2023 Honda Civic Type-R review. Is this, the last solely petrol-powered Type-R, also the best?

[@MrEMrC]

My dad worked with the people from Honda at Cowley, when they were working out how to put the Honda Legend together. The managers welcomed the workers everyday, and asked the team who were putting it together for their opinion on everything to do with the car. With that attitude, it is no surprise that they get it right.

[@hhaste]

There's still a lot they got wrong as well, though.. from the factory, anyway. Of course those issues can all be fixed with aftermarket parts but there's some things that should have been done differently, imo.

[@PaulEnglish-cq4ms]

@@hhasteSuch as!?🤷‍♂️

[@TassieLorenzo]

Would you say the Honda Legend Saloon/Rover 827 Fastback was a better car on the whole than the predecessor Rover SD1? it's ironic that the classic V8 RWD SD1 is far more collectable even though the 827 Fastback is roughly the same shape and is objectively better in every way (more powerful, faster, more interior space due to FWD, more fuel efficient, possibly more reliable etc). Car buyers, particularly classic car buyers, are not rational. 🙂

[@PaulEnglish-cq4ms]

@@TassieLorenzo For sure you’re right the Honda Legend/Rover 827 (Honda engined as you’re no doubt aware was a good collaboration with the Honda engine & gearbox which is what Honda do brilliantly coupled with the Rover experience of ride/handling & suspension experience and good seats & interiors. The 2675cc Honda motor I think from memory was much torquier than the previous 2.5L version which was lacking in torque. The 2.7L engine was a longer stroke version I believe with offset crankpins so it’s a 90 degree V6 (more normally 60 degree for inherent balance) to obtain a lower bonnet line. I loved the Roy Axe design especially the non facelifted version, so uncluttered lines. I once fancied buying one. An interesting fact I believe a standard 2.7litre can’t remember if it was the Honda or the Rover 827. Nevertheless with just minor upgrades presumably for performance and safety, think the car just had upgraded brake pads, slick tyres a fire extinguisher. It was piloted by a helmeted Tony Pond and achieved an average speed of 100mph which was no mean feat back then.

[@PaulEnglish-cq4ms]

@@TassieLorenzo Yes I definitely would. You're not wrong there the price some classic cars go for are crazy. I am subscribed to 'CAR Magazine' and its funny but some of the top designer/engineers of our generation when asked, modern car or classic often choose the modern car due to better brakes safety handling etc. Looks is always subjective i suppose.....

[@future62]

I genuinely can't recall the last time Harry was so excited while driving a car. That alone is a testiment to how great this thing is.

[@relentlesspursuit6894]

The GR Yaris

[@Dranreb865]

Old hags only appreciate old jags. Just like real riders they think a real motorcycle is only a Harley

[@operationgetthugs232]

What bollocks. The car seems awful.

[@future62]

@@operationgetthugs232 so since you hate this thing nobody is allowed to like it?

[@stevenmcgeorge1983]

He wasn't that excited. He even said that it struggles for traction and the GR Yaris is better.

[@dtaylor9673]

Genuine enthusiasm from Harry, a man who has some of the most desirable super cars ever made. The new Honda Type R must be very good!

[@simonshearing8704]

Happy to see Harry's opinion on the FL5, makes me even more excited for Wednesday when mine arrives!

[@JerryFlint6]

Get mine on Wednesday too from Grantham.

[@Chriskreepa]

Jaysus, you paid that money for a type r?! I mean, fair play but still…

[@JoshuaC923]

Wow congratulations to you two, it's always nice to have a new car smell👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🎉

[@dblue7711]

Its £13k cheaper than an A45 or an RS3 (And a better car)

[@shartpocalypse]

Congrats!

[@Donglethegreatone]

I have just taken delivery of my FL5, after owning two FK8 models. The sum of all the FL5 tweaks, although small, makes a noticeable difference. To say I am loving this iteration of the Type R is an understatement. Such an enjoyable car to drive. Admittedly, the small boy in me liked the crazy look of the FK8, but the adult in me assures me the more refined palette of design choices was the right move by Honda.

