Plunket vs Gower: The Platform Cold Calls Paddy Gower & Offers the Hand of Friendship

Plunket vs Gower: The Platform cold calls Paddy Gower and offers the hand of friendship.
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[@barefootonasandybeach638]

Good grief… it’s all about Gower. This is the guy that still can’t come to grips with why the public distrust media.

[@badchefi]

It’s only a small minority - if you really would distrust media you’d have to be suspicious of old Sean too.

[@gcallananpainting]

​@@badchefi Lack of critical thinking there.

[@jameskjx]

cos they're all shit. funnily enough the most trusted brand is RNZ. that's what got Plunket his profile after all. TVNZ is the second most trusted. The solution is obvious: sell TVNZ, fund RNZ property as the public service broadcaster... Restart TVNZ7 as RNZ7 on TV. Done.

[@valeriehughes1008]

@@badchefiTotal mistrust of Newshub with their beat up stories, lies, misinformation and refusing to apologise when caught out ... in the end the public have had enough of them... despite how Gower paints it the loss of TV3 advertising was down mainly to the likes of himself who are largely responsible for the loss of audience.

[@musicalHootenanny]

@@badchefi we are

[@davidtuson5900]

Gower is the epitome of what is going wrong in New Zealand

[@chrislind2881]

So inept...and innane🤔

[@richardwendt9266]

I'm getting rather annoyed with this attitude. New Zealand is not America. Gower is not wrong/bad. Just because you don't like what he says, does not make him wrong.

[@stevehughes1510]

@@richardwendt9266 He bats for the left Rick, and is part of the PIJF crew, that and his attitude put him at a huge disadvantage this day and age. The majority of kiwi's don't like smartarse lefties.

[@richardwendt9266]

​@@stevehughes1510 Why the F*ck do we need to keep up this left right BS. WE ARE NOT AMERICA. DO NOT TRY F*CK OUR COUNTRY LIKE THAT. When you want to discuss this through the lense of the effects on journalism with humility and without blaming those political ideologies you've chosen to make your enemy, then we can move forward.

[@jasperhorace7147]

@@richardwendt9266 Doesn’t make him right either‼

[@andym1134]

I love how a journalist doesn't like being phone called and put on the spot, the irony.

[@jeremyadrian233]

And how they like to talk over the questions, something they always complain derails the interview.

[@stephenhoward7454]

@@jeremyadrian233Both guilty as charged.

[@rfarrr2817]

The Cognitive Dissonance is strong with Gower

[@beazjohnson9865]

Journalists only call people out if they are avoiding an interview and the topic has a strong public interest. This is not that kind of interview, so Paddy has a point.

[@stephenhoward7454]

@@beazjohnson9865 Rubbish, if your in the public spotlight to seek income you're all fair game.

[@marinclay2405]

Gower is awful. When he hi-fived other colleagues after the 2020 Labour win, congratulating other journalists on The Project, we knew then the Bias was too ingrained. The media has no place for this kind of journalist. This ego has been cancelled. Long live impartial journalism.

[@5150show]

💥 boom , you nailed it

[@timshields8720]

Agreed!!!!!

[@timshields8720]

Agreed!!!

[@rickseyb2993]

Gower is great, I heard Heather Du Pless complaining that 80 % of journalists are left leaning contrary to her extreme biased right wing views, well 80% of journalists are honest, intelligent, enlightened and report the truth

[@5150show]

@@rickseyb2993 good luck with finding a new job . You're gonna need it with lies like that in your next job

[@magamike1800]

Paddy has tissues.

[@badchefi]

He wasn’t crying - have you even listened to the whole thing? MAGA tells me your attention span is below 20 seconds😂

[@barefootonasandybeach638]

bad… you’re at it again.. you just don’t get it, he was one of the contributing factors in the collapse of newshub. Go woke, go broke.

