LUCCA A53 MINI - An Espresso Workhorse With A Potential Obstacle

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The Lucca A53 Mini by La Spaziale is, at least on paper, a proper home barista workhorse. It claims to bring consistent, reliable, and repeatable cafe quality espresso home at a competitive pricepoint. But words at cheap, so in this week's video I'll be getting my sticky barista paws into this espresso machine to see how it lives up to the claims.
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[2:52] PERFORMANCE & USABILITY
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[@AlecOGrady]

I have this machine and use it to run my business. Things a workhorse. I was concerned about the 53mm portafilter, but it doesn’t actually matter. I’ve had it for about 2 years now and this thing has made itself a lot more money than I paid for it. When I get an upgraded machine, this will stay in my home. It’s a fantastic machine that pulls great shots.

[@Sprometheus]

Glad to hear that! Nice to know it’s been performing well in a commercial environment. Thanks for sharing.

[@rhythms24]

Hi there! When you mentioned you use it for your business did you mean you run a small or mobile cafe? I'm looking into machines that are suitable for a small scale business and something I can use for pop ups. Will this be able to keep up with high traffic? Can this machine keep up or does it need recovery time after x number of shots? Would you recommend other machines? I'm willing to pay upwards of 5 or 6k for a capable machine. Thank you for your input! Have a great day!

[@AlecOGrady]

@@rhythms24 I use it on a mobile cart for farmers markets, pop-ups and events. It has it's limitations, but only if using the hot water boiler over and over again (ie for Americanos, but I've started using a separate water source for that). If you're willing to pay 5 or 6K, I'd go with the marzocco. I've used that for several events in the past and it's been a favorite of mine. Plus, it can be plumbed in or using the reservoir. But, this machine has been really, really solid for me. I've had long lines that lasted for several hours at an event with zero breaks and this machine kept up perfectly.

[@ME-kr7sm]

Honesty🎉

[@Mr__True]

@@AlecOGradyThank you for your information sharing with us!

[@LorenMaryBethNoyes]

My mini is about to have it's 10th birthday, I bought it from Clive way back when. The only time it turns off is the rare occurrence of us losing power. Other than that it runs 24/7 and seems very happy to do so. When I bought it, there wasn't many options for the home barista outside of an e61 machine. And the styling of this machine matches my MCM home perfectly. I take your comment about Ron Burgundy as a compliment! lol. What I can say is it's a well built piece of equipment. I rebuilt the steam arm and descaled the boilers about 2 years ago, and when we cracked them open, it didn't even seem to need it. The only issue I've ever had with mine is that plastic fill line for the steam boiler. It leaks ever so slightly and I've replaced it about 4-5 times. But outside of that. It's rock solid and makes killer drinks for either myself or a large group, never misses a beat.

[@tobyrapp8834]

In the fall of 2014 I went to Clive Coffee intending to walk out with iirc a Rocket R58, the staff asked what I made daily - cappuccino, they sold me on the Lucca Mini, a savings at that time of around 1k. I had some unnecessary worries about the 53mm portafilter and after using it daily for nearly 9 years with one breakdown (covered under warranty) it has been a total workhorse. In combination with the Eureka Specialty 75 and Acaia Lunar scale, I get consistent shots every time. Yes, it is a simple machine, and it is awesome at what it does.

[@sms4hou676]

I have the Dream, totally love it. Pulled about 6000 shots in 3 years, 0 hiccups, runs super consistent. Heats quickly (20 amp), froths fast. The dream is quite programmable and customizable to multiple users, timers, etc.

[@BrucePappas]

Hi, Spro. I have owned a La Spaziale Lucca A53 Mini since July 2021. I put it alongside my 2005 La Pavoni Pro in my coffee corner. I gradually have transferred my daily coffee routine to my Lucca, so I'm familiar with it. I bought my Lucca because its saturated grouphead is on par with the La Marzocco Linea Mini for less than HALF the cost. Having a saturated grouphead is a great selling point for all La Spaz Vivaldi/Dream/Lucca machines. It's also well built, easy to repair, and used commercially in smaller coffee bars. Personally, I like its compact design, as well as its aesthetic. A little old school Italian, like my La Pavoni. As for its portafilter basket size of 53mm, other major manufacturers such as Breville and La Pavoni use smaller baskets. The theory is smaller baskets provide more crema and deliver shots easier and more consistently, because less pressure is required. Also, a 16g dose in a smaller, deeper 53mm basket can deliver more flavors and aromas, since the water flows through the puck more slowly with less pressure. At least, that's the theory and since I don't own a 58mm machine, I can't test it. Frankly, I've found enough accessories to customize my machine and optimize my workflow. Clive Coffee provides excellent, friendly support. Overall, I'm extremely happy with my purchase.

[@CraigStocksArts]

I’ve had the direct plumb - rotary pump version for about four years and I love it. I do agree that the smaller diameter basket is a bit more challenging when looking for compatible toys, but it probably saved me money. As an aside, I flush and wipe the brewhead after every shot and do a deep cleaning once a week; I’m surprised you haven’t done more videos about the importance of a clean machine.

