There's No "Right Way" To Pick Your First Motorcycle...

[@spitescorner]

I'm working on some bigger videos for the next two weeks, so today I figured we'd just have a nice little chat. If you enjoyed this video, let me know and maybe we can do some more.

[@billyhenderson9453]

Like, comment, and subscribe

[@na5986]

Good thought video, but it would help to show pictures of bikes you're referring to. I think first bikes vary based on the riders previous experience (are they comfortable with manual transmission, experience with fast cars, experience with maintenance, etc.)

[@brentfellers9632]

I like the shorter vids

[@XenoHCS]

As someone looking to purchase their first ever bike in January this was awesome. I’ll probably get mine from Team Scream down here in Austin , Texas. Thanks brotha

[@ChykenBoB]

Like the casual video feel. Overall just love seeing your videos!

[@Nogood1sleft]

The fact that this is off the cuff and not scripted and still good is the reason this channel is gonna surpass the channel that shall not be named.

[@XeroFailGames]

Yammie noob

[@ericreno8744]

TRUTH!!!

[@minisniper99]

@@XeroFailGames shall not be named bruv

[@660xV7]

Great take, Spite. THIS is what beginners need to hear. As a beginner it’s so easy to get stuck in analysis paralysis. In the end, you just gotta educate yourself as best as possible, and go for it. There’s no substitute for forming your own opinions through experience!

[@hisdadjames4876]

Here’s an example...09.38... ‘What you are going to realise is that every motorcycle is FAST, man. Every bike is so fast!!’😂👍

[@benpielstick]

Just go with a Guzzi so you don't have a chain to clean.

[@Lumpia_In_Texas]

Just buy something inexpensive. Chances are you'll want another bike in 3 mos.

[@billygraham2132]

Wrong. The best beginner bike is a dirt bike. Learn to react to low traction situations. Learn how not to wash out the front. Learn how to use your body weight. Learn how to ride standing on your pegs. Low stakes learning helps you gain confidence and doesn’t punish mistakes nearly as badly. . There isn’t anyone reading this comment who learned on a dirt bike and who rides street bikes who will say that their dirt skills saved their bacon at least once. Am I Right? . Doesn’t work in every situation but there IS a best beginner bike: a dirt bike.

[@GoRideFL]

Couldn't agree more

[@damacknificent151]

Congratulations Spite, you're doing good on your channel 👏 at this rate you'll be over 100k easy by the end of this year.

[@einherjar2545]

The fact that's he's this good solo makes me believe the theory put forth by the internet that there was some jaleousy involved in the yammie x spite situation. I really don't know, just saying.

[@lukewalker1051]

@@einherjar2545 Spite has game and the other guy who had the rights the channel didn't like it. This is the best thing ever for Spite.

[@dinohuntr851]

I agree. I jumped ship and haven't looked at that other guy's channel ever since. I will stick with the big guy all the way.

[@tonyrobinson3744]

@@dinohuntr851 I'm with ya...👍👍

[@tonyrobinson3744]

Spite will look back on this later and be glad it happened. Best thing ever. I dont go to that other channel anymore. No need to.

[@TheTXRanger]

"I don't have a script, or anything..." This is the heart & soul of this channel. It's not scripted; it's simply authentic. This is what your best friend would tell you if you asked them: no hype, no BS, no fluff. It's the thoughtful stuff you want / need to know. This is where Spite really shines. He knows what he's talking about and knows how to communicate it in an accessible way that doesn't insult the viewer's intelligence. Thanks, Spite!

[@brian636]

Good to see ya land on your feet.🫡

[@christiankrippler9162]

At the age of 52, I went and took the MSF course back in June 2022, I started looking at bikes prior to taking the class and chose the Bonneville T120. Just passed 3400 miles in a little over 3 months. I commute every day to work as long as there is no rain in the forecast and have no regrets with my choice. Thanks Spite for your enduring hard work!

[@snakeman9902]

Great story, great bike choice 👍👍

[@hvymax]

I always recommend the smallest/cheapest thing you can stand to be seen on for the first year. It makes learning experiences less painful at least when it comes to the bike anyway. A dual sport can help learn how to handle drifts and slides which can save you on road. Not to mention that they're made to be dropped and jumped. Remember that it's more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow.

[@MadBlazer89]

Best advice for any beginners starting anything. You're a beginner, don't over-stress yourself too much.

[@dondavis7329]

Great unscripted unbiased commentary. You keep putting out good content.

[@bodney_bojangles1137]

Literally on my way to get my first bike - an SV650. What great timing. This is just what I needed to hear

[@spitescorner]

Enjoy it!

[@papatorr3669]

Great choice. I could write a chapter on your choice. Been riding 47 years, have a small Barn full of bikes. Be safe and have fun!

[@bdubb4684]

Probably the best decision you could have made. That is a bike that can entertain for years

[@SlimTony]

Hey, thats my first bike aswell! A used 2016 one for me. Just remember not to wheelie it for too long, it starves the front cylinder of oil.

[@KatInkura]

Absolutely wonderful take, Spite! Just got an older R6 (2003) for my very first bike and as a taller rider at about 6'2" with a 36" inseam, it's a bit cramped! But the ergonomics can be fixed and gearing was super short because the previous owner put a 15/50 sprocket set on it, but I bought a 17t one to replace the 15 and I'm getting clip on risers soon, and adjustable rear sets are on the list too! It even has a power commander 3 USB in it that I ended up zeroing out to better suit a newbie rider like myself. The suspension was definitely set up for performance, so I softened it up and tuned it to my weight and it feels so much better now! My personal takeaway is: get a bike in a general format that interests you be it cruiser, supersport, naked, adv, etc, and tailor it to you! You wouldn't buy a car then not adjust the seat, mirrors, steering column, etc, right? So why wouldn't you also adjust the bike to yourself? Sure it's a little bit more to adjust than just pulling a lever (at least on my R6), but isn't that why we ride? Because we love our bikes and we want to put ourselves into our bikes? Keep it up Spite! You're one of the reasons I decided to start riding! Ride safe, friends!

