MOST COPIED ARTISTS VOL 2: A Day To Remember, Slayer, Three 6 Mafia, Motley Crue + more

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

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[@Landon657]

Already following

[@massttrshrdrharmonicminor2002]

Technically brutal melodic in theory metal

[@ghostsinthesnow_makes_music]

talk about FIDLAR!

[@hechticgaming7193]

aww man, you have to listen to the Joy Division album Unknown Pleasures man. That album is so fucking influential and so damn good. The next one was that amazing though good, but Unknown Pleasures and the first track especially just grab you

[@carlzombie6722]

I love you Finn, but even tho Imma cool guy I'm not Hip enough for the Gram 😆 just hip to the fact my Brother...which is you're one of my favorite KZbinrs of ALL TIME ! One Love Bruv ❤✌💜💯💯💯🖤♠

[@killslay]

The Smiths started the whole hating on your hometown thing, but Morrissey doesn't have any friends

[@iiGODLYWARRIOR]

seriously tho. His own band fucking hated him 😆🤘

[@bobbyp8009]

@@iiGODLYWARRIOR small price to pay, he’s got some of the most diehard fans worldwide

[@jessenunez7205]

I wouldn’t say I hate my hometown but I hate certain areas of it due to memories it brings back ya know?

[@huggiedistance]

Honestly, who would want to be friends with him? His music may be good, but he's a total fascist.

[@ConvincingPeople]

@@huggiedistance I mean, even beyond that, before his bizarre politics became obvious, the guy was a huge asshole. Really strong songwriter, really unpleasant man. That said, Johnny Marr seems very chill.

[@emanuelthecreator6164]

Last time I was this early, everyone copied Asking Alexandria instead of Architecs

[@briankerrigan3529]

Nice recycle!

[@emanuelthecreator6164]

@@briankerrigan3529 thanks dude, appreciate it!

[@briankerrigan3529]

@@emanuelthecreator6164 welcome, it really was a sincere compliment , btw, gonna link ya the vid from which I got that phrase. If you’ve yet to see this video, you so owe it to yourself. It’s comedy gold.

[@briankerrigan3529]

@@emanuelthecreator6164 kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXW3aWd-hqd7gq8

[@La_br00tal_mija]

😂😂😂😂

[@nitzbitz1]

It's insane how Yellowcard used their psychic powers to rip off a song that was written in 2011 when they wrote their 2003 hit Ocean Avenue.

[@MEGAeyesWillDIE]

Right? Lucky us. Otherwise they wouldn't have been able to inform Fall Out Boy, Boys like Girls, All Time Low or any of the other countless pop punk bands that released a song about leaving their crappy town before 2010.

[@nicoleeeooo]

😂😂😂

[@toddosterhout9866]

😂😂😂

[@nicoleeeooo]

@DansWarped one is never good enough! 👀😂😂😂

[@Leo4gzs]

Came here looking for this comment

[@berriedalive]

Super interesting. Thanks for making this. Back when I was in local bands, the promoters would always encourage us to sound more like the popular bands from the area, and bands that would draw consistent numbers. Maybe there’s a lot of that within each scene and it’s partially contributing to the band/sound cloning? Cool to see you’re a huge Pantera fan as well! 🙏🍓🤘

[@oliviacaron7088]

I love watching these videos because I always leave with bands that I’ve never heard of but start to love. So many discoveries and I appreciate all the research and work that goes into these

[@xisumavoid]

You are so right about Slayer and metalcore. I feel like i never hear that connection talked about enough!

[@maxheilman5314]

Metalcore loves slayer and pantera :p

[@tw0_th3rty]

Wow it's xisuma

[@TheBLEGHrWitch]

A wild xisuma appears

[@_serpent]

I feel when metalcore exploded it went in two ways, influenced by Slayer and influenced by At The Gates. Rest is history.

[@jeremycrump4162]

@@_serpentnailed it

[@DaveRichardsonFitness]

ADTR 2011: I hate this town, it's so washed up ADTR 2013: Woaaaah This Is Where I Came From! This is what made us who we became! They know me not just my name, There's not another place the same

[@aliaulman]

They became soooo successful within 2 years that they changed their mind from hating their hometown to grateful they ever started the band there

[@antftwx]

​@@aliaulman To be fair, their albums just flip/flop between love/hate of their hometown.

[@narwhaljenkem347]

in 2010 they were shitting on lauderdale, and in 2013 they were praising ocala

[@luciskies]

To be fair most Floridians (including myself) have a love/hate relationship with FL. So yea lol 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@ConvincingPeople]

Combine the two and you'd have some pop-punk mirror universe version of Rammstein's "Deutschland".

[@TheBLEGHrWitch]

I saw an interview where Brendan Murphy was insulted that people said they were ripping off Architects, because “we’ve been ripping off Misery Signals for 10 years” lol

[@MrMerzforthewin]

I was totally down for the blatant misery signals influence. Interpretation is the sincerest form of flattery

[@nightwingx0126]

That dude is not only a great vocalist but he’s also hilarious I tell ya

[@ConvincingPeople]

See also people accusing Colin Meloy of The Decemberists of imitating Jeff Mangum from Neutral Milk Hotel only for him to say point blank that he's been doing a Michael Stipe impression for years and no-one noticed because his voice just sounds like that.