[@patriciakimber4312]

Funny 😁

[@patriciakimber4312]

@@badchefiare you serious or do you not have a sense of humour ffs

[@enichols4835]

And issues. 😅

[@yingle6027]

Paddy Gower 2021: "Why are White men in NZ so angry??" Paddy Gower 2024: 😡😡😡

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

Paddy needs to "Seek Higher"🙋‍♂️💛

[@bookbinder66]

😆

[@Colin_Izer1111]

@@Peter_Pepper_Love Paddy "Goldenshoa"🚿Gower only ever seeks lower.🤦‍♂

[@aaronbradley6790]

What do you mean white men ???? Keep ua rascal bulshit to yr self ah

[@roilhead]

White Kiwi men are not angry, it's the white socialist puppets that are out to control our view.

[@maieldmik5233]

Good work Sean. Leave him to go back to his sulking corner. Too arrogant to realise how he got to where he his.

[@gayejenkins7913]

I totally agree

[@chriskiwi2601]

Absolutely!! An arrogant up start!!

[@rogermartin8435]

Paddy is an angry oaf. I give him some leeway as he has just lost his job with imo no hope of a similar job in New Zealand. But really i do not like his journalism

[@badchefi]

You haven’t listened to the whole interview then right?

[@rogermartin8435]

​@@badchefi wrong. Remember the dangers of assuming. Yep watched the whole 10mins. My opinion of Gower is in the round. It will be interesting to see which journalists survive this cull by natural selection. There will be many entitled doyens who will be dismissed from the media trough long enjoyed.

[@schlookie]

​@@badchefigrow up

[@ninjajunior4422]

Angrier than Shaun? Lol that's a good one 😅

[@rogermartin8435]

All a question of perspective and ideological bent. Now that the last government

[@sonnyday6830]

I still recall that day Gower got his arse handed to him by Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux lol

[@jimfairgray4607]

Yeah that was so funny. He didn't even realize he was completely outclassed!

[@jasongander5331]

Haha yes! They made him look like the ill equipped idiot that he really is... Good riddance to him

[@janec1242]

that was a viral GLOBAL moment. Paddy was way way way out of his depth...

He reminds me of the Mad Magazine guy, Alfred E. Neumann.

[@RebNebtheWeirdo]

Sorry, made the same comment without looking first.

[@andrewoh1663]

LOL Gower has no capacity for self reflection.

[@lynnebarnes3840]

Nor has Sean, he can't tolerate anyone disagreeing with him.

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

@@lynnebarnes3840 God isn't impressed☝️😇💛

[@urbanegorilla6005]

With a face like his, you wouldn't like a reflection either😀

[@lynnebarnes3840]

@@Peter_Pepper_Love God told the Jews, it's a sin to try to create a Jewish state, because of their sins. It's in their own book. They can go back when the hand of God rebuilds the Temple. Not the hand of man.

[@lynnebarnes3840]

@@urbanegorilla6005 ouch! But let's be honest both of them are best suited to radio.

[@delinquentinparadise]

I hope this Paddy Gower never ever gets another job as a journalist. He is a self centred egotistical person who considers his own opinions of more importance than anyone else’s. Journalism should be about the reporting of facts rather than opinions. I doubt that Gower will ever understand that.

[@roilhead]

He took our tax dollars stuffed them in his pocket and then intentionally misled us. If he was being truthful Labour would be dissolved as a Party by now.

[@timshields8720]

Yup!

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Yes, agreed.lGet rid of him permanently. About time, no loss.At last Gower has got his come upence.

[@richardhale1866]

@@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj karma is a biarch

[@nevillesmith8457]

Paddy, better put your name down at KFC. There is no place for you in the media.

[@roilhead]

If they gave him a job I would stop going there as well. It's time Paddy departed NZ!

[@cperera910]

Finger licking come to a end at TVNZ.

[@ianandrews6890]

Grant Robertson takes up his new job as Otago University's Chancellor about the same time as Gower comes available in July. Maybe Grant needs a PR Manager?

[@MerikaBateman]

Just shows how arrogant self centered Paddy Gower is

[@chrismckellar9350]

Rubbish

[@schlookie]

​@chrismckellar9350 you speak rubbish

[@chrismckellar9350]

@@schlookie - So do you.

[@schlookie]

@@chrismckellar9350 I speak nothing but common sense.

[@chrismckellar9350]

@@schlookie -What common sense you are referring too.

[@megustalations6965]

What's hilarious about this is Paddy desperately didn't want the chat but his ego wouldn't let him hang up.

[@chriskiwi2601]

Yeah, well put.

