Rogue Perfumery Thrice: ISHTAR, JASMIN ANTIQUE, & TUBEROSE AND MOSS + an epic IFRA RANT Let's Go!

[@RichMitch]

So, is mousse illuminee still not ifra compliant. I want 3 from this house but its pointless if they are compliant. I could just get vintage instead

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

I asked him awhile ago and he says no reformulations. Just took off the aggressive tag line for the house. It's unfortunate, because that's a big part that put him on the map and got him into Lucky Scent.

[@RichMitch]

@@TherapeuticFragrance does he still sell on etsy?

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

Yeah, I looked before the video he's at 10% off right now. I have seen him go 20% a couple of times.

[@RichMitch]

@@TherapeuticFragrance imma bout to email u

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

checking now

[@pmrp12]

Interesting about the non-IFRA tag line. He still has his warning about the bergamot and oakmoss amounts in his Etsy product description though. I finally picked up a bottle of Chypre-Siam (at 20% discount from his Etsy shop!) and messaged him on a few topics. He confirmed there have been no reformulations-only upgraded qualities of oakmoss and vanilla bean absolute back in 2018. He also confirmed the new bottles were because he wanted more proper and professional bottles to house his product. I can confirm, it’s a stunning presentation befitting the scent. Have you tried Bon Monsieur yet? Classic barbershop fougere vibes. Creamy lavender pine shave soap. I’ve heard comparisons to vintage Tsar, but I get a smoother blended TF Beau de Jour. I know you’re sensitive to soapy so curious to hear your take. Have tried most of his scents, but currently comparing 4 of them on my arm right now-Fougere L’aube is basically a less sharp GIT, Tabac Vert is a dusty leather tobacco wood, Bon Monsieur is gentlemanly creamy shave soap, and Chypre-Siam is a gorgeous green floral powder. C-S is still my fave, but BM & TV could also be easy pickups in my future.

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

Yeah I have kept on the house quite a bit and new presentation is better. A lot of people stuck with the screw bottles and has to be noticed for the people that help get Rogue here. Big evaporation in both of my bottles so far. Ouch. Makes for a high end concentration. Also since I mentioned it in every one of my videos as he is the only one to market Non-Ifra I am going to make it a point that he has shrunken to pressure and taken that off of his branding. I know what got him here. Sick of brands using marketing techniques to grow and then giving into the scare tactics of the industry. Believe me I ran into all the same people on my reviews. They run from me because I don't have a brand to threaten and can counter there arguments and show the complete nonsense they have. Have to try BM. CS is something I won't be without and will watch as the brand grows. I got the first batch before the oak moss upgrade. Wanted to smell original work. But randonmly sample as I order from places to check in. Love all the new stuff he has done except price, but it was cheap and help justify the homemade screw top. Wish he would of kept the Non-Ifra tagline. I'll be honest it's the main thing that drew me to cover and sample his house, was his advert middle finger to the institution.

[@pmrp12]

@@TherapeuticFragrance right there with you brother. And like you, I’ve only had allergic reactions from mass market scents... interesting how that works. I will say, I’ve had dermatologists warn me that naturals have many more *potential* allergens than an isolated synthetic aromachemical-but if you’re allergic to that isolate, you’re gonna know it!

[@jonathanbornstein5839]

I strangely love wearing Jasmine Antique. On my skin it’s an indolic monster, but it wears more minty, and less sweet. I know there are more elaborate, we’ll developed white florals out there, but I have fun wearing JA haha.

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

Jonathan Jasmin Antique if I had it and should of mentioned it is a layering dream for the monster it is. I don't know if your into oud or not, but try layering this with any oud I would go Cambodion if you have any. Also if you have any gourmands that are two sweet this could pair good with a few of those. Or just wear it like a boss, like your doing now. Cheers Friend.

[@jonathanbornstein5839]

Therapeutic Fragrance great idea! I may actually throw it on with Slowdive tonight to see what happens. Tomorrow I’ll wear it with Oud Extraordinarie.

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

Now your inspiring me. Both ideas sound like I have to see for myself:)

[@Cicelyize]

To me it’s not dirty, but rather naturalistic like real blooming jasmine plants at night. I guess that as a white floral lover I am used to much worse 😂 Moon Bloom for example registers much more indolic in the opening than JA and others like Jasmin Rouge or Lust from Lush that I feel are “looking for trouble”. JA feels quite polite in comparison!

[@rosaabbate]

I haven’t even seen Tuberose and Moss yet. I love Flos Mortis. Have to try this one.

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

Flos Mortis I wish I could swap out for my Fougere.

[@prestondavid1530]

instablaster.

[@RgTrace]

You have GOT to check out Meleg's Civet Chypre

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

Was planning on being in Vancouver this summer but I hope things at the border open up for the fall

[@RgTrace]

@@TherapeuticFragrance tell me about it. I'm dying to head back to Montreal myself.

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

Have you been stuck this whole time?

[@RgTrace]

@@TherapeuticFragrance We live in Boston but like everyone else, just feel stuck. Cant wait to hop across this border for a little vaca.

