WHY DID ROCK STOP BEING FUN?? (MGK was right!)

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

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[@benmcnamara5572]

yo bro when them shirts coming in Pink yo?

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Nah i didn’t forget anything, my videos aren’t intended to be lists of bands, you know?

[@powerviolentnightmare5026]

We all try to forget Incubus.

[@fanis6dd]

Yo where can I get that shirt you're wearing fam?

[@njsteere]

@@ThePunkRockMBA you seriously need to do one video where you mention EVERY band that is an example of x. The entire video grinds to a halt, and you just name bands for 20 mins. Caption on screen the whole time: you people made me do this.

[@scottvaldes70]

Not only does rock need to be fun again, it also needs to become more rebellious and controversial again.

[@dylankn8129]

That’s true in a way, However 90% of GenZ’s need fun stuffs..

[@meiscydimaano4871]

In the world of entertainment R&R is the closest thing to reality...In today*s digital world oeople choose "blue pills" over " red pills"..I miss those days where musicians are brutally frank and raw..

[@mathias4119]

it can't be forced though

[@Dingle294]

The only 2 controversial figures in rock today (and I say this with extreme sadness) are Ted Nugent and Trapt.

[@queentantrumofficial]

YES. The rebellion is gone.

[@DouglasComical]

“Unless you want to call Maroon 5 or Imagine Dragons rock...” I, in fact, do not.

[@richardcoates4751]

The kid who did this critique sounds like a tween, like he's got some growing up to do. Most people from this generation would rather listen to the authentic music from years ago than the crap they shove down our throats now.

[@DouglasComical]

@@richardcoates4751 Who, Finn McKenty?

[@michaelking6681]

3 We finished putting Imagine Dragons show away and we're walking past them and they showed our crew no attention . What a bunch of asshats They could of said thanks guys .

[@datguy9408]

Lol imagine those bands being rock music.

[@brownboy743]

Or called coldplay rock

[@PabloCruise91]

I think part of rock’s decline is the elitist and unwelcoming attitude of fans.

[@jct3439]

STG!!

[@alexylophony]

exactly

[@lukejezza3088]

Anthony Fantano lol

[@Kingylfc123]

The punk and metal scenes are rife with gatekeepers and elitists its bull. Shit...punk fans even call John Lyndon a fake punk even though he defined what punks were and was born in the roots of it all, smh. Punks about doing it for yourself and staying true and being honest to you and what your believe yet so many are called fakes for having literally their own views

[@lorenzoriley3567]

Zendaya appeared on Tik Tok wearing a Metallica shirt and some people called her out as probably not even knowing any of their songs. The knee jerk reaction was crazy. Especially when it turns out she can actually play several Metallica songs on guitar.

[@nickgilmer8788]

"Can you imagine Axl Rose getting butthurt over these comments?" Yes. I can absolute see that lol

[@Kietastrophe]

I'm a huge Gn'R fan, and even I thought this, absolutely- have you seen anything about Axl? He's often, the worst

[@daveshank1921]

You think Axle cares? If you were a GNR fan you wouldn't assume things about Rose. He was the best frontman in rock since Jim Morrison.

[@nickgilmer8788]

@@daveshank1921 I’m a massive Slash and GNR fan. But sometimes you gotta dish out the tough love 😂 he’s gotten way better since the mid 2000’s tho

[@chuckhoyle1211]

That may be a poor example. Axl Rose gets butthurt over everything. I could see him throwing a chair through a window if his toaster burnt his toast.

[@luke_cohen1]

Key Difference: Axl Rose knows how to be a marketable frontman and entertain people. He was the MGK of his time. A total douchebag that constantly beefed with others (Spin magazine anyone?) but was so incredibly entertaining that he was able to build a massive fanbase despite the antics. He wore the crazy, uncomfortable shoes MGK was advocating for. Not the McDonald's Employee New Balances rock bands wear today.

[@AnabolicAliens]

Wow. I never thought about rock losing it’s hype due to lack of fun. I couldn’t agree more. Awesome video man!

[@luiscarloslezcano2275]

Hey anabolic aliens! big fan. Keep the good work!

[@joshbailey7576]

holy shit man, you're here! Love your channel man!

[@brandall101]

I think he's off here - it's not 'fun', it's exciting, it's depth. The Beatles were fun, then they got dark when they were most vital. The Rolling Stones were dark. There was nothing really 'fun' about The Doors, Pink Floyd, Zep, Hendrix, or really most any band from the 60s that was relevant. GnR became huge because they were a scary counterpoint to all the 'fun' throwaway strip bands. There was nothing fun about the Seattle bands. Even Sublime, being such a party band, had a really dark undercurrent to them. The Strokes were the last true rock band, tapping us back into something great when everything had gone nu-metal... they were certainly exciting and not fun, but they fizzled out. The only 'fun' rock band that had any real cultural impact is Van Halen because they were so freakin' amazing. MGK seems like a cool dude, but his attempt at rock is lame and boring... it's like even more watered down Blink, which is quite the accomplishment.

[@andymccoy8370]

wow i used to watch your videos in like fifth grade this is weird

[@luke_cohen1]

@@brandall101 People don't want to listen to Greta Van Fleet though and that's what this video is railing against. We've been hung up on this idea that Dad Rock (Rock version of 90's Boom Bap like Nas) is the only true version of the genre when there's a lot more fun artists to listen to. I'd much rather listen to GNR, Metallica, Blink, early Linkin Park, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Temple of the Dog, Queen, and Pearl Jam than some boring, depressing crap like the Eagles or Zeppelin (great bands but I wouldn't put them on at a party).

[@deanviolette]

I blame U2 and that time they forced us all to have their album on itunes

[@GantzGeo]

Bro I fucking remember that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@danielbell4007]

Hahahahaa for real. That’s the only U2 album I own, and the only reason I have it was that it was forced upon me. Lll

[@wessmithp5560]

Lol, that was weird

[@smolaether]

I remember checking my iPhone and seeing a U2 album somehow, when I never even listen to them.

[@reclutamientomonterrey2573]

hahaha good one !!!!!!!!!!!!

[@tomrogue13]

Finn says "people like fun" so many times, it's almost like he's trying to tell us something. Idk though

[@yudhst]

He really knows his audience, and how much they (we) suffer in live

[@pequals34]

Repetition legitimizes lmao

[@Kyle4OH8]

I hate fun I just Wana stand with my arms crossed

[@fluffyy-8341]

I know it’s weird idk what he’s on about

[@afrodeusX]

Repetition legitimizes

[@jarrodblackwell]

MGK and Post Malone have both showed us in the past year that they have tremendous passion and skill for punk rock music, but they both made their fortunes making the music that was popular. Now that they have money in the bank and a name for themselves, maybe they will help contribute to the rock revival.

[@dylankn8129]

If Post Malone release a punk, rock, or grunge album, there will definitely be a change in the music industry..

[@miguelpereira9859]

@@dylankn8129 Or it will kill his career

[@jdeez69]

Sell outs.....

[@janusnightshade9848]

@@jdeez69 hey with a big name and money they can introduce people to punk rock and can have more control of their albums than small rock bands trying to work with a small label that can’t do much. Selling out and securing your income while making a name for yourself before making none mainstream music is a good idea.

[@Nexushuggah]

Posers.

[@Originalexbrou]

I will simplify it: Rockstars stopped being people you would look up to. They stopped being the pinnacle of the cool guy. Long story short: Rockstars stopped being rockstars

[@Coreisus]

They're all stoic, wannabe professional businessmen. It's no longer about jumping around n partying.

