SCX10 - Vanquish Products Stage 1 Upgrade Review

[@TheRCNetwork]

Yeah, Vanquish products are second to none. My Stage 1 kit is still going strong!

[@TheRCNetwork]

Thanks for the comments. The lines are my cmera not playing nice with my lighting! I've bee shopping for a body, not shure what to go with. I like the idea of the rear honcho style, but wo knows.

[@TheRCNetwork]

"I hade to use the inner hole because of the tire rub issue" The traxxas rod ends are pretty large and almost touched the tire in the outer most hole. Going from stock knuckles to these, it seemed like I gained steering, plus the higher steering is great! I'll have more info later today, as I'm heading out to run this thing!

[@RCMarty]

Love the VP stuff. Haven't got any on my Wraith yet but after seeing a few rigs updated with their products I'm sure as heck gonna put some on my own rig. Great vid as always, very informative with a very calm delivery, keep up the good work !!!

[@TheRCNetwork]

Thanks! The SCX10 is a great platform to make it your own. You will like crawling, but fast RC's a great too

[@TheRCNetwork]

Yeah, I'm working on that. Seems like the fluorescent lighting and the white background when I removed the truck went haywire and created lines. Thanks for the nice comments!

[@TheRCNetwork]

cool, keep me posted. Love seeing upgrade videos

[@TheRCNetwork]

Thanks for all the great comments! Vanquish stuff is really the best upgrades out there. I guess If I could choose poor product or poor response time......

[@TheRCNetwork]

Yeah, I think I've narrowed it down to when ever there's a majority of white is when the lines develop. may have to change the rear backdrop.

[@Doctor__Wiki]

Just ran into the same problem. Gonna shop around for some wheels tonight...

[@BlackSmithRC]

Great video bro! A definite "heads-up" on what is all needed to make things work. 100% MIDWID Material video!

[@TheRCNetwork]

Thanks! Yeah, I believe Vanquish changed their product description after this video.

[@TheRCNetwork]

It's the RC4WD tough armor bumper. Great, sturdy bumper and has a winch mount

[@TheRCNetwork]

Sounds good, I think Medic had a Hauler recently with working stacks.

[@TheRCNetwork]

I put a link in the video description to Vanquish's site. You can buy from other places as well. I paid $22 for it.

[@RichieD088]

Vanquish is where it' at brother.. ! good heads up... peace

[@slashbashin]

Steering gain would make sense. The leverage being closer to the rotation point would cause that. Its like on airplanes when you move the linkage to the inner most hole on the control surface to max throw for 3D flying.

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

The "8 Degree" positioning of the Knuckles, is called the "Kingpin Angle" or Axis..... The most obvious advantage, anyone with a Wraith or Bomber already knows, is better Straight Line Stability. The Angle creates a self centering feature. Also, you get increased Camber in turns, making the front Tires bite better in turns. This is not only great for high speed - but when Crawling..... It gives the Front End MORE grip when side hilling! It gets asked often. I've built the 1:1 version of these, and just wanted to add some insight. 😉

[@jhselti1]

Great vid just got me a scx10 on an rc trade and working on getting it rebuilt its my first crawler so its really new to me coming from a slash. Also got a cr-01 chassis but I think I am going to sell it to get another scx10.

[@markgueren9633]

Ahh in that case... Very cool...I didn't notice the date... Sorry!! Keep up the good work!!!

[@TheRCNetwork]

No worries. It was a huge ordeal. I was trying to get some answers about why nothing would work after installing the Stage 1 kit. One day, I double checked the website and all of the "new" info was available!

[@TheRCNetwork]

Welcome to the club! Call Steve and tell him. DON'T EMAIL!!! He still hasn't responded to my email from 3 weeks ago! You may have to use the wider hexes like mine.....if you have any stub axle left. Steve told me that there's no issue with the Vanquish rims and the optional sizes of hubs. BTW, I test fit the 2.2 Proline Titus Beadlocks with the 2.2 Flat Irons and there was a ton of room. I went down to the stock hexes for that set up.

