Implications for IAF as Biden Admin clears $450M Pakistani F-16 upgrade Donald Trump had blocked

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[@sb9060]

There are nuances in each and every steps in foreign diplomacy. In the time of UPA 1&2 , Pakistan got 18 brand new F-16 Block 52s. In 2016, during NDA regime, Pakistan was denied by US from getting additional brand new block 52 F-16s. In 2015, Pakistan was also denied from getting 15 AH-1Z Viper attack helicopters. Subsequently, Pakistan was also denied from getting 39 T-129 ATK helicopters from Turkey which has an American engine. This time, US may have made a deal with Pakistan to upgrade it's F-16s in exchange of something in the context of China. World is all about interests. You may find in future that India is getting F-18 Super Hornet for it's navy. Even India may get F-35 as well with a condition that it wouldn't be operated simultaneously with deployed S-400 batteries.

[@pax4370]

For 75 years us has played both side of India-Pak rivalry. At the same time they want us to chose sides to be "on the right side of history"🤣🤣

[@pax4370]

SB u$ bot spotted.

[@zil1832]

Military Industrial complex baby. Its about the🤑🤑

[@Zethuzzz]

After the Balakot offensive , IAF should have anticipated a retaliation from PAK and therefore positioned its best warplanes and anti aircraft missiles near the border.

[@divyanshumishra3670]

Let the Americans sell weapons to the Pakistanis. They have done this in the past to irritate India and only ended up harming their own interests as Pakistan has been a Chinese ally since half a century and will continue to be so for the next few decades. For us here in India, it is a gentle reminder of the fact that at the end of the day, we have to look out for ourselves and cannot rely solely on either erratic USA or declining Russia

[@lemoonade7971]

American giving this favor to Pakistan tottal free of cost.. Pakistan haven't spend a single penny

[@jarjarbinks3193]

The US is playing realpolitik. In other words, it is taking care of its own interests, whatever that may be (irrespective of its alliance with India in other formations like the QUAD). It is NOT all that different from India still buying oil from Russia. We should not be so insecure about it.

[@syedjafri2693]

pak then studies the technilogy build their own and even help chinese in theircr and d

[@mrgyani]

Yeah, you will hold joint military exercises with Russia and then wonder why US is helping Pakistan. Pakistan had pushed US towards India with its actions. Now you have brought back US and Pakistan with your own actions.

[@realnapster1522]

@@mrgyani India also does military exercises with US. It has nothing to do with this decision. This is more related to spending money to keep American weapons companies in business. Democrats take short sighted decisions. This will damage India US ties. India should not rely on US weapons.

[@sankalp6872]

Correction: Total cost = $450 Million + Zawahiri + Imran Khan Govt. There may still be many more hidden costs. Let's be honest, all nations act in their self-interest ($$$$ > QUAD). Pak Army is US's "hired gun" in the region. You can't totally abandon the family "goonda" that you fed and raised.

[@sankalp6872]

@@jreeves1739 Helping Ukraine? How? Pakistan itself is drowning (literally). Even the new PM is on a "bhik do" tour but as usual Pakistanis continue to be as delusional as the 1947 Kashmir fantasy, 1965 Delhi tea party, 1971 Dawn's "victory" headlines and the 1999 "Not our soldiers but Kashmiri freedom fighter fantasy. No wonder it is PKMKB.

[@immrankhalid]

India is the new "goonda" for USA as it's hired to counter China, hence made part of QUAD alliance.

[@InhashtaginFutureInBranding]

haha

[@nkn9319]

👍

[@IASachin]

An excellent mix of sense and humour 😊

[@mnd3607]

Out of 1.2 billion $ IMF loan ...450 million $ was already spent on f-16 upgrade

[@naturemeditation3751]

rest will be put in pockets and remaining on terror and Biden also knows it

[@oksyar]

It's not like that. Every country has a fixed annual budget for it's defense and they use that money for weapons upgrade etc

[@rohitkashyap1051]

When you don't have.money to fund the budget....you take a loan..... Also....then you need to change.... .other wise.......you will take more.loans ... It's like that..with Pakistan...

[@lemoonade7971]

America giving this favor to Pakistan tottal free of cost.. Pakistan haven't spend a single penny 😕

[@goodvibes6715]

Its a free gift by America to Pakistan to Counter India India should buy 100 million more Oil barrels from Russia

[@Spread_only_love]

In my opinion it is not a simple routine upgrade of manuals, documents etc. Its much more than what meets the eye. Let me elaborate on why I say so. US at the minimum achievs 3 strategic objectives: 1)Dollar sale - though 450m maybe a very insignificant amount of US export, however here’s where it gets exciting, 2)Ensures Pakistan continues to use (and depend) on US military gear, thereby denying China an open field of filling in any vacuum created by US staying away in supplying military gear to Pakistan. (Yes US military sales to Pakistan may have decreased in the recent past ,ceding space to China) 3)The F16 upgrades create uneasyness in India, it fuels insecurity. Consequently India will look forward to address its insecurities by procuring more arms. Who are the beneficiaries of India procuring arms ? Its the US, West and Russia. So its a win win situation either way for US, and a master stroke of US forgien policy, isn’t it !

[@ArpanMukhopadhyay93]

No I don't think so. USA needs India to fight China. I don't think it will play such games with India

[@shivamdixit6712]

@@ArpanMukhopadhyay93 the Americans knows really well india won't help them in anyway unless we are attacked upon

[@katiresanarumugam4260]

One side US calls India strategic ally/Quad-partner & on other side bolsters Pak.'s offensives against India; this proves US as unreliable partner, subjugating other nations to US. How can India decide to buy US weapons? Democrats've been playing games against India's interests, since decades

[@shamkay832]

oh please dont make me laugh,,, jo biden has his dementia ridden head stuck in the 80s when he was a young buck in politics and ussr russia and afghanistan/ iran were going through changes,,, the future is with India, economically and as a security force,,, as trump realised pakistan has proved time and time again that its a liability and untrustworthy, ps It was mentioned that its not just about documentation,, you cannot spend 450m on such things ONLY

[@ayonbiswas4186]

@@ArpanMukhopadhyay93 well, US didn't get India when they wanted. So why would they entertainment India? Especially when we clearly have a strong foreign policy of our own! They need lackeys and Chums and people who'd do their dirty work for them. US has that in Pakistan and all of its other 'allies'. It is better to have the pirate motto while working with the US, 'take what you can, give nothing back!'

[@jkardez4794]

The upgraded F-16s will be strictly used for flood relief operations .

[@Dr.AryamanAbhisekBiswal]

Lol 🤣

[@aamlansaswat]

Super fast air drop of rations

[@rohandev1444]

Air ration at missile speed. Missile guided wheat delivery! Thanks USA. Love US but some of their policies, I guess they can say we also use Russia as needed, fair game I suppose

[@HasnaAbubekar]

❤️❤️

[@ayaddar4792]

Pakistan should spend this amount for flood victims, instead.

[@bingolio]

PAF also has 1 squadron of J-20 Firebirds operational with very advanced radar guided Chinese missiles.. But the real quetion is why in every tactical skirmish IAF always loses 1+ Fighters whereas PAF almost never. Worth thinking about. Underestimating the PAF's effectiveness has always been India's achilles heel.The only time India has had a clear advantage was during 1971, due to Pakistan's own blunder and stupidity, otherwise the record is very clear about PAF. PAF pilots are considered some of the best , ask the Israeil Air Force.

