Stop doing this

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Here's an example review where I showed and tested the AIO in different positions. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqOnqJiqpLKJjtE

[@T_Alexandrov_47]

the problem is that people didnt understood what GN said... It basically doesnt matter where the tubes of the cooler are! It's important where the PUMP is! The pump should always be lower than the highest point of the cooler!

[@illmannered1]

You mean chubes?

[@jm7468]

because GN did a horrible explanation and woffled for 45 minutes so people only see his clickbait headlines, hell jay2cent explained tubes higher than pump = good in 2minutes

[@MOAB-UT]

It matters. Just like when you vent your Furnace out of your hose- all of the exhaust tubes must be going up. Must be no downward turns, even if it eventually ends up high. I learned that from my plumber. So yes, pump needs to be low but then the tubes should go UP and away. Never up, down, around up, down out. UP, UP, UP...if this makes sense.

[@Xsetsu]

@@jm7468 Yeah, I like GN and all, but they way over complicate explanations and such a bit too much.

[@motowillg5398]

@@jm7468 Literally this. My exact thoughts after watching that video.

[@sjakiedevuilnisman]

Would you say you got provoked?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Every day

[@xVictorReis]

one of the most underated pc youtubers !!!

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Thank you

[@praetorxyn]

I know it doesn't cool as well, but I just prefer a top mounted rad as I think it looks much better aesthetically >_> Side mounted tubes REALLY bother me aesthetically, and I can't explain why. That's why the Hydroshift is my dream cooler. I just wish they'd make a 420mm version and 140mm wireless TL fans :)

[@MOAB-UT]

You have a blessed life if these are the things that REALLY bother you son. Try living in Gaza or Ukraine. Very spoiled life. Try not to spill your Starbucks when gaming.

[@praetorxyn]

@@MOAB-UT Ah. The old relative privation fallacy. Carry on.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Fair enough!

[@andydbedford]

@@MOAB-UTwtf are you talking about 😂

[@mbrosenb86]

Having no radiator on all your exhaust fans really helps motivate hot air out of the case quickly

[@Izanagi-Arsene]

rule of thumb, top mounting and side mounting with tubes down is completely fine, side mount with tubes top is okay long as the highest point is the radiator. it has a slight acoustic problem as the water slowly evaporates over time. bottom mounting and side mounting with the block being the highest point is just no. even if the pump is in the rad, you still don't want air getting trapped in the cooling block.

[@RealMelTan]

Thank u for these great info! I will try more side / front mount rads now. Been top mounting all my years of building PC. Oh yes, i saw your flip the rad so that the tubes go to the bottom. Do the tubes get the way of building?

[@SpaceyMonkey75]

Thank you! 1000% agreed! Front/side mount for the win! I have enjoyed having tubes at the bottom, but it's far from essential.

[@Aurahead]

This is also the setup that I prefer. And been using for ages without having any pump fail. On my other build I have top mounting and I can clearly see the temp different.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

👍 Thanks for sharing

[@NeverLucky-RubberDucky]

Leave prawn alone he's one of the best out here.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

[@andydbedford]

I absolutely agree, however you are always going to get air in the system, it’s called permeation, and that happens on a closed and open loops, it’s just science.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Eventually

[@chris_hertford]

I'm convinced fans are 90% aesthetics and 10% actual cooling. Love to see a testing vid where you put like one fan in a case and see what difference it really makes. My case Corsair 3500x (top mounted 360) has 1 in-take and 7 exhaust fans and thermals are just not noticeable! Note I would swap 3 of the fans to exhaust if I had some nice reverse blade option.

[@MOAB-UT]

I hear you. Good news is testing can definitely rove which way is best for a particular system. Fans do matter but they are somewhat over rated. I find it ironic and funny how we obsess over them in large desktops, yet tiny, even more powerful MacBooks run perfectly fine with barely any fans. I think they realized they can make money selling cooling systems. I have 8 fans so I am guilty but they are RGB and at least look great. I have 3 exhaust fans with my side AIO. All the rest are in. I like venting out using 3 fans. Removing heat is more important than just blowing air into the case. A refrigerator does not just add cold. It's main job is to remove heat. That is why there is a condenser. The definition of cold is the absence of heat.