[@archiepezek]

I always enjoy your car reviews Harry. I thank you for not spending 15 minutes of the video going through all of the menus and assorted features of the infotainment system like other car reviewers seem to need to do.

[@d33b33]

It's the only place where the electric cars differ. It's the only thing that reviewers have left to review. I'm exaggerating but not by much, Doug DeMuro's review of the Nissan Ariya... it's a washing machine, it has neither quirks nor features.

[@kristisrb]

@@d33b33 Would disagree, tech is very very important and a differentiator, but there are a lot of other differences in these EVs (maybe even more than commuter ICE cars tbh) but most buyers don't notice and don't care. That doesn't mean the differences are not there.

[@MdvK13979]

@@kristisrb Ed Bolean described driving an EV as the event being diminished to doing a chore, like doing the laundry, or vacuum cleaning. I tend to agree, EV's are white goods.

[@getthecansin]

​@@kristisrb you're clearly not a car person, engines etc are visceral, something as simple as a manual gear change is pure driving, evs are just transport....nothing more

[@getthecansin]

​@@kristisrb when you press the on button on a Wasing machine yes it just goes...fast.......driving is more than just a to b

[@danmayberry1185]

Love how Harry steps out of a Lotus, into a Honda, and remains objective.

[@flyingsushi313]

That's the big difference between a journalist and an influencer. Harry is top notch!

[@celliott16]

The fl5 is being compared to a gt3 by a lot of serious owners, I dare say the lotus isn't much, if any, of an upgrade to the civic 🤷

[@humunahumunaha9770]

@@celliott16 lol

[@humunahumunaha9770]

@@celliott16 but love this car! And the emira!

[@romulus_]

@@celliott16 parallels were drawn in a few aspects. but clearly not exactly an apples to.apples comparison.

[@nateisright]

The interior design, materials, colours and fit are fantastic. The exterior design is mature and sober (save for the shopping cart handle and ridiculous triple exhaust outlets). A Honda in the same line as the original NSX. Well done.

[@choosedarkness]

How can you say you like the type r and then not get the wing and exhausts lol 😂😂😂😂

[@J88HNT]

Type-R’s are such great cars. I have owned every model, EK9, EP3, FN2 and currently have the FK2. I couldn’t bring myself to get the FK8 even though it’s a great car. The FL5 looks amazing and am thinking I’ll be in one soon. Seeing Harry have so much fun in an R is great to see. He’s driven the best of the best so the FL5 must be good for him to be so happy to be driving one. 🙏🏽

[@celliott16]

Ditto (plus all the tegs here too), apart from I couldn't get away with the looks of the fk2 or fk8, bagged an fl5 slot though, can't wait.

[@TassieLorenzo]

The FK2 is still my favourite turbo Type R! I don't think either newer model has moved the game on that much. A lot of the later upgrades like the two-piece brakes or single mass flywheel will bolt straight onto a FK2 as far as I know. ☺

[@J88HNT]

@@TassieLorenzo 💯% I also bought the FK2 because of it’s rarity. 8007 built and sold world wide. In the United Kingdom there are 2250 FK2's sold which are split up as follows: Championship White, 525 cars / Milano red, 469 cars / Crystal Black Pearl, 448 cars / Brilliant Sporty Blue, 411 cars / Polished Metal Metallic, 396 cars. A future collectors car.

[@tdoteva4973]

Same here I had a lot of 1.4 1.5 1.6 yeah I can see me dreaming bout this fl5

[@yokevlee]

@J88HNT how would you compare ek9, ep3, fn2? and how would rate your preference of those 3? thx in adv!

[@sdlausen1]

Holy! Is this real? Harry FINALLY reviews something that isn't British, German, or Italian.

[@frankphipps]

I've watched so many reviews and I truly believe yours is the best. Love the fly by shots to hear the sound and the little bursts you do. Awesome

[@qwerty69600]

Same response I posted on the older CTR video. The 3 exhausts are actually functional and a clever engineering design that allows the engine to sound good at low speeds, but not drone at high speeds. There's plenty of info online about it. I do like this channel, but this was another stark reminder that Harry is just another car reviewer and by no means any kind of authority to talk on the engineering or technical details of the cars he reviews.

