The Art Of Self-Worth: A Heated Debate

[@SeguinLife]

I asked Chatgpt to analyze the transcripts and this is what it says: Brad Lea consistently takes an aggressive tone, often interrupting and challenging John. The repeated jabs, sarcastic comments, and insinuations create a tense atmosphere. John Sarasani defends himself but is visibly pushed into a defensive position by Brad’s relentless questioning and accusations. Brad uses a confrontational style, employing rhetorical questions, sarcasm, and strong opinions to push his point. He accuses John of having a “chip on his shoulder” and not fully recognizing his worth, which escalates the tension. (This episode was Brad Lea at his worst.)

[@djozzdraper]

Smart move on you part to give us a truly objective analysis via AI… although I think that Brad and John are just not on the same vibration: they simply don’t understand each other at all…

[@leannkilarski8203]

John is such an impressive guy. I can’t believe his patience through this interview. Hope he just keeps doing it his way.

[@brisketprofit3205]

John said “use car salesman tactics” and Brad went off the deep end. What John is doing with those events is freedom. Not selling something because you need money, but doing something because you want to.

[@JakeBofshever-zz7rr]

Lot of Respect for John. Hes real as they come.

[@dennisnewton9384]

If you had a heart attack Andy Elliot would sell you CPR with an upcharge for a 911 call and if you died he’d call you a loser on the internet

[@grantlaclave8058]

Pretty funny Dennis

[@nelsondigital4664]

I met John at one of his dinner events. 100% genuine, good advice and great networking.

[@THEREALBRADLEA]

He's a REAL one

[@billyvasilopoulos8629]

I love John Cerasani. Good guy, doesn’t wanna scam everyday people.

[@THEREALBRADLEA]

Who said anything about scamming?

[@hittingreens5646]

@@THEREALBRADLEA You're out to squeeze every last drop of blood you can out of your followers. John doesn't care.

[@cchia6640]

29 min brad sounds so pathetic. John never said that brad just perceives it that way cus its true.

[@thechamp3299]

Brad we came for John. staying on the same topic is annoying. Dude, people can have difference of opinion. Hard listen.

[@ianblackburn]

Its admirable that he is offering value and experience to the masses, without trying to take from individuals. He is a man of the people, and Brad Lea is just trying to stir the pot for no reason.

[@droppinbaums]

Man John is funny as hell and you can tell he’s intelligent. I never really understood his message but I’ve come to realize he’s a good dude!

[@ItsyaBoytheKid]

2000% Baby. John is genuine, John is Legit. Gen Pop baby.

[@LovetheTide1]

John doesn’t want to make money off W2’s. He wants them to become 1099s and create their own path. Just like he did. Busting his nuts over breaking even on events and networking versus making money on them is ridiculous.

[@cchia6640]

“Im an empath” BRAD YOUR A CAR SALESMEN! LMFAO GET EM JOHN

[@robbennett10]

This is exactly what everyone talks about. When you get money, you either be more of a bad person that you have been or you’re a good person and do things even better. It’s very clear who is the greedy one and who’s actually there for the people

[@TKsGarage]

John is down to earth that’s people love the guy. Great battle of a conversation.

[@michaelcornell2323]

My buddies and I have convos like this. It’s all fun and games. Little heat and then have a beer after.

[@the_shadow_realm5110]

And a wife swap!

[@WealthAcademics]

John is correct. 99% of the time trying a hard close tactic like that in a B to B environment doesn't go well. And that's an understatement, it's usually worse because it negatively affects the business relationship you have or are trying to build. You ALWAYS want repeat business, but it's even more important in B to B, not so much in B to C, depending on the business of course.

[@jakemcglone6502]

John won me over. He’s a real one.

[@FLO21488]

This is what brotherhood looks like ladies and gentlemen!!! 😂😂😂😂🙌

[@THEREALBRADLEA]

TRUTH

[@alldaynerio9421]

Haha love it. Exactly what it looks like to have 2 strong minded individuals express their opinion. Both made valid points on several topics.

[@THEREALBRADLEA]

🤜🤛

[@jonathanmuir]

The empathy is strong with this one!