[@smartass11225]

Mousse illuminee is my fav from the line

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

I wish I would of gotten that, Champs, or Flos over Foguer L'aube

[@CrappyProducts]

It's the best from the house, but I can see why some people love Chypre Siam

[@CrappyProducts]

Brandon we need you to review Patou pour Homme, it's the Holy grail of Vintage perfumery. God like Fougere/Chypre

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

Oh man I'm in the look out for something you say this about. This is how I got into vintages last year were the people I trust letting me know the things I had to get my nose on.

[@CrappyProducts]

@@TherapeuticFragrance It cost me a massive premium to get, but I have no regrets. I think know your style, so I'm sure you'll die for this. It's actually a shame it's not in production anymore, but if Patou pour Homme EDT was bottled by Roja it would sell like cakes upwards of a grand. I really encourage you to try and find at least the miniature 10ml to try it out.

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

All I have seen is eBay. I know have a couple people looking for me. I don't trust eBay at all to easy to be burned and fight over reformulation or watered down content.

[@CrappyProducts]

@@TherapeuticFragrance You can try to find a miniature 10ml. They are costly, but trust me you can get your money back if you need

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

Theres a hunter I know that has come through. I put the word out for this one. Not willing to pay the full bottle prices that this is currently at. The vintage shop I go to in Portland the gentleman there told me about this fragrance. I sampled the new formulation from him and kind of forgot about it until now. He raved about the glory days of this like you are. And he has gotten me a couple gems as well.

[@RichMitch]

I got a shocking rash from jungle Jezebel

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

Exactly. My main culprits have been from byKilian

[@RichMitch]

@@TherapeuticFragrance killian is not a good brand imo. The quintessential Veblen goods

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

You get a really cool case though, it just cost a few hundred:)

[@RichMitch]

@@TherapeuticFragrance there are *actual* coffins that dont cost that much money

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

That is true, but you don't get the fancy paper bag to carry around from the designer store😂

[@Skeletor4Prez]

Hahaha nice Rob and Big reference!!!

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

Finally someone gives me a shoutout for it. I miss Big!

[@Skeletor4Prez]

@@TherapeuticFragrance that show was underrated comic genius!

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

It really setup a lot of modern reality tv interaction and production.

[@vmendonc]

Love you brother!!!

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

Love you back!!! This is stuff that has to be done.

[@vmendonc]

Therapeutic Fragrance you know it... and you can count on me!

[@chumleyk]

This is what's going to happen. As the Non-IFRA perfumes become more 'trendy', IFRA will first demand that non-conforming perfumes remove any mention of IFRA non-compliance. This will expose the perfume makers. THEN, behind the scenes, they will sponsor lawsuits for certain 'purchasers' who have reactions to said perfumes. IFRA absolutely CANNOT have the success of non-IFRA compliant perfume because it will shine a MASSIVE spotlight on all their client's perfumes as significantly lacking in comparison. Their existence depends on it. We know niche now dictates global perfume trends, IFRA are screwed if they don't take action. They are screwed if they take OVERT action though.

[@justaddlight]

Kitty cat pawns 🤭 I'm a fan of Manuel's stuff. That's all I'll say. 😂

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

I hope it came across I am also. Just want to make sure this is up here so people do defend perfumers taking the risk. I will have all of their backs as long as I have this platform.

[@itskyyuuuu]

Manuel Cross is an interesting dude

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

Most definitely, no matter how this plays out I am sure he didn't mean to, but he gets a lot of credit for waking people up of why everything keeps getting re-formulated.

[@medicinejo]

Thanks for supporting real perfumery. I have really enjoyed Rogue fragrances.

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

Thanks for sharing! He is offering important work to the market.

[@johnrodonis4186]

It's the "Mousse," "Fougere," "Monsieur," and "Vert" Rogues for me.

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

Nice. Skipping the Siam I see:)

[@johnrodonis4186]

@@TherapeuticFragrance I really like Siam. I like them all in one way or another. However, I have a chypre from Meleg that is magnificent. And, for me, one chypre is enough. Derviche though is sneaking up on me. It's sort of addictive.

[@noseknowsnonotes6833]

when you see 'rant' in a Therapeutic title, you have to be there 😂

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

This made me Chuckle, thanks for that. When nobody watched that's all I did😂😂😂 Now I have to be tied to a strict format or it's off to the races. It's why I avoid live also😂, thanks Brian

[@noseknowsnonotes6833]

@@TherapeuticFragrance I'm just happy you said #DipperDabber again

[@CrappyProducts]

Indeed!

[@timetomuskup2]

Fuck ifra great video thank you. Enjoy your weekend.

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

You said it👊

[@Zyklus360]

An 80s Ric Flair trying to Jafar 😅🤣

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

One day your going to have to create a rap with all my one liners👊. Still no one picking up on Bobby Light.

[@Amyleonhardt947]

😂

[@TherapeuticFragrance]

😜

[@chumleyk]

You have to up your game regarding examples of who would wear it. So low class.