There's a Marketplace sucker born every day...learn how not to be one

yup we have all seen it...the ridiculous ebay, craigslist and market place ads describing what appears to be a different car entirely than shown. are they delusional, crazy or really believe the car is that good...or is it possible they are just sleezeballs trying to get ur money for a lipstick on a pig car. heres some tricks and tips on what to look for when buying that dream classic car

[@rustedhorsepower5132]

Years ago a friend of mine found his dream car a 71 cutlass on craigslist. Rented a trailer from UHaul and took a 4 hour drive...only to see all the things yhe guy hid in the pictures and luckily come back home empty handed. On the flipside, i came across a 12 bolt rear end for my car (im a Chevelle guy) market place. The guy was very generous and actually very happy that a 69 12 bolt housing was going back to a 69 Chevelle. He not only took the cover off and drained it before hand to show the gears and the posi, he also gave me new royal purple gear lube. He threw in an extra set of 4.56 gears and some 66 chevelle trailing arms he had no need for. He even shortened my trip by a few hours meeting me half way. So yeah, there are good and bad ones out there.

[@danpatterson8009]

And I'll bet that in no point in your negotiations with the parts guy did you say anything like "It's not worth that much." or "Don't waste my time."

[@rustedhorsepower5132]

@@danpatterson8009 yeah...i didnt even haggle his price. It was what i wanted, and i wasbjust happy he hadnt sold it yet.

[@CamaroAmx]

At this point, they are unubtantium. A quick search on marketplace within 100 miles of me and the cheapest 1968-1970 charger I could find was $13,500. And it made this one look restored.

[@nikoladamjanovic2313]

And you can get a drivable solid challanger 340 ta challanger for 40k. That you can drive and have fun with

[@DavidRoss-hd3rv]

Unobtanium? I live in Perth, Western Australia, and in my garage? I have a plum crazy, 440 roadrunner. Running, registered, cost me $32k not perfect, but a rare beast. Proud of it. And have lots of documentation. I got lucky. U can too. Keep looking👍. There still out there🙌

[@DavidRoss-hd3rv]

Ps… it’s a 73. And yes, I have dealer details of a warranty swap engine, cos it was born a 400. 👍

[@Cave_Monkeys]

I hate those people who don't even put a price for what they want to sell just to hope you offer them a better price than they got in mind.

[@marshallgibson8872]

I know what I got, no low ballz

[@Cave_Monkeys]

@@marshallgibson8872 exactly

[@danpatterson8009]

What they have in mind is the most someone will pay. If you want to know what they'll take for it, make an offer and find out.

[@Cave_Monkeys]

@danpatterson8009 how about let's not waste each other's time. If you're afraid to put a price tag, then don't sell it. Plain and simple. Or just say the price is there but negotiable is possible

[@Freedomquest08]

I skip anything that doesn't post a price. I see it as trolling. If it's a juicy 'I forgot more than everyone else knows' attitude in the ad, I will offer $1.

[@mrchevy7892]

Chris, you just created the first ever "general lock jaw"..😂😂

[@sparksfireandbalingwire8467]

Nothing like driving hours to find exactly what Chris showed.

[@bobd1805]

Priceless. Now if you could do a segment on "Ran when parked" that would be your crown jewel of bogus claims videos.

[@ronaldhellengreen7063]

Hey Chris thanks for pointing this out! Because there are so many people who don't know how SHITTY some people are on the market place! PEACE ✌️

[@anamegoeshere]

i bet most of them are black and from the hood

[@pdiz]

I'm also tired of seeing a car for sale, gets sold, then reappears for sale by the new owner with nothing changed, not even the registration/paperwork, asking $10-15K more... Damned flippers. Can't anyone just appreciate an old Mopar without trying to make a buck and driving up the prices because now everyone else thinks that's the going rate. Ah well.

[@biff3917]

I like when it reappears a day later with a whole shopping list of "new Parts"

[@plainbrownwrapper9688]

I saw that Charger on Marketplace. I could just tell from the photos that car was seriously structural comprised. I laughed when it said "has some rust". Welp the scumbags always get another one.