[@THEREALBRADLEA]

I'm an Empath

[@Axiomsciences]

@@THEREALBRADLEA I had an empathic episode last night after watching "It Ends With Us"

[@TheRealTerryRust]

Absolutely an amazing episode so different from the first time when John was on last time. Thanks for sharing boys!! Love ya both

[@billcolbert3031]

The John Cerasani army grows stronger by the day. Go to one of his events; the energy amongst the crowd is organic and genuine. Brad Lea settle down little buddy!!!!!!!!

[@THEREALBRADLEA]

check link in description

[@benjaminh2556]

B2B and B2C is very different. Ive done both. B2B requires selling into multiple depts and stake holders, deals can take months or years, you may have to bring in a team and specialists as partners in the sales process. I was great immediately at the quick transactional sale and it took me years to get good at selling into large companies. It’s not the same as selling a car at all. John is right. Brad with the L.

[@TheSunGodNika]

John can be right while you can be right at the same time!! Difference of opinion! He’s not selling us anything tho; people buy John’s philosophy and product of their own valition. People like Andy elliott and others are pretty fucking annoying to see on instagram. John is authentic and truthful to his word!!

[@shanedavenport9149]

he does value himself, he values the fans in that moment more, and that’s what brads problem is. jealousy that he can’t put his greed down and john can.

[@Itsdnvn]

Haha one of the better dropping bombs episodes in a while. Both John and Brad stood on business😂

[@hendrixhussle]

Love me some BRAD LEA on a Monday morning!! 😤

[@THEREALBRADLEA]

Can I get a come on?

[@JordanMcCabe-gk6nc]

John is the man. Not making money. He’s just trying be Illinois person! Props to my guy!

[@AFATHERSLOVENEVERDIES]

I used to be a fancy window salesman . We would get the customer to a certain point and then phone the owner on phone and he would close them . He was a savage smh . Talked to us like shit while the customer was right there listening and still make the huge sales . It’s a skill set for real

[@BigBanginRed]

John is a man of the people!

[@Cncbamboo]

This guys got Brad off his square lol

[@Ifly4freee]

Brad Lea is exhausting. We get it. Don't under value yourself. John is not. He's doing it his way in his own time. John is real, he's raw, he's classy, motivational and he's HONEST. I do like some of Brad's messages on some days but today he kept pounding the same thing into the ground. I need a nap now.

[@timdavid1424]

Couldn’t have said it better.

[@Mand-kl8sy]

If you charge $150 for your $10,000 product then you are undervaluing your self. Imagine if Ferrari decided to sell it's cars for $5k when they're worth $200,000

[@Ifly4freee]

@@Mand-kl8sy Understood. I've met John and been to one of his events. John loves people from all different walks of life and connecting people. He's extremely smart and talented. My guess is he's trying to figure out his niche and what he wants to market. Plus, he's already rich. It's great that he's trying to help others by giving back and acts of kindness. More people should take a page from his book and the world could be a better place.

[@wayneshirreffs2052]

Brad couldn’t deal with someone else doing it another way with different values and do he used every second of the hour plus show to bring it up over and over again.

[@THEREALBRADLEA]

@@Mand-kl8sy You get it

[@AFATHERSLOVENEVERDIES]

That’s some good advice from someone that has genuine love for you. Love ain’t lies. He wants John to reach his potential.

[@Renegaderabbit8]

Both are successful businessmen. At the end of the road, Brad will most likely be wealthier than John. But everyone at Brad’s funeral will be business parters who can’t wait until it’s over and everyone at John’s funeral will be mourning the loss of a good man.

[@ryankorsz]

This was an awesome debate - respect on both sides for not being pushovers

[@evanstonboxer]

We love John! The guy operates with high levels of integrity and empathy. Keep up the great work brother.

[@daniel_ftw]

John is not wrong those ways of old selling like Andy Elliott is slimy ass heck! Jeremy Miner is the only way to sell 🗿

[@jakekarlen6077]

I’m with John on this one

[@jacoboneal24]

I do agree. Business to business sales is a little different than business to individual. Done both.