[@GaughanGirl77]

Rockstars were never people to look up to they were Rockstars f'ing willing & wanting groupies and doing lots of drugs.

[@Originalexbrou]

@@GaughanGirl77 well... I understand what you're saying, but Rockstars do put a lot of work and commitment in their art, and they are people that believe in themselves. Drugs were a pretty negative aspect, but they were nonetheless very successful and popular people in general

[@GaughanGirl77]

@@Originalexbrou my point is that being popular says nothing about whether or not you should be looked up to.

[@GaughanGirl77]

@@Originalexbrou also the perception of drugs being 100% bad is pretty outdated imo... what type of drug? What side effects? How often? Is this a natural plant or a pharmaceutical concoction? Etc?

[@nimhard]

I unironically love Metro Station's Shake Shake it. What a fun song

[@oonah5853]

me too haha

[@static05]

oh yeah its a banger and its some nostalgia too

[@stiefjac5082]

lmao are you betwen 27 and 30 years old? if that's the case, makes sense. it was when pop punk was invading alot of things, and ther were a few "pop" songs with punk influences, but leaned hard on the pop" Face Down by Red Jumpsuit Apparatus was big around that time if i can remember correctly and that had screaming, radio version did not lmao

[@davidkay1948]

Fun if don't like rock or metal

[@Crazytomm]

@@stiefjac5082 yes I am

[@MrBernardo3755]

Difference between making art and making entertainment. In entertainment you go after people, in art people go after you.

[@9496TULL]

Grunge was the start of not being fun, everything went dark and depressing. It never really fully recovered. But there is a lot of fun rock out there. You just got to dig a little harder to find it

[@toughfff712]

I think that is why Ska and Skate Punk stood out at that time. It was funner, those bands where having festivals.

[@brfts2001]

These aren't exactly fun times so grunge has been in my playlist a lot more again.

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

@@brfts2001 True!

[@jackiegleeson7852]

Melvins are punk and they have some fun songs.

[@vee_da_reaper2350]

@@brfts2001 because your so negative suck it up and crush the bad energy brotha

[@SPMinerva]

The rock's easy, but the roll is another thing... Keith Richards

[@Pandamonium626]

Rock then: "society is fucked but let's have fun anyway!" Rock now: "society is fucked and I'm gonna cry about it non-stop while doing nothing to make anything better!"

[@hleb4908]

@W 9797 Literally nobody says that, stfu

[@lilac.mascara]

@W 9797 what even?

[@caffeinatedinsanity2324]

This world need a new Vandals band featuring people doing jackass stuff in their music videos lol

[@tombstonejones9581]

@@hleb4908 Sam Phillips' biography proves this unequivocally. Ike Turner and Chuck Berry started rock and roll, white people have just been ripping it off for the past 65 years.

[@hleb4908]

@@tombstonejones9581 Nobody is denying that rock has it's roots in music that was created by black artists you absolute imbeciles, just because some of you think that some genres of music should be exclusive to a certaint race doesn't meant that white people making rock music is "stealing" or "ripping off"

[@michaeltrapson]

Rock will be fun again when Tom Delonge wants it to be fun again

[@AlexStanilla]

nobody asked Tom to find the aliens, he's doin it for us.

[@Yageewiraya]

Agreee!!

[@chasemarkmckenzie622]

@@AlexStanilla Those aliens that abduct cows must be gamblers. They're always raising the steaks.

[@BarryBlock81108]

@@chasemarkmckenzie622 I, goddamnit that’s good.

[@michaelormerod1898]

Bahaha

[@Kotsoros37]

I agree, it's that fun factor, but also that energy in general. You can talk serious stuff and be dark while still brining the energy that generates similar feelings that fun does

[@sawbonesquad4876]

Actually, i can imagine 80s Axl Rose feuding with MGK tbh.

[@vampirewilde]

Totally, he's not a great example

[@616cinder]

I can imagine 80s Axl Rose feuding with most people tbh

[@lestatsebastian666]

WELL... THANKS TO THE LAME ASS MGK, IM GOIN HOME *throws mic on the ground. *crazy feedback noises

[@616cinder]

@@lestatsebastian666 HAHA nailed it

[@lestatsebastian666]

@@616cinder and then would have “MGK sucks” t shirt on a year later while getting sued by MGK for trying to kick his ass right after a huge random rant about MGK on stage, just cuz Axl got tired of singing. LOOL I went a lil far there didn’t I?

[@abbylauren6911]

I actually feel like the Japanese figured it out before the west Rock over there is lit as fuck

[@kuramochiyouichi1448]

J-Rock is technical as fuck yet fun as hell. J-rock always evergreen

[@faithless1385]

Hehe and they took it to America again OOR

[@Tamago-xe4eb]

They did I've been listening to some j-rock over the week and they figured it out perfectly.

[@metalhead4667]

right? babymetal is a great band

[@zackakai5173]

I mean I've seen FLCL enough times to know that pretty much every Pillows song is catchy as hell.

[@galacticjuicedaddy1305]

I used to be so pretentious thinking "popular music bad my music good" then i got over myself and enjoyed some charts music and life is a lot more enjoyable.

[@adeptdamage3669]

What chart music?

[@mikevalones9977]

Lol this was my exact thought process. Eventually, everyone will get over themselves all thats left to do is wait.

[@pickles224]

Me too. I was a huge music snob until I got into my 20s and realized that sometimes popular music isn’t all that bad.

[@Michael-ll6px]

I’ve been there too.

[@pickles224]

@Michael Sprague See, I’m a musician (I’ve been playing guitar and bass for 12 years) and my thought process was different. When I was 16, I found punk rock and ska music and loved it and still do. It was really frustrating for me to have this music I thought was cool and amazing be ignored by the mainstream. I liked it. I wanted everyone else to like it too. And I started resenting top 40 radio music for that reason.

[@alexanderfleming4655]

Rock is still fun - what has happened is that the industry has changed how music is delivered. With music now being streamed, listeners can choose to listen to specific songs instead of whole albums. Artists are more likely to release singles on a steady flow so they can remain relevant in the social media space. Rock doesn’t focus on Instagram posts. Also - a key element of rock is the underground roots with the bars and pubs that harvest new bands coming through, a lot of these have closed down and also the record company’s that sign them. It is easier now to stay at homemix a track on my laptop and release online, than finding a group of dedicated likeminded musicians in my local area to practice together and developing original content overtime. Most of the successful bands in the 90s were playing for 5+ years before they had success. It’s all about the now and relevant for the follows and the ‘likes’. The generation of instant success.

[@ZooDSSfirst]

Wisdom

[@chasemarkmckenzie622]

Roses are red, violet's are blue When I listen to rock music. My neighbours do too.

[@pete-bf3op]

BAhahaaa!!!!!!!

[@eugenefrancisco7281]

Internet Killed The Rockstar.

[@jamesreidngbicol]

Computer quantized shit music, and ofc the streaming platform

[@chadmorris6619]

@Lord Balthos Ad Inferni Yup

[@caleba5040]

Love that reference

[@G4By_okokokok_lalalalala]

Mod Sun's album & song

[@Niedergauss]

Internet Killed The Rapstar as well.

[@stalepork1309]

I bet a new “grunge” scene is coming. It feels like the 80’s with all of the feel good music.

[@stnimrod157]

I mean the new MGK album Tickets To My Downfall kinda gave pop punk more recognition so maybe

[@lukejezza3088]

not grunge, something new, maybe with elements of it though

[@Stufy76]

Thats the problem with rock music. We should do new shit instead of trying to be a new Nirvana or metallica

[@lolalydon]

There does seem to be a rippling in the energy lately. Maybe something will bubble up!

