Thermalright AM5 Secure Frame Mounting Bracket Install & Review

[@mikesunboxing]

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[@chiboman1173]

I'm also using the thermalright ASF on my AM5 PC, makes the mobo socket area neat & clean, adds a little bit of cooling too.

[@AndrewB23]

It doesn't add cooling 😂

[@KieferMercer]

​@AndrewB23 certainly provides a cleaner, more solid area for mounting heavy air coolers and thermal paste like was mentioned in the video.

[@Acetheskyhook]

​@@AndrewB23adds surface area for cooling...may not be much of a difference, but it does add cooling.

[@steve_frampton]

Really enjoy the calm approach to your videos, the speed you cover subjects is perfect for someone trying to learn and gain confidence. Thanks 👍🏻

[@mikesunboxing]

Awesome, thank you! That is exactly our aim, to try and help people actually understand what they are doing and more importantly WHY

[@plenus7392]

Such fine machining and tight tolerances for such a low-price, they really did put Thermal Grizzly to shame on these brackets.

[@JustinCrediblename]

the ONLY thing that puts Grizzly to shame is the price...which is more than enough for me to choose Thermalright lol.

[@AndrewB23]

This doesn't do anything dumb dumb

[@dante123vegil]

Sabes si puedo colocar un thermal pad de grafeno sobre el Thermalright ?

[@plenus7392]

@@dante123vegil no lo sé :(

[@tonyy.8852]

Well thermal grizzly designed both the intel and amd ones, plus made in Germany. Thermalright just copied it lol

[@rickh8380]

Thanks Mike and Lady Kath for the review. Looks great sitting on the motherboard. I bought the red one for the AMD color. That was the sole purpose of me getting that was to help keep the paste from running down the sides onto the CPU. Glad it worked out. Take care. Cheers

[@mikesunboxing]

Good choice! and the shape of the CPU is crazy, surely a bigger squared of IHS would have been easier to manufacture? anyway this fixes that problem and takes the stress off, thanks for sending it

[@michaelthompson9798]

I’m actually using the black coloured contact frame on my new AM5 build and it worked better at cooling ….. a few degrees Celsius lower, but still better for my Mini ITX 💪😇👍🥰build.

[@mikesunboxing]

i might spray paint mine :-) see if it reduces temps :-)

[@peoplez129]

@@mikesunboxing I'd say that even though it isn't designed to increase cooling, it should have some effect, considering it's still mass for thermals to sink into. Also keep in mind, AIO's are more for reducing temps over time, while air coolers are better at reducing immediate temps. So for example, you might have an AIO and air cooler that are essentially rated the same, but the AIO will be cooler after an hour of use than the air cooler, while the air cooler will be cooler on quick spikes in temperatures. So I could see how an air cooler could benefit more from this than an AIO, since it's constantly moving nearby air around the socket. That combined with the already concentrated airflow of ITX, and you have way more directed airflow over components than front fans on a big case would have. A mini ITX case will replenish its localized air volume much quicker than even a big case with multiple front fans, while a big case will have air that lingers longer because there's more volume to push air through and out.

[@mickywoods]

Good product and great review- However I feel that something similar should either be supplied with the CPU or Motherboard as standard. When we first saw the shape of the new AM5 CPUs I think everybody except AMD's engineers forsaw a problem with Thermal paste spreading into the gaps - thanks for another great video.

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah it amazes me that no one in the chain of command at any point stood up and said, this looks ugly as hell

[@Veganarchy-Zetetic]

The fact that the CPU has 8 lips to be held down and the clamp only has 2 supports is already insane to me. The lever pulls upwards whilst putting extreme pressure on the CPU which forces it to move slightly (I actually had to reseat my CPU multiple times until my PC would even post) The ugliness of it, the thermal paste being able to leak inside. It really makes you wonder if these 'engineers' make the CPU's at all. Seems more like aliens give them to humans and humans then mess up the simple part of clamping it to the motherboard lol.

[@danielturunen7237]

Looks very nice! The best part is that you don't get thermal paste on the connectors with that new bracket! Looks like it was really simple to install, too! :)

[@mikesunboxing]

Yes it does! it could get really messy really fast

[@dnashj33]

One additional benefit this bracket offers is uniform pressure of the CPU die all the way around, and not just in the middle of the die. It prevents bending of the die (since it gets very hot and susceptible to small degrees of bending/warping). This was supposedly more of a problem on the Intel CPU's, but it is offered for the AMD socket also.

[@baze3SC]

Thanks! The results confirm what I suspected. The bracket makes it easier to clean the thermal compound and it may add a bit of mechanical stability when installing the cooler. But in terms of cooling performance it doesn't do anything.

[@mikesunboxing]

yes i agree 100%

[@MikeBob2023]

Thanks, Mike! 👍 Having used Thermalright's contact frame for my Intel set up (I think it's working quite well, by the way), I would TOTALLY use one of those in an AM5 build (if for no other reason than just to keep thermal paste 'overflow' in check 🤔). P/S: I'm also using Thermalright's *TFX* paste (purchased separately; it's not the same as what comes with the contact frame), and it's Good Stuff! 🤗 EDIT: Typo Management™

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks Mike, i need to do a thermal paste group test again soon, see what is the state of play right now

[@nexxusty]

TFX is better than regular Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut actually. Not Extreme though. However, TFX lasts longer than both options from Thermal Grizzly. About twice as long.