[@nancyrudman4518]

Great podcast. Excellent perspectives from both men!

[@thedorisborjon]

John's networking dinners- fucking amazing! You guys both rock💥 #realconversations

[@seekgeek]

Brad- I’ve have always been a fan- however, you seem like you are intimidated by John and his charisma. You come across like you are trying to talk down on him not to him on the level. Just my opinion from over here in Gen Pop!!

[@ErickaWilliamsCC]

this is very heated but i love the energy of john.. don't back down good stufff.

[@OnurcanYigit-tg1sk]

John Ceresani is the king

[@daniel_ftw]

Been slacking on uploading Dropping Bombs Brad!

[@Freedom-at-any-cost]

Both can be right at the same time. John doesn’t care about charging ppl for his knowledge, a real man for the ppl. Brad charges ppl tons of money to learn how to coach ppl(or something like that.) These men are not the same and that’s the best thing about humans. John, we love you❤. Don’t stop.

[@THEREALBRADLEA]

I charge what I am worth. I make money in many different ways and teaching people how to coach is not one of them.

[@Freedom-at-any-cost]

@@THEREALBRADLEA and that’s so amazing for you! If it works for you, keep going and don’t stop. I was under the impression you teach ppl how to sell and coach ppl. Now I know that’s not what you do…. Leaves me still wondering what you do/sell though.

[@joeytoxicbaby]

@@Freedom-at-any-costhe sells the dream 💭

[@ceeeecee]

John doing it!!! Love that dude!

[@socalrocks9082]

John is dope. Brads the type of guy who sits in the extra chair in the hotel room.

[@6ftfox]

He was the best used car salesman in the country and the best closer. My dad worked with him. He’s a closer closer.

[@ceeeecee]

Saying I'm an empath and I can feel things about people...is like a humble man SAYING he's humble...Brad John comes off like the humble empath while the little buddy Brad comes off as a pompous prick

[@andrewglogowski1256]

John is a legit guy who isn't trying to make money off his followers, because he doesn't need to and legitimately made it. Brad along with all the other "gurus" these days are trying to sell people hopes and dreams and trying to make as much as possible to pad their wallet and pay their bills. There's a difference.

[@ceeeecee]

Hey we trying to get out of Gen Pop...let John our Leader help us!

[@erichorstmeyer1219]

John isn’t in the sandbox. I get what he’s doing -there’s a distinction. Fan of both of you

[@GovKidMethod]

I’m Team Brad on this one

[@ethancullen4977]

Honestly Brad was really trying to one up John the whole interview. John handled it really well. Why is he pushing on him to charge an arm and a leg to hangout and gamble with him if he doesn’t want to and wants to charge a fair price so it’s affordable to his followers? What’s wrong with that?

[@runnrax]

This is hilarious and I am only 8 minutes in.

[@ceeeecee]

Brad this is simple : John makes it affordable for us gen pop.

[@THEREALBRADLEA]

A man for the people

[@patrickjphillips]

Wait so is Brad an Empath?

[@AustinVasilios]

Brad I've always been a fan! But bro you can't talk shit about having a waterfall in your living room if you don't have one...😂 I don't think people see what Brad is doing here (intentionally or not). Pushing John to charge his followers a bunch of money (which I have no problem with) is pulling John's reasoning out for why he's doing it - because it's fun to him and its a way he can provide value to people at scale. The fact that he only charges what his cost is just shows that he doesn't give a fuck about making money off people who follow him and how he "should do it" and instead cares more about giving to others than receiving. It's his thing, it's growing and working. If the purpose of the podcast wasn't to show this about John I feel the questioning could have been more relevant to viewers. I think the outcome of the conversation was beneficial for us viewers but it's because of the way John stuck to his beliefs and principles when he kept being brought back to Brad's sell for why he should charge people more money. Not hating, just adding to the conversation. Great to see these two speak. And I fully support the waterfall

[@michaelcornell2323]

Brad lea is correct here about John. He doesn’t want to look at it.