[@gaboxd4407]

Rock will come back when it evolves into something dirtier edgier darker and more extreme given the dark times were living in just my two cents

[@spencerisrad666]

It's crazy growing up in a music scene and then one day you look around and everything is completely different. One day metalcore and post-hardcore is cool and the next everyone loves screamy rap music. I feel like I completely missed the transition.

[@brfts2001]

Rap and Country will continue to always suck for me.

[@SkinnyEatWorld95]

I grew up in the pop punk emo and scene years, so yeah man it truly is weird seeing everything change into plain what the fuck is this type of style 😂

[@netizenrealness]

"rock these days feels more like hanging in a a reddit thread than going to a party"👌🏾

[@trippybruh1592]

Shots fired at r/metalcore lol

[@shineayandrews1869]

I can smell the redditors approaching.

[@aixide]

That's why you gotta avoid anything that isn't r/_____jerk

[@kikimincksroten4828]

MGK's new music makes me feel like my old middle school self and I'm living for it. lmao

[@datguy9408]

Lol foreal, it’s like that type of music was his actual calling.

[@0fficialnyx0_0]

@@datguy9408 well think about it what if that was his plan all along build a audience from rap and hip hop since that’s what was big when he started and still is and then switch to pop punk sure some of the fans will leave the fan base but the majority of people will stay and then you can also gain new fans from the pop punk side. it’s kinda a win win for both party’s

[@chrisglazener3613]

Dude. I'm 47 and listen to Tickets to My Downfall daily. My 18 year old daughter gave it to me for Christmas. I'm not a fan of his rap but as a fan of pop punk I think this cd is fire. Personally I like fun music and am not ashamed to say it.

[@0fficialnyx0_0]

@@chrisglazener3613 same his pop punk is more up my alley

[@gunxobeats3945]

i swear i feel the same

[@ThisWildLife]

“At this point in my life I would rather lick the stage sweat off of Kid Rocks back than go to some EDM Festival”. I can’t wait for your book hahahahaha

[@viterijuan]

yeah... I am not really sure about that.

[@hardly8399]

wow TWL notice this vid

[@bangalgar]

Haters

[@alvarojm750]

Jesus Christ dude. That’s a fucking statement!

[@chinyoka2387]

Come on. He would like it. (sorry Finn xD)

[@TabooRevolution13]

As a rock star who never got famous I think there is something to be said for both having a fun band as well as a serious band. I liked both!

[@TheInkTank]

Great video. Thought this for years but you laid it out so clearly. Maybe one day we'll see rock played at parties again.

[@laurentiulobont4690]

Damn this took me by surprise! Keep up the good work and rock on!

[@masterklaw4527]

Whoa, never thought I'd see you here. But I guess I'm not surprised cause you guys rock!!

[@joehelmig3512]

I agree

[@LongLivePoun00]

@The Ink Tank One day soon hopefully

[@barneyhooky294]

Money and Another Brick in The Wall Part 2 by Pink Floyd is a pretty fun classic rock song to listen and dance to despite the lyrics being political. Rolling stones had pretty fun and funky danceable songs too in their sticky fingers and exiles on main street album. I like to call it classic party rock music lol

[@dulifuli00]

Remember back in the days where Every Single movie featuring characters between the age of 16-30 had lots of rock songs on their OST for party scenes, chase scenes or fight scenes? Yup, those days are gone and that says a lot about the state of the genre in the present :( Yet, Boom by P. O. D is still the best party music ever

[@RickyFicarelli]

This was a brilliant rundown my brother. Really enjoyed hearing your take on all this 🤘

[@illxs]

Man I miss Van Halen... Party music and incredible musicianship in one package!

[@dynatwenty]

yes me too, emo grunge is THE WORST genre of all time

[@Junkhead_lol]

I just miss Grundge. Alice In Chains, Nirvana, Pearl Jam. When people really bumped that shit.

[@dtklamf7457]

HA! HA! HA! All the bands that took the fuck out Rock music. Not AIC...they were glam at one point and were all about having a good time.

[@jakewynne3886]

Pearl Jam’s the radio friendly band that’s okay, Nirvanas the poppy one that’s sad but you don’t realize it until later, soundgardens got the singer you focus on the whole time for whatever reason. (Few good riffs) stone temple pilots makes you want to smoke a cigarette and do karaoke has a vintage feel to it. and Alice In Chains were the “heavy” ones.

[@ArtHazard]

I miss grunge more.

[@sammy13ificationable]

I used to street race to Audioslave and Nazareth in high school, I still blare the HELL out of old rage and soundgarden when I go to the store

[@lolalydon]

Alice in Chains ftw 🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@bakstabbath]

Social media has ruined the good times. Everyone is trapped in their own insecure and mean-spirited bubbles to let loose and party.

[@nightgates3975]

i agreeeee its so true !!!

[@spacecase7504]

well said

[@dtklamf7457]

You're not wrong, but this started before social media & even the internet was a thing.

[@littletalkslove9121]

Yes exactly!!

[@biosyn-ab4261]

Im offended by that comment... Im canceling you on my twitter and all my fans are going to cancel you as well.... JeRk!11

[@alvatrous]

Im down for the “make rock fun again” movement

[@joshmastiff1128]

Count me in!

[@imelda512atx]

Let's do it!

[@joshmastiff1128]

@Zachary Kariotis we'll try to make is as fun as we can without compromising the quality!

[@dannythejester]

Hell yeah!

[@cheesesteak983]

YES

[@niteynite]

"Because you are WAY to cool to enjoy anything" This guy gets it 😂

[@blackdragon6]

It's funny, cause hip-hop's problem was the exact opposite. They were so concerned with crossing over that the genre arguably stopped being hip-hop. To be fair the tighter restrictions on sampling didn't help either.

[@asciicatface]

now this would make for an interesting video

[@blackdragon6]

@@asciicatface indeed

[@Tishauna7]

@@asciicatface it would make a great companion piece video imo. The problem with hip-hop in the 2000's was a combination of censorship by media outlets, and greed on the part of the hip-hop industry. By the mid 00's almost all mainstream rap music was club anthems. And it never recovered imo.

[@sonikku956]

@@Tishauna7 Soundcloud rap, especially the aggressive varieties like punk rap and trap metal, tend to flip the club friendly vibe on its head by craving mosh pits and underground shows in (of all places) Eastern Europe, but it's definitely not mainstream yet. Eventually, there will be a rap equivalent to Linkin Park that popularizes screaming to the masses.

[@ericsmith8129]

Tighter restrictions on sampling is a good thing considering sampling without permission is just theft.

[@anthonyshanaman5637]

Never really liked mgk as a rapper but as a punk rocker he is legit.

[@meep9231]

Yup

[@Ambientgram]

fakest dude out there

[@jim-df7sx]

@@Ambientgram just like every single rockstar on earth

[@borderlinebae4010]

It's like he finally found his musical home.

[@alllittlethingzz]

Same but I feel like he did it cause he got own

[@jefgirdler7232]

in the wise words of Adam Neely, "Repetition legitimizes" - but honestly you didn't NEED to repeat that "people like fun" because honestly that's EXACTLY the point. Fantastic outlook on the state of rock as usual. I didn't get into rock as a teen to vent my frustrations with a system of conformity. At least not on the surface. I got into it because it was loud, rambunctious, creative, and dammit, it was fun. I miss that side of rock music.