[@invicta6110]

I GUARANTEE there are people using this as an instructional video! 🤣

[@scottsmith6846]

Hey Chris thank you for the video and Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your whole family

[@fyrbyrd71]

"White meant it was coming. Brown meant it was going." Walking that line of the age restriction algorithm aint easy...

[@davidkeefer6850]

I worked for a guy in the '90s that wrote the book on car scamming. He had me take a bottle of trans fluid and a rag and wipe down the chalky yellow factory paint on a '70 Coronet R/T to make it shine for the pictures. He sold a '67 GTX as running and driving. Before the transporter arrived to pick it up. I had to install a 440 and 4 speed in the car and get it running. The carb leaked, the spark plugs I had to dig out of the junk pile. (He wouldn't put a cent in the car). I got it running kinda. It sounded like a '63 VW beetle and didn't have enough power to pull itself on the transporter. I could go on and on with stories.

[@Wbfuhn]

1st rule when buying. Don't buy without seeing in person. 2nd rule when buying. Don't get strung around. 3rd rule when buying. Always get a friend. 4th rule when buying. Get the sellers information.

[@georgemattar1705]

There's a 70 blue RT sitting on a farm in upstate NY just rotting. I stopped to look at it a few years ago. It was buried in 2 feet of snow. Gonna fix it up some day.

[@bbo40]

Is that what the owner said ?

[@sadie376]

"I know what I've got here, so don't try to lowball me"...

[@bbo40]

Happened to my buddy over 10 years ago. Put a large down payment on a International Scout on his cousin's account. Dude who was selling it put a ton of pictures up; but managed to avoid or 'camouflage' most of the bad stuff ! When he drove 2 hours with a car trailer to look at it, his cousin convinced him to just buy it because of the hassle of trying to get back the down $$$$$ and the cousin did not want a "black mark" on his reviews ! To this day the truck has never seen the road !!!!!

[@jmendo2546]

You Remind's me of the movie "Used car's" with Kurt Russell, u probably have a Mile of car's at all the propertie's

[@AbhijeetSingh-ws1fc]

Nice video ❤.. Good and entertaining.... And at same time useful video. Yes sir.. I'm saved from buying the car with bad floor because you taught me how to check it before buying.. Liked it 🙏.

[@miguelpaixao1317]

Yep.. Here in Europe they do the same. Thanks for reminding!! Several methods to earn a couple of thousands 😂

[@williamstamper442]

7:11 Chris you are a True artistl! The way you busted out that very accurate and even 01 rattle can number application makes me wonder if i haven't seen your artwork before....maybe on the side of a railroad car?

[@P-61B_Black_Widow]

Would love a 70 Charger project car, biggest issue no where to work on it.

[@shawnmason5290]

In 1983 I saw an ad for 72 Chevy truck parts. It was the good stuff like a door tailgate small chrome rear bumper. I dropped what I was doing that day and drove my three-quarter ton four-wheel-drive about 45 miles to grab these parts that were a very good deal as described. When I got to the small town north of Bloomington, Illinois, Kyle, the seller raised the garage door and confidently showed them to me. I don’t think I was there three minutes and I had to get the crap out of town before I got arrested. In 1999 I bought that towns small dying Chevrolet dealership, and Kyle was my parts manager that I inherited. In vengeance, I fired him in the first few days of ownership.

[@PoppinACap22]

Cool?

[@sludge8506]

@@PoppinACap22 Delusional. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@M_Phipps0520]

It’s not just the cars it’s also auto parts, I see tires that are 6-7 or more years old and they are wanting a premium price for them! It’s just ridiculous!

[@JT-un7dc]

This man's probably my favorite KZbinr

[@danpatterson8009]

It takes some gumption to not get turned off by all the scammers in this hobby. Asking prices for these cars have gone nuts, that doesn't help. Rattle-can paint job in the engine bay? Seen it.