[@steve83jack]

Agreed. Same with the comment on the side vent on the FK8, it was functional. I have an fk8

[@SHOVEL33]

Surprising you never mentioned the gear change Harry…….regarded as one of the best manual boxes of any car ever

[@oambrosia]

Has Honda ever done a bad one? Even the one in my 1991 Accord was excellent.

[@nikolagregic7709]

Honda have best manual shifters in the World. So nothing strange.

[@SHOVEL33]

I think ye may be misunderstanding me…..the gear change in this latest Type R is stand out……it is being regarded as of of the best manual changes Of any car ever built….I’m just surprised it wasn’t mentioned……every other respected car journalist has mentioned it as being one of its most desirable assets I never mentioned anything about Honda not having nice manual gearbox’s in general…….but this gearbox is described as totally flawless

[@SHOVEL33]

And BTW…..I love Harry’s vids…… he is a total gentleman,and one of my favourite car gurus…….he is fantastic

[@ekimandersom4478]

@@SHOVEL33 Whatever.

[@BigBear--]

I seem to always have to correct some reviewers on the following. The front bumper side "fake vents" (as they call them), are actually a functional aspect of the aero setup. They are air kickouts, to maintain a laminal flow of air past the front wheel well, rather than sending a turbulent flow that gets sucked into the wheel well. Reason is because they have air rams in the front to pump cool air into the front brake setup, and a vent in the back of the wheel well to let that air out - it maintains a low pressure zone without letting high pressure buildup which leads to front end lift. If they didn't have these side air kickouts the air going around the front bumper would get sucked into the wheel well and interrupt that low pressure flow. The other point is he claims the rear diffuser isn't functional. That's also incorrect, the bottom of the car is almost complet flatly sealed. In particular the engineers paid attention to the rear diffuser this time around and made it even more functional than the FK8. All the aero on this car is functional, none of it is just for show. That's another thing I love about this latest generation Type-R.

[@jeremyb4493]

Good info, however painting part of it black does give it a resemblance of a non functional inlet so the misunderstanding isn't surprising.

[@BigBear--]

​@@jeremyb4493 It's not like its a standalone item painted black. Its part of the front splitter that flows into that air kickout.

[@CerberusTenshi]

Same goes for the FK8. The vents reviewers claim are fake are actually functional.

[@BigBear--]

@@CerberusTenshi Yeah...while it has some functional pieces, It also has a bunch of fake vents.

[@CerberusTenshi]

@@BigBear-- Granted, some pieces are not functional in terms of aero, but I rather have them as design points, than have the car look like an EQE. Also, as with the Supra, it's an easy fix to turn those fake vents into real ones. There are plenty of options. From low budget to big budget.

[@MegaRetr]

Happy to see Harry's opinion on the FL5

[@julianpmg]

I'm picking a red one up in two weeks...and can't wait. I know it is expensive....but what isn't these days....and every new model jumps up in price.....! And for something so good and so rare...surely it's worth it!!

[@StrongerThanEver84]

my red one should be here within 3 weeks too :)

[@millicentgranger6035]

Hows the cars 🚗 , live up too expectation?

[@dominicrusho]

Given how good the standard Civic is, it would be fantastic if Honda reintroduced the Type S as a warm variant at a more accessible price point

[@DoubleDeckerAnton]

If Harry's having fun, then its worth buying.

[@UpTheAnte1987]

The styling is an improvement. How could it not be? But the black spoiler on the rear gives me vibes of the family car you sometimes see parked outside Halfords

[@apolloandratti7922]

Great review Harry! I would like to see you revisit the S2000 as we close the pure internal combustion age for Honda. Subscribers: Please reply here if you are willing to let Harry drive your S2000 in the UK. Ideally the car would be mostly in stock form, preserving the original ethos of the car.