[@ErikFanninMusic]

49 years old and haven't been on a bike in 30 years. However, I just picked up a KTM 390 Duke in January (after watching Spite review one on that "other" channel) and couldn't be happier! I've done over 5,000 miles in Texas and Oklahoma and she's still making me smile. I'm now looking for something more suited for longer trips. Spite, I'm definitely happy to see you kicking ass and putting out more great content. Keep up the great work!

[@kirkdunn1379]

Was so close to getting the 390....hell of a lot cheaper that's for sure....I just didn't want to switch a few months after...glad I got a bigger bike and like you I rode bikes just not street

[@Patzilla05]

Loved the vid. Really liked the take. The bike doesn't really matter as long as it's doing what you need it to do and your having fun. Really enjoyed the free-form style.

[@karlj1717]

I started on a 125cc and I absolutely loved that little bike, it was slow but it was the world’s best bike because it was mine, now I’ve got my Suzuki bandit and my CBR but I’ll never forget that little 125.

[@Versedian]

Started on a Tenere 700; love the engine and couldn't see myself ever needing more power. SoCal freeways flow of traffic is around 90 and she cruses there with ease and has room to go.

[@dyllonleavingnow1982]

Do ride off road at all?

[@mhoeij]

I agree with your advice, even basic bikes are a lot of fun. The best thing a new rider can do is, just buy something that runs reliably and isn't too expensive. That way you can ride around and not worry that you'll break the bank if you drop it.

[@itssanktime82]

As a slow/multi purpose bike owner (DR650) I love the KLR content. 🤘

[@dmaxcustom]

Agreed with this very down to earth and rational take on beginner bikes. This is the content I like, no matter the displacement or expertise, but down to earth, cause you know, we are just regular folk. My first one was a Kymco Venox 250cc, here in South America. Did a trip of 600km with it and the bike was all over the place and the engine was underpowered, but it did and I have some of the best memories with that piece of crap bike. If I had to it all over again? A KTM Duke 390 hands down. (Unrelated, got me a new Street Triple R XD, happy as a kid on Christmas.)

[@MC_Solbakken]

I started riding this summer, bought myself a indian chief darkhorse as my first bike. 1890cc heavy bike. I love it. I passes my drivers test and got my mc drivers license in september. Rode 700km before i had to park it for the winter here in norway. I have no regret starting on a heavy bike like it.

[@jacobcline4536]

😲

[@celticwarrior916]

Love this style of content. I took the MSF and got my license, but have been watching channels like yours to learn good tips and figure out what bike I want (stalling and saving up). So glad you are able to focus on great content like this now without the juvenile antics and showboating distractions at the last channel. Keep up the awesome work!

[@Firestorm637]

I have been riding 60 years on dirt and street. The lighter the bike with controllable horsepower. Weight can scare you as a newbie as well as too much power. Take a MSF course. Take as many courses even advanced courses as possible. If you opt for a larger first bike that is recommended make sure it has stability control with TC and ABS. Could help out if hit a wet spot, gravel or oil spot on road as a newbie. Enjoyed ur video

[@HalfDeafRider]

Great vid Spite 🤘🏻 I've always loved bikes, my old man, uncles n even my grandpa rides. I finally started on a little 125 early this year, it was all i could afford but honestly, riding a 125 is still a lot more fun than waiting for the bus 😂

[@FirinMahLazer1]

I appreciate this sentiment. I was told by everyone to not get a small bike and "get something you can grow into". Ultimately I didn't feel confident enough to purchase a bigger bike and decided to get a small CC bike to learn on and grow my confidence. Now that definitely has its pitfalls but the point is, get what you feel comfortable on and don't let people convince you to get something you don't actually want because you feel like you have to.

[@cowgirlonchrome7416]

I was told this same thing. In fact my hubs had bought me a nice sportster about 12 years back for me to learn on. It had been sitting in the building waiting on me all those years but it was just too big, heavy and powerful for me to learn on. It was way too intimidating for me. I'm petite 94lbs 5'2" so I requested a little dirt bike (100) first then, we bought a Honda Rebel 250 for me to ride on the street and that was a game changer! I rode it everywhere I could and my confidence soared. I still have both of my learning bikes because I just can't part with them. It's so much fun learning to ride a slow bike fast rather than trying to ride a faster bike slow. 😜 I hopped on my rebel 2 weeks ago and honestly it was really a little scary to me at 65mph because my Sportster is so much bigger, heavier and definitely feels way more stable. I was thinking dang, it took more nerve to ride the Honda at high speed than I had remembered. 😝

[@thumperspot]

Great video Spite, and absolutely correct. It’s more about having fun with what you have and want. I started on a Shadow 750 and quickly grew out of it, but at the time it was the beginner bike for me because I wanted to have something with a comparable design and ergonomics to a Road King or Street Glide without the added 300lbs and $25,000 new price tag. I’ve since moved to a Rebel 1100 (thanks largely in part to your content and commentary on it over at YN), and I couldn’t be happier. It’s the bike that makes me smile when I ride. Keep up the great work!

[@dinohuntr851]

My friend has her first bike and it is a shadow 750. She is looking into the rebel 1100. I assume you are happy with every aspect of your new bike?

[@thumperspot]

@@dinohuntr851 not every aspect, no. I don’t think any bike can do that. For instance, the forward reach is a tad too much for my size so I’m going to add bar risers in the spring, the aftermarket still needs some time to catch up, stuff like that. But in every way that counts, it’s a vastly superior bike that suits me very well. I don’t regret a single thing about buying it

[@bootch82]

@6:43 preach. “No matter what motorcycle you get, you won’t be like ‘I regret this’… whatever you get it’s on two wheels and you’re going to have fun” You never forget when you first start out and the feeling of excitement, freedom, and interaction with your surroundings - things looking and sounding different. It’s one of those things where you only truly know how happy it makes you feel until you do it. Can ride anything anywhere and it’ll still be fun.

[@trailruntim]

Love the "Conversation With Spite" format. I've been riding almost 2 years and fortunate to ride almost 30 different bikes. But I've yet to buy my first bike. Currently leaning towards an ADV style like a Tiger 800 XC. But I've also fallen in love with older BMW sport touring bikes like the R1100S and the K1200S.

[@markhingst5368]

The K1200 is a great bike, has some quirks but they sure are a weapon.

[@trailruntim]

@@markhingst5368 I had the chance to put several miles on a k1200s on the twisty roads in SW Virginia recently. While riding it I thought it would be an absolute great giveaway as a modern classic bike over on that other channel.

