There Are 2 Types of 360 Flips

[@metthiss]

Bold of you to assume I had tre flips

[@sk84life80]

Lol....for real.

[@Mfnchino]

I felt this....

[@DickOswald]

They are easyer than kickflips if u understand them

[@metthiss]

@@DickOswald I got those like 9/10 times right now so I might try them soon

[@swagmoneycash]

Lol same

[@sethusk]

I love Zac's tre flip, he makes it look so effortless. Super stylish.

[@ciscoak9074]

He does them like nijah or Dylan jaeb. Almost looks like no effort is bein put into the scoop.. the other way almost looks like your doin a karate kick while your feet are waiting to catch the board.

[@coalkeller5836]

I ordered a rail from you guys a few weeks ago and still haven’t got any information on it. Is there an email or someone I can contact

[@benArcherkent]

GET THIS MAN HIS RAIL

[@isaacdiaz5661]

GET HIM HIS RAIL

[@bradjames95]

Get this man his rail!

[@Deighs]

GET HIM HIS RAIL

[@joeld3043]

GET THIS MAN HIS RAIL

[@its_voidyt3202]

“You can only do a tre flip in like 3 or 4 ways.” Ellis: I can do 3 flips in 29 different ways.

[@ryanlee9150]

brooo that's so truee ahaha But I mean technically they're all the same way, with backfoot scooping under the board to flip it like a pressure treflip or underflip

[@birch9869]

Jamies way somehow works better for me when I skate gaps, but on flat I always do the scoop kinda treflip. Great video!

[@MIKEK3NT]

It works because hang time hehe. Jamie pushes his down.

[@e.at_work]

im the type that has to throw my whole body into it just to get one foot on

[@elijah5592]

Same dude, although I haven’t landed one yet, committing is the hardest part

[@e.at_work]

@@elijah5592 same but im omw dude

[@urbanhymns8880]

Loosen your trucks

[@e.at_work]

@@urbanhymns8880 thank you so much dude i just landed my first one and didnt think of this at all looking back, this looks like sarcasm but this was completely genuine

[@urbanumbra6170]

I landed my first and last tre on a walmart board. Maybe landed like 2 more but that was the only clean on i did with a good amount of speed

[@lisa_r5]

I love Zach’s tres. They look effortless and he never misses.

[@jackjordan3963]

yeah same, i like how they look.

[@christianpaeznegron]

you missed my type, the cant 360 flip

[@dfcvda]

same and i`ve skated through all of the era`s.

[@michaelcabunoc7318]

Everyone is first until you refresh.

[@tonyafox1778]

Your the first viewer but there’s like 15k like lol

[@bryceroberts8109]

📠

[@austinroberson3019]

Lol

[@austinroberson3019]

True

[@matthewtaylor7889]

Depends on your filters

[@JohnBattle909]

6:25 that was sooo clean 🔥🔥💪

[@sharpie12354]

Ellis Frost has a nuts way of doing his tres

[@beanplantboardslide2846]

He does it like a pressure flip, no front foot

[@Piequalse]

@@beanplantboardslide2846 its called a cheating flip

[@zvnabalisong4935]

Yeah exactly they should've tried that too

[@johnnyraven8178]

I do mine the same way, only way I can flip them.

[@addenberg1314]

@@johnnyraven8178 i feel that I also can’t do a tre with my front foot flicking. Just with my backfoot

[@dirtydirtmcgogurt]

That dude Zack's tre's are so effortless. Like he fell asleep and woke up on the bolts. And I could never get that back foot steez either. The ole Justin Brock Tre. Those look so cool. PS - Janoski in "Show Me the Way", is so funny. Tre flipping in the cereal aisle.

[@MythicalDrP]

Tre flip was the first hardest flip I ever landed. It was in my driveway and I ran inside my house yelling I landed a 360 flip. Great memory.

[@boom6578]

I'm the 3rd type, where you land on your face

[@warhammer1]

Or get a shinner.

[@landummy]

yo same

[@jiksgixar2034]

4th type, land only in dreams

[@zacharyhollenbach996]

8:16 I feel like it depends on where I’m doing it because if it’s down something I think I do more jamie griffin’s way but on flat I scoop more. 🤷🏽

[@sonip]

loving the vintage SB's you've both been skating recently guys!

