who taught me all I knew----- Their names are...WHAT, & WHERE..& WHEN..& HOW ..& WHY...& WHO . ___ Simple now you simply VERIFY the result ! It is easier today to actually check out, contact ,, & see the actual claim than it has ever been. To drill deeper ask WHAT SPECIFICALLY & keep at it

[@andreatodd3095]

Got it in one. .well said

[@hoani1000]

So you will believe what I tell you to believe , got it , yes sir mister Hitler.

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

Don't blame daddy🤚🏻🧐💛

[@francesbrown850]

I’m a teacher and we’ve always taught critical thinking skills but THIS is something else. The agenda behind it is sinister.

[@cameron132]

This is such a far stretch from reality. I'm a teacher and we do not have any of what's mentioned occurring in NZ education and/or being promoted by Ministry sources. We will always teach critical thinking but I can tell you that children are far more influenced by their parents political beliefs than adopted any teachers opinion. It's actively discouraged to ever promote any political bias in your teaching and is addressed if you are caught doing so.

[@jackohere1878]

Thanks for that as I agree the content in this story seems like the platforms own fake news. Personally I see nothing wrong with teaching anyone how to spot on line "fake news" / scam artists and conspiracy theories etc.In fact it should be taught. These platform guys often seem to be stuck in the past and hate seeing their privileged/comfy lives under what they perceive as some sort of threat (eg sly digs at Maori names of any govt organization) but they certainly have a following of like minded folk often jumping at their own shadows

[@cameron132]

@@jackohere1878 it's a real shame, because this platform has a lot of potential and at times does great things but also let's itself down with the anti Maori name calling stuff and blowing this stuff out of proportion. The media doesn't realise that communities will come into my classroom and start accusing me of indoctrinating kids because of segments like this.

[@francesbrown850]

I’m also a teacher and I’m shocked at what some politically minded liberal teachers are saying in their classrooms.

[@jackohere1878]

@@francesbrown850 Can you give genuine examples of exactly what they say?

[@magingi]

More memory holes than a dementia patient and more shadow bans than dark matter...is the NZ main stream media and NZ universities who like to narrate to such extent that discourse is unilaterally confined to a woke objective contingent on cancel culture.

[@FLSTFB103]

Where can I obtain one of these guides on how to spot a hater or possible terrorist?

[@SRM_NZ]

what a great channel......will there ever be a history course about disinformation ??? will there be disinformation around the history of the 1970's?

[@damageincorporated8558]

My son is in his third year at college, it seems like every crackpot idea coming out of the states is fast tracked into the curriculum, it's just not a unique world leading attitude anymore, We're Kiwis, that used to be our advantage

[@charlottemay8074]

What about your own research and listening to your gut instinct as well. I'd say the schools are 'teaching' the children both not to do their own research, nor to respect their gut feelings.

[@judyfox]

Yes you are right. My grandson did some of his own research regarding a topic they were learning at school. He added this into his exam answer (the informationwas historically correct). He was failed, citing 'this information was not taught at school so you cannot put it in your exam answers'.

[@ruslingmcgehan7137]

Well spotted and thanks for taking a stand against weaponised media

[@jacquelinedollard5791]

DIP sounds unhinged

[@carmenslee6234]

Hang on Sean! You are/were completely biased when it came to the protesters who were at parliament. Maybe you need to revisit that one and hear truth!?

[@geofflewis8599]

..There is an odd relationship between (some) feminists and Maori racist-nationalists, which I think runs along the line of ''my enemy's enemy is my friend'..

[@tokokemp1351]

Having fun with the truth...go on what you got

[@Sharpy7562]

probably lived my whole life with little or no information of any use but have had a wonderful life of family travel great jobs despite history wars petulance etc .im a conspiracy theorist and that hasnt stopped me having a great life of adventure sucess either .created my own reality fake info or not .there is no truth in life ever too many tentacles come into it

[@gabrielrobbins8800]

Unless of course they think your words pose a physical threat of violence... and then again that's probably exactly what they think :(

[@barrygeary9362]

I think they will lose Gov funding if they don't do what they are told

[@cassandragaisford2777]

sure Chippy will come on and tell you what they are trying to achieve

[@camban]

Ben Espiner: The Thinking Person’s Crumpet 😆

[@accessaryman]

once the universities became woke and produce these woke bleeding hearts, we ended up with an ilk that feel their opinions supersede popular opinion, and society sound follow their thoughts, we see this with the modern teaching of the history treaty of Waitangi, and this complete phaf with the climate change issue, teachers making up the own teaching curriculum, it is some that has been let to happen, and needs to change.

[@markbenge7288]

Seems that misinformation and disinformation change like the wind. Therefore, these grifters, will never front up and answer questions. There is serious Cover Your Arse going on. Don’t commit to anything, continue getting the Money. Wahoo. 🎉🇳🇿NZ

[@basilwatson1]

wot you mean they are going to start teaching the "Trivium?" or lord forbid the "Quadrivium"? or is that still reserved for the oxbridge elite? Ya can have the great unwashed " a thunking" ya just want em to understand the machine instructions and be happy with their lot in life,, lord forbid they go a thinking

[@craigshaw9773]

Disinformation in schools christ you drongos in the media should learn this first

[@russellturner1909]

False information? That's you

[@richardbruce8111]

So what specifically is FALSE here? HUH?

[@russellturner1909]

@@richardbruce8111 Ask him genius he's talking about it

[@roddas26]

@@russellturner1909 great deflection Russell. What are you scared of?

[@rippedup1931]

You triggered mate?

[@russellturner1909]

@@roddas26 Dumb people what else

[@andrewjohn4876]

Definition of Disinformation: Sean Plunket talking about disinformation.