[@sheldon_n]

It's a great machine. I have the full size Lucca A53 which gives the upgrades of rotary pump, plumbed water supply, a larger more powerful 2.5L steam boiler, and programmable line pressure pre-infusion time. I'd whole heartedly recommend the full size A53 if you're able to plumb it. I've actually convinced two family members to buy their own and they love it as well. I think the volumetric dosing is a great feature, it's so nice to just punch a button and pull as shot while steaming milk and not having to mess with watching a scale under the cup. I just tweak the grind settings as needed to keep shot time appropriate. The 53mm hasn't been an issue, there are even 53mm dosing cups that work with the Niche Zero or Eureka grinders. FYI that there are more buried programming settings available - you can adjust boiler temperature/pressure and extended range brew temperature offsets. The Lucca A53 is really just a cosmetically updated Vivaldi II, which is a workhorse that has been around for 20 years. You can use the instruction manual for the Vivaldi to find out about the buried setting options available.

[@s96822]

I literally put my Cremina, Faemina lever, and Pavoni lever in the closet after I got a plumbed in 220 volt La Spaziale Vivaldi S1 some years ago. Rock solid, great construction, heavy, commercial steam, 2 boiler, rotary pump, electronic temp control. Have owned a slew of other machines including commercial. I think Dallacorte and La Spaziale were once the same company but went their separate ways. Dallacorte also 53mm I believe.

[@asselinpower]

I actually think it looks cool with the wooden panels. If it had a standard portafilter they would sell 5 times more machines . I tried the mini Vivaldi and I have to say the steam power is solid. It s not much weaker than a Linea mini. If it had a rotary pump and a standard portafilter it would be an awesome machine . Concerning clearance, I don t like when people say that it s too low. Espresso/ cappuccino cups are not meant to be huge mugs . If you drink your coffee in a mug , you don t want an espresso machine . Good review again and thanks for sharing .

[@Sprometheus]

Yeah the wood panels definitely look better than the standard plastic in my opinion too, and the steam really does kick off. I was impressed with that. I think a rotary pump and 58 would help sales in some ways, but it seems La Spaziale uses a 53mm almost exclusively on the machines I’ve seen, but some do have rotary pumps. And in terms of clearance, I don’t think many folks are getting mugs for their espresso machine, but I will say 2-3 inches is painfully small, and even a cappuccino cup in many cases will struggle to fit with spouts.

[@luckcab]

I own one and i love it! Got it a few years ago new for $1700 when i was planning on opening a small coffee catering service and i fell in love. Combined with my mazzer major its been a super verstile and consistent as my daily driver. Plus i know that they will both definitely outlive me.

[@Sprometheus]

Nice! Glad to hear it’s reliable and has been solid over the course of a few years! Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@wolfgangchang]

I’ve had the La Spaziale Vivaldi 2 with the 53mm Portafilter. This machine is an absolute tank. I’ve catered a wedding and made none stop drinks for 2 hours straight and it did not let me down. Also any 54mm Portafilter accessory will work. There are tons to choose from since all or most breville accessories/tools work with this.

[@philindeblanc]

Its a 2 ear portafilter not 3. I am not sure if that is compatible.Its a M12 handle, not M10. I can give zero cares for the portafilter size, as this machine is a solid consistent, sexy machine. I like the look vs the boxy all metal. It can use some flare, but its a subtle looker....Do a custom paint job on the panels if you want, IDK!?

[@Hi_im_adel_]

I've also had the vivaldi mini 2 for about 2 years now (pretty much exact same thing) and it did not let me down once, its amazing and works like a charm, like someone else said it's a bit harder to find accessories for the smaller portafilter but then again, it saved me money, i never used a bigger size machine so i have no comparison, I love it to bits is my conclusion :)

[@nicholaskroll8]

Almost at the 1 year mark with my Lucca A53. Endless great shots. Took me a bit to wrangle in the steam power but once I figured it out it was easy street.

[@cheekster777]

Thanks, as always, my friend. Hope you have a great weekend ahead. ☕️ ☀️

[@Sprometheus]

You’re welcome, and you as well! Cheers!

[@braxtonjens7839]

I’ve used this for years now for catering and pop ups. It’s a great machine to work with. And I’ve worked on LM machines in shops. Save your money, buy this, and you’ll thank yourself- if you you want to open a small shop, do catering or event pop ups. Some can run on 20amp, making the recovery time of the boilers absolutely minima.

[@stepdad12345]

They are 15 amp regulated by SAE or whoever regulates these. But with the computer in the machine both boilers work after warm up. (I get 800 watts for brew boiler, 1100 watts for steam boiler, and 1600 watts when both are need). This keeps it below the 1800 watts(15 amps). So 20 amps would be nice but, it really doesn't make a difference for me, (so fast!) this machine is amazing! BTW the old La Spaziale were true 20 amp machines.

[@coobeans43]

I have the older version of the A53 mini and i love it. My biggest complaint is the lack space under the group head. I was worried about finding tools for it but Clive sells a Big Step in 53mm and i wasable to find a dosing funnel. With the deeper portafilter I think you get less channeling. The big seller for me was the fact that is E61, I find them horrendous. Im also pretty handy so its nice that Clive sells pretty much every part in the event something ever goes wrong.

[@frankypc]

I had the pleasure of using the A53 with the vibe pump and its amazing

[@stepdad12345]

Great Machine at any price! Super quiet vibratory pump! Front loading water a must for cabinets. Amazing steam, 2 dosing buttons for accurate dosing shots. Super fast warm up and recovery time. (All on 15 amps). Rated for commercial use. Makes great espresso and dry steam. I had a Heat Exchanger machine with a Rotary pump and a E-61 group head. What a horrible experience. Never made good espresso, took forever to warm up, and forever to make another espresso. E-61 is a pain to maintain, too many parts. (Even had Eric's Thermometer and a Flow Control= Never helped!) Now the wish list: See through water tank with a lid! Better panels, maybe smaller footprint, (this is not a small machine).Maybe incorporate a tank with the Rotary pump version? Boiler check valve clip broke after 1 1/2yr.(too small) (Bought 3 because it is going to happen again & again). I can't make these fast enough for this awesome machine (It's always ready!).