[@bandkidteo]

what sbs is irving skatin??

[@sonip]

@@bandkidteo medicom 1 dunk low’s from 2004

[@bandkidteo]

@@sonip appreciate it g!

[@xistam]

zach actually looks like he has them, he just has to add the lazy back foot thing. Looks like it's actually hitting his back foot. Gonna give it a try also sometime this week damn rain lately

[@lsrpjune3500]

East coast? Lol same

[@xistam]

@@lsrpjune3500 yepp feels like every day lately

[@taylorhadley425]

Feeling you on that weather over here in Seattle😭rain every day

[@lsrpjune3500]

@@xistam yep I’m in Philadelphia/Lancaster area in pa and yeah, luckily it hasn’t snowed frequently though

[@sasquatchmindcontrol]

You in bc lower mainland ? Lots of rain here atm

[@Purpmaster]

The less scoop the more pop tre flips look so good. I think Devin Bagnoli has some of the best tre’s in the game.

[@MichaelaBrooke18]

Ellis frost gives the best advice for effortless tre flips! Y'all killt it

[@erikmarlowe5406]

I really liked how you guys introduced the topic in this vid

[@zvnabalisong4935]

You should also try it the way Ellis Frost does them. He flips with back foot which is really interesting. He can have his front foot wherever he wants and it'll still work

[@xRealUzz]

Thats called a 360 pressure flip

[@zvnabalisong4935]

@@xRealUzz Pretty sure it's not

[@ca_ja25]

@@xRealUzz a 360 pressure flip would spin like an inward heel

[@CoreyLizon]

“People love Tre flips” - guy Lmaoooo

[@alvinr6344]

I think more about the pop than I do the scoop for my tre flips. Y'all made me want to try this out tho; I might start setting my backfoot without the toe hanging. Who knows lol

[@ednorm6241]

man I love yalls setup that is the perfect indoor skate park play out. I like the garage doors reminds me of a place called the chi house back in tupelo mississippi. just got a new 8 board ccs gona get back on them 360 flips. to me that is like the coolest looking flip trick there is and feels super nice landing themm

[@will_lovett12]

Zack's board is so sick!!!

[@so_gnarsavage5148]

Zach's 10 year bluetile part popped up in my recommend, that back 3 kickflip over the gap was fucking nuts. That boy been good.

[@seanlilley1981]

Old skater in his mid 30's. I spent a stupid amount of 2020 unlearning and relearning my these. I think the back foot scoop thing is less a lie, and more of a hack to correct for bad posture. What people like Felipe Gustavo and Jamie both have when they pop is good posture and tension on the board. They are not hunched over, they are in the back seat. It's not all about the feet my friends.Edit: Zac your tre flips are really fucking nice

[@theslaken]

yea a good posture make a difference

[@andyalvarenga1318]

I've decided you're my new favorite skate channel

[@420catson]

irving is so cool i love irving

[@diegocorrea1059]

I was off my board for a month and I find it hilarious how it feel to get use to it again

[@williamworgan8647]

that doesnt give me confidance ive had a leg injury and been off my board since july :( tried a few flat ground tricks but could still feel the pain so i thought i better just rest totallu until back. bloody sucks man

[@diegocorrea1059]

@@williamworgan8647 ahh mann you should definitely let it heal really well before you try any tricks but I mean I just got back on it so it shouldn't take long before I get used to it again, it should be the same for you

[@williamworgan8647]

@@diegocorrea1059 yeah I hope you are right mate! Missing it soo much

[@diegocorrea1059]

@@williamworgan8647 I bet man

[@polatiger4765]

There are endless types of tre flips! Everybody is unique and has a unique style of doing anything.

[@reginaldanderson7896]

I fought with this trick for like 6 years and could like kinda do them at one point and then started to get them back last summer -- a few weeks ago I'd say got my first actual moving one and kept rolling away from it afterwards. I still don't fully understand them/have them on lock but if anyone out there is realllly struggling with them, keep going!!!!!

[@BobSk8s]

Good luck I lost my 3 flips when I got impossibles back. It's a dangerous game.

[@paulswift8667]

“that might be the best treflip i ever did” 😂

[@zackerymcpherson9409]

When I use to tre flip as a kid, it was my go to trick and I could do it a few different ways but getting a high pop was the most satisfying but much harder to get consistently.