[@myjrbear]

i would just use the 475 wheel hubs from Vanquish, cant go any smaller because of the 8 degree steering knuckles.

[@TheRCNetwork]

Yeah, but with my already purchased RC4WD Dick Cepek wheels, I didn't have much of a choice. The DC wheels were almost the exact same offset as the stock Axial honcho wheels too.

[@carlozmrc]

Truck looks nice and solid! Cant wait to see what aftermarket body you end up using & 7:07 whats up with the yellow lol?

[@FrancoisTX1974]

Nice video man! Finally do you have a ref for the steering link?

[@ArturoM209]

I have a set of those 8 degree knuckles on my SCX10 but the angle is ridiculous. I wonder if I'm doing something wrong

[@TheRCNetwork]

+Arturo Morando I just had an issue with it clearing most non-slw hubbed wheels

[@ArturoM209]

Did I mess up by not going with a full set? the only thing I purchased was the actual knuckle

[@thestuffz]

thanks for the video. just ran into that steering link issue!

[@TheRCNetwork]

Glad to help

[@TheRCNetwork]

Tell Steve or Tom at Vanquish that Rich from the RCNetwork says Hi! And "I told you so"! hat will probably be my route soon, buying new wheels, although I have $130 in these DC wheels already

[@NCRCHavoc]

Hi thanks for the video. Have you tried this set up with upgraded CVD type axle shafts? I found using the Axial upgraded cvd shafts improved the turning radius significantly - meaning I can turn the SCX10 even "sharper". So much that at full lock the tire on the outside of the turn is nearly sideways and binds up!

[@TheRCNetwork]

I haven't ran the CVD's on the Honcho. I do run them in other vehicles and see the advantage. Thanks for watching!

[@TIXX41]

ya im having the same problem with my tires rubbing on the high steering knuckle and im using vanquish rims and rock crushers from rc4wd i have tried diffrent hubs from vanquish and they still rub

[@Monstermanhbf]

Hello I'm looking to get the same Vanquish upgrades for my scx10 glad I came across this video of yours. Will for sure save me some aggravation. Question though who's steering servo set up are you running and how is that servo performing for you? Thanks for your time

[@TIXX41]

ya i got some rc4wd 1.9 Militants there gonna look bad ass im using the stock jeep tires i hope they dont rub i got my vanquish rims not to rub by using the vanquish 475 hex hubs ill be posting a video tomorrow i kinda got ahead of myself and the trucks like 90% built lol sorry but i will show all the parts and how it looks im gonna be using a hpi 2002 dodge ram body and a ford f250 body im still waiting on the motor and esc to come in the mail

[@posjoey]

Do they make a kit they will work with the stock wheels?

[@chandlerjohnson5188]

Howdy. Just wondering if the Axial scx10 aluminum steering linkage upgrade will work with Vanquish knuckles/C hubs. I have the rear Vanquish lockouts and you are correct in their installation, easier than breathing:)

[@TheRCNetwork]

It won't, as it's not long enough to reach the "zero Ackerman" of the vanquish knuckles. I ended up with the Vanquish currie steering linkage and it worked perfect. You can also make your own.

[@crackedaces]

What front bumper is that your running? Thanks!

[@Victorbanda1234]

Hey, do you have to use the extended wheel hexes when using the vanquish wheels with the sow hubs?

[@TIXX41]

im putting a aluminum set of 6" smoke stacks on the dodge ill be cutting to size there for the tamiya king hauler i got them off ebay some guy makes them you should come down to edmonton ab man we could tear up the trails lol

[@SpsTamiya]

Hey Rich , the TLR 22sct hex you mentioned in RCC , do you have the part numbers by chance . i have a set of VP high steer zero Ackerman knuckles in the mail but am running rc4wd pro10s with oem hex hubs, so i need to prepare in advance. thanks

[@TheRCNetwork]

SPS Tamiya I believe they were these: www.nitrohouse.com/Rear-Hex-15mm-Width-Aluminum-22SCT_p_14051.html

[@reevesripper]

and also can I use the stock ring and pinion from axial in the vanquish scx10 housing?