[@NightElveee]

I follow him on Twitter and he's for sure funny reading his tweets is usually hilarious

[@alextaylor417]

i love how open they are about how similar they sound to misery signals. but i think theyve been kinda making their own sound along the way.

[@ThisWildLife]

That DJ Paul and Lord Infamous flow sounds so similar to ASAP Ferg “Shabba” damn

[@khalis6973]

I mean the ASAP Mob members are basically southern rappers that just so happened to be from NY

[@DrClocktopus1]

Ferg is very up front about his influences with multiple references in most of his tracks.

[@arrowsplayground]

Alot of people think he is from Memphis.

[@t6amygdala]

I thought A$AP Nast’s verse on Yamborghini High was Juicy J for the longest time until I realised Juicy J only did ad libs for the song

[@treasurehunter3369]

They r very up front about their love for three 6

[@tommyinreallife]

Props to you Finn for giving Lord Infamous a shout-out. SO MANY people have no clue who he even was but dude was SUPER influential in hip-hop. He started not only that triple style flow but even some of the aesthetics (darkness) and shit with the whole scarecrow thing. I highly recommend checking out his solo stuff. It's dark, dirty and hardcore as hell. He basically helped but horrorcore on the map. REST IN PEACE SCARECROW OG! And kids - stay off lean and drugs in general ! They are not cool, even if your favorite rapper or band(s) talk about them.

[@artvandelay48]

This. I’m a huge three six fan. It’s nice to see project pat getting some recognition lately too. I love the patstah.

[@lynnromanusa]

Here to defend Vedder's vocals, especially on PJ's "Ten".

[@coopershira7504]

Thank god I was looking for this comment

[@AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic]

I think he was the only good Yarl-er (Yarl-er? Would that be how to say it? Maybe Yarl-ist? 😆)

[@lynnromanusa]

@Luke haha fair enough. Much less yarling. Although my wife is highly irritated by Corgan's nasally voice lol, I love it.

[@FXIIBeaver]

Nothing wrong with ten. Yellow Ledbetter is the one that has a problem.

[@victorsjostedt4393]

Yellow Ledbetter is the best unintelligible song ever written, prove me wrong.

[@quintangeorge94]

Joy Division is Post Punk.

[@briankerrigan3529]

I always saw them as indie new wave.

[@thatbitchashley828]

@@briankerrigan3529 why not Jazzy Indie?

[@zulubunsen9067]

I have a feeling this comment was authored before the 15:35 mark.

[@briankerrigan3529]

@@zulubunsen9067 🤣

[@briankerrigan3529]

@@thatbitchashley828 Could be, but I’ll stick to my story.

[@svdderdvze6070]

“Djenting about being in their feelings...” Laughing out loud.

[@AaronMorgan666]

*laughs in 8 string*

[@EnvisionedBlindness]

Laughs in sub 8Hz

[@wolffcub101089]

Easily one of my favorite videos you’ve made. It’s easy to see how much fun and enjoyment you had while editing in your jokes and clips. Always great to see creators having a good time.

[@csj9619]

Love your honesty bro. Also, this was a rather humorous installment. Really liked it

[@lexidarling]

Punk Rock MBA: The only channel where you can get Tigertailz and Spaceghostpurrp references in the same video. This was definitely one of your best.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Lol! That is a pretty funny combo now that you put it like that

[@ConvincingPeople]

Somebody needs to do a phonk album that extensively samples C-list glam/sleaze-metal bands and somehow makes it work with the necro Memphis-by-way-of-Stockholm vibes.

[@qriminal1648]

He just likes to seem so random.

[@mattf2967]

In some alternate universe Finn discovers Joy Division at 15 instead Snapcase.... hurts to think what could have been.

[@stg_tmc]

he would have been part of the early 2000’s Brit pop mod scene lol

[@ConvincingPeople]

That would be a very interesting timeline. But hey, I discovered JD at thirteen and I'm here, so…?

[@fitzalanfoodreviews1498]

@@ConvincingPeople as a 13 year old post punk fan i gotta say i like both

[@nativemerc]

He could’ve liked indie.. lol

[@dr.dionpeoples]

Snapcase, tight/amazing band, annoying vocals, but I had all their albums!

[@NITE_SHIFTING]

'It's not the side effects of the cocaine, I'm thinking that it must be love' is a lyric from STATION TO STATION by DAVID BOWIE.

[@nicholasromig5506]

it's too late to be hateful...

[@cristidragomir6116]

@@nicholasromig5506 too late to be late again

[@nicholasromig5506]

@@cristidragomir6116 amazing song

[@CoreyReviews]

I love yarling vocals. I found out about Pearl Jam very late, but back in 5th grade Creed and bands with that sound were my gateway into a different world of music and began my love for rock. It’s all very nostalgic now. Plus, yarling vocals is the easiest for me to replicate with myself so I have a massive soft spot for it.