[@fabj9193]

Fine machine that i just sold after 2 years with it. Home and commercial. One of the best shots (birdrock coffee) ever pulled. Hopefully I can upgrade to the beautiful M58 model soon. 👌🏽

[@carlosvelasquez5998]

I had the mini for over 7 years and it was a great machine never left me down. I don't think that the 53 mm was a negative just different. I think that you get a lot for your money with the mini vivaldi.

[@daniel635biturbo]

It looks really well built and engineered. And thank god that someone still dares to build a machine without Bluetooth and internet.

[@philindeblanc]

The last thing I want in the AM or with my coffee is BS tech to deal with my phone. Screw an app for coffee!!BUT if you really want , they have a 60 BT timer you can add on. The standard timer is $150

[@00ddub]

I love the look!

[@philindeblanc]

I know , right! Its a bit retro, but thats the point. Easy to keep clean, and doesnt look like all the other same chrome boxes.

[@joachimemand1687]

I'm happy to see the machine performs well. I had it on my short list about three years ago. At the end I decided for the Lelit Elizabeth, mainly because of better dealer support (here in Europe) and the fact that I *wanted* a 58 mm portafilter. Clive Coffee is doing a good job in "modernizing" the looks, as the original version is worse. Still I love this thing. Also the original version is under 2000€ last time I checked.

[@hankrousseau4127]

I got a La Spaziale Dream T about two years ago and I love it. With the touch screen you can set brew and steam temperatures, including any offsets you decide on, set a power on and off time, individual user profiles for temperature and volumes, etc. It's a tank, and I love it. The portafilter size doesn't bother me, these days you can find pretty much anything you want for it. I wish the Dream models had preinfusion, but I have to say that what I'm getting in the cup is fabulous, so maybe it's not needed.

[@sms4hou676]

Dream model does have pre infusion, just not the Dream T... (tank model, I believe has an add-on that will). My Dream, almost 3 years old now, has 8500 pulls, doesn't miss a beat, and aside from the "cramped space" and the 53mm, does not have the drawbacks reviewer lists. In fact, I totally love my machine, as @hankrousseau4127 does.

[@philindeblanc]

The dream can have a preinfusion added. it gives about 3-4 seconds of preinfusion. its not a expensive add on, about 100 usd

[@finder2267]

Oh man, i have a lot of thoughts on La Spaz having owned a Dream. Firstly, I concur. These machines (La Spaz machines in general) are workhorses and aimed at a more casual crowd. There are two huge things that were not mentioned. 1. My Dream was extremely loud, not at first but over time. I am not sure why as I replaced the pump a few times and this did not help. But it is something that can be a deal breaker. 2. Service: Of course, you can take these anywhere to get service and there are a lot of shared interchangeable parts. However, servicing this machine at home is a B! It is tightly packed making swapping out parts a little like Tetris! Swapping a failed steam boiler took me 4 1/2 hours. 3. The plastic parts do not wear/age very well in my experience. Once those side panels come off, they never going to fit like they did. 4. Power consumption is high if you want fast recoveries. If I were to do this again, I would avoid the (t) varient of the Dream or and La Spaz machine. The plumbed varient has a rotary pump instead of the vib which is much better. I think the Dream series has a lot going for it but La Spaz doesnt seem interested in pushing the limits of the design. I find the Lucca A53 unconvincing because of the limitation mentioned in the video over the Dream. With the Dream you get more usable features for roughly the same price. All that said, I would mostlikely wait till i had enough money for a LM Micra or something else.

[@Sprometheus]

Interesting! Thanks for your insights. The noise on this one wasn’t offensive or surprising as I expect a higher amount with a vibration pump, but then again I only had it for a short time so it could very well get louder over time. I did mention that getting to things inside the machine, namely the pump, was more difficult than I’d like so I definitely under that one. Personally I didn’t notice much difference in power consumption, but I often have a lot of stuff running so it would really have to pull a lot of power to be noticeable. I haven’t used the Dream, but I’ve seen it and it definitely seems like it was the base for the Lucca, interesting to consider the two side by side. And yeah, the Micra is next level up for sure, I doesn’t have the programmable yields, but the rotary pump and 58mm portafilter go a long way once you hit the $2000 price point.

[@philindeblanc]

10 years running the Vivaldi Mini S1 and the rotary pump is the quietest I have had between other machines that are of pro-sumer vibe pumps. I would check what you are placing he machine on top of to rule out something? I even use the shelf with cups, lol. I have taken it apart a few times with no serious issues on the panels...yeah, they are a bit align and fit and I have snapped off the peg, but no issues really. The insides is not much worse. Its got a flowmeter, so yes, that adds some piping, but...Its got a flowmeter! And di I hear plastic?? the only things plastic are the covers on the electricals. this beast is as metal as a machine can get. Stainless steam boiler, copper main and brass, and mostly copper piping with brass fittings.