[@garycody1929]

Paddy is a dropkick and deserves to be on the dole.

[@operatorsix6933]

bingo.

[@Thebuilder-v7q]

No he doesn’t deserve the dole

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

The dole is to good for him!

[@johnmartin7158]

Who’s to say you’re not one.

[@faarkit]

Could'nt agree more

[@katescott649]

Paddy Gower is a jerk, plain and simple.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Nothing new.

[@NZsarge1]

Personally I’d rather Gower chucked it in..

[@ACE1932DIECAST]

HahajajjajabannanannaaNabaahhahahahhaa😊

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Absolutely.

[@5150show]

Paddy hasn't been the same since he got owned by Stefan and Lauren.

[@sailing_rosie]

Not a single mention of the fact that trust in NZ's MSM has dropped to 33%??

[@youfritter]

that high? lol

[@namk2022]

Where is this quote from? Just interested

[@naturesoundsnz]

@@namk2022It was in the latest report (released a few days ago) about media ‘trust’ worldwide. Sean covered it yesterday I think.

[@namk2022]

@@naturesoundsnz thanks! I have always said this about nz media but it’s nice to have a reference

[@Jane-gv4vo]

Paddy, if the media had given the facts instead of woke biased journalism, you would still have a job.

[@Jane-gv4vo]

Absolutely right! Journalists seem to have forgotten what their job was supposed to be.

[@KenCrawford-n5k]

Gower is a waste of space 😊

[@chrismckellar9350]

Rubbish

[@cperera910]

Actually Space can be useful unlike Paddy.

[@Ambassador_Gkar]

@@cperera910 Except the space between his ears 🙃

[@jamieferguson7867]

Jah bless

[@schlookie]

​@@chrismckellar9350grow up

[@kir0nz]

Paddy is correct that the advertising revenue for TV has died. However, it's not due to the economy.

[@alexvalentine8724]

The Project is one program I will not miss go woke go broke

[@rustyboyspeed]

Hopefully we don’t have to listen to this toxic crap any more talk About entitled

[@daveewen334]

I was going to give him a chance to hear his side but Jesus it’s all about paddy , he sure does need tissues for his issues, glad they have all gone from the airwaves …, good on you Sean for trying mate

[@roilhead]

Amazingly he is still caught up in the Jacinda crazy land dream and hasn't found his way out. A good kick in his pocket will have him reevaluating his view but he will never be trusted by Kiwis ever again.

[@simonmeikle2673]

Paddy says democracy is under threat since he's lost his 6 figure, corporate media salary.😂 . He's as unrelatable as a RNZ journalist .

[@mozdickson]

Boom!

[@metalage9751]

When lefties use the phrase 'our democracy', what they're really saying is 'our power'.

[@metalage9751]

When lefties say 'our democracy', what they're really saying is 'our power'.

[@marinclay2405]

Comment saying he is a spoilt child, is on the mark.

[@1centimetre]

Paddy really got issues.

[@gracehowe3692]

And that's why Gower wont get a job,

[@christopherclayton8577]

Mr Gower - no loss.

[@badchefi]

He is better than five Sean’s.

[@valeriehughes1008]

@@badchefi Are you totally brain dead... the man is a screaming socialist and he is just saying anything it takes to keep himself relevant... which he hasn't been for the past 6+ years. He has pushed Labour propaganda and communism on us with endless rantings and opinions for years now and he never got the message the majority of NZ is well over his type of so called journalism. We want the facts and we will make up our own minds - we can actually think for ourselves. With the attitude he has he is virtually unemployable... but he will probably pop up in red Radio or somewhere equally woke!

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

@@badchefi 🤔

[@mikebrown7269]

@@badchefi Bumchum? Certainly sounds like it.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

@@badchefi rubbish !!!

[@windyboy78]

If you offer him a job there I will switch off plain and simple. Please be careful who you hire Sean. You are on the right side of history Sean and I hope you continue building with the right people

[@dlee9547]

Excuses.. Excuses.. I used to watch the news .UNTIL it went WOKE and super left.... go woke go broke ..bye bye Paddy

[@Samuel-bu7xr]

Don't blame the economy Paddy, the advertising revenue migrated with eyeballs.