[@kylemcgill2966]

10:18 *That nostalgia feeling was crippling. I got sucked back to my Grandma's couch thinking I was getting away with something because I thought it was an adult TV show. Give a warning first Finn!* *Great video.*

[@pukess6990]

The "D-beat" band playing at the end in the background is my band. And the name is Romantiker (The Romantic). Not anything with "Dis". We have not copied Discharge either other than using d-beat. It's noise punk. Heavely distorted Scandinavian hardcore punk from Sweden. Feel free to look it up 👍🏻

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Small world! Thank you for watching!

[@FilthTribeFTP]

Well now you kinda gotta change your band name to "Disromantiker".

[@BorislavVeselinov]

@@FilthTribeFTP *cue a string of laughing cat emojis*

[@CathodeZodiac]

Your demo rips! Like a long-lost Frigora EP

[@zachbowden1993]

I think my favourite weird song name is “Dragging Dead Bodies In Blue Bags Up Really Long Hills” by Escape The Fate aha

[@yell0w355]

S01E02.Return.Of.The.Arsonist.720p.HDTV.x264 by Blood Command (genuine track name lmao)

[@JacoSkooma]

Ahh yes!! I love that song

[@brandonbrooks779]

You should look up the band Pound. All of their song names are wild haha

[@JacoSkooma]

@@brandonbrooks779 Ight bet lmao

[@ConvincingPeople]

Literally every song title on Fushitsusha's I Saw It! That Which Before I Could Only Sense..., the title track of which is the longest song they ever recorded but not the longest in title. That said, a lot of their song and album titles are literally taken from lines in archaic English and Japanese poetry, if I'm not mistaken, so it's almost cheating? Ditto stuff like the titles Dominick Fernow puts on the tracks from his Exploring Jezebel albums; serious NSFW warning if you search those, by the way, both image-wise and text-wise.

[@artirony410]

"It's Not A Side Effect Of The Cocaine, I'm Thinking That It Must Be Love" is a lyric from the David Bowie song Station To Station

[@LiamP589]

Eddie Vedder, has a great voice. It's just that everyone copies him and it got old quickly...

[@ICLight412]

You think Aaron Lewis copied him? Their first 2 albums didn’t sound like him yarling or Eddie. I guess happened right after “outside” live changed him to a yarling yoddler lol I like Aaron Lewis voice n Staind, especially first 2 albums.

[@doomusrlc]

@@ICLight412 i thought thr Aaron Lewis comparison in the video was off. But I get what they're getting at about Eddie being ripped off in the late 90s

[@doomusrlc]

@@ICLight412 also. Are you counting Tormented as the first of their first 2 albums from them? Hehe

[@tomgig18269]

@@ICLight412 no one shall ever diss Aaron Lewis' perfect voice. That man is a legend. And has damn near one of the most powerful voices in his own respect.

[@ICLight412]

@@doomusrlc yes I’m counting “tormented” that’s their 1sr ;)

[@metabeeprime4187]

Love your videos. I’m a hip hop head but your videos have introduced me to so many “good” bands and “bad” bands that I actually really like now. Respect!!

[@robiu013]

lol, you're probably not gonna make many friends with that eddie vedder bit. i agree that vedder is responsible for yarling and that yarling post-grunge bands are bland, but vedder before them actually pulled it off pretty well, just unfortunate so many others figured out they could water down pearl jam's music and score radio hits with it.

[@AlexGreat321]

Pearl Jam is the only band with that style of vocals that I like (although I'm softening on Creed) I still prefer Mother Love Bone though

[@TenMillionYearProgram42]

Eddie is in a very small club of singers who could pull that off, and since he was kinda OG with it (I know I know tom petty was doing it first yadda yadda), but he certainly made it famous.

[@Thrash_HxC]

Yeah I agree man, I think he pulled it off. Vs. or Ten are probably some of my favorite Albums of all time! I also don't mind Creed or Staind as-much anymore (don't really care for Aaron Lewis).

[@Jmack7861]

I fucking hate those vocals so much and any band that uses them are an instant shit band to me

[@TenMillionYearProgram42]

@@AlexGreat321 I agree but we diverge at Creed. I can not stand Stapp's singing. It's like everyone's really bad eddie vedder impression.

[@kirkwilson6229]

The heavy use of triplet based phrasing was also characteristic of the blues. It completely makes sense that it eventually found it's way into hip hop. Interesting stuff.

[@goliathconner5078]

Interesting. Do you know any examples of blues songs that used them? Thanks in advance

[@TheSksexton]

Not a big blues fan, so I cant speak to the truth of this, but if so, it only makes sense that its transition into rap happened in Memphis...

