The ULTIMATE performance hatchback? 2023 Honda Civic Type R review (FL5)

[@Mmm66689]

I got my Aussie delivery 1 month ago and I put 1000km in a week. and I think it’s worth every dollar and I think its a great for that price. Before I drive the car I think it is over priced and should be around $55-60k drive away and I signed my contract last year subject to test drive. However as soon I test drive it I am couldn’t wait to get my type r every day. And I sold my recent 2022 BRZ for the type r in my already full garage. It is not just another hot hatch. It is a special car, it is GT3 in a FF world like many KZbinr said. The N is the best value for money hot hatch without doubt, but all great product never linked to value for money. If it has a European badge it’s easily priced for over $100k. The difference is not on spec sheet, it is the attention to detail from the type r engineers put into made this car special.

[@therightcar]

Sounds like you’re going to be a great advocate for it!

[@helloworld8250]

I am on the same boat, planning to sell my ZD8 to get a Type R (or maybe GR Yaris, but leaning towards Type R). How are you finding it so far? Any regrets?

[@kmuinde]

This is a car I would buy in a heartbeat

[@therightcar]

I would too, if I had the cash.

[@steverodwell2952]

Waiting for mine to arrive, a few weeks away. I am looking forward to it. Sonic Grey. Good review thanks Matt.

[@cookie_boi]

Hi Matt..... Excellent review....i got mine last Friday in Championship White...this looks a million times better than the FK8 which looks like a melted transformer....i previously had a GR Yaris before which was great but sitting position, stop start, high beams and rear view mirror position were awful....this is so much more refined....options are a bit $$ (i also order OEM accessories from PRL motorsports in the US)...cheap $199 capped services....a bit pricey yes but resale in the future should be great....thanks again 🍻🍻🍻

[@Waheeda-kl8lt]

Excellent review. Your videos are very interesting and informative

[@Enron3000]

Dope video Matt. Front looks so good. Rear could have been so much better.

[@therightcar]

Thank you! Glad you liked it.

[@maxcarter970]

I feel the same way Matt. Places my order a few weeks ago!

[@therightcar]

Amazing!! What colour?

[@antonilavin2488]

A typically great, honest review. On the lack of a spare tyre, the simple comment ’I guess it depends where you live’ shows that Matt gets this issue. I live 50 kms from town and my wife and I are often driving home at night. Not a place I want my wife stuck on the side of the road awaiting assistance that may take hours to come. Very few places to safely park, heaps of big trucks on the Cunningham Highway. Great car, great review.

[@therightcar]

Thank you mate! Yep, I grew up in the country so I understand the notion of the spare wheel also being a crucial safety net.

[@philochristos]

The thing I like about that car is that you can be a dad during the day and batman at night.

[@therightcar]

Bingo!

[@jgj7879]

I'm considering parting ways with my 2019 bmw m140i for this thing. Will take one for a test drive this weekend

[@AmberKwow]

What an interesting review. Keep up the good work.

[@therightcar]

Thank you kindly!

[@petertruong9533]

This car looks great in black 😍

[@AmeerBuxBhayo-y1c]

Happy new month to you 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@jackflowers999]

Mine is on order for Feb 2024 in Champion White!

[@therightcar]

Awesome! I’m sure you’re going to LOVE it.

[@Daniel-xb3ot]

The back retractable cover comes off.

[@tonycoz2309]

That car looks like fun personified.

[@therightcar]

Or fun… objectified? 🤣

[@mixupchannel643]

Marvellous work ❤

[@Ali-w3s1h]

Excellent job 🎉

[@ChKashifRasheed]

Nice review

[@rubyred8845]

JDM quality. I'd go for the red colour.

[@hartmutthomas989]

Dieser FL5 bleibt spannend . Ob es jetzt aufgrund der Abmessungen noch ein echter hot Hatch, ist sei dahin gestellt .

[@AmirZaib-rx7ov]

Nice driving

[@MasterMind-io6bp]

Looks Great

[@ANMS_Family]

Nice Drive

[@GlowingTube]

It’s is an epic sports car!

[@imranjaved9673]

I love Honda Civic❤❤

[@MuhammadUmairTahir-bo9df]

Very nice Honda Civic . Excellent 👍♥️♥️💯

[@MirzaZahid-q4x]

Excellent Honda Civic car ❤

[@IqraahmadIqra]

Enjoying ride

[@351tgv]

glad you enjoyed it but again not a vehicle I would never consider. If I was in tis market segment the Hyundai i30 N or if I could find one brand new the now discontinued Focus ST probably in auto (yes you read that correctly), that said with that type of torque and top end power AWD should be offered.

[@therightcar]

The auto Focus ST was a great car. And a relative bargain.