[@dailyindopak]

😉

[@nomansaddique9897]

You are right but In 1971 if we go with states. They was defeated Pakistan destroyed 12 aircraft of India on lose of 2 but those basterd destroyed the air ways and Pakistan only had one air way in Bangladesh. We was never prepared in Bangladesh side .

[@biswaroopmaiti2943]

Given that they are asking around the world for aid and relief for the flood victims, and going to the IMF, I'm surprised they have budget for such expensive upgrades. On the flip side, the more money they spend on conventional systems they would have less budget for unconventional "thousand cuts" tactics.

[@surajs5913]

Thousand cuts strategy doesnt need too much funds. Fortunately, the thousand cuts is bleeding pakistan now because India has sealed the border so well now...

[@AsifSaifuddinAuvipy]

this was a decade old overdue. US also don;t want Pak to be 100% china dependent.

[@ankitsinghbisht8789]

@@AsifSaifuddinAuvipy yeah US uses Pakistan as a deterance against India To keep India in check

[@alphacompany4837]

@@AsifSaifuddinAuvipy are you Pakistani?

[@Northern_Wolf607]

Pakistan can Afford India as an Enemy but India Can't

[@nicpirate007]

Even before this deal the IAF is dwindling in power and numbers. 36 Rafales decided instead of 126 and the can kicked down the road by floating another tender for 114 aircraft. This govt does not look like ordering more with 2024 elections they dont want a perception of scam. Even if they place an order now it will take years for the aircraft to arrive. You are then running down you air force not just in quantity but also in quality. Sukhois and Rafales are the only long workhorses. Rest will need retirement in some time - jaguars, mirages and mig29. This will be disastrous becuase older they grow their war worthiness declines as better weapons get into the market every year. If we are happy with a 20 squadron air force [rafale+ Sukhois + LCA] we better plan lot more - mid air refuellers, AWACS , ISTAR, extended range bramhos regiments, armed heron tp and S400 all networked with AI and men. Most likely killer move will come from China who will loan/sell their stealth to PAF. DRDO promises too much to match their own repute. Are we ready for a situation where PAF has stealth fighter?? Or are we sleep walking ??

[@sankalp6872]

Sleepwalking? Perhaps, but toward a cliff? Unlikely. Pakistan is in no condition to wage a war while the Chinese are so many miles ahead in the air force superiority that even a dozen f22 raptors won't change it. However, war is not about dog fights anymore. Modern-day warfare is about stealth, reconnaissance, and beyond-visual range games. That is where India needs to dominate.

[@sampharoj416]

Can you post what you think is needed in numbers of each? Lot more is not a quantity. With Pakistan becoming a bankrupt sea and China having to fight off the west flanking them in the south China sea a full conventional war with India seems unlikely in the next decade or even two. Perhaps investing in Indian infrastructure and economy would better benefit India in defending itself than buying one off military assets in the short term?

[@averagestudent5223]

good assessment, practical ... cautious...

[@nicpirate007]

I am not talking of a fight to finish war. Kargil, Parliament attack, 26/11, Pathankot are all in stances we needed a quick and precise punitive action against the adversary to escalate the cost of cutting us even 1 time. At these instances we were clearly not technologically well prepared to do the right thing. With tge tech available today we should be able to hit terror infra any time we chose without having to cross airspace and block most of what adversary thow back us. Our size and GDP warrants such levels of capabilities. I am no expert to crunch and provide how many fighter squadrons we need, that is the job of people who have access to data from war games. But when you see pilots flying MiG 21 in 2022 you know you got a quality problem. Jaguar engines upgrade did not work out and MiG 29s are a pain to maintain in flyworthy condition. But the 272 sukhois + 5 squadrons of rafale + 10 squadrons of LCA + Mirage and 2 squadrons of some stealth aircraft is needed - just a plain guestimate based out of a plan to keep only war worthy birds in squadrons and an airforce that is technologically sound and not dependent on a few squadrons for real action. Already 25 J10s have arrived to counter Rafales you may see J20 just to mess India as well. So it is sleepwalking into a ditch if not a cliff.

[@nicpirate007]

The Chinese will be back at soon at the time of their choosing. And they will prep and prop Pak as well as they can. This F-16 support from US is their pay for helping hit Al qaeda top guy in Kabul somevweeks ago. Just as block 52 could have been a pay for Abbotabad strike on Osama. This pattern of we lagging behind is apparent in all critical fields of war fighting- their Agosta subs for long had AIP our scorpenes dont, their 155mm artillery house is much better than ours. We had the chance to fix both - get french AIP on Scorpenes and build more K9 Vajras. But no. DRDO and HAL directors are promising to build everything under the sun with them having no track record of having delivered anything in time or world class war winning quality - perhaps except bramhos and mrsam which are joint ventures

[@ranjitbijoy]

How does the economic condition of pakistan allow them to make this purchase. The current floods have damages worth in excess of $10 billion , with foreign reserves of more than a month and significant repayments on loans that are due . Looks like they have the approvals but might not go through due to the current cash crunch .Every bit of the $1.6 billion tranche will be held accountable by the IMF. That can't be used for defense needs .The numbers don't add up to the pakistan wish list

[@ChinaKiMaaKaBhosda]

don't worry bro. Pakistan jab apni gaand chudva raha hoga tab bhi india ke baare mein hi sochega

[@Unio-Mystica]

@@dharyanagpal7586 😆😆😉🤫

[@hke.4475]

This is from our annual budget not imf

[@abhi739]

@@hke.4475 clearly ur budget doesn't include common sense 🤣

[@djrandomwalker7656]

USA Freebie like free electricity

[@EverestClimberNo1]

Thanks!

[@TarunKumar-uo5gn]

Price of giving up Al Zawahiri😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ArmageddonIsHere]

And self-respect!

[@hke.4475]

Zahrawai has nothing to do with Pakistan but go on lindus

[@abhi739]

The munnis of sunnis also going to China for jf17. Search on KZbin Chinese husband Muslim Pakistani wife. See the volume

[@ArmageddonIsHere]

@@hke.4475 Zahrawi isn't a foreign patriot of Pakistan?

[@santhugowda7179]

@@hke.4475 Osama bin Laden radical Islamic terrorist was killed in Pakistan. 😉😉😉😉😉

[@TheMaderDog]

Very poor armchair journalism; Such analysis is very poor; Whats more important is the geopolitical importance of this US move (treachery); playing both nations as they have done in their entire history. India CANNOT TRUST the US. This Journalist tries to dismiss the importance of the $450M; it's not about new or old SIR! It's more about SLAPPING India down for not doing what the US(White Sahib) wants and reminding India it can hurt India too. Quoting facts and figures is simply to easy and misses the bigger picture. India still has Bison planes in service that are 75 years old. India MUST NOT buy US planes for their NAVY and show the US they cannot play both sides PAK against India. Where is the Morals/ Principles of the West now? Can we get some better Journalists in India!