[@jbm8444]

And NZME are going well.

[@nevillegrowcott1824]

Sounds like a spoilt child!

[@chrismckellar9350]

Rubbish

[@schlookie]

​@@chrismckellar9350grow up

[@bingading3673]

After listening to this conversation I have developed a strong urge to financially support The Platform....

[@Thebuilder-v7q]

Paddy is a crybaby, we have had enough of this nonsense from the MSM

[@barryscott6222]

Gower is a narcissist.

[@jpapare7404]

He doesn't get it, does he? He won't acknowledge that he and his brand are not wanted. For him to call himself a journalist is embarrassing to hear.

[@ninjajunior4422]

Paddy is a cry baby and yet here you are doing the exact same thing 😭🤣

[@oldsoul3733]

Paddy throwing a paddy about something that happened ages ago. And he talks about basic manners, maybe he should practice what he preaches. So glad he's disappearing from tv screens 🙏

[@RebNebtheWeirdo]

Do an interview with the clown and play him a recording of his interview with Lauren Southern and Molyneux. Wonder how he would reflect on that.

[@via_negativa6183]

I'm not the biggest fan of Molyneux but the medias coverage of those too here is exactly why MSM is failing in this country and around the world.

[@peteracclimatiseconz]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rX69iomtoqyWqcksi=IOvxLAPia4QBelco

[@colinpreston8232]

It is all about Paddy Gower and always has been. Some of us have been through this 3 times and no media cared. Get over it.

[@brettg4784]

Gower's most embarrassing moment was watching get exposed by Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux

[@geoffneal9146]

Credit to Paddy for staying on, and he's right that the Grant Machine destroyed the economy. Still a lot of defiance around not acknowledging the role media bias played in all this.

[@HunkyMan777]

Did everyone hear Paddy Gower having a meltdown over losing his job. PAddy be a man - you need to learn emotional intelligence

[@chrismckellar9350]

I guess you will be happy chappy when your are told that you no longer have a job.

[@Astrodoberman]

Does Paddy ever partake in any self reflection

[@cathybrind2381]

Only when he passes a mirror Winston isn't already using...

[@WillowburnPlants]

Gold interview Sean! Patrick Gower is living in fairy land.

[@navalfa7291]

I said this yesterday and will say it again; Just for fun. Patrick Gower has a face for Radio and a voice for print. I don't think he will survive.

[@RavenLove-gv9fs]

Give paddy a band-aid for his broken ass.

[@dobbynp]

What a wimp

[@gayjohnson5139]

I took part in an interview for Gower. I gave up an hour of my Saturday morning to be filmed. When my part was cut with practically no notice I emailed him to say that I thought it was very rude. Did he reply? No

[@daviddodds935]

I see where there are 300 jobs available with IKEA Paddy !

[@Freddy_fender]

Sean's been living rent free in paddy's head for years ha'lerious

[@andym1134]

The problem is the customer base have walked away, if these news shows were competitive they would still exist and imo they really only have themselves to blame.

[@rattedbug5003]

Basic manners what a knob

[@chrisblewden4545]

Kiwis want the truth not lies in there news

[@lifeliver9000]

It’s really that simple

[@Doghealer528]

Ita not independent media, when journalism is ruled by who funds them

[@barryscott6222]

Yeah, but by that metric - there is no independent media. They are all liars for their corporate/political masters

[@jjbraddock2702]

Businesses operate on "show me the money". Gower can't generate money for his overlords.

[@jbm8444]

Correct, he has issues.

[@davidscott4045]

He can get a job as a trolley boy at the supermarket

[@berniewilson371]

They're called trollyologists

[@mikeodonovan9299]

An insult to all trolley boys

[@eileencoulter6263]

He'd be usless at that job those boys and girls do an amazing job which paddy has never done

[@JackMeoff-gu7om]

Technology is the enemy of the truth. Full praise to the whole team at the Platform.

[@chrismckellar9350]

Why give full praise to the team at the Platform. What have they done to deserve it.

[@toast47624]

or lies?

[@via_negativa6183]

it's not technology thats the enemy of the truth it's your corrupt politicians colluding with the billionaires that control it.