[@finder2267]

@@philindeblanc Three points: 1) I was referencing the vibratory Dream. 2) I'm afraid I have to disagree with the plastic and I think most users would side with the amount and quality. Plastic can differ from production runs. I always had to fight to get the machine back together. To be honest, it is never the same after the panels come off. The difference in quality between the plastic panels on my LM GS3 and the Dream is not compatible. 3) The fact that you have to take off all the panels to do any meaningful maintenance is a hassle. BTW, Vivaldi Mini and Dream are not the same machine. Is the Dream a bad machine, no! However, there are a lot of things that could be improved to make the Dream more competitive in todays market.

[@philindeblanc]

True, they are not the same, and certainly quality can and often does differ between machines AND a decade in time. On the Vivaldi, the top tray gives you a look and some access, and so does the front under grouphead panel. If you need rear access to pump, boiler work, YES, it is all off. The pressure valve is accessible from front panel, which is a plus on the mini Vivaldi II S1. I guess they do have similar looks, as the Lucca A53 is very much along a Vivaldi, but I am not sure of the layout on the Dream or Dream T. I thought they were more similar. As far as the plastic vs the chrome boxes...I think it is also logical to think most people, who are spending a $2k and up on a espresso drink machine will want most metal parts, as it is longer wearing, and looks nice. Not many people are handling the sides and such of the machine. Yes, sounds like I agree with all you said, as they are all logical ;-). @@finder2267

[@mixhpun]

A quality review, as always

[@raelindan]

I did consider this machine coming from a breville / sage / solis barrista express. I think that also features a 53mm portafilter so the toys I had could carry over. However there's a few things that made me opt for a profitec Pro 700 instead and I'm glad I made that choice 1. Rotary pump 2. Cost (mine only cost me 2400) 3. Wider availability (and thus cheaper) tools, because those 53mm bottomless portafilters can come at a premium because they're niche 4. Although repeatability with shot timers is nice, personally I'm more of a fan of weight based extractions. This can become cumbersome if you switch coffees regularly and the extraction is different between beans. In that scenario I'd rather have a lever actuation than a button timed actuation

[@commentator2.0]

It’s funny that people think this machine looks ugly but then think the Linea machines look good

[@Sprometheus]

Haha yeah I mean, I prefer the Linea look, but to each their own.

[@commentator2.0]

@@Sprometheus yea overall I prefer the Linea look too but objectively it is a blocky, industrial looking machine. I just think anyone who can appreciate the Linea machine should be able to appreciate the A53 as well.

[@dgasmd1]

I think this machine is sinfully ugly, but so is the Linea for that matter and most of the machines in most brands actually. It is not until you get into the 2 grouppo commercial ones that they start to look nice in some models.

[@xlabor]

I had a Dalla Corte Studio almost 2 years with 54 mm portafilter. I love it. You can make more easier consistent coffee than 58 mm and smaller dose coffee tastes more greater than at 58mm. Studio has rotary pump, 0,1 celsius degree setting option for water degree. Saturated group head as LM is also and it's boiler has no heavy metal (eg nickel, cadmium etc). DM is more affordable water chemicals (Mg etc) and ph than LM. Dalla Corte makes a 54 mm to 58 mm conversation set if you don't like the 54 mm.

[@bacca71]

Very nice and balanced review. Thank you! The reference to use in small cafes indicates the Lucca is NSF certified. Seems like a nice machine that puts out nice espresso. Concerning is the short distance between portafilter spout and the tray, the vibe pump and the accessory limitations on the 53mm basket size. Other than those, this machine seems to tics a lot of boxes.

[@philindeblanc]

Not sure why he mentions the pump is hard to get to..>its right there at the edge of the chassis as you remove the rear panle, AND it is a SUPER quiet pump. Its actually very easy to get to. I hope he can chime in and elaborate on what he means. Maybe other machines do not need to remove panels to get to the pump?

[@_.Bill._]

La San Marco also has 53mm portafilters, but very deep baskets. I have always been told they made great shots, and were very easy to dial in, extremely forgiving. It is kinda shame that this niche market that pushes experimentation and exploration just skips this detail because as you mentioned, "my over engineered accessory wont fit". Also on a side note, those Luccas and the Vivaldi before it are absolute tanks. I feel like you could drop one off a table and it wouldn't care.

[@Sprometheus]

It sure feels like a tank moving it around, and the internals feel very sturdy. Just wish it was more tech friendly for repairs and replacements.

[@_.Bill._]

@@Sprometheus Yeah, I did not enjoy getting the panels off, and rooting around inside of them.

[@rogerchapa6461]

Love my Lucca A53. Unfortunately, its been in storage since last July. I've been using my backup machine, a Breville barista express, another 53mm machine. ANYWAY, as to the 53mm question, I have had a Gaggia classic and did not notice any difference in quality between the 53mm and 58mm shot. As to the auto on/off timer, my Dec 2021 version of the A53 does in fact have a timer that can be programed and controlled by your IOS or Android device.The app is the La Spaziale S1 timer app and last I checked it was at V1.2. It works great!

[@kingquesoIV]

I have this machine I’m excited to see your thoughts

[@alanroderick7153]

As always, thank you. I do not chase every latest 58mm "must have" accessory and usually wait until there are cheaper alternatives in the market. However those alternative brands do seem to be covering more portafilter sizes and so the disadvantage of not being 58mm may now be reduced. Thicker puck and possible less channeling could be a good thing for casual users as you mentioned. For now and my probable next machine I am staying with 58mm.

[@Sprometheus]

Of course, and thanks for watching. And yeah, the number of companies making tools for more sizes is expanding, seemingly by the day. If you already have a 58mm it just makes sense to stick with that size, otherwise there’s a cost of replacing or getting new tools and tampers, etc.