[@Retemiad]

US is probably clearing spares stockpile before ceasing aging F16 production

[@lalchungnungalcha6351]

Thanks

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[@rajroy44]

We need not lose our sleep over this.

[@varun2250]

But create an impression that will make US think 100 times doing something like this.

[@anshuraj4277]

@@varun2250 They won't.. Lol They have their interests They will pursue it

[@varun2250]

@@anshuraj4277 Ofcourse everyone have their own interests. But when Bharat becomes even a little bit of a big economy, then these depraved decisions of USA will take a backseat.

[@anshuraj4277]

@@varun2250 Thing is US is not adversary of India China is They will become even bigger

[@debudada]

US caused the change of regime in Pakistan . Pakistan has been surreptitiously delivering arms through UK to Ukraine , the gift had to come

[@AP-do6sv]

plus india not backing them up on russia, and the china disengagement would have upset the US

[@ashokyadavindia413]

By 2014, Pakistan's air force was stroger than India. But after the arrival of Modi, today India has no threat from Pakistan, on the contrary, Pakistan is threatened by India. Because today Pakistan has no status. Today India main enemy is China, and now India itself developing the weapons of the coming generation . But under the rule of Congress, the Gandhi family was more concerned about getting their commission than getting good weapons for the country. All Indians know and understand the above things very well, that is why today every Indian is standing with Narendra Modi.

[@ADITYAKUMAR-mb5ht]

True 💖,but it's true for only Sonia lead india ,not for indira,or Jawaharlal Nehru lead india

[@jadamvadapalli]

1914, there is no pak

[@roshanmohanty8595]

Why no mention of Abhinandan shot down the f16 ??

[@crumpfyllc5571]

because it does not happen

[@karan200590]

India also maintains relations with Russia and goes against US wishes. Tit for tat. Every country looks for its own interests. Our india is also doing the same thing.

[@rasputin4u1]

Now India should order S-500 from Russia

[@ayonbiswas4186]

@@rasputin4u1 no. Government needs to push more for indigenous content in defense sector. Better yet, companies should put everything in their inventory for sale in the nato kingdom!

[@rka-truthalwayswins5127]

IF so then USA & EU should stop shouting democracy & human rights on roof tops!! When they create & support military & communist dictatorships, they should at least stop lecturing others on democracy & human rights!!

[@BalajiHariharan81]

This is a tit for tat for India maintaining normal trade relations with Russia and not joining western sanctions and maintaining a neutral stance despite heavy us lobbying with Indian government. US is saying if India can remain neutral in wake of Russian aggression then why can’t we be with India and Pakistan.

[@djrandomwalker7656]

Imagine upsetting russia and then china russia pak teaming up to attack india. With india dependent on russian equipment and fertilizers, getting no supplies from russia, and buying small number of expensive stuff from usa, and expensive oil gas from small Qatar who would arm twist us. With no food for poor , just to please goras.

[@ADITYAKUMAR-mb5ht]

@@djrandomwalker7656 true ,we Indians are not in a position to do American fangiri ,they will not support us against china ,pak ,russia ... choosing US way will be a sucide for us

[@testname2635]

USA would have anyways upgraded Paks F16.

[@dhanushgowda4061]

@@ADITYAKUMAR-mb5ht it's better to have peace deal with China and be happy

[@vijaybgood]

Good perspective...

[@jaydeepgadhavi5465]

There's nothing much to read into it, afterall it's a FMS (Foreign military sale ). I was just being curious about another story, when after the skirmish on 27/2/2019, I guess Fawad chouwdry asked Lockheed Martin to protest against what he said was a false claim by India of shooting down a F-16 by a Mig-21 Bison. Does anyone know what happened after that ?

[@pradman81]

Americans said they inventoried the F-16s and none seem to have been lost.

[@ThePrintIndia]

Nobody said anything on record but Americans leaked enough to suggest no F-16 was lost. In the course of time I am sure clarity will emerge… shekhar

[@jaydeepgadhavi5465]

@@ThePrintIndia 👍

[@hpremjit]

This may be exactly the reason the Americans agreed the upgrades..... not withstanding the denial by US and Pakistan of any lost f16

[@offred6013]

@Ismail Khan u should be more mature about ur exports of terrorists and ur talent of always begging for something from someone

[@sb9060]

US has replied India in the context of indo-russian relation post Ukraine war. India's diplomats may still have a role to play to withhold this so called approval of the whatever upgrade.

[@helcurt2509]

this fence sitting and virtue signalling by jaishankar was egoistic and unneeded ego. now neither russia nor US are close to us. china is more closer to russia. Pak more closer to US, threw out imran who was becoming anti us. indian foregn policy is all barks and unsolicited advice. not a single friendly country in our neighbourhood

[@sb9060]

@@helcurt2509 Then 1) What's the S-400 deal exemption from sanction where even NATO ally Turkey hasn't been provided with the same privilege ? 2) What's the upgrade packages of C-17 Globemaster? 3) what's the upgrade packages of C-130 Super Hercules? 4) What's the supply of GE F-404 and GE F-414 engines? 5) What's the deal of supplying 24 MH60R best in it's class Helicopters? 6) What's the deal of supplying 22+6=28 Apaches? 7) What's the deal of supplying additional P-8I Poseidon ASW Aircrafts? 8) What's the deal of being into QUAD? 9) What's the surplus trade balance of India with US in billion dollars ? 10) What's Pakistan's IMF struggle all about?

[@helcurt2509]

@@sb9060 1. Importing weapons is not a sign of friendship but servitude. We need indigenous weapons. Importing weapons is short term populist policies to please common masses. 2. China and Pak both have nuclear weapons. There is no deterrent to them. These anti defence are worthless. 3. Pakistan is verge on failing but USA will keeping it alive by its ventilator support like china keep north korea alive by aids. Pakistan is important to US and China to keep india tamed. Pakistan will always survive by their aids and donations.

[@helcurt2509]

@@sb9060 US trade surplus is no big deal. US has enough dollars to keep on printing and buying. US has trade deficit with china, gulf nations too. It's not big achievement what about our trade deficit with china? It keeps on growing

[@helcurt2509]

I had high hopes in jaishankar to act professional diplomat. He seems to be attention seeking and giving extreme statement. Is india in any way to intimidate Europe? What the hell is he thinking. Not every country is pakistan. We cannot argue with everyone. I wish we had a working minster than talking one. I feel irritated with bjp now. They and congress are two sides of same coin. Idiots

[@honorhonor3352]

As a Pakistani I am embarrassed that with all the flooding and others economic issues Pakistani establishment is wasting money on unneeded arms.

[@sachinnayal]

Go on streets, and f*ck your establishments

[@akhil999in]

pakistan has a geopolitical purpose but does not have a domestic purpose.

[@ArmageddonIsHere]

You have to come to terms with the truth: Pakistan wasn't created for common Muslims, it was made to keep the Muslim elite of Northern India safe and prosperous. Therefore it matters not if the _awam_ are drowning, as long as enough of them stay alive to serve the Pakistani elites needs. Highest among those needs is their safety: the elite's, not the _awam_ 's

[@laulaksiddique6160]

Are Indian soldiers breaking into your house? If not then thank the Pakistani armed forces

[@Nangsansun]

@@laulaksiddique6160 What makes you think that an Indian soldier will try to break into a Pakistani's house? They're not interested in Pakistan fyi. Just get this thought off your mindset, and you'd see Pakistan growing in various aspects.