[@chris_hertford]

@MOAB-UT I think I'm gonna reverse the 3 side fans to intake and do some testing, for the science! I grew up in an era with single 80mm exhaust at the back and that was it! My fans are just to look pretty in RGB schemes.

[@MOAB-UT]

@@chris_hertford I would be curious to hear your results. Post back. I think having at least 3 fans blowing OUT will be clutch. Removing heat is key. Just blowing air IN that can't get out at the same rate is dumb IMHO- but tests could prove me wrong. With an AIO, you ideally want to draw cooler air IN over the fins but in reality, most blow warm air OUT over them. Even still, my temps never went above 45C when gaming to Forza 5 yesterday for 30 minutes. I also run a cold CPU- 9 7900 AMD. 65 watts. It never went over 38 watts. I can toggle PBO and bump it up to 200 watts. It's a great CPU and extremely efficient. 3.7 GHz that can boost up to over 5 GHz. Which AIO and fans do you use? I have Corsair and Titan AIO. It's great but my exhaust uses different fans- RX which unlike the others do not offer the cool Time WARP effect. I use two different hubs. 8 fans total. Lian Li Vision case which is really nice- all glass.

[@chris_hertford]

@MOAB-UT same CPU 7900x it's a Corsair elite 360, the fans are all Corsair LL120's my one intake is a LL140 at the bottom. Everything else pushing air out

[@MOAB-UT]

@@chris_hertford Nice. Mine is not the X but with a click of the PBO button, I get about 95% there. Otherwise, in normal day to day tasks, I run super cool and efficient. 40C'ish most of the time. I have never once hit the 65 watt limit. That will change once I start playing Cyberpunk and get my new RTX 5070Ti GPU. The LL fans look great but there performance for moving air is not great. You might want to add a few RX or QX fans IF you need to achieve better thermals. If thermals are fine- then leave them.

[@kutdownongaming78]

I used your suggestions for my iCUE h100i lcd aio, I have it mounted to top with hoses coming down. And I must say I like it coming down to the pump. But I took your suggestion and it fine.

[@jones77wrx]

Some AIOs are built to a lower standard and will usually just last past the warranty. Out of the 10 AIOs I have put in builds since 2020 only the 2 Silverstone 360mm AIOs with one year warranties have failed. All the AIOs with 5 year warranties are still fine. I have had no issues with my 13th gen i9s and top mounted AIOs. All are in Lian Li EVO(2xXL) cases and use either 360mm EK or 420mm Artic Freezers. All can get through R23 without thermal throttling even pulling 320 watts and all have an average idle below 30c. I think some cases have some issues with some hardware.

[@napalmstrike2007]

I really wish there was a case with push&pull aio's in mind, that allow the radiatior to pull fresh air, and push the heated air straight out. not inside the case. I don't know how one can make such a case without it looking ugly af, but that would be the ideal case for me. I mean it is doable, maybe a side mount in the front of the case that has its own chamber and some silicone holes for the tubes to go in, and meshes at both sides. actually this would be the bomb. lian li, you got the tip. if anyone would do this, it is you.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

You could have front as intake and then side mount as exhaust and so have the front air immediately sucked out through the radiator but not perfect imo

[@UKMadMike]

Phanteks nv7 and 9 is great for this

[@WooBino.]

I did the side raditator in exhaust with a 360 AIO in the Vision case tubes up and three fans pushing and three fans pulling out. Three 140s on the bottom and two 120 exhaust out the back. Temps idle today are 45c CPU and 29c GPU.

[@sdtarango84]

I have the same AIO but mounted the radiator on the top as exhaust and have not had any problems in a year and a half. Temperatures could be better but I undervolted the 14900k, so it runs reasonably cool. However, it's time to deep clean my PC (I do it every 6 months) and I'm going to reapply thermal paste to the CPU, so I am going to take your advice and mount the radiator on the side as intake. I just don't really like how the AIO tubes look that way. I'll post an update if in fact the temperatures get better. My rig is in a Hyte y70 Touch, i9 14900k, RTX 4090, Corsair DDR5 Ram, NZXT N7 z790 MB, and 8 TB of Samsung SSD storage. Thanks for your videos!