[@MuadDib1402]

He can borrow mine if he wants. :)

[@apolloandratti7922]

@@MuadDib1402 excellent!! I hope Harry reads this.

[@hanseriksson6742]

He can borrow mine, which is 100% stock except from a K&N FIPK. I see his favourite test road from my window the B4437 west of Charlbury - in fact I often see Harry there.

[@steveskipper6473]

The ultimate evolution of the FWD hot hatch which all started in 1976 with just 108hp.

[@TassieLorenzo]

​@One Issue Voter True, but the first "hot" front wheel drive Honda, the 1300 Coupe 9 had about 115hp from a to 1.3L air cooled engine which was a very good output for a 60's car. . If the first post refers to the Golf GTI, many would argue the case of the Mini Cooper S or Alfa Romeo Alfasud (albeit both cars originally with a boot) as being the first hot hatch.

[@MrManBuzz]

​@@TassieLorenzo The Autobianchi A112 Abarth also has a strong argument to he called the first hot hatch.

[@JeremiBulakowski]

@@MrManBuzz Steve probably meant about Golf I GTI which was unveiled in 1976.

[@MrManBuzz]

@@JeremiBulakowski I know but that's a misnomer. It isn't the first hot hatch. Hell, even the Renault 5 Gordini came out before the Golf GTI did. The Golf was definitely the most successful of the first hot hatches, no denying that, but it wasn't the first.

[@ant647448336]

Very nice! I've got the bog standard Mk11 Civic hybrid and it's brilliant. Great fun to drive and still surprises me with how much power is available pretty much immediately.

[@Android-vk8yh]

Apparently you're hybrid is amazing off the line. Very torguey was very tempted to get it as a family car just out of my price range. Your hybrid will probably be the platform for the next R.

[@pl1068]

I remember when the 1995 Volvo 850 T-5R with 240 bhp was the limit front wheel drive could handle, it looks like the engineers will always find a solution.

[@anthonybrand6137]

Thanks for another honest review Harry. There really is a lot to like about this car, until you get to the price!

[@jamsxr]

Thanks Harry. The practically element helped get it passed the gatekeeper 😅 Can’t wait to get mine.

[@davidgrover2665]

Great video Harry - this car has so much better styling - fair play to Honda for listening to customer feedback! 👏👏👏👏

[@tomriley5790]

One thing I love about Harry's reviews is that despite being someone who's driven the balls of cars in the past and clearly has an appreciation for performance and driving on track. his reviews alway include how the cars can be used in reality/daily life storage, practicality and how they woudl be to live with add to that his experience of communicating and you really feel you have an understanding of the spirit of the car and how it would be to live with as awell as the raw numbers. By far the best car reviews on the internet that I know of.

[@nattcharles]

Love Hondas. Was one of the first to import an EK9 and DC5. Two of my favourite cars of the 30+ cars I’ve had. Currently got a 2017 NSX NC1 it wears a Honda badge although not strictly Honda as made by Acura in the USA nonetheless it feels Honda.

[@iamspyvspy3077]

EK9 ftw max Vtec YO :D

[@TedwardDrives]

Glad to hear it Harry!

[@Cyro268]

Glad to see Tedward's comment here as well!

[@REVLIMITER3]

2023 Honda Civic Type R is the best Honda ever made hands down !!!

[@saucey99]

this type r is beating supercars on track its wild!

[@dazfrombramley]

Always have a soft spot for Type R civics. I had an EP3 for 11 years and I abused the heck out of it every day and it never once missed a beat, cost me pennies in maintenance and it was the most fun car I've owned. I still would be tempted to come out of my Tesla Model 3 performance for one of these, if the EV used market has just taken a huge dump

[@brucedriffill7668]

Good to see they've not tried to get rid of all the imperfections, gives the car a bit of character and also means the driver has to think about how to drive round them. Can't believe the power, used to around 240 bhp was seen to be the limit for FWD

[@devilsoffspring5519]

Essentially any amount of power can be used with an FWD car, you just can't make use of most of it until you're going fast enough to be in the higher gears. Mash it in first and you get powdered rubber instead of acceleration.