[@TylerHimothyOneJr]

Am I the only one who noticed John has himself tagged as the ugly person in the description😢 You’re beautiful bro. Outside and your vision is beautiful. Hope you keep growing I’ve watched your channels for a long time now, was here for your first ever upload when you were under 50k subscribers. Much love brother! Your wise words help me a lot on your main channel and this helps me learn new ways of skating or things to buy to enhance my skating.

[@bugsta2012]

I think it’s worth learning for the simple fact it helps pop the board higher, so when you need a good pop you just adjust that foot to clear that picnic table 🤷‍♂️

[@welshryanvideos7599]

12 years ago before I stopped skating I never had tres because NO ONE mentioned hanging my back foot off. One dude pointed this out when I started skating again this year and I got them within a few days. Crazy.

[@CheesyBread]

I love this. I recently figured out tre flips with a scoop, but before I would always try to pop, scoop and flick. When I tried it like that I would never land it. It wasn’t until I realized my back foot did everything that I landed tres consistently. However, once I revisited the other way I found it was about the same in terms of difficulty just more pop. I love to do them both ways, feels like it depends on the obstacle.

[@xdrcx]

I noticed Zac has his shoulders pretty 'opened' up when he does tres, as in his shoulders are on an angle, almost perpendicular to board. If you pause when he's mid air he's almost completely facing forward. I've always thought that squared up shoulders (parallel to board) is the way to go. But when I've tried them with shoulders opened up, I feel like my lower body can make the board spin faster. Maybe this is the trick to getting those effortless fast tres Edit: 0:24 you can see him throw his arms out when he jumps and his stretched out arms are nearly perpendicular to the direction he's going

[@extremecheddarswityomom]

Always been easier to scoop but it seems like I can get more pop and higher tres it's just a little more difficult. Great content still guys. P.s. you should dedicate certain days to doing certain things like the berrics have first try fridays. Have like one day where is just raw footage of them skating..(dont have to keep every bail in the vid.) Have a day where you try a new board. Have a day where you focus on a trick that's difficult for one of them to land and have them tell there ideas, tips and opinions on how to land it to help beginner skaters. Be awesome for you to contact a young beginner skater and have them send a video of him or her landing the trick. Or a little compilation of them at the beginning like 2 or 3 mins of them. Than go over the trick and then show how each one does it and discuss the trick and origin. Maybe the videos of younger skaters and the tips and ideas will help influence other younger kids want to skate and help teach them how to do a trick they wanna learn. Then also have your day where you try out things like the penny board and long board. You can try out different trucks and wheels. Compare skate shoes to boots or tennis shoes. Make a video of the difference a person looks from skating in pants vs shorts and how pants gives ya that extra steez. Lmfao. Much love

[@aaronchiu]

medicom dunks😫👍🏼

[@veggieSxDBD]

Peace and good energy from 732Nj ✌🏻 being 47 lol I wish I never stopped skating but I got a new deck and my ventures n bones ...respect to you guys fr

[@salfromthego]

Zac tre flip is 🔥

[@StoneAquatics]

I tre just like zd its all backfoot my front dosnt even do anything

[@williamworgan8647]

most people do , its all in the backfoot

[@MRACTION64]

same

[@justinmeyerr]

Its still flicking slightly

[@joehelton6421]

I really just watched a video with only the flips and I loved it.

[@Sk8boardG5]

Janoski also leans a bit forward before popping (and then right after popping he leans a bit back into the z and y axis. Almost like the position u stand up on your board normally. (I hope that made sense) 🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@fiore_adriano]

That ground looks perfect for tre flips!

[@jackhogan2077]

Zak’s tres are effortless

[@tylerrobertsonskateboarding]

What size trucks you guys ride? 159?

[@de7io407]

this is what happens when you combine a 3 flip and an impossible

[@theowainwright7406]

no it isnt

[@SkatingwithAaron]

There’s a third way...the non-landing. Lol this trick still evades me!

[@DartWinger]

Yelp: 5 stars, would watch again.

[@ItsUxers]

I do mine with the spread eagle method I call it with my legs spread apart, helps keep me centered over the board a lot better, and to do it is you gotta pop the board a little more downward than scoop but might require more flick but that might depend on the person.