[@kaustubh14jr]

Actually the mig 29 had the better missiles as the R73 missile could be fired by just looking at the target. This capability was not there with the F16 until AIM9X arrived. What really turned the balance as Shekhar said was the AMRAM 120C missiles.

[@averagestudent5223]

fair point

[@anuragrajasingh]

That's what he said. F-16 was better in terms of it's avionics, electronics suite, and ECM capabilities. However, IAF felt that Mig-29s with their A2A missiles should be enough to tackle any threat the F-16s may pose and rightly so, at least at that point in time. When you say just by looking at the target I assume you mean helmet mounted sights. Missiles even today need a valid 'lock' on their target so just looking firing won't actually work.

[@sumanneogi2679]

Now after russian defeat I feel 70% of indian hardware are useless

[@kaustubh14jr]

@@sumanneogi2679 it does not work that way. It is about recognizing the capabilities and then designing the tactics accordingly.

[@MinhajAhmedAnsari]

Not to forget we also have S-400 Air defence systems in future that will further our tactical advantage especially during short skirmishes.

[@shahmirahmad8425]

😭 2019 meh kya hoga and ur s- 400 are seeing the time of their lives in Russia Ukraine war

[@hke.4475]

Sure tell that to shaheen missiles

[@MangalSingh-ph9df]

@@shahmirahmad8425 halala of ur ammi🤣🤣👈

[@enriqueojito]

Let me laugh 😂. S-400 is not working against the Ukraine Himars rockets built by USA 💪. So how is going to work against the future Pak himars.🤔

[@offred6013]

@@shahmirahmad8425 beggaristanis in the comment cheering their begging achievements.

[@MrEnlghtened]

You missed out on the procurement of S-400s which can shoot down F-16s even before they enter the Indian airspace. You mentioned shooting down of MIG-21 Bison by PAF but failed to mention Wg Cdr now Gp Capt Abhinandan shooting down a superior F-16.

[@thediversity6203]

No F-16 was shot down IAF fooled us .

[@mohitthorat8580]

There is no proof for the last claim.

[@theone9113]

@@mohitthorat8580 go and check dgispr confrence where he said we found 2 pilots ......... one was abhinandan and second one?

[@haseebwaqar8980]

@@theone9113 So what?

[@armughanshafique9538]

@@theone9113 And how does this proves downing of F16??? That was simply a wrong statement in the fog of war which is not a big deal at least not bigger than shooting your own chopper. 😁

[@harpreetseera181]

What people really want to know is why would US allow this and the simple answer is that not providing maintenance and support to countries they have sold arms to would hurt their reputation as a reliable arms supplier. Shekar ji, you are providing too much data and too little analysis.

[@143-v9r]

as simple as that..

[@Hem_Himachal]

But isn't maintenance/repair different from an upgrade ? (Curious)

[@catanana]

Sadly I don't think the print takes constructive criticism and reads our comments apart from the ones that are praising them and that too only sometimes.

[@aspirin99999]

Up next: indo pak misadv. 2023

[@assertivekarma1909]

The US will not arm Pakistan with capabilities sufficient for it to be confident in its ability to enact aggression against India. Plus as said, previous arrangements do include maintenance/repair and occasionally reasonable upgrades.

[@dharanidharans5327]

America be like : My enemy is your enemy and your enemy is not my enemy

[@junkookbts1273]

Same as India does with Iran and Israel and Russia and the West

[@farrukh181]

Few things I want to add to this for my Indian friends. PAF always tries to maintain the first shot capability. This is not a secret. Many top ranking PAF officers have said that in interviews that they strive for a weapon system which provides the pilot first shot advantage. The recent purchase of J10-C from China with SD-10 (Export variant of PL-12) is to counter the IAF purchase of Rafale jets with meteor missiles. The Pakistan armed forces purpose built their arsenal for India and no other country. On the other hand India goes for an approach which is more global and tries to counter Chinese threats in the region. This gives PAF a bit of advantage in a sense that their vision remains focused on a single adversary.

[@averagestudent5223]

a slight correction J10-C has PL-15 be it the export version. PAF already had the SD-10 with their JF-17

[@offred6013]

Remains focused on single adversary. Lol. Thats called obsession not focus. Also better to focus on ur begging capabilities . Need of the hour for Pakistan.

[@farrukh181]

@@averagestudent5223 i stand corrected, thanks

[@sunkidd9150]

It's not just about the supposedly 'first shot' but also target acquisition & EW suite (incl counter counter measures) where the F-16 is way obsolete compared to Rafale.

[@shubs3566]

"First shot" really doesn't help much if after that shot you're out of money to fire the next. Pakistanis continue to live in a fantasy era when they think they can win a war with India. How many days will you fight? Who will fund your war?

[@averagestudent5223]

19:00 - from a neutral perspective, I absolutely don't pay heed to hearsay in clickbait blogs and vlogs like entire JF-17 fleet is grounded, well its grounds for IAF to do another SS and Pakistan will be toothless ... it literally shifts strategic air balance (not tactical as per Shekhar Gupta jargon). Also PAF isn't a small air force by any stretch. It is decently equipped for the size of the country. It literally has more AWACS than IAF and more than half of IAF's squadron strength, IAF being among the largest air forces in the world.

[@almostcertainlynotapotato6528]

What is an AWAC?

[@nishantshrivastava9674]

@@almostcertainlynotapotato6528 Airborne early warning control aircraft.. Think of it radar dome integrated on passenger sized aircraft for surveillance in air and also work as command and control station for fighter jets in air. Our military doctrine is vintage.. Israel is using it since 1980s and we got our 1st one in 2008 in limited no. reason chindichori✌🏼

[@almostcertainlynotapotato6528]

@@nishantshrivastava9674 ah ok, thanks.

[@surendrabarsode8959]

1. India lived with Pak F16s for many years now with our Mirages, MIG 29s and Sukhois and now with Rafale and Tejas. In fact, our MIG 21 shot down one F 16 too recently!! We have now required AAMRAMs too to handle F 16. 2. With S 400 being activated, F 16 or J20s or whatever are also taken care of. In fact, no PAF fighter need take off !! 3. But USA needs funds and Pakistan needs to keep the fleet alive. So India should not mind much. 4. Hope Pakistan is able to pay for the upgrades even if sale is approved.

[@tubro541]

Pakistan is begging the world for grass, to feed their masses.

[@Here4Now]

S400 is for missiles not aircraft. Only Rafale is our answer for F-16. But we don't have numbers. Tajas engine is American.

[@biswajitbordoloi8092]

@@Here4Now s400 work against fighter jets too.

[@surendrabarsode8959]

@@Here4Now S400 is for all flying objects!

[@danapink361]

Lets b honest this f 16 is lethal machine.. Israel tutkry usa etc all use this f 16 as a front runner airplane in any circumstances

[@dipmalyaroy987]

All country work on their national interest as usa and India should also do the same . We should look for strategic gain not for tactical gain , maintain sweet relation with west on top , gain access to their market and technology , devolve human resource and become paramount power then retaliate , we should sacrifice our temporary interest to achieve strategic goal .