[@Jpjc474]

This is the review of the FL5 I’ve been waiting for! Thanks Harry.

[@danpatterson8009]

Glad to see they toned down the styling. Think I'd prefer that much power through the rear wheels, though.

[@TassieLorenzo]

Wouldn't we all! But almost none of the mid-sized "executive" sedans are actually available with a manual transmission anymore. While with the disappearance of the BMW, now literally none of the C-segment hatchbacks have rear wheel drive. Edit - Where the Genesis G70, rear wheel drive, and Hyundai i30N, front wheel drive, share the same engine, the G70 weighs 150kg more for some reason. You could get a manual in both but the general flavour of the G70 isn't as sporty as the N for whatever reason.

[@ekimandersom4478]

@@TassieLorenzo BMW 240i is

[@TassieLorenzo]

@@ekimandersom4478 True, but that's a coupe. The hatchback and sedan -- the 128ti, M135i xDrive and M235i Gran Coupe xDrive are both front wheel drive based or FWD + a Haldex-style system.

[@tedt7991]

That is a huge car, looks bigger than a c class, now way this is a hot hatch, a saloon yes

[@mohammadsattar5488]

He had a constant smile.on his face which shows just how good that car is and how down to earth Harry is too.

[@patrickhostler5939]

You wonder why Honda don’t increase production, if the demand is there! Great to see a ‘practical family’ car that focuses on fun, driving engagement and performance. £47k is a lot of dough though

[@cw205mi16]

That interior looks nice, first Japanese interior I've been impressed with. Even better it appears to have the perfect balance of screen tech and physical controls. Exterior looks good but the triple exhaust should be an option and a more subtle exhaust as standard.

[@jackflowers999]

I have the one in classic champion white ,,,no regrets....love it every day!

[@baywong893]

Love these reviews - please can you do a GR Yaris Vs FL5 comparison?

[@CU-nz9ud]

These things look incredible in 3D….in real life…. on the road. Much better than on tv.

[@nahidrahman]

Perfection. Love this car, and in real life probably the only car you’d ever need. I was blown away by how amazing the FK8 was to drive, I can imagine this just perfecting upon it. ❤ 🇯🇵

[@Steve-gc5nt]

I'm so happy that Honda have now learned how to do a dashboard.

[@newbeginnings8566]

It is a great vehicle.. I was in a blue one and I was surprised at how much I liked the colour.. The engine is a gem, the chassis feels so secure.. Reliable Honda made in Japan.. If you have the money just go and get one.. It's worth it.

[@dblue7711]

You can try - all sold out and long waiting lists. Pay a premium for a del miles one your only option (in the UK anyway)

[@johnbrown3951]

I nearly bought the Type R Civic in 2002 to replace my Accord 1.8 but instead went with a Freelander and am glad I did as my job moved me to an island where fuel costs were greatly increased and four wheel drive was a bonus. I recently got a Rally Red Civic 2019 with the 180hp and I love it and the toys and fuel consumption really surprised me. It is really nimble and a breeze to drive on motorways with adaptive cruise and lane assist where it nearly drives itself. Honda for me going forward as I am really impressed. That car in the blue colour looked really good but it would be red for me if my numbers came up.

[@jakedeutscher]

If Harry's Garage approves it, it must be a great driving vehicle.

[@stevenmcgeorge1983]

They're paid reviews mate.

[@jakedeutscher]

@@stevenmcgeorge1983 of course, but they are honest.

[@zirconblue2]

Looks much more grown up, but the price tag has also done a lot of growing up too. Jolly expensive It starts at $44k (£37k) in the US, and ¥5M (£31k) in Japan. Are we really paying £16,000 on import duties or are we essentially subsidising other markets ?

[@TheAslakVind]

In Denmark, that is what you pay for a normal hatchback, mate.

[@splice247]

Blame Brexit, went from being a domestic to an import. No tax break

[@andymiller8877]

​@@splice247 🥱 No, it went from a car based on lower grade cars to a stand alone product with huge development costs built in low numbers with a short shelf live.