[@ianleggett8429]

Repetition legitimizes

[@GlaciusTS]

I’d happily welcome back fun rock. We need more of it. But these days I’ve grown to appreciate some downtime as well. Was at a get together with some friends awhile back, I hadn’t been out for awhile and it was loud at first, but then someone came in and we got chatting about Deftones and he put some of it on and the room got more chill. I like the fun, but in moderation. I can appreciate music that sets a mood just as well as I can appreciate something a little more uplifting and exciting and playful. I’ve been pretty deaf to this passed decade though, sadly. I’ve been too busy discovering older songs I hadn’t heard before and just being a shut in for most of my 20s. Maybe I should make the 2020s my 20s, now that I’m in my mid 30s, lol.

[@jcav9410]

All of the “rock and roll needs to be fun again” can be traced back to the explosion of Beatlemania. The four from Liverpool’s craft and presence attended to the emotional needs of hormonal baby boomers who grew in what was a war-razed continent/baby boomers who saw a young President of the United States of America whom they sort of identified get shot in the head on live television. I feel that around 2023-2025 when the pandemic is receding catchy 2000s style pop rock will take the world by storm again. By the way, YOU CAN write fun sounding songs about sad and dark subject matter if you know how to.

[@swinelias]

A big example would be "Semi-charmed life" by Third Eye Blind.

[@theSemiChrist]

Shit, the Beautiful People was a fun song. Once Manson stopped having fun, his music started to suck.

[@jackhammer5912]

Hot take: music is no longer counter cultural, memes are the counter culture now.

[@KirbyMArt]

soo true. I accept this explanation

[@bradcoetzee]

damn, nailed it.

[@tombstonejones9581]

Nah, memes are mainstream culture. besides the surrealist memes, they're part of our daily lives.

[@GlizzyGoblin757]

incelcore is counter culture

[@andyspendlove1019]

That's why meme "rock bands" like Death Grips and 100 gecs are the closest thing we've had to rock stars in rock in 10 years

[@LouisLinggandtheBombs]

"If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution.” ― Emma Goldman. That's so true. Rebellious music still need to be fun to hit home!

[@able7732]

Holy shit, the “military wife demographic”, I’ve never actually linked them to that but it’s totally true! Every single one of them is like that!

[@p.d.l7023]

Indeed

[@ahhwe-any7434]

If there's categories for listeners, idk which one i fall under. I shouldn't have even made that comment. All I got out of this is somewhere in the r&b & hip hop community: I listen to 👈 when I clean. Me: 🤔 word? I just half ass'ed listened to a rock documentary thing, to half ass clean. I think I mainly stick to the oldies for that. Lol @ ppls music selection for wedding receptions and what not tho

[@becknorland587]

What I'll never understand is why rock fans got MAD when MGK went on his rant about comfy shoes and rockstars. I think there are a lot of rock fans are secretly hoping that rock stays out of the mainstream because they want to keep this "I'm not like other girls" mentality. It's cringy as hell and it makes you wonder if a lot of rock fans actually like the genre or if they SAY they like it because it makes them seem "different."

[@brendanjames2687]

Thank you for putting my thoughts in to text. Nerds ruined rock. Rock was best when the musicians were anarchists, and now they’re a hoard of angry redditors who need to shower more.

[@becknorland587]

@@brendanjames2687 dude for REAL!

[@nubinshred]

I would say it is more an addiction than wanting to be different. A great, tasty riff and a well crafted solo is not being outshined by thoughts of "ooh, this is different, and I am so cool". Most people who appreciate that, are being completely consumed by the music and really in a different place, just like a good high. Keeping rock out of mainstream is keeping it fresh and not part of a machine. Most non rock listeners can actually find the music too dark, and poo poo at the sound of cymbals and electric guitars. The non listeners are the prudes, trying to play a psychological trick by basically saying it's not what they want, it's not like welcome to the jungle and sweet child o mine (great songs), well some rock and metal will become very popular, but people can't handle loud music these days unless all the dBs are in the bass and sub bass region, which makes their butts jiggle. A lot of people don't even wanna listen to old rock and metal, so that argument fails that it's the musician's fault or the fans' fault entirely. Most people don't have the taste for it

[@nubinshred]

@ayham kimo EDM is very very bass oriented, which aligns pretty well with what I wrote above. Also, I do like electronic music, so it was not a diss really. There are pretentious gatekeepers sure, but they are kind of a small % if you ask me, and everyone thinks they’re douchey and self absorbed. I honestly feel most casual listeners (people who are not obsessed with music and never were yet consume it frequently, to set a vibe) don’t have the taste for modern rock/metal. Imo music today shouldn’t try to copy the 80s music metaculture as that would be unoriginal and mostly a parody. I’m sorry if someone acted as a gatekeeper to you, screw that attitude. Keeping it fresh means, it is not beholden to follow a pattern, again the originality argument. Intra genre there are a lot of unintentional influencing of musical styles anyway, but I’m glad whatever musicians are putting out, it’s more of an expression of what they want rather than a record label telling them to make things more upbeat, when it’s not the band’s vibe

[@nubinshred]

Let’s agree to disagree. I see your point, my main intent is to establish a more realistic estimate of the gatekeeper population. As I said, there’s not a lot of gatekeepers, I’ve only run into some and most of them actually gate themselves in too, and don’t explore much of music outside of their comfort zones

[@sushibu]

I think the massive gatekeeping really didn't help either. I enjoy so much of the music you spoke about (and did growing up) but I don't obsess over names, artists, what guitar they used on that one set they had in Denver, CO in 2009 and so people get on me sometimes about not "really liking the music". That stuff has never made sense to me. I don't even know the name of the last movie I saw or enjoyed and I can still tell you I enjoyed it! If someone is wearing a band shirt, they don't have to list off their top 20 fav songs and name the full legal names of all the band members to wear it. FFS

[@josephshepherd6968]

Yeah I feel you, in 2000 when I was 14 I went to small (200pl) Sick of it all gig in Liverpool (UK). Me and my mate went straight from school, so I decided to wear my Fear Factory (favourite band) t-shirt under my school uniform. The whole day at school people were saying you're gonna get beat up, you're gonne get shanked. But at the gig all the Old crust punks were so nice to me and we all got up on stage and sang along. No gatekeeping there. Good times. I hate being old.

[@fenestrapain]

YUUUUUP

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

Yeah that is the worst thing that can ever happening in music

[@simonriley7049]

Gatekeeping is obsessing over names and artists NOT over what guitar they had. I'm a musician and I am legitimately interested in what drumsets, guitars, and amps they all had. For crying out loud, I had to look some of this stuff up for my music class. Don't confuse talent and gatekeeping. When he mentioned guitar nerding, he meant nerds like me are what's left of the scene because rock isn't mainstream anymore. So no, people like me didn't kill it. People stopped going after fun in rock and just started gatekeeping genres and artists to seem edgy. Nerds like me only go after the musical aspect

[@fenestrapain]

@@simonriley7049 I think being accepted for liking what you like and not having to explain yourself is what this is all about tbh. Love geeking out about gear! Having passion for your own interests is awesome. Judging others for not having the same depth of understanding and deeming them a “fake fan” for not having that knowledge contributes to gatekeeping. It sounds like you don’t gatekeep around this-thank you. But I think some people do, and it sucks.