[@Gogga7]

​@@chrismckellar9350We'll, they are still relevant, unlike newshub, and your comments

[@schlookie]

​@@chrismckellar9350grow up

[@iandennison2266]

"at least you had a nice tone", what, is paddy 6 years old?

[@badchefi]

Sean is the kid on this one😂

[@valeriehughes1008]

Gower and Co - did they have a nice tone when beating up a pack of lies on Posie Parker? Then misreporting what actually happened at the event? The man is all about gutter journalism and a screaming socialist who got into bed with Labour and hasn't woken up to the fact - they are no longer relevant either... NZ is better off he has gone. Only in his mind the public will miss him... the majority of us are counting down the days so see him LONG GONE!

[@hospitalcleaner]

Sean has a horrible, grating tone.

[@schlookie]

​@@badchefigrow up

[@rhettstaekchands5389]

Poor wee Paddy. An angry little man, both, mentally and physically. Thank you Shaun, for showing us, what a narcissistic man Paddy is.

[@OJB42]

I can remember Paddy chasing many people trying to get a comment, and he wasn't necessarily very polite, so that seems very hypocritical. He does make some fair points, but still fails to fully recognise the deficiencies in his and his colleagues' performances.

[@jonathanwright5550]

The clip of him chasing Bernie Sanders was grot

[@OJB42]

@@jonathanwright5550 Yeah that was hilarious. Bernie wanted nothing to do with him.

[@elizabethanderson3036]

No loss he's gone

[@PhilippeGianni]

I’m a white male I am not angry,,just really disappointed that people you generalise re skin colour ,caucasians(people of white skin developed in Northam India and spread all over the Anglo-Saxon,Nordic countries.I had a patient from the cooks his father was from the Cook Islands his mother was a Caucasian, he has 4 siblings three look like native Cook islanders the others are white.They are all equally happy. Why do the uneducated always look at skin colour,we are all human,with all the joys and sadness that goes with being human.

[@bluebull1246]

I agree, our blood is the same colour and the organs inside us are the same shapes. We feel the same, but some react differently.

[@dubstepXpower]

Yeah funny they differentiate Samoans, Fijians, Indians but just stereotype white people which isn't even an ethnicity.

[@MandySam13]

I agree. We are ALL part of the human race. That’s the only race there is. Everything else is just outward characteristics that make us look a bit different to each other. Besides that, there are ZERO fundamental differences between humans at all. Time we all woke up to this reality & stop perpetuating these divisions that serve no one.

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

Oil n water 🤷‍♂️

[@jarrodhayne560]

We didn’t develop in India you morrn, that’s fake news to make white people feel bad

[@DossNZ]

Hope this guy stays off the booze. What a mess.

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

He's m8's with Tory🍻🥴🥂

[@Peter-z3s9t]

Its too hard to listen to that thing

[@cashmorn70]

For a so called experienced journalist, those first four minutes of Gower raving away before he agrees to an interview says it all.

[@standstill0641]

We are better off without newshub and Paddy Gower.

[@susanpockett4314]

I haven't watched or listened to MSM for years now. I'll never trust them -- or the medical profession -- again.

[@marinedrive5484]

"Professional manner?" That's a bit rich coming from Gower, who's known for his aggressive 'Gotcha' style of interviewing. Why so defensive, Paddy? I thought Sean was pretty generous in his comments about you and your future prospects - good luck with that, old chap.

[@Jay-oh1li]

I'm convinced Paddy Gower thinks everyone in NZ loves him and agrees with his perspective on everything.

[@drayner2517]

Met him once in the job I was doing. A very arrogant man..

[@dougbulldog9947]

Stop in at Bunnings on your way home Paddy, get yourself a ladder so you can climb down off your high horse, and it might be useful if you can't see the wood for the trees.

[@kiwi792]

it cracks me up when reporters are quick to ask for privacy, manners, courtesy when the media are focusing on them, yet when when they are on the other side and not the ones in focus, suddenly those things no longer matter.

[@bobcoburn2929]

Does Paddy remember the Mollenberg interview? I sure do and I had a good laugh.

[@whodatbe8675]

Here's how it works. LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE.

[@ianstollery4922]

Poor old Paddy, hasn't got a clue as to why he has lost his job. It ain't the economy Paddy

[@Mark-ef8mp]

I don't think the economy is necessarily responsible for all this palaver.