[@fsalucard]

I've had my A53 Mini for 2 years and it's been great. I have the pre-infusion chamber installed in mine which increases pre-infusion time (not programmable though) however it vastly messed up volumetrics so that is pretty useless for me. I always have to pull my own shots. I am trading it in for another machine primarily due to lack of plumbing option which i find is the most annoying about the A53 Mini. Unlike a lot of competitors the A53 comes in two flavors: The Mini, which is vibratory reservoir-only machine, and the A53 which is rotary and plumbed-in only. So to switch from reservoir to plumb requires a whole new machine, which is where I'm at so I'm going to a machine that has both. Functionally, the machine has performed brilliantly and I pull more consistent and arguably "better" shots with it than I did the Gaggia Classic Pro (58mm), and I have found every accessory you'd want (Calibrated Tamper, Distribution tools, paper and metal puck filters, etc) in 53mm so really - I agree that size does not matter in this case.

[@Sprometheus]

I’m glad to see some folks have had it for awhile and have chimed in with their long term experience. I can definitely see how the pre-infusion chamber could mess with the volumetrics, but likely worth it in the long run. I do agree it’s odd they don’t have machines that can be both tank or plumbed. The other weird bit is the options with the rotary pump aren’t more expensive, which would really make the A53 a true competitor with the Micra, outside of the portafilter.

[@mikkoutevsky3902]

I think the A53 is most at home on the bar at a nice Italian restaurant that doesn’t have time to train its bartenders or waitstaff to be baristas, but needs after-dinner espresso and affogatos on the menu. Volumetrics are a big plus, and the aesthetic can work nicely there, plus it’s compact and you’ll never need to fit a 16oz latte cup under the spout.

[@psalmreader909]

I just snagged the direct plumb, 2665 out the door cant complain. I know a few businesses that run the direct plumb, nothing but great things about it. The reservoir version is more suited for home but still packs a punch. After this vid its going to get a big spot light on it lol.

[@nigelrathbone6552]

I like the look

[@mikni4069]

I owned one now many years ago or rather I owned its sister version that didn’t have the wood panels. It is indeed a capable machine but it shot profile is indeed more tailored towards traditional style shot on more traditional coffee, light roast it is a bit to limited and too hard to change pressure on but so was its main rival the DC Mini at that time a machine I also owned.

[@nofam]

That gauge looks like a face from a 1990's cartoon - love it!

[@mtpastor4546]

Basically, Lucca A53 is a good machine with its price point. Some people would argue its 53mm portafilter. For my understand 53mm is not a big deal. The only issue with 53mm is lack of convenience to use, says it can not fit to regular dosing cup, tamper… There are something A53 should consider to upgrade. The most important one to me is the pump. Rotator pump is essential! Second, Pid system, I want to have more precise control. Finally, it only available at Clive Coffee, please come to Canada. Compare with E61 machine, I would pick A53, because: more safe to use at domestic setting with children. The group head from e61 is too hot, and dangerous to children. Also it is small in size, more portable.

[@Sprometheus]

I’m with you, I definitely prefer a rotary pump at this $2k+ price point. It is held back some being only from Clive. I wasn’t aware they don’t sell in Canada. And that’s a good point. Even for me the intense heat of the E61 group can be a hazard to kids and pets, even I’ve burned myself here and there.

[@mikhailarey1196]

I've had this in my kitchen for the past 3 years. It was my second choice after a GS3. My only complaint, is that it is not a GS3.

[@thebitterfig9903]

A more serious machine than I’d be looking for at this time in my life, but I wouldn’t sweat the 53mm. I’m chugging along with my strong-for-the-price Breville Bambino, and that’s a 54mm. There are fewer gadgets for the size, but a better grinder and a well-executed WDT with a budget 3d printed tool is far more import than whatever geegaws a 58mm filter could use. I can get not wanting to downsize if you already had kit for a 58mm, rebuy things you already owned. But if you aren’t already locked into a particular size, there’s just so many things that matter more.

[@justy234]

As you say, the only bad thing about a smaller portafilter is that your choice of accessories is less. I miss my force tamper that I used with my 58mm but it isn't like there aren't other options that get the job done.

[@wakeawaken430]

Ι had several 58mm machines before my 51mm machine(Pavoni) and i can say that 58mm is only a standard, doesn't mean anything about the quality of the cup, that's grinder's job

[@Sprometheus]

Well said, and I 100% agree.

[@Brewtonian]

I have a 46mm, a 49mm, a 53mm, and a 58mm. The 46mm makes the best espresso. The 53mm second best. The 58mm is my most expensive machine and comes in third. The 49mm is a La Pavoni and is just a dreadful machine, though if the machine was modernized it might make the second best espresso. 58mm is a silly standard adopted from flawed logic and snobbery.

[@wakeawaken430]

@@Brewtonian you can't change the group to 3rd generation, or try the bong isolator

[@rafaelpanham7598]

Tenho a Vivaldi II com bomba rotativa e adoro o espresso que tiro dela... Tenho máquina de 58mm também, e não vejo diferença.

[@Val_Smith]

I heard this has tech simmilar to KVW idromatc. Dalla Corte was forcing 53mm as well, but gave up on Mina. I don't like how the La Spaziale looks, but Dalla Corte studio looks fantastic. As far as Italian machines go you can't beat VBM Domabar Super bang for buck though.

[@playnicegames]

It does have an on/off timer, Bluetooth it’s via an app.