[@TheRCNetwork]

J Reeves I believe so...

[@reevesripper]

The RCNetwork thanks man!

[@AdiAdHag]

what is the benefit of 8º c-hub & knuckle over the stock?

[@TheRCNetwork]

The benefit of the VP 8* set-up is less tire scrub, which improves overall steering performance by reducing the amount at which the tires fight each other. The 8* knuckle setup allows for normal caster (clocking) angles while reducing scrub angles and maximizing tire contact patch.

[@baloobalucifer2591]

When those blue knuckles get scratched do they show silver scratches ?

[@TheRCNetwork]

Yep, they sure do, but very little wear so far

[@baloobalucifer2591]

Thanks for that! I couldn't get vanquish to answer. I think i will go with silver since they are going to be silver anyway

[@TheRCNetwork]

Yeah, I found getting a hold of Vanquish led to a phone call. Thanks for watching!

[@pec0309]

Hello Rcnetwork, Please excuse my ignorance but I am new to the scale trucks and just got my SCX10 last month. What are the rear axel lock outs?? Thank you.

[@TheRCNetwork]

They're the (in my video) blue aluminum ends to the rear axle on the SCX10

[@pec0309]

So, is just to cover axle ends? Or do it serve any other purpose?

[@TheRCNetwork]

It pretty much strengthens the ends of the axle.

[@pec0309]

The RCNetwork OK Thank you for responding. Cheers.

[@focustuner10]

I recently bought this same truck and was wondering if you could tell me, can I run a 3 cell Lipo on the stock electronics? I couldn't find anything on the axial website or info that came with the truck. I don't want to just try it and fry the speed control. Any help is greatly appreciated.

[@TheRCNetwork]

+focustuner10 Yep, the Honcho should have the rebranded castle sidewinder ESC, that is capable of 3s with no issues. Just make sure your gearing and motor make sense, and watch the temps the first few runs

[@focustuner10]

Ok. Thank you very much for your help! I will give it a try.

[@reevesripper]

Hello! I was wondering if I could still use the stock axles from axial in the scx10 housing that vanquish sells. I trying to do this in a budget so anything helps!

[@TheRCNetwork]

J Reeves I believe so....The axle housings should take the bevel/pinion and pretty much all the Axial parts

[@TheZenChii]

+The RCNetwork hey ive watched a lot of your videos now they are great, nice and professional. I just just got and scx10 power wagon and I love it I have some questions though my chassis cross brace hits the steering link and prevents full compression also I've notice the 4 link links I guess they are called are sooo flexy already like too flexy so what's the top 3 must do upgrades in your opinion thank you, ps I love you lol

[@SWAYDRIFTAWAY]

hi ive recently put the stage one kit on my scx10 .. ime running axial 1.9 bead locks with proline super swampers XL versions.. i did your fix with the traxxas part and a washer .. i was wondering if you could recommend a slw hub i do intend on getting vp rims .. ive looked at there charts just want to confirm with you. 725 slw hubs seem to be on par with the measurements i get with your fix.

[@TheRCNetwork]

With VP rims, you won't need the fix in the video, as the SLW hubs give you the extra clearance you'll need. I haven't personally ran VP rims, but you may want to run it by +Evol Villain RC or +HarleyDesignsInc as they're VP affiliates and they run them.

[@joelelrod8721]

Did you have a problem with not enough thread left on axle shaft after installing traxxas hex? does anyone make a longer axle shaft?

[@TheRCNetwork]

Yep, slight issue with this set up.....since then, VP wheels have finally become more plentiful....at the time, all 2.2's were out of stock.....a simple SLW hub of the right offset will fix this

[@Easternrcjunkies]

If I use the stock wheels will it work after I use the traxxas hex hub extender

[@TheRCNetwork]

It should. The dick cepek wheels and stock are very close to the same offset

[@TIXX41]

ya steve from vanquish is a really nice guy i have delt with him with all my parts i even shot the shit on the phone with him for like 45 min lol cool guy for sure i love vanquish man and dude i got somthing for you whats your shirt size would an xl work?