[@tonyrobinson3744]

Great advice Spite. It's all about getting one in your price range and size and going from there. Really doesn't matter where you start. JUST START.

[@RadicalLinguisticDescriptivism]

This is really good advice that I hope people getting started can take to heart. Don't over think it and get all bogged down in spec sheet stuff. Take the MSF, get a bike that you like and go riding. Miles of smiles await you! I started on a CBR650f and its been a blast. Fast enough to scare you but handles pretty well and is comfy enough for a long ride. Its the fully faired version of the CB650 so if you like the naked look, go that route instead. I had previous dirt bike experience so I felt like a 650 was ok. If you don't have that, maybe do stick to the 400cc sized bikes for your first go. Also, if you don't know how to ride a bicycle...learn that first. Then get a motorcycle. Great video Spite.

[@KapitanPisoar1]

Agreed, start on bicycle, then dirt bike and after that 600ish bike, that's how I started and can only recommend.

[@YooperDanKulka]

Spike im a 68 yrs old yooper Dan and I had the same thing happened to me. 1975 Ford F-150. $200. Insurance Month plus $100. For gass. Never had a ticket or speeding. I watched you and what you said about a Kawasaki z 400 2022. So I got one. 54 mpg top speed of 110 & $525. Full coverage insurance. I'm with you guys all the way!!!!

[@jasonvaillancourt775]

Nice, it is so easy to get bogged down looking at all the different styles. My first street legal was a DR350, after a 25 year break, I just got my second first bike. After much over analysis I ended up with a Ducati Scrambler and it is an absolute blast! Keep it up Spite, happy to see you putting out your own content!! It has been fun to be a part of you finding your voice.

[@Kanttila]

The best tip I got was "Get what you think you like and if you don't like it, you can get another one". I started riding at older age and knew I'd like to tour some, daily drive some and have little vrooom now and then. My first bike was Yamaha FZ1-S GT. My second bike was Dyna Street Bob with big bore kit and some other tinkering, making it 100whp cruiser. Third bike BMW K1600GT. I still own all of three. They're all different, they all serve a purpose and I am lucky enough to be able to have all of them. The FZ1 was just the right bike for me: nimble, easy to ride, but still has nice amount of power if needed. It's not too small frame for me, but still compact and fun. I did google, watch videos and in the end of the day went for that bike even though it was considered a first class ticket to afterlife. It wasn't. The thing in my opinion is to be honest to yourself. Can you contain yourself, do you have self control to responsibly use the POWAH? What you want from motorcycle and riding? And remember you can always get another one if your first choice was not just right. As Spite said, it is good to watch all those videos to get input and thoughts from other people and learn from their choices. They are approaching this thing from tyheir perception, which might differ from yours. You can still learn and find good tips. My biggest regrets is the fact I didn't get something like XT660, KLR or similar offroad capable bike. I thought they lack in power so much they suck and are not fun for me. ...and now one of the most fun days riding for me has been the day I got to ride backroads with a 2006 Yamaha XT660.

[@paulruth83]

I'm certainly not a new rider, I think my first one was a Kawasaki 250 street bike around 1969/70 but really enjoy your style and attitude about how you come across for the newbies. You're really doing a good job with your new channel, CONGRATULATIONS.

[@MrAmoRay]

i still consider myself a re-starter. had a bike growing up till i was 17, then for some reason or another, i stopped. last year, november to be exact, i took the safety class from a harley dealer. and i got started on a street 750 like you. i now have an iron 883 because of the 'cool' factor. and my reason to starting over, i'm now 60 and i recall the feeling i had when i rode a bike. also, i needed to slow down from work and get away from the stress. so i got my smile back.

[@Sir_Fray]

I've been riding for maybe 2.5 months and started on a duke 390. would definitely recommend it and I'm having a blast!

[@martyaquino7849]

I started on a Duke as well as a daily commuter. going 2 years next April. loving it more

[@JOEBOWERY]

I wanted a Ninja 250, However my dad made me start and stay on an 883 for four years, I was already doing 100%-legal base -jumps and parachuting and had grown up riding dirt when I started street. When my wife started I bought her the BMW G310R. Take your time,* everyone that made fun of me has quit riding* However I Am just better and better after 20-years in a row of injury free street riding. I ride about 7,000 miles a year, all for recreation only YMMV. Start with health insurance, bike insurance and a good attitude, watch how many quit over your first ten years in the sport...

[@rotorhead5000]

Gospel. For some people it's tough to figure out what you want out of a bike. My wife is a great example, I actually put up a video a month or so ago talking about my wife's journey to her little tw200. She spent years not liking the rebel 250 I picked up for her. Now she has the tw and actually enjoys it, and I'm really excited for her about it.

[@papatorr3669]

I love my TW200 and I have over four decades of riding and a couple dozen bikes. BTW, the first gen Rebel 250 is on my ten worst motorcycles list! Yes it's that bad. But the Nighthawk 250 was a great little bike. Indicates that buyers may value looks over function. I owned an 86 Shadow and an 06 Shadow. After two decades the only improvement was looks, the 86 was better in every other metric.

[@rotorhead5000]

Yup, the rebel wasn't necessarily chosen out of a wide array of bikes, it was a friend of hers was selling it dirt cheap, and my wife is short, and wanted to learn how to ride. Seemed like a no brainer at the time. Turns out she hated it, and now many years later, likes the tw and is stoked to get into riding.

[@papatorr3669]

@@rotorhead5000 Thanks for not taking it too hard. No harm meant or done. If you guys end up getting her a street bike, you can't beat the 450 class twin's seat heights and weight for beginners. But since she'll have experience you can consider the 450 - 650 Twins. Cruisers tend to address the lower seat height best. I'm gonna dust the TW off and take it for a spin today.

[@rotorhead5000]

I didn't see it as a diss, the rebel 250 is terrible. The comparison between it and the tw perfectly showcases that at the end of the day, the spec sheet is pretty meaningless. The rebel on paper as a beginner bike is great, in the world however, it's terrible in every way. The tw on the other hand, is terrible on paper, but when you actually ride it, it's awesome.