[@Harkness197]

Gower is a drunk and that's it

[@annatetiad.4991]

no truer words have been spoken

[@jackiejones690]

Pot kettle ?.

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

Alcohol is for losers and Homer Simpson 🍺🥴🍻

[@roilhead]

Drunk on the Jacinda failed Lala dreamland uptoia.

[@MrVinylJunkie]

He might get a job from Tory Whanau in that case.............

[@whodatbe8675]

WE DONT WANT TO BRING BACK NEWSHUB😅😅😅😅

[@mozdickson]

Fair play to the bloke - his ego was rarked up at the get go, but he engaged well. That said, hope to never hear his moaning voice again.

[@jimkelly2272]

Patrick Gower is amazing. He would be even better if he could get a job😊

[@maieldmik5233]

He's amazing alright!! In his eyes anyway 😂

[@maorifilm]

'Have you not ever not chased someone down the Parliament Corridor'... Well shit, thats a great statement.. Hook, line and sinker...‼️

[@bernardguynunns5658]

"We're going to the next level of friendship." "Oh, what's that." "Oh, strangers I guess."

[@SMD2308]

When Paddy first came onto the news, as a junior reporter, I liked him, as he was professional and careful, just as I liked John Campbell, but in the last few years, as their political bias started coming out, that turned me off. I like my reporting done impartially, as I am well able to decide for myself what I think. I can interpret the news all by myself. As we all can. Paddy’s IMO unprofessional actions after the 2020 elections, when he openly celebrated the Labour win, was the last time I have ever watched anything involving him.

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Nothing new

[@whodatbe8675]

The one factor.... WOKENESS

[@Dan-1066]

Good interview, respectful by both Sean and Paddy once Paddy had been convinced it was a serious interview.

[@bronwynkerr5308]

Remember when Gower hunted down the doctor in Kaiapoi? Doesn't like it much when Sean hunts him down!

[@antonmiles8167]

Hard to take Gower seriously when he looks like Alfred E. Neuman.

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

🥴

[@HunkyMan777]

I still see lots of ads on TV - no noticeable reduction from my eyes

[@delinquentinparadise]

They pay $100 for a $1,000 advert. That’s why.

[@Randymountaine]

I just want the facts and to make my own opnions. I don't need bias journo's like Gower bending the facts

[@jr8899]

We remember the Lauren Southern and Stephen Monoleux interview lol

[@whodatbe8675]

So funny how paddy remembered. Sean living rent free in paddy's little head😅😅

[@iainmacleod8074]

Poor Paddy he’s yet to come to the realisation he’s had his day😢

[@lydiascl]

PG says there's been issues.. But he's not been part of the solution.. The fact that PIJF and selling parts TV3 to overseas buyer had to be done would have sent a signal that legacy media is in danger.. Still they did not do anything...

[@cashewnut2539]

How they hate it when the tables are turned

[@ShirleyZhang-bt4dj]

Absolutely

[@salaadin]

FFS having to suffer from more than 4 mins of Paddy whinging. Complaining about a lack of professional courtesy extended to him but yet can't seem to use both his ears to extend his own professional courtesy.

[@whodatbe8675]

Paddy is an absolute chump😅

[@Ambassador_Gkar]

Gower's attitude is exactly why I have little sympathy for TV3's newsroom losing their jobs; especially, after the way they treated ANY who had the audacity to question the Convid narrative! This has little to do with the economy: it is MORE about the woke, ESG institutions that these people actively promoted. Look who has sacked these people: it IS one of America's most woke corporate environments -Time Warner/Warner Bros.

[@Ambassador_Gkar]

The bookie shop's open: Paddy Gower's Betting Agency. What are the odds 🤑

[@Emjay-b6w]

Be great addition to the Platform. Nothing wrong with counterviews

[@plc2866]

To be fair he did compliment The Platform

[@Mister-Savage]

Probably just to suck up for a job.

[@cecandcolduncan5596]

Gower is a narcissist. Whenever he came on TV we changed chanels.

[@ZacBernasconi]

The advertising dollars haven't left the market they've gone elsewhere, KZbin, Meta etc... platforms where the people are.