[@DavidRoss-hd3rv]

Joe Dirt u ain’t! But…👏👏👏…. Very honest and informative to those who get screwed . 👍👏👏👏

[@colorwashcarsandguitars]

I was hunting for a 74 Torino last yr and found one on market place about an 1hr 1/2 away from home. All the pics looked great. Guy even sent me a video of the car. The video must have been from about 10 yrs ago because there was a hole in the roof next to the back glass so big I could stick my entire arm through. The interior was completely covered with mildew and both b pillars were completely gone.

[@hurtlocker6611]

This is my favourate Charger, 70 i love the chrome grille, door scoops, rear tailight chrome package, other than that 68 - 70 are all the same with little differences but i love all 68 - 70 Chargers.

[@ToriL97]

There's a 70 charger on marketplace in my area that's sitting in the ground basically. The floors and frame rails are gone from the firewall back. They still want quite a lot of money for it. I guess the good thing about these cars is they make so many panels for them but that one probably would be better for yard art.

[@jeffrobodine8579]

Sounds like there is nothing left to bolt any panels to.

[@Jimschrbr]

Listen, just because you rattle can spray paint your engine doesn't mean that it hasn't just had $10,000 worth of machine work done to it, some people tend to lose their receipts you know! 😳

[@RustyZipper]

I spent $20k on my last rebuild, I’d let the engine go for no less than $3500 because I lost the receipts….I also made my first million dollars by trading Bitcoin, send me $1000 and I’ll share my secrets 🤫

[@paulcraven4652]

You forgot the free washers and dryers that go with it ha great video thank you

[@petergoodwin2465]

Australia has plenty of scammers to. Still rebuilding my wifes fully restored 67 impala.

[@roberthirshfield3571]

I love it when you looking for parts for a car say a mustang just because it a common part that would fit a Shelby it’s 100 percent more money

[@JoeBilello1969]

I would NEVER buy anything i cant see and/or inspect 😮

[@stucook8622]

Thanks for the cool video....Merry Xmas.

[@chadvetter8190]

Before the internet, the old adage was NEVER BUY A CAR SIGHT UNSEEN. Lol

[@rlkillion]

On the flip side you put up something, describe it well, put up all the pictures allowed and get inundated with “Is this still available?” And nothing further, unless they are an obvious scammer, with a new or stolen account, the 3 people who are real and respond, don’t read the ad or look at pictures and then bombard you with questions that are already covered in ad…then offer you something stupid in trade, lowball lower than scrap value, or tell you they will take it and never show up. Market place sucks, shows you whatever, wherever, no matter what search terms you put in then when you report the scammers….they don’t do anything about it. But what options do you have with Craigslist and local trading posts all dead?

[@scottvincent3062]

Also when they hose off the outside and interior then take the pictures when it's still wet to make the faded paint and sun scorched vinyl interior look better.

[@randalltrowbridge9631]

Bought a truck once at night dead of winter. 17° outside 30mph winds. Ad said zero rust looks runs great. Did a quick test drive seemed great. Paid 4 grand. Drove it home only 1 bolt holding the bed on each side. The underbracing was completely gone from rust on 3 of the bedrails. Learned to not trust anyone and actually look them over well after that day.

[@TorqueKMA]

Lol theres someone in my local market trying to sell bbf 460 heads he very obviously rattle canned. Used a grey to make it look like metal... problem is he also sprayed the valves and lifters lol

[@GeorgiaRidgerunner]

its good to finally see people showing what marketplace is a festering $#!+hole full of worthless resellers sitting on the site all day snatching up the fair priced items to resell at ridicolous prices ive never purchased anything from marketplace literally everything that i wanted to buy when i asked about it i got its sold was only up 15 minutes before it sold or no i got somebody on the way to look at it then a few hours later the item is relisted at 2 3 or 4 times the original sellers asking price

[@mikebrown8065]

I think my favorite part is when the camera man zooms in on the manual steering box and your right hand glows with the orange dots from the engine paint 😅😂😂😂😂😂

[@davidforbes7972]