[@kirkwilson6229]

@@goliathconner5078 every delta blues song ever, basically. The double stop bend triplet is maybe the simgle most common guitar phrase in the blues. I wish I could play it for you. If I did, you would say "that's every blues song ever played." Eric clapton's solo on the accoustic version of Layla is riddled with Robert Johnson style triplets. That's a good modern one that's easy to find. I can find more, but once you hear that solo, you'll hear them everywhere.

[@kirkwilson6229]

@@goliathconner5078 basically any time you can sing "wibbedy wibbedy" to it, that's it.

[@mightymrmousempls]

Curious why you'd say ADTR made up the "leave this town" trend, then show a clip from "Ocean Avenue" by Yellowcard which came out a whole 8 years prior? Seems like it would be the other way round.

[@dbgrfdg]

there will always be someone else who was first.. but it's all about the guys that really get the trend going

[@mightymrmousempls]

@@dbgrfdg I mean sure but it just seems weird to point to a moment in time to say "here is where something started" and then show an example a full 8 years before the trend started... doesn't that seem odd?

[@mista414]

"Ocean Avenue" always seemed (superficially, maybe) like an ode to their hometown/youth, rather than a "we're too cool for you guys" vibe.

[@joeplaysdrums89]

@@mista414 this and Ryan Key was also singing about a love interest instead of hating his hometown or how awesome his friends are.

[@themightypizza6133]

And the other two clips he showed (Great Escape & Skyway Avenue) were both also from before ADTR made the trend

[@brendankenna3343]

Dude, what I love about your videos... I know a lot of about a lot of bands you talk about but you reference so many more I want to know about!!!

[@timmyt603]

Huge fan! So I'm watching and when you explained the long song names as you closed that part up I thought to myself "y'know I don't normally do this but I wanna comment how I appreciate the deep dive into that. I always thought it was weird and now I have some context.".....so that....but as the seconds roll on and I hear you say "Pearl Jam"....I immediately knew what was coming and that alone would've made me comment how much I love you channel so... Thanks for the deep dive. Love to hate that yarl!!!

[@TheBlackfishTully]

"Dogs can grow beards all over" will forever be the best song title, thank you for starting the trend, random band from Vermont

[@CeeJayThe13th]

I like "Lying Is The Most Fun A Girl Can Have Without Taking Off Her Pants" and "You Know That Ain't Them Dog's Real Voices"

[@nikkistewart2896]

This is my favourite part of the genre honestly 😂 makes me laugh

[@SandMBikes2011]

As a Vermonter....How did I not know about them? Damn.

[@terrorontheintercom]

The Devil Wears Prada is from Ohio, not Vermont.

[@TheBlackfishTully]

@@terrorontheintercom I'm aware, the video states Drowningman as starting the trend

[@LOU-oo9zx]

Norma jeans first album is one of the most brutal and best album they made IMO

[@pldgallgnce]

The music that's not for everyone.

[@joshsny143]

Maybe vocally but I just prefer their instrumental palate now when they write heavy riffs

[@princealigorna7468]

I've always thought of Norma Jean as just Converge clones. Very competent Converge clones, but Converge clones nonetheless

[@joshsny143]

@@princealigorna7468 I'd say more Botch influenced but either way converge are the goats of metalcore

[@Ninjamanhammer]

Bless the Martyr Kiss the Child is definitely their best album.

[@MilitantMe]

Your fake story about poking dudes in the chest while wearing a Pantera shirt and saying "are you talking to me?" Is is kind of legendary story that inspires courage in the younger generation. Young hardcore kid: "Wow... then what did you say?" Finn solemnly: "no way punk" Hardcore kid: 😲

[@dougchampion8084]

Then I did a dive bomb and confirmed I was walking away

[@HellKey]

Like and full respect for 16:37 - The Bloody Beetroots, since the guy has also collaborations with Tommy Lee from Motley Crue (was it intended?) 😆

[@biggierants3170]

I appreciate the acknowledgment of Misery Signals. They don’t get enough credit for their influence. For the Fallen Dreams, Counterparts, The Ghost Inside and a ton of others borrowed heavily from their sound. Mis Sigs is super underrated even if their sound isn’t your favorite you can’t deny that they contributed a ton to metalcore/post hardcore. Though they never got super commercially successful, they have a super passionate fanbase that hold them in very high regard. Definitely need more love for Misery Signals on youtube!

[@jacee8094]

I forget if they were mentioned in the last one, but At The Gates riffs basically created early 2000’s metalcore as you’ve mentioned before. Killswitch Engage mentioned that Slaughter of the Soul was their biggest influence and then everyone ripped off Killswitch lol. But I was dying at the HM-2 pedal part, that was gold!

[@mylastchannelgotdeleted6213]

Yes he mentioned at the gates in the last video

[@travisspaulding2222]

At The Gates and Carcass' Heartwork were definitely the blueprint for early 2000s metalcore.

[@Bloods2006]

Coma Eternal, 7 Angels 7 Plagues, Nehemiah, As Hope Dies, and Endthisday were some of the best of the At The Gates copies that are mostly unknown. Although I’d say 7A7P kind of fused that with Cave In’s sound.