[@ItsUxers]

@Miami it's the dead of winter and I dont have a proper side angle of it but I have videos of me doing it on my channel already..

[@DelanyMusariri]

This will help my tre flips so much

[@whoisnoeyy6304]

I can do the steezy tre like Zac and I have it pretty high but I found it extremely uncomfortable and difficult to tre like Jamie.

[@zukiy.4394]

When you first learn tres it always looks like you don’t have control of it and it just looks like you are just guessing where to land on your board.

[@Dave3rdEyeArt]

Whoa... That's how you can get the extra timing for a lateflip! I have to try this!

[@SadMach1n3]

Thought the vid was gonna show the steezy effortless and the popped high badass looking tre lol

[@shaolinotter]

as long as you can get enough weight on your toe side it doesn't matter if you hang over or not, but obviously it's easier for most people to learn the motion that way

[@lostmyballs4453]

What setup is Irving riding?

[@marconopolo5723]

I remember watching that Janowski video religiously. My Tre flips are done in that style. I can't Varial kickflip or 3 Shuv anymore tho hahaha

[@zadekeys2194]

It's all in the back foot. If you want some height, pop it like a high popshuv, using your front foot to get grip and height.

[@FPVmediaCO]

3:40 is a 360 shove it with style. That’s the prob here. Get yourself a slow mo camera with higher fps to see your board flipping.

[@fernandoreyes680]

When I first learned it I did it with my back foot in the tip of the tail like Jaime. But I started finding it hard to keep it under control when I wanted to do it really fast, especially taking it down stairs. So I slowly started moving my foot to the pocket where everyone puts it. I still do it like Jamie if I try to do it over something

[@exceladon7647]

The only time I've ever gotten solid treflips was from combining Jamie's placement and the recommended placement. My backfoot rests on the edge of the tail and my toes hang off the edge a bit, but my foot is never in the pocket.

[@idonid4417]

Jamie griffin way forces you to pop more / jump higher thus giving a more vertical flip. Much flashier IMO than the standard front foot tre but arguably less practical/ harder to control. I like the second way because it’s reminiscent of a 90s style treflip. (Gorilla toe flip trick knowledge wasn’t probably as wide spread then) more vertical flips in the 90s videos

[@travismorgan8393]

Literally gonna go try it rn

[@RJ-in2sk]

Beanie man has tre's down pact!! I need them like that!!

[@bak1386]

Its all about that scoop baby

[@StoneAquatics]

Fav trick forever 🤘

[@Dave3rdEyeArt]

Ever since I dislocated my knee is have to scoop hard for tres and they're consistent , but idk how Zach Does them like that👏👏👏👏👏

[@dons1932]

I swear a proper 360 flip - which is a 360 kickflip, was always the trick. The one that looks good. People only started calling them tre flips, when people who couldn't do the proper 360 kickflip, were doing these sideways impossible things that look more like 360 shove its. EDIT - the guy filming sounds like young jamie from joe rogan LOL

[@detroitisback8021]

My foot is never that low for a kickflip. Everyone's different of course but I've always had great success with my kickflips much more closer to bolts not on bolts but just slightly a few inches before. You get a perfect pop every time. But ayyy we all learn and do things different. ALWAYS DO WHATS MORE COMFORTABLE FOR YOU!!

[@theowilkinson2831]

I’m the I can’t treflip one

[@svnbit8408]

Say you have tighter trucks, flatter concave and wider/longer tail and trucks that aren't as narrow with more with wheels that are less rounded, hanging off or in the pocket gets your tip in right for the Tre. Loose trucks and more concave on the tail (or even narrower tail) and you're hitting that tipping point easier even popping your tail more centered, you're still gonna be getting that scoop, your mind just thinks you're slowing that flick and rotation down and it all comes together. Try it with different setups, you may need to change less behavior to get the result, if it's more pop, or more scoop. Didn't even mention truck height or rotational mass dynamics of truck weight/width, wheel shape as much. Overthinking it, yeah a bit. Starting to skate soon after 15 years so it's awesome, I'm gonna try everything different with my seriously since I have to embrace the suck anyways.