[@megacody1018]

Coming from the UK where grime and pop music is usually what comes on the radio, i've found interestingly one band that is played at every party I've been to: The Arctic Monkeys. The culture shift they caused over here was immense and can still be felt years later as most people aged 16 to 30 will tell you. Not only did they make super catchy tunes that you can dance to but their lyrical content is incredibly relatable for teens coming of age. Whether you like rap or pop or edm most younger people in the UK will get down to 'I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor'. Unfortunately AM spawned thousands of copycat indie/rock bands that have saturated the genre so it's hard to find good new rock for a lot of people.

[@makaila1177]

I would argue that their sound is reminiscent of 60's rock. I feel like everything is recycled, and young people now are like hippies. There's nothing wrong with that (I mean no disrespect), but it shows how the pendulum swings between energies.

[@Dany_lop]

@@paulmcgrath6118 i do distinctly remember their song knock a door run, which has a pretty hendrix feel imo. Its one of my favorites of their earlier stuff. One of the things i enjoy about arctic monkeys is every album has a unique sound too, they kept experimenting with every album.

[@ktownshutdown21]

MGK was always a fun rapper too, so him entering the rock scene was a natural transition for him. But yeah, music in general has been pretty moody for a while; it seems like the turning point was Lorde's "Royals" in 2013; all of the grandiose poppy songs that song was calling out started to fade away, and everyone started chasing that sound, including rock. And it did noooooot benefit that scene at all. So just like how we had to import BTS to get pop to cheer itself up, personally I've been heading overseas to J-Rock to find bands that are ready to throw down.

[@adenhayessr8155]

Why was 2000’s streaky hair and fox bikini top girl so hot

[@IHateMyAccountName]

Cause she wasn't into you in 2007.

[@onebackzach]

311 is basically the taco bell of music. Everybody likes to pretend that they're above it, but we all know that you can't go wrong with a crunch wrap supreme, especially when psychoactive substances are involved.

[@IHateMyAccountName]

Taco bell makes me shit my brains out after.

[@silvashreds4561]

311 is fucking badass

[@vorhese]

I always thought they were a Chalupa

[@suckmydick5245]

As someone from Omaha. Fuck 311

[@bobthebrickbuilder1876]

311 is cool, Taco Bell is trash. I understand your analogy but it's false.

[@capostatus937]

Finn "from a marketing standpoint" McKennty

[@vampirewilde]

This

[@shhjeffreys729]

So punk

[@david-lych-bell]

​@@an_38kitkashyap That's incredibly reductionist and simplistic. Sure, if you want to talk in large platitudes, you can make whatever broad generalization you want. That doesn't change that the content of the video is flawed because it's all based off of a shitty leading question, AKA the title of the video. Finn always gives me Paul Ryan-stupidly-saying-"my favorite band is Rage Against the Machine" vibes due to his insistence that the only way music can be "good" is if it is profitable to media companies. That's the only consistent metric he seems to keep across his entire video catalog, from what I can tell. I could be wrong, but he always seems to pick a position and then try to cherry pick data to support the original statement as opposed to asking a question and then stating what he learned.

[@vampirewilde]

@@david-lych-bell Cherry picking is exactly right. He argues the 90s were darker than the 80s and uses the example of Pulp Fiction (which I wouldn't exactly describe as dark). Well that same year Forrest Gump was also released. It was massive at the box office, won Best Picture and is about as light as movies come. It's worth noting the cultural phenomenon that is Friends debuted on TV in '94 (remember the Rachel haircut?) and dominated for the rest of the decade (alongside Seinfeld for a few years) and the early noughties, a show that's as cheesy as anything the 80s produced. He uses Back to the Future to illustrate how light the 80s are compared to the 90s, but if you were put Pulp Fiction next to Platoon which came out the year after BTTF his argument continues to fall apart. Platoon was undoubtedly a dark film, a smash hit with audiences and unlike BTTF won Best Picture. By cherry picking you could just as easily make the argument the 80s were darker than the 90s.

[@M4RCi92]

@@vampirewilde also Terminator, Blade Runner, The Shining, Scarface. All of them goofy, lighthearted, fun films from the 80s, right?

[@Dragonmoon98]

Seriously, after this pandemic and the madhouse that was the late 2010s, we *NEED* good time songs!

[@nikostheater]

Rock never stopped being fun. Just look at the amazing Japanese bands like Band-Maid or other rock bands mostly in Asia. Rock music moved from Europe and America to Asia.

[@natvrale]

For real, Asia's got some crazy rock bands now

[@skskskpost8852]

@@natvrale One Ok rock and Babymetal also

[@ragged2233]

@@skskskpost8852 Baby metal always makes me wanna dance

[@DanielDova]

THIS! If we look at other countries beyond USA we'll find a lot of rock bands that are good and don't sound 'generic'. Japan is a good example.

[@skskskpost8852]

@@DanielDova Anime culture has a lot to do with this. Rock bands like Asia Kung Fu Generation, FaLiLV and Ling Tosite Sigure (or just TK, in this case) are introduced through anime OST. Dont forget widely recognized bands like One Ok Rock and Babymetal

[@adamtaylor5274]

Finn, all I'm hearing is that you're looking for the return of CHUMBAWUMBA.

[@bassforhire555]

Aren't we all, friend?

[@TheSpecsShow]

Chumbawumba actually started as (and returned to being) an obscure anarcho-punk collective. Check out Todd in the Shadows' 'One Hit Wonderland' video about Tubthumping to hear all about it

[@JoeCaviston]

Finn's just out here pissing the night away.

[@brianbehm6212]

Fun is part of it, but being moved emotionally can also be really powerful and give a song staying power. I got into rock with emo and screamo (later metalcore), and I loved that the music told a story that made me feel something or see a new perspective.

[@Dan77845]

I like how the rock timeline just eventually turned into a bunch of bands that I’ve never heard of.

[@brandihodges20]

Thank you thats definitely what happened..that and once i got into a FB msgr bitch fest bc i didnt wanna let these dudes "SCHOOL" me on the many genres of metal or rock all bc i said "wow......dillinger escape plan didnt sound like this on calculating infinity" and that statement did me in. Ive listened to music all of my life and most of it around the same style but at the drive in was a diamond i found on a nasty Lake Hamilton beach here where i live and they were just atdi. No one else like them period. (Aside from the mars volta and sparta) and then im told my fav band for over a decade (aside from pantera and acid bath durr) is EMO. Maybe i just catergorize the shit that enters my brain where i see fit bc they werent like taking back sunday or further seems forever, deathcab, s.d.r.e. (so yeah i put those bands in the right pocket) anyway.. idc what genre im listening to so long as it makes me feel that feeling yeah.

[@abbyh8403]

I think this is why Matt Cutshell is gaining traction. His emo’s not dead movement is connecting with us thirty somethings that remember when rock music was fun.

[@Doom1461]

Agree it's fun how he pokes fun at the genre but pay homage to it at the same time!

[@berndstromberg1424]

Matt rocks

[@berber8032]

omg! Thank You! I've never heard of him so I looked him up as soon as I read your comment. I WAS LAUGHING SO LOUD AT 4AM! 🤣🤣

[@GradySmith]

Just an exemplary video all the way around. I had to slowly accept the idea that I was approaching music in a way more serious way than the vast majority of people, who are after having fun. The good news is that both sides of music consumers have something to teach each other. Absolutely LOVED this one, Finn!

[@PizzaNife]

My music tastes colliding! Great video yesterday, dude.

[@JonathanCarone]

Did not expect to see Grady in the comments but I’m here for it.

[@HelloMaster50]

Can we get a Finn and Grady Collaboration one day?

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Thanks man, much appreciated!