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Hope you've been looking out for bios updates

[@Bulzack]

Mounted an Artic III 420 with six fans push/pull configuration taking from outside. It works perfect with a 14900K.

[@motowillg5398]

Gamers Nexus did a terrible job of explaining the tubes at the top when front mounting. I think they literally said "there's no issue other than sound...but uh...you still shouldn't do it" and all the arm chair PC experts heard "don't do it" and now its all they post on videos. Great Explainer. You just don't want your pump to be the highest point. Thats it.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Yes indeed

[@hectorrobles3986]

Si tengo un 7600x el radiador lo puedo poner en la parte superior? Creo que es mas cómodo para mí.

[@OmnathD3]

I've been critical of one of your videos before and you did take the time to respond. I found this video helpful especially considering you are talking about your experience regarding temps with the different configs as well. I see that you do a lot with Lian Li products. I personally have had shocking experiences with their products, Specifically their fans. Have you had issues with bearing noise on any of them? After many returns I'm giving up on Lian Li as a brand. Their customer support isn't bad, I just keep getting fans and AIOs that break. Perhaps it's just bad luck. Anyway, have a updoot for this video.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Sorry to hear that. I've not had issues but obviously I'm not running all their different fans long term. Though I have been using the SL infinity fans for ages with no issues.

[@GoldenKnight702]

The prawn knows! He is wise!

[@MasterJangleLeg]

So if i'm understanding correctly. If i side mount my AIO and have the fans as intake as well as the front intake with my rear and top as exhaust that would be most sufficient?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Yup

[@artemas7076]

I'm here to tell you "Stop provoking the provoked prawn" lol. In all seriousness I just built a new PC using the Lian Li O11 Evo XL and used alot of your content for help and have my 360 AIO side mounted with a push pull set up and its working fantastically. One quick question, the ROG Strix GPU you're using, does the Lian Li Anti Sag bracket fit that GPU? I'm also using the Anti Sag bracket and have 4090 founders and it barely fits so I'd be pleasantly surprised if the Rog Strix would fit with that bracket

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Yes

[@lilclm64]

Built a pc in 2016 its been bottom mount since, never had my kraken fail.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

@@lilclm64 ha. Brilliant

[@syhler1876]

thet 011 XL case i plan on 420mm aio in top and 360mm aio GFX in the back, and 480mm(4X120mm) intake buttom. hope that works out

[@daniel1212uk]

I have been building computers for 25 years never had a problem

[@mbrosenb86]

YES! SIDE MOUNT KINGS!

[@alfredomacdonald5570]

When you say set them as intake on the side mounted AIO, do you mean intaking from the inside of the case thus exhausting out of the back?

[@mikebaker2927]

When we say intake, it refers to bringing air in from the outside of the case.

[@MOAB-UT]

Is that a real question Alfie? INtake. You do the math son. Never ask such silly questions again.

[@Map_of_Your_Head]

thanks gamers nexus

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

urgh

[@katzicael]

Steve/GN need to put out a New video on this - telling people to *STOP BEING STUPID* because they wholly misunderstood what he said. Even Jayz2cents did a similar video - and then a 2nd one telling people to stop being Fookin Idiots.

[@MOAB-UT]

I have 2 intake in rear. 3 140mm intake at the bottom and 3, 120 exhaust on the side (AIO.) Temps seems great- 40C's even when playing Forza5 for 30 minutes. I have a cool running CPU that probably also helps- the Ryzen 9 7900. Very efficient and powerful 12 core CPU. 64GB DDR5 running up to 6,000 but never hits that. PBO is off. EXPO is on. AsRock X670E MOBO. Old RX470 GPU. Waiting on my 5070Ti. 850 RM850x Corsair power supply.