[@ericmarentette]

​@@splice247it's also about $5500 more in the US than the previous edition.

[@zirconblue2]

@@splice247 It starts at $44k (£37k) in the US, and ¥5M (£31k) in Japan. Are we really paying ££16,000 on import duties or are we essentially subsidising other markets ?

[@benjamincolumbus]

I really love what they did with the dashboard vents

[@ssportugal]

I walked in a Honda dealership yesterday and bought one, been wanting one of these since they came out, yeah at 50k (UK) the price is steep but I think it's still worth it, specially for a Honda enthusiast like me, I've and all of the Civic Type r's including the Japanese FD2

[@benpenagonzales6014]

I'd have waited for this but only 2 rear seats and got 3 kids! And at 50k... got hyundai i20N as half price and 5 years warranty. And near 400kgs lighter. Like the late 70s, hot hatch is the answer!

[@nickipedley5]

Really like the Honda and Yaris. Breaking traction is just part of the character. You can bring in the power progressively to avoid spinning up, but sometimes the scramble for grip adds to the excitement.

[@sk-un5jq]

Very true!

[@ryanfried8393]

Thats my favorite looking civic!! That colour looks amazing and the black.. You know it's good when it impresses Harry

[@robinrai4973]

I like how this looks less silly than the last one I kinda don't understand how it's still front wheel drive at that much cost, but certainly looks fun

[@celliott16]

What a final swan song for the ICE TYPE-R, knocked it out the park, love it 😍😍😍

[@stufirewalker]

Hello Harry, brilliant video, as ever. I am quite disappointed with your council as they have still not repaired that huge pothole on your favourite bend, its been getting worse for, what seems, years

[@rjcontruction1406]

Your excitement was contagious, in interested in This type R based on your raw emotion of fun alone.

[@sweetfreedomGB]

Not my sort of a car but I will watch this anyway because it's Sunday, and it's Harry.

[@michaelk1051]

Getting a Championship White one but damn that Boost Blue looks good as well.

[@cepheus7850]

The color along with the rear end and the wing on this Civic Type-R give me some Alpine A110 vibes. Fun review to watch and the nice little slow motion shot at the end was a nice touch. 👍

[@GRfourfun]

Great review as always and I loved the comparison to the GR Yaris at the end, high praise.

[@MattyMacPhotography]

You were polite about the rude look of the previous version. It was a dropped pie of design. Thanks again mate 🙂

[@installwebercarburetorsona6159]

Harry’s smile says he’s still a boy racer at heart.

[@hughmcneillie1032]

On the previous FK8 Type R it's very easy to get 40mpg on a motorway run and average of 35mpg on normal drives. This new Civic is clearly a step up in quality and I see Audi A7 side on. As much as I like it I'll be holding off a year and seeing if price drops for a low mileage.

[@dblue7711]

Well supply is so short and demand so high I reckon these will be trading above list for the foreseeable.

[@AutopiaUK]

Price drop? Lol. They are currently £10k over list in the UK and far worse in the US.

[@WDLC1911]

@@AutopiaUK Same in the USA.

[@deanreillyMMA]

I had an integra type R in the early 00s. would love to see you get one in a do a review of it

[@airthreypark]

What a motor.....not often I burn with desire to get my hands on a new car and this is one of those times.....

[@WeirdSeagul]

they just listened to every complaint on the previous gen and refined the good bits. will be regarded as one of the best Type-Rs

[@gr1ff1ngton]

My only gripe with this is the size (& number of doors). Looks like a great car for those that need the room though.

[@David-xc4us]

I agree the GR Yaris is better but the Civic is more practical so that’s why we needed the GR Corolla in the U.K….Come on Toyota there is definitely room for the GR Corolla over here 🙏

[@colinpaton3770]

mmm pity about the GR Corolla. Harry said the GR Yaris sounded better than the latest Type R. From the outside? doubt it; inside, the Yaris has piped in sound - hopefully the Type R doesn't!