[@redshift912]

I have never liked what the general population does as well as most people on here . Who cares if rock is popular . I didn’t care when I was listening to sonic youth in the early 90s and I don’t care now

[@DoctorCJDM]

I’m now eagerly waiting for Andrew W.K. to pop off and come save rock music. He bleeds fun. He may not be the hero we want but damn it, he may be the hero we need.

[@andrewr7982]

Let’s get a party started!

[@CodyAlushin]

I believe he will. Check his socials....something's brewing!

[@tonyengardio8413]

And no, rock won’t be saved from a dinosaur he’s from the early 2000’s

[@tonyengardio8413]

He has to be new young and appealing. Look up jxdn

[@s3lfFish]

lets not forget that even if part of music is entertainmnent, it is not the goal of music, as an art, music is its own goal, which is why every so often, real artists will blow off the charts out of nowhere even if they're not fun

[@jasonsuter8324]

Where’s Andrew WK in the conversation. He is literally the party guy.

[@ThisIsDeth]

That dude is a wanker. He played before a band I wanted to see at a festival a few years ago and he got booed off stage for not being able to even play any instruments because he was so wasted. People were throwing shit at him and he was throwing shit back. I was surprised he didn't try and fight everyone.

[@anodynic749]

@@ThisIsDeth Sounds like a party guy rock start to me? A lot of artists have those moments. I think MGK is the biggest try hard 'wanker' around, and there are plenty of stories about him to back that up. Regardless I agree with his comments about rock not being fun anymore. The only difference between muscians like Andrew WK and MGK, is that the latter has a significantly bigger mainstream platform

[@G4By_okokokok_lalalalala]

Busy dating with Kat Dennings

[@navigategoodluck9069]

Ruby rose in her underwear or some guy crying in the bathtub 😭

[@DoNotPassGO]

That's a tough one...

[@616cinder]

Both.

[@kennethkingdon-korab2174]

This is what dual monitors where created for 😁

[@nicholashouse4261]

Finn's Mom Yodeling In The Bathtub

[@casualmime2792]

If i wanted to watch porn I'd search up pornhub...ruby rose isn't that interesting.

[@DjVolumeUp200]

I can imagine Axl Rose getting offended over anything, including a joke about his shoes.

[@mildred714]

because you know him very well and he knows you, huh?

[@baphometstatues]

axl rose would beat someone over a joke like that, bet.

[@emp4845]

Axl could give a fuck less he is a millionaire done you fucks are not 😂

[@DanielSqrd2]

This totally makes sense. My favorite music is Rap, pop, electronic music from late2000s-early2010s. That was when all of those genres we about Partying and having a good time

[@Jasontyo]

I am 37 years old, Prime warped tour age. The Pop Punk and Ska Punk I STILL love had lots of fun. The post-hardcore I got into later in my 20s was not about fun. This video makes a ton of sense

[@robertshmurder6281]

Rancid was always better than anything on warped in the mid 2010's when I went.

[@davidkay1948]

@@robertshmurder6281 agreed all pop punk is kids wishing to b famous like the bands that their dad listened to and failing miserable

[@kelb6073]

Oh man...I went to see the toasters and some other ska bands back in high school. It was so fun. Was dancing with random people and everyone was happy and having a good time.

[@lexyrenae5084]

I was always super stubborn about the whole “rock is dead thing” because I didn’t want the music I love to be swept under the rug or something like that. But honestly watching your videos over the last year or so has educated me a lot on what music is popular and why. It’s also made me expand my music taste a lot! I love the classic stuff, but I am also really excited to see what the future has to offer. The things that MGK, Yungblud, and Mod Sun are doing right now are super dope, and I love seeing them bring punk and that rock and roll attitude back into the mainstream.

[@shaun_snow]

who would have thought that underground rappers will save punk rock one day ^_^

[@dwightbvg]

@@shaun_snow yeah they are far from underground rap. Both Yung Blood and MGK are multi Million dollar artists. And wouldn't say that they are saving it, but at least trying to plug the hole in the ship. All that needs to happen now are more artists trying to help the out

[@shaun_snow]

@@dwightbvg i wasnt really thinking of mgk and yung blood, they are just the tip of the iceberg. rappers like lil peep started this trend and they came pretty much out of nowhere.

[@robingasnier4582]

Yes dude. Just put my thoughts into words for me

[@atreyfall3812]

They are the only ones that are bringing something new to rock, that it's not generic. I think that someday post malone will make a rock album too.

[@thegmanofEAP]

Rock fans do this to themselves, man. My generation spent 20 years insisting that only their music was "deep and complex" as if that is a benchmark for quality. Worst of all? It ain't. Nirvana is amazing, but not all their stuff is some amazing deconstruction of society, and their popularity comes from digestible, memorable melodies.

[@AhmetWinchester]

So true. Oftentimes Listeners of rock music (especially metal) will talk nonstop about the fact, that music nowadays "hAs No SoUL" or "Is SeLlOuT BS" or "BaCK iN my DayS". Oftentimes these coments come from people who never in their entire live had ever touched a piece of recording equipment ...ever. I really miss like bands doing random shit in their music videos, jumping around, playing four chords and calling that " a sick song"

[@pier11francesco]

@@AhmetWinchester I mean they're right anyway, music today is all about money and fame we need real artists with real emotions

[@AhmetWinchester]

​@@pier11francesco "We NeD ReAl ArTiSts! Define a "ReAl ArTiSt" and "aLl aAboUt MoNey!"

[@pier11francesco]

@@AhmetWinchester a real artist is one who try to make music with a meaning behind or just to have fun but plays with talent the same can't be said for most todays mainstream "rappers" or "rockers" like imagine dragons yeah right rock my ass

[@AhmetWinchester]

@@pier11francesco Jesus m8 what is your problem? Like I'm sorry to break it to you but you belong to the camp of the people who destroy music fanbases and communites. Maybe they just wanna have fun and experiment with stuff? if you want to criticize somebody than list valid arguements e.g. lyric analysis, chord progression analysis, artist history and impact, hidden meanings, so and and so forth. I think every artist has at least one or a couple of decent songs, that doesn't mean that the genre is trash nor the artist as a whole. Just like not everyone appreciates Logic (how dare you people) not everyone's going to like the stuff you listen to. I'm so sick and tired of people bullshitting on the internet like "Oh It DoEsNt hAvE dEePer MeAnIng!" dude ...what was the deep meaning behind D12 by Eminem? Nothing! He just made fun of bands and boygroups and shit. Jesus... Plus...what is "a deep meaning for you?", we could have this arguement centuries long (which ..fun fact has been going on for centuries). Almost 2 decades ago, Marilyn Manson was cricized because his music was "too violent" and it "haD nO DeEp MeAniNg" whatsoever, fast forward 2 decades and you're bringing up the same shit. Do me and yourself a favor, go to YT, bandcamp, soundcloud and Spotify and just brows through the music, I BET you're going to find artist who do really nice songs with the most simplistic shit ever. I mean hell..not long ago, the lord of the rings was seen as high literature and nowadays people be like "ugh..that's not high literature it's LoW".

[@JohnnyMontilla]

I know what must be done.

[@tysonwastaken]

i was not expecting you here at all

[@bootlegpreacher]

I could definitely see Axl Rose being butthurt over a comment about shoes. Probably enough to cause a 20,000 person riot.

[@DrDipsh1t]

Need some "girls, girls, girls" type stuff. Dumb, fun, catchy stuff

[@SpacemanXC]

May I introduce you to Steel Panther? If your tastes are a little more thrashed, perhaps Municipal Waste? If your adventures require plate armor, maybe some Dragonforce? If that's not enough, hopefully we get a new Tenacious D album sometime soon.