[@surajs5913]

What do you think India was doing for the past 20 years? And what or how much tech transfer has happenned as a result? No one will give us trch unless they have something to gain. Thats why france has agreed to help India to hold on to its past glory as it fades into irrelevance.

[@assertivekarma1909]

That is the type of treacherous attitude that makes you an undesirable partner.

[@akhil999in]

india should stop importing weapons and do its own research. as it might take time, bows arrows, stone spear points, horses, etc. should be developed for fighting wars in the mean while. what is the use of so many millions of educated persons if the country has to depend on foreigners for every thing. there should be a public report giving proof that it is not possible for india to develop its own jet engines.

[@svanimation8969]

@@akhil999in India already stoped for mostly weapons ! Soon we will block all

[@g1y3]

Devolve human resource.

[@AyushKumar-se6nn]

When Imran Khan was saying his government was toppled by the USA led block, has now starting making sense.

[@TheMaderDog]

YES, very well spotted! No one can trust the US.

[@dragracer567]

Strange that Indians are complaining about this. If India doesn't want to choose between US and Russia while vigorously defending its relations with Russia, why should the Americans choose between India and Pakistan?

[@sanaproper]

Because it means America is helping China.. Next war will be 3 front war for India.. India-pakistan 1 front, India-china in 2 fronts and mix that with tactical nuclear artillery bombardment

[@sahilnagpalx]

US has been choosing pakistan since the cold war so don't give us that shit

[@deveshsonam]

Because Pak is going to use f 16 against us......

[@junkookbts1273]

@@sahilnagpalx during the Cold War India was in bed with Communist Soviets...while Pakistan helped kick the Soviets out of Afghanistan which India supported by the way.... Of course the US thought they were better partners

[@vijaybhai4866]

Totally agree..

[@ayaddar4792]

Mention of J10 acquisition got missed somehow from this story,which I think is a better platform than Old F16s with Aesa radars installed in it.

[@AyanKhan-qr9ip]

Woww first I've heard jf17 thunder block 3 then j10c fighter jets and now f16 fully will be upgraded🔥 whatever happens Pakistan will never allow their enemy to mess

[@kbytes6646]

but ur enemies are within pakistan, how u will deal with them with these machines ::)

[@asokedas2977]

Indian Air force are forever behind the curve(and confused as well!) in it's planned acquisitions to maintain tactical air(platforms and armaments) superiority over PAF. With the economic muscle India possesses it must quickly acquire about 8 squadrons of 4.5 gen fighters specific for PAF threat(and replace aging MIG21, Mirage 2000,Jaguars etc. Waiting for Tejas mk2 would be strategic folly(it will come when it comes). In current swift changing neighbourhood conflict scenario it cannot be caught with it's pants down.

[@ululukululu450]

india should buy Chinese j20s.

[@dhanushgowda4061]

It's best have peace deal with China we will be in disadvantaged

[@varun2250]

@@dhanushgowda4061 Nah, India needs to stay patient for 10-15 bearing these nuisance created by both USA (arms Pakistan) and CCP on Tibetan borders. Increase the military capability as it's happening now and maintain steadfast patience while focusing on Nation Building. We will see to the end of our external irritants from then. If you ask for peace deal with CCP they would further increase their belligerence against Bharat. The current hard stance is in our favor.

[@piyushprasad8731]

@@dhanushgowda4061 communism has expansionist ideology

[@MegaLeoben]

India can make peace with both Paskistan and China if it wants. Then it can focus on economic development.

[@gautam4934]

Good video Shekhar, but also remember the same Mig 21 Bison shot down one of the Block 52 F16s! You could have called that out? Any reason why you did not? Apart from that, you should also remember that the Mig 21s forced the PAF to retreat without achieving whatever mischief that they came to do.

[@armughanshafique9538]

There is no proof of that nonsense claim. Better stick to known facts. Even PAF claims shooting down Su-30 but we don't promote it that much considering there is not solid evidence to back that claim. Only known facts are: PAF aircrafts crossed Indian occupied territory. 2- PAF aircrafts dropped their payload near Indian military installations. 3- PAF aircrafts shot down Mig-21. 4- Kashmiri villagers beat the living daylights out of WC Abhinandan before Pak Army rescued him. 5- Indians shot down their own chopper.

[@gautam4934]

@@armughanshafique9538 - The world does not believe any of the nonsense that you aim to propagate. Pak's credibility is at its lowest today and mainly identified by the begging bowl that your leaders carry to China, Saudi Arabia, IMF etc. Pak denied to take back thousands of dead bodies of their soldiers from the shameful Kargil defeat that it encountered, it denied that the Mumbai attacker coward Ajmal Kasab was a Pakistani etc. Similarly PAF jets intruded us from the Pakistani occupied territory & were beaten back by our Mig 21s & Sukhois. Unfortunately one of our Mig 21s was shot down because of it being a previous generation fighter, but WC Abhinandan displayed exemplary courage & your country was forced to hand him over because of the superior Indian diplomatic pressure! Pak has not learnt anything from the 4 humiliating defeats that it has suffered at Indian hands 1948, 1965, 1971 (heaviest defeat) & 1999 (Kargil) and sends over the unemployed/poor cowards from its country as terrorists luring them with religious fanaticism/money or drugs employing a policy of thousand cuts. But remember India has always been superior to Pak both on the battle field & diplomacy sphere! Better to focus on your own country which was recently 1/3 under flood waters rather than useless trolling on an Indian news channel!

[@armughanshafique9538]

@@gautam4934 Keep ranting. Whatever helps you sleep at night. 😁

[@gautam4934]

@@armughanshafique9538 - Don't worry about my sleep. Wanted to show you the mirror!

[@mokomdane4297]

As long as India keeps it self on the geopolitical wall she will always find her self outmaneuvered. This is a massage from the US to India that it could undermine its national security as well.

[@junkookbts1273]

100 % correct sir.

[@dhanushgowda4061]

Yes we should leave fight for USA free world for Japan Taiwan South China sea countries Pacific countries asean Australia all together with peace deal with China

[@asadahmedchohan]

Pakistan airforce has traditionally being strong. The news Rafales and S 500 systems have strengthened Indian Aviation recently. Pakistan J 10s and J 20s are the answer to these advances. F 16s and JF 17s are just the backbone of PAF, not their air superiority aircrafts anymore.

[@easwaransanthakumar297]

Does Pakistan have money for these kind of stuff given their situation.

[@AsifSaifuddinAuvipy]

unless they spent 450 million they will face 7-8 billion usd loss

[@thePakistanexpress]

Yes we have We have money to fight our enemies

[@thePakistanexpress]

We just want world help us for economy and flood We will buy more aircrafts

[@besam]

They get money from KSA. Also every weapon system is available from KSA. As Pakistani arm forces are ultimately responsible for safety of KSA.

[@biplabbray7877]

Thank you Shekhar ji for all the in depth inputs on F16 and lessening our anxiety with such a support action by USA to Pakistan. But India needs to remain vigilant always.

[@samarthjain601]

Hence always have independent policy,we should disengagement from USA as well a bit

[@dozoon]

Why you guys angry if US helps upgrade Pakistani aircrafts ???