[@rubenlopes4558]

The whole Entombed-core sound was started by Trap Them, even before Nails came into the scene. Love these videos Finn.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Thanks! But its not really about who did it first, right?

[@rubenlopes4558]

@@ThePunkRockMBA true tho. Anyway, shoutout to Trap Them

[@ConvincingPeople]

Trap Them are great.

[@CGingRun]

As HUGE Joy Division fan, that intro fucking busted my balls.

[@zombiegunner3arc82]

he says there's too much "small pp energy" around Joy Division in another video..sorry man 😬

[@CGingRun]

@@zombiegunner3arc82 oh I know. I remember he's said that.

[@doddzilla3805]

Gatecreeper is my buddy Eric's band! Thanks for giving them a shout out

[@davidday9967]

I really like this series. As someone unfamiliar with any history this channel makes learning easy. And it's entertaining as a plus.

[@grimreads]

Celtic Frost is the band everybody forgets

[@mirapilates]

The Celtic Frost guitar tone was ripped off big time.

[@The_Other_Ghost]

Who?

[@mirapilates]

@@The_Other_Ghost Celtic Frost from Switzerland.🤣

[@waifubreaks1572]

Ratt pedal

[@burkaytanr7778]

Celtic Frost isn't really copied. Bands that took their guitar tone and vocal approach just created a subgenre. It's not ripping off. It's just driving influence from a band. Cause none of black metal or death metal bands sounds exactly like Celtic Frost. The closest ones are Darkthrone and Obituary and that's all.

[@markclausen5152]

drowningman "busy signal at the suicide hotline" is legendary

[@TheJoEy9090]

Yesss Three Six Mafia getting recognition, they are the most metal rappers tbh

[@ConvincingPeople]

Memphis hip-hop has a weird number of parallels with Scandinavian second-wave black metal, honestly. Like, no rumours of cannibalism or fascists that I know of, but people living tough lives and dying tragically, the fascination with the occult and extreme violence as a lyrical theme, the minimal no-fi composition/production approach, the spooky bullshit surrounding the artists and releases online-it's very kvlt indeed.

[@TheJoEy9090]

@@ConvincingPeople Yeah dog theres like tons of conspiracies that theyre actual Satanists, its crazy

[@TheSksexton]

@@TheJoEy9090 I mean, they were originally called triple six, the old heads still call them that. Numerous references to it in their early works, Boo used to call herself the devil's daughter. Idk if they really were or not, but they certainly played the part...RIP Infamous and Koop!

[@naylavalencia8536]

Omg thank you for mentioning Discharge!! 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

[@real30yearoldboomerhours53]

Great video definitely do another! These are my favorite types of videos you do

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Thank you!

[@mudkips8399]

12:57 ouch, that Zao one hurt me. Never thought about them and Slayer in the same vein but I cant un hear it now

[@ConvincingPeople]

I mean, it's not a dig. Zao are great. It's just that *everyone* was biting Slayer to some degree at that point… and now.....

[@packmanGB]

"Way back in 2000" Ouch dude I could drink in 2001.

[@ICLight412]

Yeah same here, I’m born 80 also, to me ain’t way back so fuck that, way back is 60s, parents days lol Edit spelling

[@ProductionsFromBeyon]

I’d be down for another episode. A couple of ideas ... that funk rock scene in the late 80s and also that terrible “California reggae” that blew up after Sublime.

[@AportesKike]

I'm guilty for loving that Cali Reggae hahaha it's interesting how Sublime is one of those most copied bands

[@laurisaarinen1126]

You're not referring to 311 or Slightly Stoopid tho? Because those bands are sick. Some other ones like Pepper or Dirty Heads... Yeah, pretty bad. And the late 80s funk rock scene... That is my shit right there.

[@AportesKike]

@@laurisaarinen1126 I like all the Stick Figure, Pepper, Dirty Heads, Iration all those summer versions of Sublime

[@11ba6750]

Never thought I'd see footage of drifting at Ebisu in a PRMBA video, but I'm here for it @5:18

[@Necrologymetal]

Kudos for mentioning ZAO - which btw by far was the biggest influence on As I Lay Dying and Killswitch Engage!

[@johnd12]

Slayer’s Read Between the Lies has the ultimate metallic hardcore riff. You could honestly go back and trace a bunch of bands to that one single riff lol

[@sadstatue4]

fun fact: every time i die confirmed in some reddit ama that their name comes from misheard lyrics in drowningmans "busy signal at the suicide hotline"

[@austins88]

I thought it was inspired from the Children of Bodom song. Or did I get it wrong? 🤔

[@sadstatue4]

@@austins88 i thought so too for quite a while. but I dug up the AMA and here's what jordan wrote: "here it is. the real story. prepare to be disappointed. there was a great band called Drowningman that was around when the band started. we were listening to them in a car on the way to a show probably and one of the lyrics was "...every time i dial" and Ratboy said "Every Time I Die, that would be a cool name for the band if it wasn't a lyric already" and someone said "it's not, he says dial not die". we were 16. the word die was cool. we kept it. SORRY!"