[@celliott16]

GR isn't better at all, well unless it's a damp twisty roads and better means faster, everywhere else it isn't better, not close, and the gr corolla is very ugly indeed, but we all have an opinion!

[@colinpaton3770]

@@celliott16 Do you know if the Typr R uses tech sound inside?

[@BeKindpls]

Great video as per Harry. Be great to see you think what went for a song (and sold expensively) with each of the Silverstone Auctions too

[@dannelleabajar4703]

This is the best first car/daily driver for enthusiasts.

[@rogerpayne5336]

Saw one of these a couple of days ago - black on black - and it look mean as....The price is madness but in the metal it has good presence.....As a side note ; a Fiat 20vt Coupe from the 90's made 612bhp also fwd ,and was easily drivable , 330hp is defo not the fwd limit.

[@piromantm]

So much excitement even before setting off. This car has to be special

[@marklee7545]

The price just shows what good value the GR Yaris is, plus that’s a genuine competition-derived car.

[@stevenmcgeorge1983]

No traction issues and much better 0-60 too.

[@limpet7r63]

One company very much flying the flag for traditional combustion powered, manual front drive hot hatches at the moment is Hyundai, and most of the motoring press, including Evo, have been waxing lyrical about both the i20N and i30N. Would love to see Harry’s take on these cars. Seriously doubt they are as polished as the Civic, but I wouldn’t bet on them being significantly less fun.

[@ALTRON3]

That actually doesn't look bad at all. way better looking than recent civics . more mature .

[@phils2180]

Honda could sell everyone of these that they make, twice over. The phrase "well, it's a Honda" pretty much says it all for benchmark reliability. Add "Type R" and you just know it'll be something special. I wasn't a big fan of the angular "transformer" looks of the old model but they've put that to bed nicely with this one.👍 A bigger car than the Yaris and some 140+Kg heavier which might well give the little 'Yota an edge in tight twisties but maybe not as practical as an everyday driver.

[@TTGT2000]

Good review as usual, great cars presented, many references in their categories. I do regret not seeing a review, in the same fashion as these other hot-hatches, of the Ford Focus RS Mk3 in its stock form. I think, as a proper Ford Performance product, it deserves a say on the channel and be objectively put in the balance with the other players (golf r, civic, gr yaris etc.). I do not know the reasons for not being reviewed but for sure it will complete the channel's reach and coverage of milestone chapters in automotive history. Looking forward to that sir!

[@limpet7r63]

I can't see how anyone can claim to be a hot hatch fan and ignore Hyundai at the moment. Just as people say the Civic Type R is what Porsche would build if they made a front wheel drive hatch, I'd argue the i30N is what BMW's M Division would build. Or would have when Albert Biermann was running it, anyway, given it was engineered by the same guy who gave us the E46 M3 and E39 M5

[@davidkelly2542]

Some of those corners you didn't need to drop all the way down to 2nd. Drop it to 3rd and ride the torque, less spin and faster exit speed. Had the fk2 for 5 years and was incredibly impressed with it. I can only imagine this thing is sublime.

[@TheFunkhouser]

A hybrid Type-R WILL be epic! And remember, back in the day not that long ago, Honda were doing very well in track racing! They had many wins!

[@happysporran]

Mixed emotions..a type r, but the end of an era but at a high modern price. Nostalgia that reminds me how much things have changed.

[@georgiaguardian4696]

This just broke FWD world record in Nurburgring at 1/3 a 1/5 of those super car prices and it’s a daily driver. I think this is the appeal of this hyper Civic. Well done Honda.

[@ekimandersom4478]

I highly doubt that

[@jaspal666]

I’ll be the American… the Ecoboost Mustang has the 2.3 at 310hp, 330 on factory tune based on the Focus RS. This is rent car spec. Yet, the press raves about the Rtype engine. Yes, daily I’ll get 23mpg but when driven right over 35mpg highway. Anyway, I’ll end lamenting that the next Gen Ecoboost Mustang will be 10 speed auto only for fleet sales.

[@1ongava]

Driving the absolute hot hatch in a Patek, fabulous dichotomy.