[@papatorr3669]

@@rotorhead5000 Thanks. The MSF chose well as the Rebel 250 is an excellent parking lot bike, where they train. I've been ridiculed for the TW but it punches way above its Agricultural rating. I would switch to slightly taller gearing if I needed to ride at two lane highway speeds. It's not up to Interstate highway demands. But it out climbs my XT225 at trail way speeds. And is very forgiving through ruts and rocks. Check out the TDubs kid channel! If you haven't already.

[@vash1986]

I started on my Dads 2006 Ultra Classic. I really miss it more then i thought i would.

[@CaptainJacksIsland]

I started on an Indian Scout and couldn't have been happier. Feels great to sit on and inspires confidence with how effortless everything feels, because it does exactly what you tell it to do without having to fight it or keep it calm. Only other cruiser I'd consider is the Chief they came out with a year or two ago, but not until they make it liquid cooled.

[@hendo337]

That's the bike that got me excited about motorcycles and made me want to ride in 2015. I have been considering Svartpillen 401/701, Scout/Scout 60 or FTR 1200 as my first bike and/or second/third/fourth bike...seems like it would be the perfect stable of bikes with great design, performance, utility and uniqueness.

[@workouvideos]

I started on the yamaha super tenere 1200. I love it. ❤️

[@tinaneilan750]

Mine is a HD Iron 883 … little rough to start as a 4’11 female. I love her though and I’m always gonna keep her. My grandchildren can ride it 😊

[@adamlannerd1408]

"this was my Grandmas Harley, She's a bad ass" 👍

[@kellygrant4964]

First bike as a 1987 Yamaha FZ600. What a wonderful bike especially for a young (20 yr old) to learn on. I learnt how to wrench on it. Rebuilt a lot and repainted it. Hadn't ridden for over 20 years. Now in my mid 50's I am back riding... with a zx14. Going into my second season with it and it is the most amazing machine. Once you get to know yourself later in years I think you have an easier time in selecting that bike you really want.

[@nickmartin5803]

I think the other thing a lot of beginners worry too much about and just forget is that their first bike doesn't have to be their only or last bike ever. When it's recommended to start on a 300, that doesn't mean *only ever* ride a 300 for the rest of your life. You can sell/trade it after 6 months if that's what you wanna do. And heck, starting on a "temporary" bike will also give you an actual feel for the type of riding you like to do/want to try and then your second bike can be the one to do what you actually want to do.

[@nickmartin5803]

@The Screaming Chicken Money seems like all the more reason *to* get a "temporary" bike! Start on whatever you happen to get a good deal on, try not to crash it while you're riding and learning what it is you ultimately want and then make that upgrade to your actual dream bike in smaller increments... Spend $4000 now, sell it for $3000 after a year or two when you've gathered up an additional $4000 to make your second-bike budget $7000. And that way you know that $7000 went to something you know you won't regret. (insert your own budget into the example, but you know what I mean.)

[@jamesballard6564]

It's also worth noting a first timer needs to set aside money for safety gear. Cheap, low cc bikes allow this with relative ease.

[@1990-t1j]

Honda CD175 K3, bought new in December 1971. Gave up motorcycling after two years, then in 1983, I bought a secondhand Yamaha XT500E. I've had bikes ever since. I have never been on a racetrack. It was the prospect of riding down to southern Europe from England that got me back on to bikes back in '83. Sportsters are great bikes. Love the low-down torque. I like the format of this video.

[@djhappydaze]

Great video as always! My first bike is not one of the “beginner bikes” being the Street Bob. But for me the weight is manageable and coming from building and driving multiple high horsepower manual cars, I have respect for HP and torque. So what I was told is if you feel comfortable on it and get your muscle memory down quickly go for it, and I have no regrets.

[@edgemaster1]

Spite, Just passed my Riding Academy class at my local HD dealer in Nov 2021 and got my endorsement. Bought my first bike in June this year (2014 Triumph Street Triple R) and it has been a blast. Prolly not the best choice in beginner bikes but I had a lot of respect for it and at almost the end of my first riding season here in NJ, I can say I have def knocked off the beginner rust. I am far from polished and will keep learning more every day, but I am far from the guy too scared to ride it out of my driveway because it scared the crap out of me, lol. I bought it with just under 1900 miles on it and I am now just about to hit 5000 on the clock. I have had more fun this summer than I think I have ever had in my life.

[@brodi5367]

Love this content, new riders would benefit a lot from this. I raced motocross, went endurocross and hairscrambles. When I wanted a road bike I went to my dealer and without thinking got the MT09SP. While for a first road bike it could have been a lot, the driving modes made it feel like an air cooled trail bike until I was comfortable with it. We are lucky in the age of electronics and smart motorcycles. Pleased with my choice and the bike is great for the city and high commutes I use it for!

[@goodgiver]

I still don’t understand why mt09 is deemed not appropriate as a first bike. I have 3rd gen as my 1.2 bike (I have 2k km with different ~100hp bikes before). Now as I’ve ridden 1k km on mt09 - I could say that is smooth and nice bike to ride. I use mode 1. My Aprilia Shiver 750 is much harder to ride.

[@Turtlefaceful]

Started on an ‘82 Suzuki GS1100E. I was 28, so was the bike, circa 2010. Waaaaaaaaay too heavy! Probably too much power (100ish hp) Bought my example with 12k miles on it, and as the third owner. Would totally do again! That machine taught me so much, in regards to wrenching on bikes. As a survivor, with low miles, ABSOLUTELY everything had to be gone through. Every rubber gasket, intake boot, etc, needed replacing. Plus, I learned how to carburetor! Cleaning, jetting, and modifying a nearly 30 year old full stack of inline four carbs is something every motorcycle enthusiast should suffer through! It builds character!

[@JuzNyc]

I made a list of the bikes I wanted. First was the RC390 but they kept delaying the delivery date of the 2022 models, so ended up with my second choice a R3.