[@renatah_90s]

I’m here to support Eddie Vedder. He owned his style and everyone else was just a bad copy cat. Also, I don’t get all these Discharge copy cats. You can’t do Discharge better than Discharge, they were too epic. Anyway, I love these series 💜✨ Keep em coming.

[@henrygvidonas9573]

It's not Vedder's and Staley's fault that their vocal styles got copied to death. Just like it wasn't Eddie van Halen's fault that a million guitarists in shitty "hair metal" bands did bad imitations of his solos in the 80s until people were so sick and tired of them that they either turned to guitarists that copied late 60s/70s players or started to listen to bands that made it a point to have no guitar solos whatsoever.

[@ebrietas-biscuit]

Informative and funny. Keep em comin

[@fbtmof3021]

I’d love to hear your opinion about including poison the well as part of the template of melodic metalcore? In my opinion they were laying down the roots for bands like the ghost inside, misery signals, and counterparts as early as 1999 with their album the opposite of December... a season of separation. Songs like slice paper wrists and 12/23/93 from that album and from later albums, botchla, amongst others, stand out to me as being the template for the genre. I could even make the argument for hopesfall being as influential for the genre as well. I love your content. Looking forward to the next one.

[@mikedx617x]

drowningman - the band that would agree to play literally any show offered to them and never show up. was this schtick performance art? or were they the most unreliable band in history? to this day, i still don't know.

[@robanddonovan]

And when they did show up, they were two hours late and Simon was usually trashed.. but the shows were always a great time. I remember seeing them at The Chance in Poughkeepsie NY. Drove like 2 and a half hours to see them. They showed up so late that they could only play for fifteen minutes. Simon was walking around finishing off spent drinks that were scattered around.. accidentally drank one that had an ashed out cigarette in it in mid song, but kept going. Good times

[@terminaldeity]

I always wondered why they never came around the Philly area. Guess the promoters knew better. Shame, they were a really awesome band. Really underrated.

[@robanddonovan]

@@terminaldeity they didn’t venture out of New England all that much. Being from all the way up in Burlington VT. They usually were in the Boston area or upstate NY. There was one tour they did with Cave In and tDEP that was easily one of the best shows I’ve ever seen.

[@henrygvidonas9573]

They took a page out of Sly Stone's book...

[@terminaldeity]

Also, Converge. With the album Jane Doe, they created a style that is still being imitated 20 years later.

[@ProgressNotesTH]

To me it's more about the production style with that wall of feedback at every break, etc. That's all Kurt Ballou/Godcity

[@daledecker]

okay wait though. Superheaven actually did the yarling and it really grew on me.

[@jonathanmartin8628]

Hi dale

[@arrowsplayground]

Yooo. It's Dale

[@mitchellemmons630]

Love Superheaven

[@botaniccal]

Days of the New, too.

[@smithmx733]

Noooo way! Hey dale nice to see you over here

[@user-bx4nf5xl6c]

I’m so glad I stumbled onto this channel, love the content!

[@jamesmarch1130]

There’s so much in this video and I love it. I really enjoy listening to you break things down and shed light on things I just don’t think about. It’s also refreshing to watch a video that’s not just bashing music you don’t like. Thank you for not being an elitist.

[@Crowseer]

Thats me and my pals on the "discharge" part, Romantiker noisepunk with the d-beat worship from sweden!

[@tonygomez1807]

Totally right about the “chainsaw” guitar tone, my buddy and I were just talking about this the other day, a lot of bands still do that! Fuming mouth, creeping death. Gatecreeper definitely does it the best! That new album is 👌🏾 Also Nails is still an amazing band, crazy to think unsilent death just had its 10 year anniversary!

[@---tx3zr]

The long song titles thing came into scene music via skramz and sass bands in the mid-late 90's. The Locust is the obvious one but stuff like Angel Hair's "You Were Ugly But You Got Cute Again" deserves some recognition, as well as parallel things in math rock and straight forward emo as well.

[@lesmokealotesquair8288]

I cought the no jumper episode and only 42 seconds into it looked you up & hot the bell & all that ... I'm really feeling this channel you obviously know what you talking about & you're videos show keep up the good work bro

[@DanCurtin4]

Thank you for the misery signal shoutout. Most underrated.

[@Szaam]

I'd credit The Locust with being an earlier example and possible influence of the long zany song titles. That became their thing by the late 90s. "Stucco Obelisks Labelled as Trees" "How to Build a Pessimistic Lie Detector"

[@ConvincingPeople]

I mean, that's probably one of the earlier examples in punk-adjacent music, but it does have a different tenor from how the hardcore and later scene bands approached it.