[@STOLENM1NDS]

Im fixin to buy this setup how well will it work with the axial 1.9 8holes do i still need to buy those same hexes thanks in advance

[@TheRCNetwork]

Not sure....you'll have to check the offset on the Axial wheels....I would bet they will not fit though with the stock hexes

[@TheRCNetwork]

Thanks! Appreciate it!

[@TheRCNetwork]

No, as long as you have the correct size SLW hubs

[@fordon20s]

I'm far from buying the axles but do you know if this Stage 1 kit will work with any of the Vanquish Axles (Currie or VP types)? Thanks

[@TheRCNetwork]

+travisamc As far as I know, the standard VP SCX10 axles are meant for the stage one kit. The Currie SCX10 Axles from Vanquish can accept the front items of the Stage one kit, but the Curries' rear axle have the lock outs built into them

[@fordon20s]

+The RCNetwork Thanks for the reply, I did notice that the lockouts are part of the axle so that's nice. It's sounds like you need quite a few more items and new wheels for these to work, I'll get the set one day.

[@TheRCNetwork]

+travisamc I just did a Currie build on a custom Wraith - Super nice products.....just very expensive! Take a look: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y53Oq5ewltqeiK8

[@fordon20s]

+The RCNetwork +The RCNetwork yeah I've watched that build series quite a few times and I don't even have a Wraith. Such a beautiful rig you made, I have grand plans for my scx10 build but I get scared when I add up the bill.

[@gbaileyo7]

How many degree of steering do you have after the stage 1 kit?

[@TheRCNetwork]

+Garry Bailey A little bit better than stock but there's the advantage of the 8 degree tilt. Also, once I added the front Universals, it allowed for even more steering

[@My2centsRC]

thanks for this great video.

[@browns2470]

they make a stage 1 kit for the steering links

[@TheRCNetwork]

Jeremy Brown Question or statement?

[@markgueren9633]

Ummm... I guess you DID NOT read the description on the Vanquish web site... It specifically says you will need wider Hub nuts to clear most wheels...I generally enjoy your reviews but was a little disapointed that you didn't seem to do your home work on this one...

[@TheRCNetwork]

Think about it......because of my video, they changed the verbiage on the product description on the vanquish website (spelling errors and all!). There was nothing there before I purchased. I dealt with both CKRC and Steve at Vanquish to get a resolution

[@wolfbanger2124]

the stage one can be purchased for 69.99 now.

[@TheRCNetwork]

Not suprising since the release of the SCX10ii will make the scx10 parts somewhat clearance

[@My2centsRC]

thumbs up!!

[@pmm4177]

great video brother! my wife ordered me a set of the vanquish 2.2 kmc rockstar wheels for my scx10. long story shortened, I ended up with the 380 (I think, basically the 3/8" slw hubs) and when I mounted them and tried to install the wheels the stock axel was too long to mount the wheel so luckily I had also ordered a set of gear head delrin spacers that were 2 or 3 mm from rpp hobby and when I put them on I had the perfect fit for the scx10. But what I was getting to was the quality of vanquish is excellent! the detail and finish is amazing but is a bit pricey. not trying to plug my channel but if you'd like to see my still in progress scx10 jk build check out my channel. thanks for the good videos bro!

[@TheRCNetwork]

Yep, you can't beat Vanquish's quality! I'll check out the channel!

[@TheRCNetwork]

Yeah, seems like he's pretty down to earth. Vanquish is great stuff. XL is it! shoot me an email at richmtb01 at gmail dot com

[@markclausson564]

Having to make your Wheel base wider to use the product Should be something they state boldly on the site. That is totally ridiculous. Especially for something that expensive. Vanquish has failed.

[@TheRCNetwork]

I agree! In VP's defense, Steve, the owner of VP called me (on the phone...which was weird) and helped make everything work.

[@RCMarty]

lolll