[@hpman911]

??? and your point is what?

[@1ongava]

@Jonathan White I was remarking at the contrast of a simple, elegant timepiece from one of Holy trinity versus the modern Japanese Civic in its lessened, yet boisterous appearance.

[@CerberusTenshi]

The vent behind the front wheels on the FK8 is a functional vent. But it vents the warm air from the engine room that gets dragged along by the air that goes into the DACA scoop in the bonnet. And the ones on the front are functional as well. The side ones are creating an air curtain around the wheels and the horizontal ones underneath the grill are for brake cooling. The FK8 gets way more hate for the fake vents than it deserves.

[@14KShadow]

I think the interior is the standout feature with this new Type-R Pleasure to watch you giving it the full beans 11:57

[@JMNTN]

a huge improvement over the previous gen, still not a fan of those rubberband tires though, i would refer 18s

[@mbal4052]

They are down from 20”

[@datdudeinred]

If they put the motor(s) in the back & keep the engine powering the front then it'll be a blast. Heavy but still a blast.

[@steffydog]

Lovely to see, always a fab video review, thanks Harry. Keep well.

[@andrewmiddleton6782]

They're asking ~£55k for this now!! That puts it in the same league as a high spec BMW M340i. For the same money the BMW crushes it on quality, fit, finish, kit, refinement, space and that amazing straight 6. Honda have lost the plot on this one.

[@alsayedfakhri4597]

I don't think anyone is cross shopping the 2, ones focused on driving dynamics and the other is a typical fast German saloon. The b58 is awesome though.

[@Glyn69]

Looked at a standard car new 2 months back fit finsh warranty was excellent , also out of all the delaerships i visited Honda were by far the most profesional so bought a used Honda

[@seinsmeld13]

$52,000 Canadian is the starting price for this car here in Canada. It looks better than the previous version however air don't like the rear spoiler. Nice review Harry. Cheers.

[@f181234]

$50k CAD is nothing for a new car nowadays especially in Canada people are buying $60k Trucks and Jeeps like crazy

[@mkbadlands5346]

I absolutely enjoy all your videos. This is the one I’ve been waiting for!! 👍 If only it was a few minutes longer 🙏

[@MrBlaugeist]

I drive a 2012 Honda jazz , it’s awesome

[@Android-vk8yh]

As a happy Honda FN2 type r owner, I'm really happy they have continued to make a petrol version. It'll be the last of its breed, a car made for the people by engineers who listen to its customers, Be interesting if Harry sets the suspension to comfort but the rest of it to what setting he wants in the r mode, Be interesting if he took the Yaris on track and this and see the comparison. I think Honda has the advantage though because you can take all your friends and your luggage on a European tour and take it on the track at the same time.

[@Matt_Kraczon]

If you live in a market that gets the Acura Integra, there is a version coming with the same mechanicals but with a more understated appearance (no wing, nicer interior finishes).

[@ShaiyanHossain]

integra type s so far is US only, no? i thikn given the rarirty and hardcore nature of the R, the Type S is going to be the better for most people

[@stratac30]

Like all Honda's, it's not what the car looks like outside, but what's under the bonnet that makes them so good. As a marque they have to be some of the most reliable cars ever made and the Type R epitomises what's so go about Honda's when it comes to performance.

[@lenkak8206]

Excellent car! Really like the standard Civic as well, pity you dont see them much in the EU

[@ricmech9128]

Harry keeping it real. You have to love him for that. Thanks again!

[@obfuscator]

Great review, as always. I kept trying to to imagine this Type R without a wing, that would be my first thing to take off.

[@relentlesspursuit6894]

That would be the Honda Civic 😀 - Honda have taken their dull mainstream hatchback, added a wing, some more bits stuck on and badged it the "R" 😀

[@joahsprenger]

Actually almost all the panels are different except the doors, its been done quite subtle though

[@van_der_lindeDA]

​@Relentless Pursuit keep trying bro....

[@relentlesspursuit6894]

@@van_der_lindeDA 😴😴😴