[@keithclarke5137]

@@SpacemanXC you bet me to it steel panther great.

[@biblicaladrian6007]

Alestrom

[@SpacemanXC]

@Luke We live in an age where bands like Vulfpeck can sell out Madison Square Garden by virtue of their online presence. (if you havn't seen this i highly recommend, its here on youtube just search Vulfpeck) Maybe its time we start viewing popularity differently. And maybe its up to us to be more active in finding things we like and supporting them.

[@tonyengardio8413]

If you want rock to be back in the mainstream. Forget bands, it will be solo artists

[@TundraCH]

King Gizzard and The Lizard Wizard are probably way too "out there" to have any mainstream appeal, but they are the epitome of fun rock music

[@SaintTrinasTorch]

THERE IS NO PLANET....B OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEEEEE

[@icecreammanz8o]

I love quarters so much but music like that will never be mainstream forsure

[@thebra1n473]

They’re still popular, but yeah not many people who dont listen to their kind of music listen to them

[@dansmoothback9644]

Fuzz, Meatbodies, etc. I'd really enjoy hearing more bands like these that take that fuzzy stoner/psych sound and put a little pep it its step. Like, music doesn't have to be "pop" to be fun. I imagine high energy, get the crowd moving, get the band moving, put a smile on everyone's faces.

[@quotedspider8534]

Fishingggggg for fishiiiiies

[@t-sparrow9139]

I do agree very much with this. Me being a metal head I still want to have fun while listening to music. I do think that MGK is going to revolutionize rock and hopefully open everyone else’s minds to something new. I love old metal and rock band’s myself but times change so why can’t music change? I’m excited for the new revolution and see where it goes in the future.

[@toemasmeems]

Punk Rock MBA replaced my teen days of watching VH1 but he’s even better because he has good taste in music

[@emilioolivares]

This comment is the s***! Right there with you.

[@jacoba4246]

You should do a vid of all the pop punk bands in the 00’s teen movies, man.

[@nncntblzzrd2427]

Please, dont do

[@sheniahasiamah9802]

YES!!!

[@princegoatcheese9379]

It's okay, rock is just going through its "I'm [BR]OK[EN]" misunderstood poet phase.

[@KevisaVivose]

Hey man, I get what you're using but I think it's supposed to be " I'm BR[OK]EN ". Lol

[@mateuszkucharski1350]

And you named the song which should be mentioned. All Pantera's stuff is fun as fuck. Nothing today is even close to this.

[@denjips3765]

Bren

[@alexylophony]

Hey Bren, I'm dad!

[@dudewhy2849]

This, my friends, is why I like Eskimo Callboy. Sure it’s metalcore, but man it’s fun. Sure they have some serious songs, but for the most part they’re all about having fun. BMTH had a fun music video for “Obey” and that was a super serious song. The music isn’t the problem, but we need to have fun with it.

[@SpectreSoundStudios]

Great episode, Finn! Really enjoyed this one!

[@feelingevaporated2912]

So hard to imagine you enjoying each others’ content due to the tone difference, but I love it! And yeah this was a great video.

[@alexhennigh5242]

GLENNJAMIN!!!

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Thank you!

[@junkawakami3193]

F U Glenn! I know you've been asking the same question for the course of your musical exploits

[@thisisntguy]

Always love seeing other content creators I follow supporting each other! Time to go program some guitars, drums, bass and vocals :D Maybe it'll be fun.

[@pAWNproductionsDE]

I love artsy, inaccessible, and thought-provoking music as much as any other hipster, but (generally) you can't make stuff like that and expect your name to be anywhere near the billboards. Most people just want entertainment and spectacle

[@butHomeisNowhere___]

There's a time and place for Liquid Tension Experiment.

[@nicholashouse4261]

That time is now.

[@territorialpissings6325]

It doesn’t matter what you look like or your product looks like, it’s what it sounds like - Kurt

[@dtklamf7457]

and his "product" sounded like shit. Good riddance.

[@wednesday.uk_]

@@dtklamf7457 no one asked

[@breh7181]

I miss Kurt

[@imyourpapi261]

@@dtklamf7457 go ahead, make your playlists public and let us see what you like.

[@dtklamf7457]

​@@imyourpapi261 Start with The Velvet Underground & The New York Dolls and find your own way in every direction from there like I had to. BTW I was at Nirvana's first ever NYC show (as well as their first NJ show) Where you you? That's right. NOT FUCKING BORN YET!!!!

[@Jacson_23]

I want to be able to listen to songs that validate my unhappiness but also songs that give make me feel on top of the world.

[@toddrodriguez517]

Not just rock, but musicians from different genres are taking themselves way to series, to the point that they want to save the world with their political views and thinking. I really miss artist who didn't take themselves too serious and just made music to entertain us hope we get an artist who does that.

[@VoodooChaos]

Pique agrees!

[@pluviophile1988]

I know, everything has to have some fuckng cause or activist bulshit threaded throughout it

[@richardc2755]

People like fun and guitar solos. Van Halen, Twisted Sister and Motley Crue have guitar solos. My ear holes need more guitar solos. 🤘

[@fishcakes5626]

Lol True. Just don’t bore ppl to death with 10 minute long neoclassical compositions

[@n3dnarbofficial95]

You can listen to my metal song, I posted one on here with a decent solo and I wrote and produced the entire track myself. It's just a teaser but theres is more coming soon :)

[@EricBourassa]

Satchel

[@richardc2755]

@@EricBourassa yes, Satchel rules 🤘🤘

[@EricBourassa]

@Nathaniel Mars Guitar solos rule. I’m not really into that kind of music but I do love great guitar solos. I’d love to hear more of these punk influenced bands add some top-notch solos to create near perfect music

[@buzzclearwater4819]

Ultimate example is David Lee Roth, , every song on every album with Van Halen was about partying, no love songs, no songs about being sad, or addiction or depression,

[@mack7235]

And it was awesome

[@jaspermcminnis5538]

I hear their song "Jump" is about depression.

[@bells.verissimo]

Amazing video! It makes a lot of sense! And the fact that MGK and other young artists are bringing pop punk back makes me so happy, they are really doing a great job

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Thank you!

[@minecraftmondays]

@@ThePunkRockMBA yo maybe replying to this will give you a notification what's the song at 12:55 there's like six other comments looking for it

[@IxTechNiK]

The Ramones had it all. Fun songs and some sad ones. They've truly been overlooked by so many people

[@kelb6073]

💯...maybe they weren't intricate, but fuckin Joey knew what was up.

[@vojtechpretorius707]

@@kelb6073 So overlooked that people don't know them even if they look straight down at their t-shirt

[@shanesmith2853]

Same with the Addicts. Those geezers still put on one hell of a fun show.

[@shanesmith2853]

Adicts *fucking autocorrect*

[@sandalnice3333]

Ramones are super underrated in my opinion

[@str8edge_lifer83]

I'm a punk/hardcore/metal guy at heart, but the absolute best concert I've ever been to was Less than Jake with Reel Big Fish. Make Ska Great Again!

[@Rikkrtreat]

Go follow the skatunenetwork on social media, they post a lot of rad modern ska bands

[@the1jmacify]

Interrupters For The Win

[@str8edge_lifer83]

@@the1jmacify interrupters are fantastic

[@thevashfan12392]

needs more leftover crack.....but sadly after their SFH band....I've kinda lost all passion (SFH was very mellow and emotional, but a band like Days N Daze did something like that but better cause they're "thrashgrass" or "folk punk" which mixes better)

[@MikeP2055]

I'll never miss a LTJ show when they're in town. *Always* a goofy good time.