[@armandtdupreez1026]

Just got my first motorcycle about a month ago and I didn't go with any of the original plans I had: Second-hand, ~800cc, cruiser-style Japanese bike... What I ended up with is a brand new, 183cc ADV from SYM (Thai brand). It has ABS, fuel injection, disc brakes, LED lights, USB port, factory warranty... I absolutely LOVE it! Analysis Paralysis is real Keep making the great videos 👍

[@tomoates8568]

You're absolutely right on all your points. I ended up getting a Triumph Speedmaster as my first and I've absolutely loved it! Never failed to put a smile on my face when I ride, literally doesn't matter what bike it is it's just fun to ride. Might trade it in when spring comes around, I really want one of those new Indian Chiefs now

[@MaaZeus]

What year? I got 2005 model as a second bike last summer after my old Suzuki Marauder got totaled by a car driver in a round about (luckily only mild injuries on me). Marauder was decent but holy crap the Speedmaster is amazing and an eye opener what actually good cruiser is like. 👍

[@tomoates8568]

@@MaaZeus Nice! And glad to hear you're doing ok after that crash. I got a 2018 model, found it used last year with only 500 miles on it. I've put about 7 thousand miles on it since then. Yeah it's a great damn cruiser, super smooth!

[@MaaZeus]

@@tomoates8568 Practically new! Good find. 👍

[@jeffblanc6984]

First bike was a Kawasaki 90. Then upped to BSA 650 Thunderbolt. Very much enjoy the "beginner" video.

[@johnpagejr.7628]

Very good advice Spite I agree with you. You just have to take what you have or can get and go for it. People have rode almost every size of motorcycle around the world from 50cc to the largest cc bike made. ya just got to get out there and Do The Thing as Amanda from As The Magpie Fly's always says.

[@guynorkal8194]

You've probably the best beginner's advice I've seen. I watched much back in March of this year as, at age 63, I bought my first bike. I even watched The Channel That Shall Not Be Named and saw the direction it thought best. I was confused at the outlier opinion regarding Royal Enfield. Consequiently, after putting it on my short list I ended up buying the INT650. The salesman I bought it from , did not particularly steer me towards it. His comment that resulted in me returning to purchase that wonderful bike was, "Decide what your motorcycle story is going to be." In many ways, you've said the same in this video.

[@medic3616]

Love your thoughts on this, I have told several people that the right first bike for them is what they like and what they are comfortable with. Personally I had a Ninja 250 that didn't fit, I was uncomfortable and it didn't suit what I wanted to do with a bike so after my MSF course I bought a Harley Electra glide classic and have been putting insane miles on because it is so comfortable.

[@kenbowlus2995]

A few general thoughts for a first bike.... 1) Don't over-analyze it. That just leads to "paralysis by analysis" where you end up not getting anything for a while because you're trying too hard to figure out the perfect bike (which doesn't exist). 2) Buy used, not new. Wait for the new bike until you've been riding for a while, are much more experienced, and have come to a much better understanding of what type of riding you most enjoy and what bike you really want to own for an extended period. 3) Don't be afraid to buy a bike you're not sure about yet (hence rules #1 and #2). I used to say that I didn't "test ride" bikes, I "test owned" them.... 11 bikes over the course of only 8 years, until I truly understood that I most enjoyed carving up the canyons on mid-size sport bikes. Those experiences allowed me sample 1/2 dozen lesser machines as well as to tear it up and thoroughly enjoy two Yamaha RZ350's, two Suzuki Katana 550's, a track prepped GPz 550 that I bought from Keith Code at the California Superbike school in the mid-80's, and a Suzuki GS750ES. Only two of those purchases were new to me off the showroom floor. Just get out there and ride!

[@naripanlilio5443]

I'm down to unscripted format once in a while. Having a 28" inseam, I decided to get a Z125 as my first bike and it was a ton of fun

[@ridenm7748]

28 Inseam meaning the pants you wear or the actual measurement? I'm wondering if I'll fit on one of those. 6ft with short legs lol

[@riccezar]

same here mate! I got a 150 hehe and im loving it! so glad I chose what was best for me to start and glad to see others doing the same.

[@naripanlilio5443]

@@ridenm7748 actual measurement lol try to sit on one if you can and you'll know if it's the one for you :)

[@bassheartstrings]

I have OCD and when I’m stressed out or depressed tend to obsessively fall down these rabbit holes for hobbies/things I wanna pick up. My Grandma recently passed (the funeral was today) and I’ve found myself falling down the motorcycle rabbit hole again after doing it pretty badly during COVID. I think this video will help me take a step back and get some of my free time back. thank you spite

[@swapnilchaudhary2944]

This is exactly what i needed to hear. Im planning on buying my first bike in first half of next year but there aren't many choices where i live so i was kind of feeling down. Thank you

[@tonyrobinson3744]

Just start SC. Everybody moves on from their first bike. It's just for learning.

[@ralphwarom2514]

Bought a 1987 GPZ 400 about 2 years ago. Crazy fun bike. Really fast, looked cool.Then picked up a Honda Shadow. Now going to an 08 cbr 600rr. Loved that first bike. Money is usually the deciding factor on your first bike. But I think having the money for fuel and running around is great. Good luck. Ride safe.

[@Wintersdark]

Love these informal chat sort of videos. This one in particular I think is great for new riders: it's so easy to get wrapped up in Choosing The Right Bike but unless you go WAY over the top, it's hard to choose the wrong one. As you said: everyone looks back fondly on their first bike. Get what appeals to you, and you'll learn more about what you like (and don't like) with it, then you can make a more informed choice for your next bike. Because there'll always be another bike. Not because progression or stupid concepts like that, just because getting a new (at least to you) motorcycle is just the best.

[@Stinkles_]

I guess the KLR is a great bike for delivering measured and informative narratives without a script while leading a group ride! Speaking of Kawi, I’d be super interested to hear your take on the KLX 300 Supermoto if you can get your hands on one. Great video!

[@tonyday113]

I got my license 2 years ago and bought a used 2020 Suzuki SV650. The motorcycle lives up to it's name. I get excited about riding every time. A Fantastic first bike for any beginner.

[@cwroberts79]

Still enjoyable for us old riders. I like hearing the take on someone starting up with this pursuit. Do a video with the Indian challenger.