[@NullBlox]

Im soOooo lost... I dont kick-flip with my foot off the tail, nore do I know anyone personally who does. Really never seen anyone stand like that for any trick until now tbh. As for John saying we have been lied to, I doubt that. It all comes to preference in the end. Having the toe on the side and not center should be what helps you counter balance your flip and flick. If you was already pre leaned into the direction of the flip this would make it harder to do in most cases. Now if you already have ridden a board for a long time you could learn this way. If you started this way I doubt you would understand counterbalancing tricks as much. Imo you learn more from the side toe version than other versions. It teaches you where to apply pressure and why. This throws out those building blocks and is basically a just send it kinda version. I would say there is only 1 360 flip though, So long as the board is kicked with your side toe and popped with teh back foot, then rotate 360 and flip a full revolution. You have a 360 flip. Does not matter how you preform the trick as far as stance goes. Stance is its own topic and should not be used to create multi ways to do a trick. Stance/style and technique are kinda hand in hand.

[@JuriDiesLit]

I always just land with my back foot because the board is always behind me, any tips ?

[@skategoat__9703]

try and lean back more on your back foot. and also try scooping sort of infront of you instead of scooping behind you.Its kind of weird because you end up still scooping behind you but not as much its kind of in the middle of infront and behing you.

[@JuriDiesLit]

@@skategoat__9703 Bro omg thanks helped so much

[@skategoat__9703]

@@JuriDiesLit np bro go get that tre

[@DarmokAtTanagra]

I don't know why but I can't even begin to treflip. At all. I have good kickflips and heelflips, the higher, flat kind. But when I try to treflip the board doesn't flip, or it half flips and lands on top of my foot. It mostly just clumsily spins away from me. I hate them.

[@Hugodra]

Mine always move 1 foot toward my front, can't keep it down ... So it's hard to land them

[@glas5eye]

still working on my tre flips slowly dialing them in landed maybe 2 or 3 ever

[@dj9savy]

It prolly helps Jamie do his tre flip late flip thingys when he does his tres like he does them with massive pop!

[@lewis123]

So much cooler with proper pop

[@brycecarpen1224]

Y’all are all dope but Irving is the dopest cause he ride goofy

[@saffronbandit4764]

He has the worst style

[@Dave3rdEyeArt]

Its a POP tre VS a Scoop Tre , when you scoop it pops at about a 45% angle

[@texshaw5707]

I haven’t landed one yet but I pop mine high I put my back foot off the back and just a little on the side

[@FLTHYFCKGAMING]

Tyshawn jones tre flip undefeated

[@alexnute9818]

This was a dope video guys, I gotta say the foot not hanging off makes the flip look pretty steezy, even if its a lot harder to get into

[@Mal00fNYC]

wait is this warehouse in nyc????

[@gugumatt1]

I feel like it might just be a situational thing....if you need that lil extra pop go for that version, else stick to whatever you are comfy with

[@kakimotoK20]

Zachs tres are buttery. Perfect tre IMO. Effortless and natural, no dangle shit or pop

[@Piequalse]

not high enough to be called perfect

[@kakimotoK20]

@@Piequalse They look fun and that’s why I say perfect. Like Stefan janoski’s. I always wanted those no pop tres but couldn’t do it, but all other tricks I want pop. At one time I could tre pretty good like did one 2nd try down a 7 stair, then lost them trying to learn the no pop and I still never got it. Just lost my consistency was all

[@skatewrld4002]

Why are my treflips almost vertical?

[@iooiioi_un8926]

have you guys heard of Cali-Drop tre flip?

[@stonedme420saugat4]

That who always fall 😫😫😫

[@landummy]

theres the one where you only scoop, and then there’s the people who flick tre flips

[@theowilkinson2831]

How does one flick it hard

[@landummy]

@@theowilkinson2831 is wisdom that i have not acquired, i’ve just seen people flick tres, and it’s weird

[@ImBlackIvy]

I can watch it 1000 times and I still can’t get it

[@Wvsolo12]

I had tres for a month or 2 when I was 17 and had them down so sick , then one day boom.. gone lol ,I tried skating after 12 years off not long ago and couldn't fathom how I ever did them 😂

[@jacobcotton6614]

Adrian Del Campo's tres are like 4 feet high its crazy tbh

[@eugene8325]

Beautiful video

[@mice-elf]

I'm a scooper and I'm too suborn to try it any other way. Actually, I might try one in the front shuv position just for shits.