[@ryshort7255]

The Locust or Anal Cunt were the 2 bands in the 90s that I knew of that had those long weird titles. I'd agree that DrowningMan probably didn't pioneer it

[@coygraf7897]

@@ryshort7255 I was about to post this, but you beat me to it. Definitely Agoraphobic Nosebleed and Pig Destroyer too. I think it kinda built off of what grindcore bands in the late 80's and early 90s were doing with longer and more humerous song titles like Carcass and Napalm Death.

[@ManuSDP]

It’s Demilich. Look em up

[@emilyskelton5484]

capn jazz

[@HoChiMints2007]

I'M TRYIN HARD, REAL HARD, EVERYDAY NOT TO LOSE MY TEMPER

[@lilyderooij]

I can't believe that's 10 years old.....

[@Sara-pn3ux]

legendary

[@frontrowvideos3663]

Counterparts frontman Brendan even says himself they’re a carbon copy of misery signals, he’s funny asf

[@lightningboltfiresnake4952]

Great video. A good example for the Joy Division transition would be Ceremony going from Powerviolence to Post Punk, such a massive change in there sound which seperated there fanbase significantly.

[@hectormonasterios1417]

Maybe a lot of people tried to imitate Vedder's singing, but that doesn't deny the fact that Eddie Vedder is one of the best rock singers that has ever lived

[@261290]

New Order totally copied Joy Division, they even almost got the same members!

[@jairomartinez-ortiz2553]

The most fucked up part is that New Order got famous for it, but at least they kind of changed their sound a lit bit.

[@leonpaulsson7015]

I might be dumb and don’t get that this is a joke but please tell me that it is

[@PiLLbOt100]

New order was once asked, in an interview, who the laziest member of the band was, and Peter Hook answered, deadpan, " Ian Curtis, he hasn't done anything in years." Edit to correct spelling

[@Greedyselfish97]

"It's Not The Side Effects of The Cocaine, I'm Thinking That It Must Be Love" is a David Bowie lyric.

[@blendernoob64]

I LOVE Entombedcore. Nails’ Unsilent Death is Is This It by The Strokes levels of perfect music. Perfect length, perfect production, perfect performances, perfect Hm2 guitar tone. Black Breath, Trap Them, Harms Way, END, Left Behind, Skincarver, all of these bands rule. I even got my own HM2 pedal just to play these songs and worship Dismember.

[@jakeybball]

Unsilent Death and Isolation are honestly the best HM2 tones I’ve ever heard. Just the most flawless tone for heavy music.

[@miguelangelmiranda8460]

That guitar tone is simply amazing, only thing I don't like that much is the need for the riffs being relatively simple due to the most technical ones sounding mezzy with that distortion

[@burnilein]

Fantastic video! As Misery Signals is my favorite band in the world I was listening tight to you comparing them to others, hoping you lead me to similar bands, counterparts have been known. Keep it up!

[@dudleyhamby2029]

I FU"KIN LOVE THE SKARHEAD SHIRT!!!! Love your videos my friend!!!! Makes my day after a hard day of picking up garbage for 12 hours. Thank you for helping me keep my sanity bro.

[@mirandacristoforo8534]

he really said "small pp energy" 😂😂😂😂

[@ryanahr2267]

Definitely caught me off guard and gave me a good laugh

[@leser1music]

He's not wrong though

[@brucetransjenner7111]

@@leser1music how is joy division small pp energy?

[@kamrynrist6049]

He's wrong but at least he was honest lol

[@travisvick792]

I have to agree, and joy division kinda sucks

[@IOxyrinchus]

Sad Boi is the best thing that ever happened to pop punk, change my mind

[@LithiumAndDietSoda]

Sadboi delivered pop punk from neonpop evil.

[@IOxyrinchus]

@DansWarped likewise, I got sick of classic pop punk and how unrelatable it became. The Story So Far changed the way I viewed pop punk, with heavier riffs and emotional lyrics etc. To this day they’re one of my favourite bands and what reignited my love for the genre

[@IOxyrinchus]

@DansWarped lol thanks, nature is awesome 👏

[@DaveRichardsonFitness]

Did anyone else get super into a band, because they watched a video of Finn making fun of them? LOL It's happened to me. I won't specify which band tho

[@powerviolentnightmare5026]

Must be his secret agenda

[@dead_beatbunny]

Brokencyde?

[@mylastchannelgotdeleted6213]

Well it can’t be limp bizkit because he simps for Fred lmao

[@LOU-oo9zx]

I discovered snapcase and newer bands like vein and knocked loose because of him

[@CeeJayThe13th]

I kinda fell in lesbians with Ghostemane thanks to Finn.

[@limeeyed]

Great vid. Love this series

[@donniedixon7412]

I love this video haha. I laughed so hard at most of it, definitely make more of these!

[@johnpower29]

Don't the long song titles come from The Smiths and Morrissey?🤔

[@mylastchannelgotdeleted6213]

Yes

[@powerviolentnightmare5026]

We don't like that name here

[@nielsB_FPV]

true

[@davidrich27]

@@powerviolentnightmare5026 It is funny how he seems to have a bit of an axe to grind with college/indie/art rock.