[@ryuknightofflame]

I got a 2022 CB500F Honda and it's such a fun bike for a beginner. It's not setting any land speed records in the high end but it leans great. Feels stable even in sketch situations. Enough torque to have fun but not so much that a new rider that clutch dumps is going to get suplexed by it. Good fuel economy (gas prices make this bike my daily ride lol). Suspension does it's job very well but isn't adjustable in the front and rear only has preload adjustment. The engine... it's a Honda engine... long lasting but not glamorous. Neutral body positioning makes long rides not require a chiropractor visit after. Can still comfortably tuck. And it has a very accessible seat height for new riders so they don't need to climb the bike to get on. Tall riders beware that this might make this bike uncomfortable to you. Naked bike means easier to work on and less chance of costly repairs when the low speed oops happens. Sight windows are open and doesn't require yoga to check. TL:DR 2022 CB500F is a good beginner bike with few downsides and many strengths. Would recommend for new riders for stability, reliability (wrenching is fun but in moderation), and enough power to have fun and learn without going from 0 to mach Jebus into a horsepowerd suplex because you aren't a throttle and clutch control savant. That's just my experience anyway but maybe it can help a new rider on the info side.

[@MrEiniweini]

The CB500X looks good. So do the XRS700, CB650 and the SV650. It is your first bike and each of those will give you a platform that does most of everything adequately until you decide on your second bike. If you are set on speed or adventure riding from the outset then a more specific bike perhaps but if you are unsure about what you will eventually do, the bikes above look like pretty solid starters.

[@willyjimmy8881]

I got the CB500X this past June and it's been great. I would say that it would be the bike I'd recommend as a 1st time learner bike, or any ADV styled bike for that matter. Not that it's bad somehow, it's really good in fact. The rub for me is it tempts you into going offroad or down some gravel trail with all the confidence a pro even if you aren't. I'd say if you want to go offroad, start with a trail bike, something lighter weight, narrower, cheaper, learn to ride offroad. If you already have those skills, go for it, but it's obviously not a first bike. And it's a little compromised as an onroad bike with the extra height and weight they carry. It's fine onroad, it's where I ride it 90% of the time, but there are far better bikes for learning onroad. All that being said, and it's a little nitpicky tbh, if that's what you want, it's still a pretty darn good first bike, and it's gonna be hoot to ride.

[@Whatnow458]

I started on full size harleys and am now on a cross country on/off road adventure on an old 650 vstrom. Never had more fun. Riding seems to be an evolution for most.

[@iandaugherty8948]

Can vouch for the DRZ400SM. Was my first bike and it worked great for me. 6’0 Even so you don’t have to be that tall either.

[@mybibleandmybike]

I started on a can am Spyder and wanted a motorcycle for touring...finally got a Honda Goldwing dct and have never looked back...I say get the bike you want and take classes to get better on it and watch these videos...The Honda Goldwing was my very first motorcycle so I took the msf class and actually road the bike the last day of class...I do a lot of parking lot practice as I ride and the bike makes a big smile come across my face every time I get on the saddle...LOVE IT..

[@alambrije]

Great video as usual man, I started because I love MTB but now I'm old and tired 😩. I got a small dirt bike and it's just insane to be all day on the mountains. Kudos!

[@Hotrob_J]

Really resonated with the "take a step back". I went up to three different motorcycle dealers in Montreal, and was like "okay, I've got my top three at each place" (v-strom, versyses, an fz8, cb500x, sv650x, and an aprilia I think) and when I got there they were all sold out. Had to take a step back and go "ya know, I'll have fun on pretty much anything with two wheels and a heartbeat" and picked myself up an fz6. And I've had a lot of fun on it indeed :)

[@jeremyethridge1934]

I went with a Royal Enfield Himalayan (even if it has been crapped on by certain other channels) for many of the reasons you suggested the DRZ 400. I think it's a great starter bike but as you say, we are spoiled for choice really. There are definitely better (and worse) choices I could have gone with but I still have it almost 2 years and 7k miles later. The harder decision for me is going to be a second bike - do I get another bike to compliment the Himy, or do I replace the Himy with a more capable ADV bike. Enjoying the new content!

[@yoshi4215]

My first street legal bike, upgraded from a crf100 dirt bike, is a Royal Enfield Scram 411 and I couldn't agree more. It's the perfect in between street/ dirt bike and it's affordable. Alot of reviews shit talk it saying it's slow. But I'm not getting a bike for the speed. I got it for the experience and the joy of riding. It's prefect for me and I hope others start to see how great of a bike the Himilayan and Scram are, and I hope to see more out and about as they become more popular in the US

[@thetacticalpuertorican]

My first motorcycle was an SV650. It was a great bike but little things started to fail. I would recommend it to anyone. I just got a lemon probably because the guy who sold it to me hadn't taken care of it. Now I'm on a Bolt R spec and I love that thing. I'm 6'4" and about 250lb and it's sooo comfortable and pretty fast for what I use it for.

[@Magic_Toaster]

Love my 2017 Energica Ego as my first motorcycle, it fit every category of what I was looking for in a motorcycle: fast, electric and found for a decent price (~$10k). As one of those shut-in army vet guys, this bike has helped me get out of the house some more while just riding with no destination around town, so even if I only got like 20 miles for a charge, I'd still love it as my first bike. Now to find a way to get a new Energica since I don't want to go back to gas.

[@cjeam9199]

$10k?! That’s a very good price!

[@danieldoyle253]

20 miles? Lmao!!! You could get 3 quality gas bikes of different style for $10k. I’ve always enjoyed your abundant content on the other channel. Your commitment to a company selling a bike with 20 mile range is both bizarre and befitting of an Energica fan I suppose. Happy trails no matter the length I suppose

[@Magic_Toaster]

@@danieldoyle253 I was stating that if it only got 20 miles, instead of the 100 miles it gets, not that it actually only gets 20 miles of range

[@danieldoyle253]

@@Magic_Toaster that’s really not bad if you imagine many bikes have two gallon tanks and get 50mpg. It’s just the long charge time as a hold up. I like how your bike looks

[@Magic_Toaster]

@@danieldoyle253 do less than 100 miles per day and you can just charge at home or work when you're not going to ride anyways. DC fast charging only takes 30 minutes.

[@willyjimmy8881]

Grom was my beginner bike and I still have it. Two now since I picked up a new one last year. I've loved that thing 100% from the first day. Yes it's small for the highway, or to carry an American sized passenger. Certainly not an everything bike, most people eventually want something bigger. Unless you're an urban dweller then it's pretty much perfect. It has fuel injection, normal motorcycle controls, very lightweight, great fuel economy, very generous service intervals, not very expensive and super easy to resell and get your money back if you want. So easy to learn on. But mostly you can just have fun. Cruise, be a hooligan, stunt, on road, off road, customize, solo or group, it's just a hoot all the time.