[@351tgv]

@@therightcar YES and I am ANGRY at Ford for discounting it as I was planning on buying one*, I did have a extended drive of the Hyundai i30 N but the DCT annoyed me so much, yes its quick and yes its near fuss free once up and running at speed BUT the shutter/stuttering once you let go of the brake peddle in traffic was driving me nuts that I ruled it out (yes I know there is manual version but I am not a fan of manual transmissions). *I had one lined up with the local regional dealership only to be told that ford planed on bring on 55ish and that there were others on the list well before me, and to make it worse the had MARKED them all up, I even tried my contact at Fleet Services to get one and no can do. Anyway, no matter what can you do.

[@therightcar]

I hear you mate. Ford has made some curious moves in Australia.

[@JacesOwnWorld]

The CTR is a great car at $38k max. I don’t see why people buy it for anything more than that. But, there are a bunch of retards out there. So 🤷‍♂️

[@lukelawrence6007]

Id buy this in a heartbeat but a car that costs nearly almost 80k at the dealership

[@therightcar]

The "dealership" shouldn't be charging more than Honda's "agency model" allows it to. $72,000 is the price. Don't pay more -- unless it's a demo and then they can ask whatever they want, really.

[@lukelawrence6007]

@@therightcar yea bro it's this or a house deposit

[@kashifsajjad-u7p]

Nice ride

[@FunStation873]

Nice

[@96libertytt]

Buckle up...here we go

[@maryamnawaz22]

Amazing

[@balutvm2008]

Hey Matt, Type R is out of budget. Can you please also review some affordable manual ones like Kia Picanto GTline, Swift Sport etc ?

[@therightcar]

My Picanto review was of the GT - which is great and manual and cheaaaaaap. Not sure if I’ll get to the Swift, but will try. New-gen model due next year so might have to wait for that!

[@balutvm2008]

@@therightcar Please try, today I saw 32k drive way price for Swift Sport manual

[@badbeatking80]

The previous version looks better. Yes its wild in its looks but thats what made that car unique. I saw this type R on the road and it was just meh. An accord with a wing os what i thought (imo)

[@therightcar]

Great thing about opinions, everyone is entitled to one.

[@JacesOwnWorld]

@@therightcar true, but some opinions can be pure retard though 🤷‍♂️

[@ThePegi27]

CTR 4 me. The question is black or white.

[@therightcar]

I couldn’t buy a black car. I get annoyed at dirty.

[@ThePegi27]

Thats the thing why o wonder buy or not black car.

[@unclelive6918]

All the hot hatches are shaking 🫨

[@JacesOwnWorld]

No they aren’t. Track times only see the CTR being barely, and I mean barely, faster than other hot hatches. No, I’m not talking about tracks like the Nurburgring, but more so tracks that CTR owners will mostly be driving on. That is, much smaller and tighter tracks. And for that split millisecond of a time difference, that really just comes down to how good a driver is over another anyways, CTR owners are paying well over $30k more for it over other hot hatches. Sorry, none of the other hot hatches are “shaking” lol.

[@globalroamer1900]

LC300 review please

[@zulfiqarghaffari5326]

powerful car

[@balutvm2008]

All the reviews say its the best hot hatch on sale now. I am not thinking of buying one but i am thinking if someone could do a comparison between Type R and Alfa Romeo Guilia Veloce ?

[@therightcar]

I wouldn’t even think of the Giulia as being in the same conversation as this car.

[@balutvm2008]

@@therightcar It's not only with Guilia but referring to all performance sedans and hot hatches under 100k.

[@hareemdilawaizkhan9237]

Good one

[@gregj3515]

It would be great if those numnuts at Honda Australia decided to bring in the Si model...

[@therightcar]

There’s a lot of great Honda models we don’t get…!

[@AtifKhan-fw5jd]

Good black colour car

[@therightcar]

Very good!

[@b.p.r.]

Can you please review the normal one? 🙏🙏🙏

[@therightcar]

If I get a chance. So many cars, so little time (to edit).

[@b.p.r.]

@@therightcar yeah I totally understand

[@AsgherKhan-b1h]

Gooooooood

[@therightcar]

Thanks

[@JacesOwnWorld]

Let’s be 100% honest here people. Is the new CTR, and even the last generation, really even a real hot hatch? I know Honda designed it to function like a hatchback, but it is clearly more sedan looking in design…

[@therightcar]

What’s wrong with that?

[@jimmy-the-bear]

It’s got a hatch…on the back 🤷‍♂️

[@MrShurik3n]

Would be fun to pit it against an A35.