[@sdrawkcabvag]

How would you compare this to the Silvia pro x, for a home use milk drink machine

[@royh2618]

I had this machine for home use. Its great, very powerful. You can pull back to back shots all day. My problem is there was a boiler leak that i had to repair twice (2 different repair companies). The Tech said it was a design flaw. I got rid of the machine for that reason. Also, its a huge unit, take up a lot of space.

[@Sprometheus]

Dang that’s a bummer. Did the tech elaborate on the flaw, explain what it was exactly? I’d be curious to know if that’s legit, or maybe an excuse for possibly not being sure of the fix.

[@royh2618]

@@Sprometheus Its been a couple of years now, so im fuzzy on the details. It made a hissing sound on warmup and I could see a puddle of water under the machine. Youre right, the work area is a bit tight, too.

[@philindeblanc]

A design flaw? Really? If the design is bad, wouldn't it be something happening to other machines? I have done months of research, and I was just about to buy one, and now this!! Oh man!!

[@royh2618]

@@philindeblanc It is happening. Speak with an espresso machine service company. They can tell you which brands to stay away from. I have a Bezzera BZ13 which is very good. My newest is a Profitec Pro 400. I've also had Silvia, Crossland and Magister.

[@philindeblanc]

A design flaw like this would show on the machines in big numbers, yet reading teh comments, many owners of this model dont report it. most people dont read many comments, I am almost done with all on different Vivadi2 video posts LOL. Well, I guess its back to more research. Lelit is looking good, the Bezzera is a good line, as well as the ECM. cheers!@@royh2618

[@davidisaiv]

Thanks for the review. After having an espresso machine with 58mm portafilter, it is hard to imagine going down to a 53mm portafilter.

[@Sprometheus]

Yeah, I think that makes sense. When you’ve already got the parts that fit all 58mm machines, switching means even more of a cost.

[@davidisaiv]

@@Sprometheus It seems to be a better option for those coming from a 53mm like a breville or alike. A taste of something more premium but keeping all of their equipment for a 53mm portafilter.

[@dumkopf]

What would you find difficult?

[@philindeblanc]

I did just that, when from a E61 to this machine, and zero looking back. Sure , I had to get a couple accessories, but plenty of whats needed. even custom handles, IMS baskets, shower screens and such.

[@jaimecobos8098]

@@davidisaivI went from a Breville Barista Express to Rocket Appartamento to Lucca A53 Mini and prefer the Lucca. I still have the Appartamento and still use it occasionally but, I use my Lucca 2-3 times a day, even more when I have company over.

[@dgasmd1]

Eager to watch the video, but based on the responses I can tell you a few things about it first hand since I've had a La Spaziale for over 10 years. Thing is a beast and you cannot kill it. Extremely reliable and extremely good service and customer support from Chriss Coffee. The 53 mm PF is not an issue, just a bit different. I have both, a 58 and a 53 mm machine, and the only real difference is that the 53mm takes almost twice as long to pull a shot given the depth, while the 58 mm is shallower and wider. Taste and everything else is indistinguishable (at least by me!). No question I find the machines ugly by all means, and it is the one thing they could seriously improve on.

[@steph8408]

No way this machine is ugly. It's special and unique like my Renault Megane 2 Sport. You either love it or hate it. Cheers.

[@dgasmd1]

@@steph8408 you are correct. It is not ugly. It simply is hideous LOL........ Hey, love the thing so much I wouldn't sell it or get anything different, but still...........Not like most La Marzocco are not ugly too. They are!

[@dayz504]

Is this good for a coffee cart?

[@danielbahula1386]

Agree that 53mm shouldn't play too much of a role in quality of the shots alone but a few questions come to mind specifically around shots consistency. How does a vibratory pump with the integrated grouphead but without a PID would stack against other vibratory machines with E61 and PIDs such as Profitec Pro 600, or even more fitting against Rancilio Silvia Pro X which besides its dual boiler/dual PID and its 1-6 sec preinfusion is also sporting a more palatable counter footprint. I've worked on a few machines in the past where I had to rely on externally-mounted brewhead thermometers for dialing in precision shots - there's certainly an added degree of complication one must factor into the workflow when thermal readings aren't available out of the box via PID or via bluetooth/app.

[@stepdad12345]

This is the best machine made! Listen to Clive Coffee (they Loved it so much they helped design the Lucca A53 with La Spaziale). E61 was invented in 1961, let it die. It is a horrible device! (not temp stable, and forever to heat, (weighs 9 lbs.). too many parts to maintain.

[@philindeblanc]

Ummm, it DOES have a PID. Just not a super wide adjustment and its more old school in the interaface, You can even offset the temp to mach the grouphead after Scace. Volumetric flowmeter as well. It gives you 1 degree from 91 to 97 temp readings. The rotary version is a 3-4 second preinfusion. Not adjustable on the water tank / vib pump model. Take another look, as your points are not reality.. The last thing I want is a app to disrupt my coffee and morning.

[@jensc.h.548]

I have seen the PID being out of calibration in the spiciale

[@kylekramer3104]

Were you using this with a 15 or 20 amp outlet?

[@anthonyvincent1547]

honest question, do you keep al the machines you review?

[@caffeinated_slacker]

Did you notice any change in taste or texture with the deeper PF basket?

[@Sprometheus]

I didn’t notice anything major in flavor or texture. Blind tasting I don’t think I’d be able to pick out the 53 over the 58.

[@adityapulungan]

I cant decide between this machine or Linea Micra. I kinda like the design of lucca and its volumetric feature. But Linea Mini use rotary and 58mm pf.