[@DefenceMatrix]

Few points: Su 30MKI has better Radar than F-16 Block 52. NO11M BARS is one of the best, PESA Radar out there. Second: Astra Mk1 is equal to or better than Aim 120 "C5" the pakistani have. Third: Pakistanis already have a better missile than AMRAAM with their new J-10CE, It's PL 15E. They will operate the same missile with their JF-17 Block III Fourth: The engine of JF 17 is completely Russian, the Chinese option was there, but it was not matured, so they went with the RD93 which is a poor engine if we talk about maintenance, and availability but the performance is top notch.

[@chamyalmay]

Thank you for correcting the author

[@DefenceMatrix]

@Ismail Khan some reports suggest that, even we reported that pakistan is now directly contacting the Russians for engine spares, bypassing the Chinese.

[@shadowyzman7078]

@@DefenceMatrix The news about JF-17s being grounded due to structural issues was only floated by Indian sources.

[@aldrineabisheck5426]

India can't dictate US decision while buying Russian oil. 😓

[@vedgr8605]

I think we have the answer who shared Al Zawahi's location

[@ankitsinghbisht8789]

Very much obvious client state Pakistan

[@WELSHDESI]

Oh come on Guys, you guys have S400 & French Raffle jets & 5 trillion economy Please don’t Worry about us Pakistan 🇵🇰! We want PEACE ☮️ & FRIENDSHIPS with India 🇮🇳.

[@desire242424]

I kind of liked your effort of hiding the embarrassment while talking about post-Balakot skirmish and the unforgettable harm that PAF was able to inflict on you.

[@Robertsmith001]

Why don’t you guys focus on improving Pakistan rather than spending all day trolling?

[@gautam4934]

And what was this so called unforgettable harm, my dear sir??? Our 1 generation behind Mig 21 was able to shoot down your F16 plus force a retreat of your fighter planes without bombing a single target! If our Indian Air Force Mig 21 was able to do this imagine what would have happened if our Mirages, Sukhois, Rafaels & Tejas Mark 1 got to PAF fighter jets!

[@desire242424]

@@gautam4934 Mig-21 shot down F-16??? Matlab Kuch bhi 😄??

[@gautam4934]

@@desire242424 Yes sir, definitely shows that for superior flying machinery to be effective, you also need good fighter pilots 😀!!!

[@lottintv3518]

@@gautam4934 PAF has one of the best trained Pilots in the world. 🇵🇰🙋‍♂️👍

[@naderjunaid6733]

Just wondering about the wisdom or lack of it on both sides being Nuclear Powers, wasting much needed monies on such armaments. Both cannot think of conquering each others' land so why keep fucking around uselessly. Give peace a chance.

[@TejasJain1991]

Great video as usual! We would love to have such a detailed video on the recent LAC disengagement!

[@ThePrintIndia]

Hi Tejas, Thanks for writing in.

[@niharikakhare8763]

Sir need to ask a question. Recently a news appeared in a section of media that India will face a shortage of weapons due to a thrust on make in India . Do you agree? Please doa cut the clutter on this issue.

[@wishdomhighschool_46]

And the Americans r begging us to Support them in the Ukraine war😑😑 Let's see how it will go for the Americans with poor paxtan a Begging country with a Big begging Bowl And As India is already Rising Global economic and Military superpower ,We don't need to have any American or the West support.

[@ankitsinghbisht8789]

Bro don't be too much optimistic we want good relations with west as well as with Russians We need to have expertise on new technologies with the help of other countries also But one thing always remains that America is untrustworthy

[@wishdomhighschool_46]

@@ankitsinghbisht8789 I know bruh, In fact i support closer ties with the advanced West than old and rusted Russia, As almost India gets 50% of its FDI( around $ 45 billion dollars from the west) ,And Our Stocks r booming becuz of the west and now reached at an all time high worth of $ 8 trillion dollars(BSE and NSE) 6th and 8th largest, And almost 50% of our $ 676 billion dollars exports go to the West, And They've transfered a lot of Advanced Technologies in Automobile, Pharmaceuticals, Water, Nucle*ar(Civilian),aerospace and engineering etc, But those countries always interfere in india's Internal matters such as defending socialists, And supporting separatists and Useless Farm amd labour protests and Supporting our enemy through aid.

[@anandshd]

This is case of America nudging India to buy stuff from them

[@azharali5762]

I was expecting this on today, by the way first view

[@lecorsaire2283]

India shouldn’t lose any sleep over this deal. The US will definitely not be providing Pakistan with the F-35 nor any future 5th gen aircraft which is what would really make a difference on the subcontinent. The harboring of Bin Laden as well as the ISI’s provision of material support and intelligence to the Taliban throughout the entire Afghan war destroyed any pretense that Pakistan is our ally. Apart from being concerned about Chinese influence in Pakistan, the US is worried about Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal especially after the Taliban’s victory next door. I wouldn’t be surprised if we already have plans drawn up to neutralize the threat of terrorists taking control of these weapons in the event that the government is overthrown.

[@anshulYT91]

🙌🙌

[@dhanushgowda4061]

No we can't go to war on Pakistan china USA weapons Russia neutral 😧 it's best to have peace deal with China Asia is slipping from USA Japan Australia Taiwan South China sea countries asean Pacific countries will be demoralised

[@ADITYAKUMAR-mb5ht]

India is doing best by choosing the path of multi -lateralism ....we need whole world to contribute with each other And don't forget one thing Both china & US wants to use pakistan against India

[@gantamk]

Russia is losing my friend, their hardware is cracking like firecrackers. Our hardware is filled with Russian junk. Only hope is Rafaels.

[@ADITYAKUMAR-mb5ht]

@@gantamk I guess you are talking about US magical weapons javelin vs Russian old junk tank right 🤣, Shekhar Gupta only told you half truth for sepreading his propgenda

[@ADITYAKUMAR-mb5ht]

@@gantamk regarding ukraine aid-india-china combined have not imported than much billion dollar weapons from Russia &US that US allied gave to ukraine in last 6 months...... No doubt US weapons are superior than russians but the thing matters most is cost benefit analysis and than results will shocked you .... Russia has lost 1/4 worth of weapons compared to Ukraine .... And last thing -you will be foolish if you will think that it's Russia vs ukrain, It's actually Russia vs NATO So far more than 1000 NATO troops have been killed or wounded in Ukraine (these troops were actually working in NATO troops ) Indian media like print and people like you ,dhruv raathi etc were also saying that Russian Economy will crumble in a month ,but see it seems like European Economy is crumbling 😂,europe doesn't have option other than russian energy lol,,,, But yeah you are free to think whatever you want to think 🤣

[@SabyasachiChatterjee82]

Best youtube channel regarding geopolitics for a reason . Thanks Gupta Ji.

[@ThePrintIndia]

Hi Sabyasachi, Happy to note you like our content. Thanks for tuning in.

[@hareshgaglani2955]

This seems to be US' way of signalling their unhappiness with India over India's refusal to toe the hostile US line on Russia. We should not bother and must remain focussed on our multipolar-world strategy.

[@junkookbts1273]

Well , Russia sells weapons to both of your enemies:China and Pakistan and Indians never say a word about that

[@rka-truthalwayswins5127]

They will NEVER be happy!! India's rise will NEVER be appreciated by Chinese/communists or Bible land USA nor by their agents in India!!