[@shaziasaaqib]

God car to enjoy life

[@eyes2338]

Don't want the cracks and pops to be honest

[@therightcar]

Buy a standard Civic? 🤷‍♂️

[@eyes2338]

@therightcar why ? The type r doesn't crack and pop which is what the reviewer is saying.

[@smlines9836]

👍👍👍

[@AbdulMuqeetZafarIqbal]

Wow

[@operationgetthugs232]

How is this more than $60K?

[@therightcar]

That’s Honda Australia for you. But you’re paying similar or more for a Golf R on the road.

[@Pedroaghyu]

It sounds loud and you looked like you were bouncing around non stop

[@therightcar]

And is that a problem? Haha! I was driving on a rubbish country road in the firmest suspension setting. And it was thrilling.

[@operationgetthugs232]

Why engine sounds like bumblebee?

[@therightcar]

Bumblebee makes me happy. Does bumblebee not make you happy?

[@mvnorsel6354]

Wonder if the thrill diminishes after 6 months and you just end up driving normally😅?

[@bazinga615]

Yes. And after a couple of years, Pretty much every EV in the same price range will burn this off the lights.

[@therightcar]

Who cares about burning things off at the lights? No EV I’ve driven is anywhere near as much as fun as this!!

[@bazinga615]

@@therightcar hot hatches were supposed to be reasonably priced good value cars. That concept is gone. At over $70k this is a joke like most other similar hot over priced hatches. The fact is EVs make speed seem so trivial and the only way regular ICE cars can only stay in touch is with a manual transmission or something to differentiate. These things will seem (already do) as something of a bygone era. Pretending you’re a race car driver to justify is hilarious as the compelling reason to buy one.

[@tonymillar5342]

​@bazinga615 . As much as an EV can pin your ears back with acceleration, an EV will Never, Never, excite your ears and the rest of your body like 7,000 rpm does !!!

[@tonymillar5342]

​@@therightcarSee my reply to Bazinga below Matt. Nothing can replace 7,000 rpm !

[@everymangamer1608]

Bro you were bouncing around like no ones business 😂

[@loulerg]

I think you meant to say porpoising 😂😂

[@mandoavelar9955]

why is it so expensive

[@therightcar]

Because it’s a Honda in Australia in 2023.

[@mharro88]

The i30n sedan DCT is quicker than this. There definitely isn't a 20k difference in performance and I've driven both. Its definitely better than the older i30n hatch platform but on track the newer sedan comes very close to this if not more fun to drive and live with on the street. Its definitely back to awesome honda of old this car but i wouldnt pay 72k for it.

[@351tgv]

yeah but the lame duck DCT, screw Hyundai for the stupid DCT transmission, its awful when driving in day to day situations the shudder/stuttering on take off no thanks not interested especially if you live in Sydney in high traffic areas like I do, it would drive me crazy.

[@mharro88]

@@351tgv what are you talking about? The wet clutch new 8 speed DCT in the i30n sedan has none of those issues. It's better than a VW DSG and near porches PDK it's that good. Reliability is still to be questioned though. You're talking about the dry clutch 7 speed DCT that Hyundai put in their lower trims. That has low speed stuttering.

[@351tgv]

Nope I drove a i30 N DCT in Sydney traffic and is was pure hell with so much shudder and stuttering in crawling conditions it out me right off for considering the i30 N as a day to day car, just awful crap, that said once at speed it was quick but what's the point of you need to be doing over 70 to 90km/h to get the best out of the transmission, the drive through the National Park (Sydney south) was brutal at low speed corner so much torque steer it was not a good feeling, I'd rather the manual version but again not a fan of manual transmissions.

[@kuracodovce7514]

The i30n DCT did a Nurburing time of 8 minutes and 5 seconds while the Type R did it in 7 minutes and 44 seconds. That's not remotely close performance, not even taking into account the fact the Type R is manual. That difference in time is the same as if you were to compare the Type R to a Ferrari 488 GTB...........

[@mharro88]

@@kuracodovce7514 the i30n hatch isn't even remotely close in performance to the sedan anyway. The sedan is on a newer superior performing platform. The DCT is tuned differently, it's lighter and quicker in every way. So that time is irrelevant. To a quarter mile the dct N sedan is quicker than the type r every time. On track it would be close. The sedan managed to beat last gens type r on track in a few videos on here.

[@muhammadnawaz5411]

❤😂🎉😊😅😊😅😊😅

[@operationgetthugs232]

$72K and prop rod.

[@therightcar]

Who is Rod?

[@RanaFaisal-mk9yb]

Hd

[@therightcar]

Hmmmm?

[@operationgetthugs232]

Buy & live the rest of your life in financial ruin.

[@aboutcars3689]

one day we will get an automatic for this

[@iqraahmad86]

Enjoying ride

[@shakeelqureshi6771]

Nice