[@Adelino.Ricardo.0liveira]

Olá, este tipo de vídeo mais informal e relaxado é sempre bem vindo. Creio que todos nós sabemos que não é fácil planear e editar vídeos, portanto este tipo de conteúdo mais casual e improvisado será sempre uma boa oportunidade para se dar a conhecer pessoalmente a todos os subscritores. Obrigado.

[@Stinkles_]

Agreed!

[@Steven-id9mc]

Started on an MT-03 back in December and I'm not bored with it because it's nimble, it's light, it's made for midgets (which I'm not), easy to work on, plenty of parts and aftermarket stuff, and it just runs no matter what. It's your traditional Japanese motorcycle. Now that I have disposable income, I want the MV Agusta Brutale 800. It goes fast, has that punch, looks like a $100 bill, and just has the tech

[@superbreaker7973]

Great vid, I did lots of research and ended up with a 22 BMW G 310GS, and I love it! although after a few months I wish I had gotten maybe a 22 nightster.

[@SunyJim]

Started on a 1985 Honda VT750 Shadow, would absolutely do it again. And have recommended newer versions of the 750 shadow to friends as their first bike. Nice, reliable, easy maintenance, and fast enough to go on the highway. Everything you need until you know what kind of riding you want to do, and buy your dream bike.

[@elitaylor5328]

Good to see you doing good on your own... Now I started at 10 years old on a Kawi KD80.... then I had a Suzuki DS100 and an old Kawi 250 that was stripped down to off road only... when I was a junior in HS I had placed an order for a brand new Kawi KDX200 ( I was getting into enduro racing ). before the bike came in I canceled the order because my brother lost his left leg below the knee in a motorcycle accident. I stepped away from it for a few years.... then the bug hit me again and I picked up a Yamaha Vision 550 then moved up to a Honda Hurricane... Loved that bike... Then got married and my son was born and sold the bike so that my son would keep his father ( think old school squid )..... now I am 51, my son is grown.... last year I picked up a KTM adventure 390... Now looking to get a XSR 900. Guess I can't get rid of that 80's squid :P

[@wenisinvietnam]

Just by reading the title, yeah pretty much. I wanted a bike. I researched it a bunch. Online marketplaces were a shitshow. Walked into a dealership with the choice between Ninja 400 and Svartpilen 401. Sat on both. Got the Ninja. After 3000 miles I knew it wasn't what I needed, but I knew what I *did* need. Very quickly sold it and got onto the bike I *did* need. It was such an easy decision because it was based on my own personal experience. And oh yeah, I still had a blast on the Ninja.

[@VerySpecialED]

Started on a SV650, and after a dozen sport bikes of all sizes, it's still one of the funniest bikes I've had. I remember it being really easy to ride, as clickable in city traffic as a dirt bike, and enough top end rush to make things exciting. I honestly would not mind having another one but with really good suspension for track days. My current FZ1 has a very similar personality; that big liter bike power is just so good.

[@shelbykenoyer290]

I am 69 years old. My first bike was a BMW K75 back in the 90"s and I loved the bike. I sold it because traffic was becoming dangerous. After many years in between my next bike was the new YZ R3 and had a blast. The next bike was a Vulcan 650, but I have a bad back and it killed my back, but I really liked it. After a couple of years I traded the Vulcan in for a Versys 650, which was comfortable. I dropped it once and had a difficult time picking it up due to lack of strength because of age. So, I sold that and bought the Z400 in 2021 and haven't looked back. Every time I get off the bike I have a smile on my face! I can

[@terr281]

My beginner experience was, as a child, always being on three and four wheelers... never allowed on a dirt bike or motorcycle. After I began working, and fuel prices began to rise, I decided to look into motorcycling. Luckily for a me, a coworker was selling their old daily commuter, a 97 BMW F650. It had been sitting for awhile, but after a bit of clean up it ran pretty well. Although it currently won't start due to fuel issues to the engine (that I don't have the time, skills, or motivation to continue diagnosing... with the current mostly remote work environment), I'd never trade the experience of buying the small, used, bike for a good price and "getting on the road". This all coming from the person that, when the time is right, will purchase the likes of a Honda NC750X (fuel efficiency)... WITHOUT the automatic transmission.

[@bajacore]

Started riding on a Honda CT70 as a kid. Bought an MT03 as my first bike and would recommend it to any new rider. Sold it to a kid who just got his endorsement and he was head over heals in love with it after two days of owning it. I would honestly buy it again if I had to. Fantastic little bike for city riding and lite commuting. Now, I’m on a 2022 BMW 750 GS and I love it. It’s not perfect, but it does exactly what I want in a bike. Threw on hand guards and a taller windscreen when I got and it’s made all the difference. Honestly, a taller rider (over 6’) would be at home on it as a beginner bike. Leave it in rain mode for a bit and it’ll do just fine. It only makes 77hp and 61 torquitos and is suuuper manageable, especially in rain mode. She be a little thick at 493 pounds fully fueled, but it’s well balanced. Definitely no buyers remorse here.

[@carver7689]

All good points. I would tell any prospective rider to get out to your local dealerships and just sit on a bunch of different bikes. If one feels especially good, make a note of it or take a picture, do something so you won't forget. After you try on a few bikes, you'll have a much clearer idea of what you want, maybe narrowed down to 3 or 4 choices. Then you start checking reviews on those bikes. Are they easy to ride? Reliable? Easy to work on? Relatively cheap to fix and insure? Those are important things to know, especially if you're new. Once you narrow it down to maybe a couple of bikes, then start asking dealers or experienced riders what they think. They'll help you to decide, either through their input or how you react to it.

[@woruf]

My first bike is a 95' Kawasaki Ninja ZZR 1100, just practiced a lot and got to know the motorcycle. I just didn't sweat the doubts, I saw it, seated on it, loved the looks and the comfort and that's about it, choosing a motorcycle is something you just don't need to worry about all that much, pick the one that makes you dream about riding it. But ride safely and don't be an adrenaline junkie starting off, just enjoy the ride, be aware, respect the machine and you'll be fine. Been with the ZZR for a year now and only dropped it once while parking.