[@MillerMadness-lb3vh]

This dude brad lea wanna be Grant cordon bad as hell … he said he invited john on because he thought he was cool now he mad at him because he dont wanna charge his fans more thats sad

[@antoniovillanueva1119]

Both styles work. Don't know why John has to diss Brad's style.

[@jasonvonheston]

This dude brad can't let shit go

[@jwade.mindset]

huge fan Mr. Brad but holf fk this interview was painful. Congrats to John for keeping his cool while constantly getting interrupted and spoken down to.

[@saltycracker9147]

Brad is the ultimate pocket watcher

[@chrissilva4500]

The beginning of this was HILARIOUS AF!! 😂😂😂😂

[@AustinVasilios]

The empath thing is cracking me up😂

[@Renegaderabbit8]

You should only eat steak at the Golden Steer in Las Vegas. Don’t ever eat at the hotel restaurants. iykyk

[@jasonvonheston]

Im 46 minute into this podcast and this dude is still arguing over selling tickets to an event

[@blusand207]

Charging more you end up with wanna be rich scam artists like Andy Elliott. John’s events may be “gen pop” people but they’re actually trying to be good people with financial success.

[@dustinwilliams5399]

John has it dialed. If you need a hard ask at the end, your pitch wasn’t worth a 💩anyway.

[@Medchix]

Brad how much to do pay it forward for charities

[@erinhunt7307]

Brad you’re way more firm in your opinion 😂 I’ve never seen Brad so hot and bothered by someone who’s being respectful and putting up w/ his bs. He keeps trying to bother John but the repeated rambling is surprising. I’ve never seen this side of Brad.

[@ProlificArchives]

COVERING THE COST IS NOT THE SAME WHEN YOU’RE GAMBLING, brad never been down $200k/$300k in a day & have to make it back

[@BookkeepingExpert]

I like Brad & John, but I agree with Brad on this one. Either don't charge or charge more

[@ELLIOTTARMY]

I like Brad. Dude is fukn smart.

[@cameronrahm5563]

B2B sales very different than selling cars to people. Brad couldn’t get that one.

[@Chad702allstar]

here in vegas we have a big b2b sales team and we all use our ABC's

[@tbatch1980]

This is a good combo

[@TheFrequencyOfGod]

I named my dog after Rudy from that movie. Was my favorite growing up.

[@donjacobs4171]

This is Gold!!

[@michaelhaslett267]

They’re both right

[@flightzoneglass]

Cerasani 🙏

[@KybalionThunderbird]

John definitely said, "Used car salesman" to try to insult Brad. Very Obvious, and he's being disingenuous if he says otherwise.

[@Medchix]

Wow this guy sounds bitter… he makes money being a desk jockey. John set him up with a waterfall of tears of jealousy

[@TushTV]

I can’t believe how hung up this dude is on John not wanting to charge more. Buddy do your thing and atfu lol. You wanna charge 10k? Go for it but stfuuuu

[@dylanmiah287]

This was a sick podcast for sure.

[@joeytoxicbaby]

Why doesn’t anyone ever comment on brads color? Is he sick ? 😢

[@stenzy282]

John is the MAN in a world full of fake entrepreneurs and shady sales tactics. Brad not having the ability to grasp John's position is comical

[@GRASSPOLE]

Surprised by Brad here, a nerve was hit here and he couldn’t chill . He ran off the end of the plank on this one

[@billcolbert3031]

This is like listening to a poor man’s Grant Cardone

[@pete4240]

This episode was so annoying, 35 mins in and still arguing about what he should or shouldn't be doing. Next!

[@sandilemaseko3836]

Thats Brad's brother

[@sultanicthoughts]

Lol grifters can't understand giving value without saying there's "only 3 spots left before price triples from $5000 to 15000$"

[@erinhunt7307]

I love Brad but why does he have a chip on his shoulder for John. John is acting reasonable and Brad is trying too hard.

[@MrLasVegasTickets]

He account is down on Instagram 😢

[@shaun787max]

Yo that behind the video was awesome very very cool Brad

[@EdSuarez-t3j]

SCHAUMBURG........LFG

[@southsidecrew101]

Insta sales bros are exhausting