[@onlypvpcaterina-6669]

I top mount my aio cooler and it sits on 32oc - 35oc on full load, So mounting it the way suggest in the video is not necessarily true, Regardless of the cpu, I have a friend who had a 13900k mount it the same way as me, And his temps were low also, So either way in the video is fine overall 😘

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

But have you tried side mounted intake?

[@omnirhythm]

How dare this youtube NPC talk down on us main characters? Where is the world headed to? /s... People need to learn to pause, look at who it is they're questioning, and then make a rational judgement of how big the chance is the person is doing it wrong. But no, snap judgement and Dunning-Kruger effect take over.

[@diogopadrao4118]

You get a lot of these comments? I never noticed. Wait until people see how AIO are mounted on horizontal on the DK07

[@rmorenberg]

brilliant as always

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Thanks for watching

[@rmorenberg]

@@TheProvokedPrawn Always. great content

[@norkris8729]

half a year ago provoed provoked prawn told me front was not the best cuz it was too restricted trololol

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

That video is very old and for that case airflow was rubbish and I stand by that xD

[@norkris8729]

@@TheProvokedPrawn that was a high airflow (in the front) case

[@daunted232]

How can blowing hot air into a case, provide the best temps for your system? Compared to blowing hot air out the top of the case?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

It's not as hot as you would assume. I've tested in multiple builds. Just check my case review playlist.

[@theopszone6775]

Yeah same here... On my builds I get the same comments. With the understanding those don't get it. Jaystwocents explains it better.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Frustrating

[@supemetalheaddrummer]

top of front mounted doesnt make that much difference, intake Rad would bring the cpu temp down a little and push the warm/hot air into the system, whereas top will have slightly higher CPU temps but a slightly lower system temp. this is all with static fans, so the case fans with a curve will see the case temp lower. the overall temp difference is not big enough to make a difference for most people, unless you are trying to squeeze every bit of performance out of the CPU by over clocking either will be just fine and wont make a meaningful difference.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

That is just theory. I have tested and system temps are fine not hotter.

[@supemetalheaddrummer]

@TheProvokedPrawn might also be the case, but about a 4 degree increase on the GPU temp from the testing I've seen on this. so nothing really to worry about, people can mount on the front or in the top which ever they prefer.

[@Dazulolwarrior]

The year is 2025 and idiots still misunderstood what Steve said in that video

[@AndroidBeacshire]

GNs massively over complicated guide could have been a single sentence

[@iio58]

The worst part of PC’s. People who think they know it all and spout their “expertise” when they really know sod all.

[@RealBaldnold]

Great video as always

[@meganschafer7329]

NO.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

🫣😬

[@Ruby_Mochii]

Since aio has higher heat capacity I prefer top mounted, I also don't like circulating too much hot air inside the case. Nothing wrong with side or front mounted. I'd like to keep my gpu as cool as possible since i do gaming mostly and can affect frames since it boost based on its temps. Ideally id prefer all the heat is dumped outside the case but its too dear, or at least higher capacity for heat so the temps in the case wouldn't be too hot.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

My testing shows it doesn't impact the GPU

[@hard8gamingandagslive559]

Top mount is best period

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Nope

[@cheekster777]

Thanks.

[@uwhat1]

Dont agree with you but good luck with the five-year trial

[@deadchannelfrom2018]

I mean, you’re wrong lmao.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Lmfao 🤣

[@b.h.6307]

You're mounting your cooler wrong, and misunderstanding the logic of how it should be mounted.

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

😝

[@frikkievuiltrens]

@b.h.6307 please enlighten us ...

[@megadeth8592]

what a pointless video

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

Thanks

[@xVancha]

Isn't everything pointless, ultimately? What are you going to do when the heat-death of the universe comes for you?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

@@xVancha haha

[@hankwest5662]

Such a long video explaining which one is better without any actual benchmarks or data. So we just take your word for it?

[@TheProvokedPrawn]

I've made a video (kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4LGqox-fNl0qNU) and you can watch previous case reviews where I've built in a case multiple ways to show the difference with thermal testing.

[@Marbleshade]

As if the people saying "that's wrong" are supplying any benchmarks or data to back up their point.