His still pissed off from selling the grill on eBay where that guy and eBay screwed him over Saying that this is a good episode pointing out what all these flops try to do to make more money and screw us over

[@RC-tn8iz]

Still would love to have that charger even with the rust (sorry dents)

[@garypacholek8070]

I'm well aware of what goes on in marketplace and eBay, but this should be very helpful to those people that do not. Okay, so in your opinion what would it cost to redo this particular car ? I know you have the talent and expertise and knowledge of the parts cost, so in your honest opinion a ballpark price? By the way I have learned quite a bit from watching your restoration videos. I really like how you go in depth with your descriptions of how and why you do what you do. Thanks so much.

[@danpatterson8009]

All depends on whether you do it yourself, pay someone to do it for you, or something in between.

[@TwoDollarGararge]

Depends on your skill level. In what you're willing to do.

[@joshuacampbell9990]

Hey you’re giving away my secrets!! Just kidding lol. The junk I’ve sold off I’ve always been honest about it. That’s always been my secret. I’ll rip out crap carpet to show EXACTLY what kind of floors are in the car. Granted I might give them a coat of paint on good floors that might have pinholes here and there but I always point it out. If the seats are torn up I throw a blanket over it to keep my clothes from getting dirty or torn when I drive the pile but I tell prospective buyers it’s junk under there that needs attention. Unless the car doesn’t have a power train I like them to run and stop when I’m selling them and I’m honest about that as well. I’ll straight up say I threw a junk engine/transmission in to make it move under its own power because I was tired of pushing it. Same goes for body work. Even though I do paint and body for a side gig, I don’t normally touch cars that aren’t staying on the fleet. If anything if it was primered when I got it and it’s looking tired I’ll give it a fresh coat of the cheapest primer to make it look better and then admit about it. I’ll go around and let people know what I think needs replaced and what probably can be saved. I’ve had many cars that looked good from afar but were far from good due to all the filler that was in them and I have told buyers to either enjoy it for what it is or expect to find all kinds of sins under that paint that was there when I got it. Due to me being honest about the junk I’ve come across through the years I have some guys who have bought/traded with me quite a bit. Most of the crap I’ve had I bought/traded for it, played with it for a little while, then shipped it off to someone else to enjoy. I’ve never made a fortune with it but I can say I’ve had some cool old cars and that’s the fun of hot rodding to me.

[@spencermclean2711]

Hell I'll buy it of ya with that sale spiel...and I live in the uk 😂😂 sounds a great deal and that is so hard to find these days and a honest seller...I'll sort out payment and shipping 😂😂😂😂

[@zeth15943]

I felt this In my soul Facebook market place is ridiculous anymore lol

[@Mercmad]

I have a really crappy merceds here a young guy bought from an online auction for 15,000 . It had a burnt out engine bay . Really sucked in over that pile .

[@mrpurcountry]

Hilarious video Chris, but seriously true of some sellers.

[@bangs2ndshotgarage865]

Yep I’ve ran into a lot of crap like that. Even when you think you know everything to look for and check there’s always someone that will teach ya something new after the fact. What are u askin on this Charger?

[@Nichole-440HP]

You’re good guy Chris thanks for lookin out

[@braddocksgarage]

"Backseat is big enough for extra bang'n action" indeed it is

[@D4VE26]

Love it chris!!!! Funny how this shite is known to true car guys but SOoooo many people do it and fall for it! U got any chargers u wanna sell me? Im in uk and want to ship one over n trust you!!

[@lukearnold23]

These scammers who sell cars like this (which seems like a lot more nowadays) has lead to the drastic rise in prices plus having them be popular in film like Dukes of Hazzard or Fast & Furious. Can’t tell u how many times I see a 1968-1970 Charger jacked in price bc the seller puts “same car as used in Fast & Furious”. Supra owners of the Mk4 Generation understand. Look @ the Cudas prices before & after they put 1 in a fast & furious movie then in a John Wick movie

[@ironmulesmc786]

I can’t believe you have firewood where there’s no trees in sight for miles! There’s the money! 300 bucks a face cord!