[@HippieVKing]

There are lots of interesting new bands coming, but I think that the Rock community is so deep conservative about the old hits and old bands, that they don't even give them a chance. Also, every time someone says they like a rock song, there is always that guy who needs to prove he loves it more, he knows it more, and that he's a bigger fan than you are. The community is over protective about their taste! I remember when Avenged Sevenfold started becoming a big deal, and the majority was like "this is kids music". But now they miss that days HAAHA

[@T0xXx1k]

Avenged sevenfold is my favourite band and I'm here to tell you that waking the fallen was a GD MASTERPIECE. Also to very much prove your point. That was so reflexive I almost couldn't not say anything and mid thought I was like yup this is what he taking about and he right. 🧡 🦇

[@ktownshutdown21]

Yeah, the rock scene has a bad habit of not being too kind to outsiders. Like it took them *forever* to get off of Babymetal's ass when they were on the come up, despite folks like Rob Zombie and Judas Priest trying to vouch for them like "hey, they're cool, relax guys!" Even MGK right now is still seeing resistance that never want to move past Metallica. It's their strict taste or nothing. Little wonder then why the younger generation would be hesitant to join the community and carry the torch.

[@calebjaques1416]

I would argue that the main reason rock songs became boring is because the only bands creating rock songs in 2013 were guys who hadn't been teenagers since 1998 and the only things they had going on in their lives to sing about were divorce and raising kids alone. No new, young bands picked up the torch for Blink 182, Sum 41, Green Day, All Time Low, and Paramore because those new singers chose to become rappers or DJs instead. Consequently, there was no one to sing about teen angst and love anymore.

[@Syndikalisten]

Well you have Ghost... Dance Macabre is a party song ^^

[@able7732]

Yes. Hail satan

[@naajculajna]

I see things this way. Movies, books, music... If I havn’t seen it, read it or heard it it’s new to me no matter when it was made.

[@rorobear1940]

Rock stopped being fun when you couldn't dance to it anymore - most of the music from the biggest genres is made to be danced to

[@21flab]

Maybe rock is following the historical trajectory of jazz in it's relationship to popular music.

[@cheekywanker193]

This is why I mostly listen to Japanese rock. Always energetic.

[@FalconGaming67]

Japanese rock/metal scene is pretty good.

[@quantumlp8807]

@@FalconGaming67 any recommendations to get into it?

[@FalconGaming67]

@@quantumlp8807I would recommend: Band-Maid, Lovebites, Aldious, Nemophila, the GazettE, Crystal Lake (probably you know them), Unlucky Morpheus, Yousei Teikoku, Crossfaith, Coldrain, Galneryus, Wagakki Band, Ningen Isu, Mary's Blood, Maximum The Hormone, Doll$Boxx, TRiDENT exガールズロックバンド革命, Dir en Grey.

[@quantumlp8807]

@@FalconGaming67 thanks!

[@cheekywanker193]

@@quantumlp8807 Malice Mizer, Hyde, D'espairsray. Just look on KZbin. You'll find lost of bands and such

[@JoshuaPagan]

"...Some generic rock guy crying in the bathtub?" Fuckin' killed me, hahaha

[@MilitantMe]

A better description of Saliva has never been given.

[@barneyhooky294]

11:23 that's literally the direction New Order took. They were originally an indie post-punk band called Joy Division but the frontman Ian Curtis died from suicide due to personal problems and fame. New Order fused other styles of music like indie, pop, dance and electronic and basically invented their own genre called "Alternative Dance" they were a major success and popular among clubs and djs during the 80s. They might have also influenced some modern indie bands. Edit: i might want to add the smiths and the cure who also influenced most present day indie and jangle rock music

[@nicholashouse4261]

I think one part of the issue is that rockers have adopted the elitist punk attitude, but without adopting the beliefs and values of hardcore and punk that made the attitude make sense back in the 80s. Instead of the social and political philosophy of bands like the Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat/Fugazi, and Youth of Today, we have a bunch of grumpy hairy bearded dudes who whine about not having an audience while doing everything they can to alienate any potential listeners. I feel like rock, especially underground rock, has become a set of rules--don't do collabs, don't do radio friendly stuff, don't self-promote, don't have a cool lightshow, don't be a rockstar--don't do anything that shows that might be fun or enjoyable. It's becoming like the 90s Norwegian metal scene--"I'm miserable, so everyone else has to be miserable too! And if you're not miserable, you're a poser."

[@TheNewChevyRoll48]

Elitist Punk... isn't that an oxymoron?

[@adeptdamage3669]

Radio friendly stuff should be banned.

[@aerialpunk]

@@TheNewChevyRoll48 You'd think so, but there's a lot of it out there, kinda always has been. Back in the early 2000s, I was pretty big into the punk scene, and was in a band and stuff, but there were a handful of people grouching about how people were too "pop" and not hardcore enough. I thought it was idiotic, personally - let people have fun with music and fashion and all that, and as long as it's coming from a genuine place (not trying to jump on a trend) then it's all good. But yeah, even back then not everyone agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if older punks saw at least a little of that attitude back then, too. These days you see people saying you can't be conservative and punk, which makes me laugh because if you wanna be technical, liberalism *is* the mainstream these days & they just haven't realized it yet.... though personally I don't think they should gatekeep to begin with.

[@ryanfraley7113]

@@aerialpunk Maybe this is because at the core conservatives were the original innovators of cancel culture? People win historical understandings realize that punk would get attacked by conservative politicians the second it became cool again.

[@aerialpunk]

@@ryanfraley7113 One of the Ramones was conservative (can't remember which off the top of my head; maybe it was Johnny?). And politics can change (and boy, has it ever in my lifetime). Plus, there are different facets of any political belief, it's just not that simplistic. Now, being conservative is counter-culture, that's just what it is, and it doesn't matter if maybe hypothetically conservatives in general wouldn't like it if it became cool again. Heck, I'd wager a lot of them right now don't like it. It doesn't really matter, because punk music isn't tied to a specific set of political beliefs. If say the only thing that is a must for a punk attitude is that most punks, and punk philosophy, don't overly care what others think of them, they tend to care about the little guy and the working class. The idea that conservatives *can't ever* encompass these things, or that the left wing always does, is just bald-faced stereotyping with little ground in reality. Back in the day, punks struggled with social issues from different sides, were often anti-authority... Now they struggle with these issues, and are anti-authority, but the issues have all changed and the power balances have changed. It'd be really silly to say this or that person can't be punk, just because they hold some different views, or maybe have changed in accordance with the rest of the world.

[@wildfyre-music]

Damn, I've never made fun music, guess that explains a lot about why my songs never go as far as I'd like them to? Then again, I've never really turned to music for fun - I turned to it as a medium to alleviate my pain and depression. I guess it goes back to, you know how to write what you experience. That being said, this video has been very informative for me, thanks! I'm gonna keep doing what speaks to me though, even if it never goes anywhere!

[@LessAlex]

“I would rather lick the back sweat of Kid Rock than go to an EDM concert.” I felt that.

[@ItsVoXoN]

go to a Dubstep concert, metal fans actually love it, cause of the hard energy as metal/rock has.

[@Shikigami6]

Also Artists like Carpenter Brut and Perturbator seem very appealing for many rock/metal fans