[@realnapster1522]

This is democrats way of virtue signaling. They are bad for both US and India.

[@junkookbts1273]

@@realnapster1522 not for the US. For India maybe.

[@funkyamii]

Look at the timing. India buying cheap Russian oil, doing joint drills, and PM claiming just day before yesterday we need closer relationships - and the US counters with emboldening Pak.

[@bjayyy]

Interestingly Shekhar ji did not mention tejas aircraft which have BVR and can be fitted with foreign missiles apart from astra with modern flyby air.. also no mention of Tejas MK 2 which will become the mainstay of IAF Shows the generational gap and old Marxist mindset of disdain and contempt for anything Indian

[@joshihemant2568]

Completely agree!! I also don't expect, SG to mention Late Manohar Parrikar, First 'Technocrat' Raksha Mantri, of India, who nullyfied the block 52 sale of F16 @ 2013-14 with fantastic deal of Rafale, This tilted the balance in India's favor, so much that, What I read that China fears India's Air force now!! All of Rafale's ordered, are with India's pocession now!! If Air force still functions on Resp. Parrikar's method, we can build our own aircrafts Now!!

[@SuperReHaN16]

No matter how much we try, India's allies will never abandon Pakistan.

[@megda1000]

Sir, the package is mainly for spares and maintenance.....upgrade would have costed billions

[@vickybhadwani2689]

So basically tactically Pakistan will keep outsmarting India and India will dust it off and move on like nothing happened and be happy that it has strategic edge.? IAF must build punitive tactical capabilities quickly..

[@jayantkumar2314]

Now the drone will fly over pakistan to attack Taliban

[@ankitsinghbisht8789]

Its already flying in Afghanistan

[@sarishgupta6540]

Reference of tejas is missing..brief capability of the domestically produced fighter plane was expected.

[@nitinpatel1039]

Why should be care, we might soon, get, F18 super hornet, along with another tender for Rafale

[@tubro541]

India should boycott all companies that deal with the Pakistani military.

[@Jam-js3ie]

It doesn't matter because you have no skill pilots for f18 . Take your loses seriously

[@niweshlekhak9646]

@@tubro541 well Pakistan also has Mirage, so will you boycott France.

[@tubro541]

@@niweshlekhak9646 what you posted makes absolutely no sense. The mirage aircraft that Pakistan has are very old. France currently has little or no dealings with Pakistan and little or no diplomatic relations with Pakistan either. India is the world's largest international arms importer/market, and Pakistan has little or money. Most arms companies will not trade with Pakistan, and risk being denied any and all access to the massive Indian arms market, not to mention India's massive civilian equipment Market.

[@mobeenansari2076]

PAF also acquired J-10 this year. So this is the most recent platform in our use, not JF-17

[@ipsofactoraj]

You completely ignored the Tejas which can also deal with the F-16’s

[@Globaldefense13]

There are no implications as its a routine maintenance and nothing more.

[@thatswhatshesaid7935]

A day without Hypocrisy is a waste for USA🇺🇲🙃

[@helcurt2509]

india need to stop being concubine of us and russia.

[@Skytop63]

As a Pakistani im fed up with this F-16 drama for last 30 years. i really wish they go away from PAF.

[@tubro541]

India should sanction all US companies that deal with the Pakistani military. They could call it the countering genocidal terrorist business act. CGTBA. India is the world's largest defense equipment buyer so they do have a lot of clout when it comes to defense contracts.

[@badassbatman7082]

bhai F404 and F414 engine same company hii provide krr rahi h🙂🙂🙂

[@nandanjha3551]

You need to have balls to do that which India lacks !

[@badassbatman7082]

@@nandanjha3551 hmmm ........accha...... hahahahaha..........

[@biswaroopmaiti2943]

@@badassbatman7082 That is GE. Not LM.

[@nandanjha3551]

@@badassbatman7082 Jo desh China k against statement deney sey darta ho on international forums (jis desh ney India ki zameen kabza rakhi hai)wo US k against koi bada action ley lega?? Thoda to akal lagaao!! Sapne dekhna achi baat hai lekin thoda haqikat sey bhi Juda hona chahiye! Ab samjhe kyu bola ki India lacks balls to do that?? Ki baat upar sey nikal gayi?

[@abhinav7506]

using the f word in news is work of art. Shekhar gupta is cool dad/uncle, we all wished we had.

[@Abhishek-zb3dp]

After two consecutive episodes on South India, it was high time Shekharji made an episode on Northwest India.

[@sanaproper]

Say south of India and North west of India.. instead of south India, North west India

[@azeemsoona]

@@sanaproper And by saying that, every issue gets resolved by itself?

[@nrusimha11]

@@sanaproper or southern India, northern India, etc.

[@usmanqureshi08]

Shekhar is punjabi So how can he stop talking about his homeland Pakistan. Indian Punjabis love Pakistanis more then behari/marthi/Tamils of India

[@Abhishek-zb3dp]

@@sanaproper Why?

[@immrankhalid]

07:50 Chacha Gupta Ji, Pakistan didn't alter the balance of power in the region, it was India who long ago had a nuclear test, had planned to attack on Kahuta Pakistan's nuclear facility by the end of 80 so Pakistan had to rush for some deterrence as it didn't have any capable aircraft to thwart Indian air attack.

[@offred6013]

All 4 wars were initiated by Pak always . U r living in a wonderland. India never planned any attack on any country ever. Ur armys propoganda is what has made ur country worlds biggest begging bowl.

[@ganeshnaik9463]

You're army general zia ul haque myth it was that's it pakistan is not in our radar

[@jaggar28]

I'm from Bangladesh and a big fan of your channel. It's hard to see balanced journalism now-a-days. Keep up the good work!

[@akshaysudhi8706]

Today's episode is dedicated to all those fools clamouring for better cooperation with us establishment and the proponents of India -us Bhai Bhai

[@junkookbts1273]

Well , Russia sells weapons to both of your enemies and Indians say IT IS JUST BUSINESS

[@psingh007]

Snehesh doing this is more apt

[@assertivekarma1909]

I'm not familiar with all calculations behind the scenes, precise assessments of current Pakistani strategic cooperation... but before Russian invasion of Ukraine, I would have said Pakistan has been disappointing partners, and India is a more logical ally (tho they don't inherently need to be mutually exclusive) but Indian behavior has been disappointing lately also. I would be reluctant to sell to Pakistan because they should be focusing on internal democratic reforms, budget shortfalls, and current humanitarian crisis...

[@hpremjit]

Disappointed in India because India decided not to be part of the recession economies by buying Russian oil. India is an independent democratic country. Respect that.

[@ArmageddonIsHere]

"Indian behavior has been disappointing lately "???? Is it disappointing that India is looking out for its own people's interests above all else? Or that it refuses to be a toady like Pakistan?