[@Sprometheus]

Ooof, yeah those are the main differences for sure. Going to be a tough choice.

[@Maybaby1959]

I thought there is an app for on and off??

[@edwinzamora4167]

Hello! When you say that you are adjusting coarser to adjust for basket depth is the result of that a larger dose? I’m currently running 21 grams and pulling 40grms in 25 and there’s still a ton of headroom in the basket. Any thoughts?

[@Sprometheus]

Yeah so I ground coarser because it’s basket is so much deeper than a 58mm basket, which allows you grind finer to create the same amount of resistance.

[@tobiasbouma4071]

This spro machine is firmly in the category of prosumer spro machines, but then it has a 53 mil PF and the quirks that you mention. For the price one would think of machines with a rotary pump, PID temperature control, 58mm and without that space limitation underneath the group"head". I'm just confused as to who they're targeting with this kind of machine, is all...

[@Sprometheus]

I think considering it’s ability to be used commercially there are a lot of small cafes and caterers who go this route. Also, many casual home baristas aren’t too crazy about portafilter size either. But at it’s price point it could definitely benefit from a rotary pump and broader PID control.

[@Popcornbeetle]

If you like the gs3 style, then this is the closest in the sub $2000 price range.

[@timgerber5563]

What’s the concern with the reduced diameter? That puck thickness will lead to less extraction? As still all water travels through the entire puck, I don’t think this would be the case. Rather I‘d think that we would see less channeling due to increased puck thickness. At least I see a strong difference in channeling when working with 15g VST or an 18g VST and I believe this is also the reason why many cafés here in Germany work with 18gs even though the drink sizes are not as inflated as in the US.

[@Sprometheus]

I think the main concern is purely lack of available tools and accessories, and then some lean on taste as the issue. In the end I don’t see much of a downside, especially as my espresso routine generally is just WDT and tamp and rarely break out other tools.

[@dgasmd1]

@@Sprometheus These days the size difference is not a hinderance on tool selection. You can find just about anything in 53 mm that you find in 58. Most of the things people see widely available in 58 are also available for 53 but it may take a couple of extra min to find them.

[@timgerber5563]

I agree. Firstly, the only tools I use and find useful are a dosing ring, a selfmade wdt tool, a leveler and a tamper. But there are 53mm dosing rings and Normcore sell their leveled tamper also for 53mm. In this case there’s no need for a leveler.

[@dumkopf]

​@@Sprometheusthat might have been the case 3 or 4 years ago. You can find anything you want these days for < 58 mm. There's never been a better time to

[@craiggles8454]

Seems the V2 A53 and A53 Mini have Bluetooth app connectivity now for auto on/off which is a great addition for home users. I’m trying to decide between the two models. Do I go the A53 that’s plumbed only but has a rotary pump, and a dial for the steam or go the Mini with a water reservoir with vibration pump and the steam lever. Need to find out if the rotary pump can fit into the mini and I’d be ecstatic but I suspect the water reservoir uses the extra space.

[@playnicegames]

The vib pump works just fine (practically identical) I wouldn’t sweat it that much

[@craiggles8454]

@@playnicegames I have early starts at work so if it’s a loud vib pump it could be a problem for me. Hence my interest in the rotary. Love the steam lever though.

[@playnicegames]

@@craiggles8454no loud at all, very quiet

[@philindeblanc]

The vibe pump is the quietest pump I have had across 3 other machines, its a lower hum than a brraaappp sound. I have moved the location of my machine twice now, so the water tank has been a plus. Yes, the steam boiler is smaller, but it certainly is not too small. Can steam a 20 oz pitcher in no time. Has LOTS of steam.

[@steph8408]

I love the steam lever on the Mini. Strange they didn't also use the steam lever on the Dream T.

[@yuri5628]

Clive Coffee has 10% restocking fee to buy any machine. I got bad experience with Lucca and got 10% fee when I returned it. Flow meter in Lucca is not working very well.

[@buttermilkpie]

Nice shirt

[@Sprometheus]

Thank you!

[@thekillsquad]

Came here to say this. You already had. But that shirt is dope.

[@bjfeerus]

☕☕☕ Love Is Important ...❤

[@Sprometheus]

Love and coffee ☕️

[@bjfeerus]

@@Sprometheus at Malaysia we call Kopi Kaw, Kopi tarik n Kopi O...

[@dark13star]

I had a Dream T for 8 years and this seams like a significant downgrade for machines that are now selling for $100 difference. I did like the machine a lot and had a good morning routine with it, but every time I needed to replace a part, it was a nightmare. I replaced the pump once (not bad) and the steam boiler (complete pain) and then all the wires became brittle and started shorting out. I've moved on to an ECM Synchronika and it is more work, but I bought it for the ease of maintenance. That said, the ECM pulls much better shots too.

[@dancingmischief]

Stay classy, Spro

[@jasoncasale3708]

I had a Vivalid V II and had issues. It was not as thermally stable as a la marrzocco. I I felt it was always trending lower in temp during the extraction so I thought the shots are under developed. Ristretto shots always bordered on over extraction and were never consistent for me. I sold it to my brother and and gave up on it because it never achieved what I wanted from espresso..

[@philindeblanc]

I thought this initially, until I took the time to set it up. I do use a manual extraction time and volume, so it is more manual used than press and forget. But it does stable temps, once you do the Scace group adjustment. The Lucca A53 is pre calibrated.