[@ConvincingPeople]

¿Porque no los dos?

[@nickudeschini4812]

Bringing it full circle, Disfear is full of members of At the Gates and Entombed

[@kellanpoole1040]

I’m not sure if it’s good or bad that growing up on my parents’ pearl jam records/cds has desensitised me to yarling

[@simonnicholls5005]

Another great video.... Though I would argue the "I hate my hometown" trend started waaaaaaay before the ATDR song 😜 For the next episode I vote Strung Out and A Wilhelm Scream as two most ripped-off artist's. Like Meshugga both bands aren't necessarily commercially successful but pretty much every Punk band formed post 2004 til now sounds like a combination of Strung Out and Wilhelm Scream. As metalcore broke the mainstream the metallic tech-punk sound those two bands co opted was what the Punk scene gravitated towards. Just like how every 90s punk band sounded like NOFX

[@numusick5251]

Damn, look at you sampling mimi barks. Good shit, shes killing it rn!

[@MrMkelliher]

Doom metal can be seen as a genre based on the principle that heavy metal, a genre based on copying Black Sabbath, isn't copying Black Sabbath enough.

[@jackmiller3390]

I actually hear a lot of the “entombedcore” thing in 90’s hardcore. Like Next Step Up’s album “Fall From Grace” has practically identical guitar tones And spot on with the Discharge bit, I can’t tell you how many bands I love that sound just like them. Another band I think gets copied a lot there is GBH

[@jacobbaker141]

“The Downfall of Us All” preceded “All Signs Point to Lauderdale” with a similar concept and I think is really THE song that launched their career. A few of ADTRs song make this same point.

[@edsheeran1243]

You don't think it was the plot to bomb the panhandle?

[@ryanls2330]

@@edsheeran1243 Plot was def the one that gave them that traction and more exposure, but Downfall was the one that gave them the mainstream success.

[@joeplaysdrums89]

@@edsheeran1243 Their friends come first. That's the bottom line.

[@kage6613]

I feel like it was always a trend in pop punk, just became a tumblr meme so all the tumblrcore tr00 pop punk bands leaned into it.

[@CardboardJoJo]

Great content as always. Please please do an episode on Crust / Anarcho Punk. I feel like there's so much to discuss and you could do it justice.

[@Buzz_15900]

Let's make K-Beat a THING! Great video as always Finn, big ups from South Africa!

[@marcogonzalez4286]

I think Type o negative were the first band to have Long titles in their songs like for example: "Unsuccesfully Copying with the natural beauty of infifelity"

[@KaTkA6]

Bands have had long song titles forever, The Orb put out "A Huge Ever Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules from the Centre of the Ultraworld" in 1989. It's more about where did the scene bands get that trend from and I doubt it came from TON (one of my favorite bands, btw).

[@julesdevall2176]

Frank zappa had long titles in the 70s

[@henrygvidonas9573]

Ever heard a little ditty called "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds" by The Beatles? Not long enough? They also had "Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey". How about a little bit of Pink Floyd with "Several Species Of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In A Cave And Grooving With A Pict" from 1969? "Pict" is short for "Australopithecus" because they didn't want to take up too much space on the "Ummagumma" LP cover... Yeah... I'm afraid Typ O weren't the first band to do _anything_ , as great as they were.

[@beyondtheradio]

In the words of Devin Townsend, "We all rip off Meshuggah!"

[@adrianamorphous]

Ghostemane isn't shy about his memphis rap roots

[@markattenborough9107]

The big thing i love about Ghostemane (besides his music) is that he is not afraid to rep his favorite artists in both rap and metal. As well as completely calling out bands/artists he doesn't like, pretty ballsy for such a new guy with such a young fanbase.

[@Sc00byg00ky]

@@markattenborough9107 what bands and artists has he called out?

[@HeyItsJK]

Finalllyy, someone brings up 3 6 mafia being copied. It's crazy that it took 20 years to catch on to the public

[@cobraspottedwolf8791]

I seriously have to pause the video constantly to look this shit up!! Love it

[@sammadden5540]

Don Cab had long weird names for their songs and they had a foot in the hardcore scene (earlier in their career anyway)

[@TheWoundedFoot]

Was also gonna mention them. They've also been around since the early 90's (the overly long song titles mostly started appearing in the late 90's).

[@TeslaChad]

"Then I get this super fat tone" *plays the most saturated and indistinguishable guitar tone"

[@xangrycatmanx5104]

that's the perfect way to describe the Swedish Chainsaw

[@henrygvidonas9573]

"Yuh musta turna all ze controls on ze Boss Hoa Emm Tvoah to ze max, ya?" __

[@dougchampion8084]

Haha I know, he's like "zen I gets the angelic soundz..." **AM radio static**

[@dschesters]

"It's not the side effects of the cocaine, i'm thinking that it must be love" is a David Bowie lyric, Station to Station!

[@gabaghoul6759]

Joy Division without mentioning Interpol? Fantastic video anyway as always.