[@svanimation8969]

That few f-16 can't do anything ! 😙

[@ADITYAKUMAR-mb5ht]

The only thing you can do is to give loans to pakistan than sell weapons to pakistan which is a unstable Country,one day pakistan will be collapsed and all the fighter jets , nuclear bomb etc will become under Taliban control ,than beacause the thing that Western world have done with muslims , Taliban will use those weapons against US with collaboration with Iran ... Than you will realise the difference between good terrorism or bad terrorism , Selling weapons to pakistan will hit your Economy very hardly Congratulations 🎉,you are shooting at your own path,

[@dhanushgowda4061]

Did we sign up to against Russia no we did for china we have Pakistan china with 70% Russian weapons I think USA backstabbing Japan Taiwan South China Australia asean etc we need peace deal with China condemn Russia in U.N. for name sake like Europe buying oil 45% turkey sending Ukraine weapons and have good ties with China Russia We remained loyal against china think we should have clear USA real face now Pakistan also as china ally. We should think about it

[@satya12389]

Sir,forgot to mention about J 10 in pakistan air force. is it really thread for IAF?

[@69films39]

India's main opposition party started the longest padyatra yesterday to unite the country and raise the issues of common people. Meanwhile journalist like Shekhar Gupta is discussing Pakistan F-16 upgrade issue. This is how media blacks out initiative of opposition parties.

[@AP-do6sv]

Rahul gandhi is BJP's number 1 campaigner. protesting atta in litres and what not. not covering him is a blessing for congress

[@ThePrintIndia]

In] take your point. Please do tell me what’s the ‘clutter’ in that yatra?

[@ZubairKhan-ln8rr]

To raise the issues of common people there is already godi media.

[@akwenda3678]

To be fair, I don't see any room for India to make any complaints here.

[@ankitsinghbisht8789]

That's what I am thinking there is no room for US to lecture INDIA on our relations with Russia

[@shahzadmasood4511]

Block-52 deal signed in 2013??? Which planet Shaker uncle belongs to? Sir deal was signed in 2005-06 for 36 aircrafts but in the wake of 2005 earthquake it was reduced to 18 F-16s only and remaining funds were diverted to rehab of people affected by earthquake. 2013 deal was for USED F-16s from Jordon.

[@harisshah6384]

Mr gupta sahib, ur one of the few journalist on both side one can respect. But sir u forgot abt J10c 4++ Pakistan acquired recently

[@os4879]

Insights on Indian and Foreign politics. Defence and Security. Foreign Policy and Affairs. Full Picture of Strategic Affairs. Governance. Social Issues. And the Rest it is for this reason that I Like The Print and the Journalism they adhere to the the Journalists they have. Shekhar Ji , Praveen Ji , Dk Singh Ji. Shankar Ji , Snehesh Ji , Apoorva Ji, Neelam ji and all Others. All the Best and Keep up the Good Work 👍🏻🙏🏻

[@ghulamalimohatarem291]

What a stupid statement that JF17 are grounded they are the backbone of PAF plus do you think that PAF would rely only on 500 ABRAM to defend this story may be for Indian audience not at all factual has he mentioned recently acquired J10 I think 40 in numbers

[@karthik1905]

Success of pak is that after 75years they can still keep india worrying about it.

[@surajs5913]

It doesnt matter how small north korea is or how many people die of famines in north korea. Having nukes with ICBM will make USA still worry about north korea. Can that be called success? If so, i guess you have very low standards of success....

[@djrandomwalker7656]

Even Taliban with rag tag militia is headache for usa. But india has to supply wheat so that they don't die of hunger, sucess?

[@CT-ir1ox]

Why is SG so obsessed with Pakistan? India is well on its way to becoming a super power.

[@ClassicDonkey]

Your information is wrong: 1. Not a single F-16 Block 52 participated in 2019 skirmish 2. Apart from Mig-21, 01 Su-30MKI was also shot down 3. No surface to air missile was used 4. India also shot down their own helicopter which we call as fratricide.

[@gollum7005]

Not only su 30 Pakistan also shot down few stars also

[@ClassicDonkey]

@@gollum7005 you can say whatever you want to say. I just told you the truth which is probably very difficult for you to digest which I understand

[@gollum7005]

@@ClassicDonkey well Kati lulli having Rajput as his surname makes it hard to believe anyways

[@NikhilSharma-nt6ov]

Where did you get this that F-16 radar is more effective than Su-30 MKI?

[@waleedamir2837]

You missed Jf17 block 3 from Pakistan IAF and Pl-15 missile

[@Omair_01]

Recently, Argentina showed interest in buying F-17s!!!

[@CatOfCulture]

F-17s don't exist. Are you talking about JF-17s? They just said that they won't consider them anymore, probably due to American pressure.

[@Akhilkumar0024]

mig 29s BVR capability was much better than pakistans early F16s in fact during kargil f16s started withdrawing everytime mig 29s were on CAP

[@ThePrintIndia]

Yes. Until about 2007 after which PAF began getting long range missiles… tks for writing in.. shekhar

[@dailyindopak]

hats of to you sir for this explanation.

[@nitindesai2600]

India needs to buy F-16v/F-21 and/or F-15ex. This will make IAF a powerfull force against China and Pakistan.

[@ganeshnaik9463]

No need a friendship with usa

[@rajkhosla8513]

Taking toooooo long over historical perspective...slight compression recommended. Buddy, get on with news & analysis

[@zedtrader6027]

Love your comments in Urdu/Hindi. Makes the whole clip so much more appealing......keep it up.

[@glennevers4952]

Old F16 jet engine mounts based on Alloy 718 used to crack due to grain boundary embrittlement. The USA had to make metallurgy patches and alloy changes. It was a problem that was solved by special time/temperature thermal aging treatment where a large oven is used to perfectly make the proper metal chemistry. Read my published Naval Research Lab article. “An investigation of second phases in alloy 718 using electrolytic extraction techniques.” Thank you for pointing out the value of USA warrantees, think of a tiger on a leash as a good thing for Neighbors who prefer peace. As was implied in the KZbin, the USA stands behind it’s advance F16 technology and will provide maintenance support 30 years later as long as the customer is friendly towards maintaining peace! The F16 is a real bargain, look how long it lasted! Go ahead and make your own jets but know that each jet “power cycle” , that high G, Ultra fast climb and acceleration, causes the hot metal to redistribute the metal elements. Ask your jet engine supplier if they have metallurgists who can show you thermal fatigue data versus metal phases.. The public has no idea how severe the F16 training missions are compared to the non-aggressive testing done by competition…imagine buying a brand new multimillion dollar car and you decide to purposely run it at what seems like an ultra destructive speed without regard to the value of the car…run the engine in neutral at FULL rpm for 30 minutes. The engine glows red and smoke pours out and the exhaust pipe looks like it is going melt. Now add the stress of pushing a tractor trailer, repeat this every hour for three cycle times. Keep running a Power cycle every day. The USA and UK have many years of super sophisticated metallurgy secrets. Believe me, competitive jet engines lack the longevity due to real world constant Power cycle thrusts. If you search the KZbin, in a recent video you can find a Russian MIG losing control on a power cycle take off, I suspect the engine metals are failing. A typical USA jet training run uses 3 power cycles per run, extremely high temperature, very stressful thrusts used only in war! Russia now knows that their new MIGs are micro fatigue cracking and have severe thermal fatigue problems under real world western war conditions. All the countries who bought from a Russian terrorist state have no warranty on such a maintenance intensive jet.