[@gtslade22]

Is this the same size as Breville portafilters and accessories?

[@sebastiansaucedo9965]

Yes, it is the same size

[@philindeblanc]

The Breville has a 3 ear portafilter, this has 2. The handle is M12.

[@SeanGordon-ym4yf]

I personally prefer the look to a shiny E61 machine

[@darkmann12]

I feel like it would've been nice for the machine to be more visually consistent - a wood (effect) UI panel along with the wood sides, or sleeker sides to match the plain black interface. As it is, it looks kind of like an awkward clash of modern and retro to my eyes.

[@PaulLemars01]

The base machine comes all black. The side panels are easy and cheap to replace ($40). Clive Coffee commissioned the wood panels and furniture as a value add. Of course, you could hydro dip the side panels with a carbon fiber print and finish with an automotive cherry candy glaze over the top but that would be far too garish and tasteless for an Italian espresso machine.

[@darkmann12]

@@PaulLemars01 Aha, I see. I find hydrodipped carbon effect quite tacky as I work with carbon fibre on the day-by-day. I like that the base machine is all black though, that definitely improves things

[@whosgonnadotcom]

Stay classy, San Diego

[@Sprometheus]

Always do.

[@admiralspliffyt]

Why on earth would anyone buy such an expensive machine with a reduced size portafilter (not implying ANYTHING at all except for what's in the market) and a vibration pump? Especially the pump....why? What am I missing?

[@Sprometheus]

The market is full of lots of different machines with lots of different features, that’s like asking why someone would buy an E61 over a saturated group, or a semi-auto over a lever. It’s all preferences.

[@luckcab]

You really have to try it for yourself and see. I have this and a gcp and it is comparatively much better, more usable, and way more consistent. Especially if you are entertaining or making coffee for events. Also you don't need to get the wooden panels they add like $500 to the price of the machine.

[@LumiLunar]

From what I heard a smaller / taller puck reduces channeling. It's just one aspect but I think that's a plus.

[@tylergarrett8066]

​@@luckcabConsistentcy was why I upgraded. The thermostability and reproduction of taste from shot to shot has dramatically improved

[@stepdad12345]

you are missing the machine with a front loading reservoir(great for under counter kitchen cabinets), programmed espresso shots, dual boilers (PID). NSF rated for commercial use, fast warm up with faster recovery (both boiler are active after warmup!). Large drip tray, and a great price point! 53 mm portafilter is not a factor for me. Oh, and makes great espresso and lot's of dry steam!

[@amansawhney3318]

This used to be the best for its price when it was cheap. At $2900 the pride of this machine has inflated way too much.

[@PaulLemars01]

I bought mine for $1900 at a Clive sale (they happen all the time). The machine retails for $2200 max but Clive adds wood furniture as a 'value upgrade'.

[@psalmreader909]

all together with a direct plumb which is a rotary pump runs 2665, still half the price for small commercial setting machines.

[@nibsabbath1825]

It looks like a car interior 😅

[@AntMelz]

I think it’s downside is a lack of preinfusion adjustment and pressure adjustment. It’s just a basic machine.

[@hankrousseau4127]

Right about the preinfusion, but both brew and steam pressure are fully adjustable.

[@philindeblanc]

the pressure is adjustable.

[@marcin.sobocinski]

For me it's hard to grasp why there is no one standard diameter for baskets. You have 58 mm, what's the point in pushing other diameters (history doesn't count)? With such a plethora of accessories, knowing how espresso making can turn (and very commonly turns) into hobby it's not rational for me to rip your customers off that joy of experimenting with screens, WDT tools (soon mechanized ones), baskets, tampers (spring loaded or those linear ones that make every tamp perfectly even) etc. It's shortsighted and not strategic IMO.

[@rogerchapa6461]

Might be a good question for James Hoffman. I believe he was sponsored by La Spaz and I'm sure he has some insight.

[@dumkopf]

La pavoni and Olympia Cremina have been around for 50+ years of with 49 and 51 mm baskets. Flair created its own niche with a 45 mm. 58 mm isn't the end all be all.

[@coreycannon4511]

First! Damn. Beaten by seconds!

[@Sprometheus]

Haha so close, yet so far.

[@coreycannon4511]

@@Sprometheus I first typed “fist”. I think editing cost me, lol.

[@dan110024]

Ew that gauge. Surely they could have fitted something a bit more elegant. And they couldn't have put the product spec stickers on the back? So weird seeing the machine does look nice, and then it has these gigantic ugly things just whacked on there. And then there's the gauge flutter. They couldn't have used an oil filled gauge? Seems like for such an expensive machine with nice material choices, they really dropped the ball.

[@msyedx]

first

[@Sprometheus]

🏆

[@Unitedstatesgov598]

nope

[@mineulekarru]

53???? pass

[@Sprometheus]

And there’s the potential obstacle. Consumers belief that size matters.

[@paulgibbons2370]

I have two friends with this machine. Even with the 53mm portafilter I would highly consider this for a home machine if I didn’t already have my Bianca. The steam power on this machine is closer to that of a full size commercial machine.

[@pfeliciano5976]

This machine is ugly compared to the Micra

[@Sprometheus]

It’s not my favorite looking machine, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[@commentator2.0]

Lol the Linea machines are pretty ugly too. La Marzocco hype just let’s people see past it tho

[@stepdad12345]

Agree, but it makes awesomely fast Lattes!

[@handshake883]

That's one ugly looking machine.

[@DigitalicaEG]

Looks like a 60s car stereo