[@marshallgibson8872]

When it comes to a 1970 charger, take my monies

[@Sansoloz]

I remember when the actual Fastfurious 70 ramp car had no takers at 13k, damaged but all there.

[@bens1019]

Forgot the newspaper and fiberglass resin trick

[@RustyZipper]

Best to take pictures in the dark and from 50’ away, and only 2, sideways

[@dark_one1337]

I have to admit I didi the Ducktape framerail repair once on my Car for a DOT didn't got it, sold it (the body of the car was junk) the Interior was mint I swapt it out as I got it because inside matched outside as I got it, the Engine was great rebuild Seals and bearings Intercooler and Turbo also injection pump rebuilt with better injectors, no rattle can job on here, so what I sold was bassically the Engine Tans in a "shipping cradle" forma called car. btw. an honest price for that charger would've been 10K since it's nr. matching, It has an engine with head, intake, carb and trans, it has seats console dash all the trim and glass from the looks of it, all the body pats (even though they're junk). I was looking for an 68 as I started my apprenticeship, about 15 years ago, and back then a 318 champange coloured, automatic console car with tan interior was about 2k, complete car but floors gone.

[@williamward7707]

Thanks for the information....

[@NicksMintScaleReplica]

I got scammed one time on a 73 Barauda 360 couple years back. Car looked kinda great and a good deal from the pictures of course, ''running'' (yeah puking oil and ran on 6 cylinders) and of course seller was good at pictures angle! This Baracuda was 1500 miles away, so I got it delivered and oh my!!! It wasn't event on my driveway that I knew it was worst then I thought! Put it this way....if I were to acid dip or sandblast everything....only the top didn't need replacing. EVERYTHING else had rust hole, all frame rails were junk, firewall etc... EVERYTHING...The only good that it was ''complete'' and did ran enough to move it around. I ended losing like over 5 or 6K. I tried to work on it and be optomistic about fixing it, but it was way big of a project. Could have sink 60K in new parts and bunch of time, but at the end of the day, it didn't worth it. Sold it with full disclosure about everything's wrong. Took the lost and moved on.

[@DavidRoss-hd3rv]

😂😂… junkerup cars! Honest as the day is long…. ‘ so c’mon son, make me an offer🤦‍♂️🤔😂😂😂👏👏👏👏👏👏….👏

[@egodeathplease]

I'm looking at what available these days for old car bodies n thinking it might be easier get access to one of these car factories being shut down n start stamping them our again?

[@craigculver2855]

…child support to two of my cousins…. I’m using that!

[@kokoshadowstryder9020]

"Car ran perfect when it was parked."

[@bradleymadosh911]

Lmao yaou are so crazy 😂 you have to make more of these videos you had me Rolling.

[@davesaylor5135]

Good job on the body work I hope I get that good some day jed could use that grille for jessabel have a good one

[@muppetmk1]

Overseas buyers!!! Buy one locally they’re much cheaper than the USA !! , I picked up a road legal ‘69 superbee for £18000 ( $23000 usd ) , it’s presentable and I take it to shows , I use it and enjoy it 👍

[@junkerup]

Nice, but superbee doesn’t have the valve of a charger in comparison

[@-Barracuda-426]

😂😂😂😂80.000€ car now Ps so this one was the big block 4 speed woow cool man😎💪🏻👍🏻

[@richardbrowne3641]

🤣😅🤣😂🤣!!!! It won't sell! 😂🤣😅🤣😂 Thanks for the Edgeumacation on scammers!❤ Green means go? That 1970 Dodge Charger R/T car ain't going anywhere! 🤣😂😅🤣😂 I'll give you $800.00 where it sits!😅 It's way too far gone!😂🤣😅🤣😂 "ASHES TO ASHES, RUST TO DUST!"😂😅🤣😂 "YOU GOT SCAMMED, CHRIS!"