[@justinbunch8151]

I was a returning rider after a 20 year break. Bought a cheap 750 shadow. Rode it for a month. Sold it. Bought a 1900 Stratoliner. Rode it for two months and picked up a 2013 untra classic. 750 shadow is an excellent introduction to cruisers if you are a beginner.

[@markthompson7983]

I bought my first bike in 1986, at 19 years old. It was new 1985 Honda Nighthawk 650. Basically it was a classic UJM. It was easy to ride and had enough power that I didn't get bored in a month. I rode with my friends that had more experience than I did and learned from older riders, until I was good enough later that year to get my motorcycle license. My suggestion is to get pretty much any medium size standard bike and just learn ride. You you go in any direction in year 2 or 3, sport, cruiser, whatever after you get the basics down.

[@cliff8675]

A '79 Honda CBX got me hooked on wanting a bike when I was young. Then my dad actually bought on (in parts) and I helped rebuild it. Not a perfect first bike, but what I wouldn't give to have it back. My first "my bike" is an R1200RT. It'll have stablemates, but my name will be on the title until my end. The pandammit killed my daily commute down to a ride every week or two to keep the fuids stirred a little. Back in the office in a couple of months, so I need to give it all new fluids and filters and get back to some wind therapy spending time behind bars.

[@SamSwanner]

Probably the best and most honest take on beginner bikes I've heard. For me, I started on an AMF era ironhead Sportster in '99. If I had it to do over again, I would have started with a later Evo model. But I still own the bike and still ride it from time to time.

[@reedbernstein9354]

Hi, Spite, love your new channel. My first real bike after learning on an ancient beater was the KLR. Next I bought brand new, a 2014 FZ-09 (MT-09). Since then I moved to Thailand and I bought a MT-03. The downgrade was 1/3 price considerations and 2/3 the power needed to ride around northern Thailand is not as high as in the states. The best bike I owned was the 09. However my favorite remains the KLR. To me the O9 was, from my perspective, a powerful beast and was excited to ride it, but the KLR just had so much personality and I was always smiling when I rode it. I loved that 2005 KLR and I wish they were available in Thailand. The MT-03 is a purchase I only regret when watching KZbin videos but when I’m on it riding around this beautiful country it’s actually perfect for my location. I guess that American in me wants bigger and faster. The truth is when I had the O9 I got into the habit of driving it slowly 95% of the time. The 03 is slow but I can wring it out without much fear and that’s the great thing about it.

[@Sunbound77]

My first motorcycle was s 440 LTD. As a big guy, it berely got me up to highway speeds, but it taught me the basics. I moved to an 82 CB900 after that, and loved except it had 4 carbs, and i learned that i HATE carbs. Then i moved to my 13 Victory CCT. I absolutely love it. Too bad polaris pulled their plug.

[@Beefadon]

Started on a 08 Ninja 250 and after a couple of years I’ve just upgraded to a 04 Weestrom 650. Spent a lot of time looking at reviews and talking with friends before a great deal popped up and jumped at it, then sold the Ninja. Just loving the journey and riding to commute and do missions. Couldn’t agree more with the sentiment Spite, with bikes and riding, and if you want to get into it, you’re going to love your journey, and you can always trade and exchange when you’re ready for a change in style of bike or riding. Chur from New Zealand.

[@Razorlust]

I was watching your (and others) videos for months and was dealing with that decision paralysis. But I did the opposite of sitting back and thinking. Last week I bought a Triumph America; which is not the bike I planned for what I want it to do. But it's what I will use the most right now. Getting more immediate practise became a bigger priority than the adventure bike I was considering. The best thing about transferable skills is that they are transferable.

[@azadr9231]

Fantastic content. Not everyone can pull off an unscripted video. They have to be knowledgeable, credible, likeable, balanced, measured and reasonable. You tick all the boxes bro.

[@yoshi4215]

My first street legal bike, upgraded from a crf100 dirt bike, is a Royal Enfield Scram 411 and I couldn't agree more. It's the perfect in between street/ dirt bike and it's affordable. Alot of reviews shit talk it saying it's slow. But I'm not getting a bike for the speed. I got it for the experience and the joy of riding. It's prefect for me and I hope others start to see how great of a bike the Himilayan and Scram are, and I hope to see more out and about as they become more popular in the US

[@davidklementis5913]

I started on a 1983 Honda CB550 Nighthawk in 06 and loved it. It was the right price and well used so I only had it for a little while before realizing I needed a newer bike. Like Spite, I got it mainly for commuting and replaced a car with it. In 2007 I bought a FZ6 which I used as my main transportation up until a couple years ago. I still have it as my spirited riding bike and it's now part of the family. I've had other small bikes and scooters over the years. A few months ago I got an almost new DR650 as my new daily rider.

[@SandraOrtmann1976]

Well, I made the beginner mistake of all beginner mistakes. I bought my first bike based on looks only (it was a Yamaha XT 600). I had it for 20 years and never understood what the thing with twisties was. And no, it was not particularly fast, but always fast enough for me. Super-reliable. But the discussions whether we should now take this bend never completely went away. I always expierenced it as somewhat choppy. And it still runs - I gave it away to a buddy who simply loves it. Now I ride a Yamaha Tracer 700. And I love it, after I let go of what is nowadays called adventure bike. It rides so easily, so smoothly. My first 20 years were not always easy, but now I get it. Guess better late than never...got what it is about twisties now. So much fun with this one.

[@damnice]

I started on a used Ninja 650 with 40k miles, it was incredibly tame, I'm 5'11" 215 & it was a great starter bike, passed my MSF course on it. A couple months later I sold it & got my Indian FTR & it's been amazing for a year & a half so far. I think I actually could've just started on the FTR but there's something comforting about starting on a bike that you don't need to fear dropping or abusing a little bit before upgrading to what you really want.

[@RealdoseofTruth]

A good beginner motorcycle is one that works for you. My first motorcycle was a 2007 Yamaha R1; been riding for 12 years now, owned 3 motorcycles and never dropped any of them. Now I have the 2022 MT 10 and thoroughly enjoy it. Safe riding folks and choose what works for you.