[@junkerup]

You need to catch up on charger values it’s not 1995 anymore

[@ratchetrestos]

Haha, I love it. I literally was attempting to go see that car.

[@JohnBarr-ys9zl]

Chris, you forgot to mention AMD sells the replacement sheet metal, so you can end up with. Barrett Jackson retirement piece. Most of the Marketplace jokers like to remind potential buyers of how easy it is to inform us how it’s done. The very reason they never tackled the project themselves. Marketplace is a tough place to do business.

[@mysterycomment1553]

You act like Chris doesn’t buy/sell/flip/build chargers as well. He’s literally basically making a living off of charger hype.

[@JohnBarr-ys9zl]

It was a joke. Just like the vid..... I’ve been following Birdsong for many years.

[@walden_racing73w]

I'm more interested in the Stock Car in the background

[@cameronreeves8965]

Thanks Chris!

[@bceinvestor]

Hilarious!! Keep the videos coming!!

[@kurtdavis7588]

The main problem is poor people trying to get into the Classic car game. If you don't have the money to completely restore the vehicle and it not effect your bank account then you shouldn't be doing it. I've sacrificed and worked hard to be at this stage in life but now you have everyone complaining that they deserve to be in the game. This isn't the hobby for people who can't afford six figures on a hobby.

[@TheCptTrenchfoot]

The wheels wouldn't fall off because it's got heavy duty hemi torsion bars in it

[@farmhand6524]

Yep it bees like that sometimes

[@jakeg83]

Damn, who pissed in Chris’s Cheerios today?

[@charlesmiller7139]

This has the feel of beetleguise😂

[@Darryl-69SE]

I so miss all the 2nd gen charger videos!!!!!?

[@garyjust.johnson1436]

I would buy that! Sold!

[@maxfastest]

If it's a popular vehicle that lots of folks are trying to get. I steer clear of them. I can get by on a less popular version.

[@craigwalker4211]

You should start a franchise, kurb side motors incorporating bodgeit & legit , never knowingly under priced. Is our motto. Warrentee til you get off the property Extended warrentee til end of the street. Overhead conshaft,fool injection

[@LunaTic-fy9ve]

Hi, is this item still available?

[@Mark-vd8oi]

A BRO. DID U BUY THAT CAR FROM NICK PICK NICK ... HE GETS STUFF JUST LIKE THAT...SOME BETTER SOME WORSE. WE LOVE ALL YOUR CONTENT... N YOU DERSEVE TO GET THESE CARS BECAUSE YOU FIX N DRIVE EM... N ALL CHARGERS N ROAD RUNNERS N DARTS DUSTES. ECT. R BAD. ASS DONT FORGETT LOTS OF DODGE PLYMOUTHS. TRUCKS..EVEN A 49 50 STUIBAKER TRUCK WOULD BE KOOL

[@Xocolatben]

POR-15, the hiders choice!

[@joacimabinger5455]

Hahaha, Hemi six-pack 383! 🤣

[@robertrusnak620]

Did you know that putting flames on the front end of any car adds a minimum of 150 hp ? Fact! 🤣

[@jovanda8364]

Get that tape that sticks to shil really good lol

[@scottkellogg8145]

I zoom in regardless

[@A.R.American1]

Great video

[@dirksichveland7801]

Do you offer any financing?

[@lifeafterrelease]

always see marketplace saying "carb needs cleaned"

[@edvisme]

Market place buyers. Maybe one or two out of a hundred are legit buyers and know what they are looking at when inquiring about a vehicle. I recently listed a very nice, freshly repainted first generation S Ten pick-up truck. So many commentors on my ad picking it apart and saying it's priced too high. Way too many clowns on there want something for nothing and always have some smart-ass remark about the item for sale. No offence, this charger here is a good parts car for someone in need of some of those hard to find seventy charger pieces.

[@RonNorman-ie1nv]

So nice I had to watch it twice

[@vaughnsspeedshop7148]

There is this guy and then there is the dude who throws total garbage out there for 10k like he’s proud of it and knows what he has like the guy at goodguys heartland nationals last year