[@MikeBob2023]

@@nexxusty I was really impressed with the results I saw comparing Thermalright TFX to other popular brands. It was slightly better than Thermal Grizzly's Krynaut in most of them, and it also outperformed Noctua's NT-H1 and Arctic's MX-4 _and_ MX-5. That was enough for me. I'm glad I chose it. 👍

[@nexxusty]

@@MikeBob2023 Absolutely. Its really high quality paste. Heard NT-H2 was really good too.

[@mikesunboxing]

@@nexxusty Thanks 🙂

[@NonLegitNation2]

I just got this frame today because I'm upgrading from AM4 to AM5 today. I used Copilot and Google Gemini, and both said to tighten the screws down to 10nm which I'm definitely NOT doing. I work on bikes and know 10nm is VERY tight. I'm just going to go by feel.

[@Qelyn]

I just use the small end and tighten till it feels tight just lightly turning it

[@Jwebbplayz]

These keep that area so much cleaner,

[@mikesunboxing]

Yes they do

[@gooseuk1985]

Nice information mate, I got myself one and installed just now. My paste luckily never seeped over after I build my 7950x rig back in late November. But you could see it getting close, ha.

[@mikesunboxing]

Nice one!

[@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie]

Did see this video some times before i leave a comment. Mike's Unboxing, Reviews & How to is Worthy of a Support comment. Like & a share 🙂

[@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie]

Ps: Subtitles from the start of your video says. What is Mike from monk some mocking reviews and how to and on todays video 😅😂🤣

[@mikesunboxing]

lol love those subtitles

[@danr.1299]

Appreciate the video. I feel I could’ve figured this out no problem but anything new I do I like to check the resources available so I know exactly what I am getting myself into.

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it helped

[@REALLYRANDOMREVIEW5]

looks Industrious i like stuff like that tbh Thanks for the Info Mike and Kath as always

[@mikesunboxing]

Thanks for watching!

[@Senrab46]

That looks a precision made upgrade. I recall intel had issues with cpu deforming hence the kit and thought stay amd4. But with the crazy prices of mbs the nxt upgrade will be am5 and defo like the look of these adapters. Thanks for reviewing Mike and Kath 🐈👍

[@mikesunboxing]

Yeah I agree

[@peoplez129]

I could see it being beneficial with a large cooler just to ensure nothing flexes over time, but no so much with an AIO.

[@zeillion]

Yeah. Yeah man. I just bought a black one for a new AMD build in an 011 EVO XL. I like the theory of even squared pressure over/the spring contraption. I like my feel on secure over a spring contraption 365 days a year. Adding my EK Nucleus cooler is my next step. Thanks for this video!!! Subed! & liked.

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks and welcome to the channel

[@RandomYooser]

This video helped me install mines. Thanks!

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it helped!

[@Denbot.Gaming]

Its main purpose is to correct the uneven pressure applied by the stock clamp 🤦🏻‍♂️ Anyone struggling to get stable ram will probably benefit from one of these

[@IamMxfia]

doesnt matter on am5 there is no uneven pressure like on intel

[@Denbot.Gaming]

@@IamMxfia ok so you have a square.... you apply pressure to the middle of 2 sides..... uneven pressure right there, they warp after hard daily use, they were putting the burnout down to it early on as well. it totally removes that swing arm that creates the uneven pressure, the only pressure than is applied evenly, by the CPU coolers, cooling plate, tend to get better temps and over clocks after fitting them. AM5 can be temperamental with overclocking, both CPU and RAM.

[@491robson]

Stability! Safety! Perfect!

[@mikesunboxing]

Yes indeed!

[@AndrewB23]

It doesn't add any of that

[@Nephilim2001]

Nice and simple guide there. Thanks for that. Now I've ordered mine too.

[@mikesunboxing]

No problem 👍

[@KenjiBiH]

ive heard that the only reason they were made for am5 was for it to be easier to apply thermal paste, i do know that noctua sells some thermal sealing panel (Noctua NA-STPG1 Thermal Paste Sealing) where you dont need to remove the cpu bracket but only put the panel on the cpu

[@CALISKAN01]

will noctua plactic damage on termal stress?

[@KenjiBiH]

@@CALISKAN01 that i dont know as i have not tested them sorry

[@starsiegeplayer]

Even if this doesn't have the temperature impact that the equivalent LGA1700 plate has, it seems like a much better way of retaining the CPU on the motherboard.

[@mikesunboxing]

yes i think we can all agree with that

[@willsutton54]

Some great easy to do videos from you mate...good job

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad you like them!

[@UltraGameWorld]

Looks good to secure your AM5 CPU, thanks for the video Mike!

[@mikesunboxing]

You bet and have a great weekend, and get the camera out and get creating

[@mackyrazor1017]

its nice that amd change their socket design from previous am4 which you are struggling especialy you suddenly notice that your cpu stuck on cooler during pull out which heartstoping you might thought of pins bend that was hassle..now am5 is much better socket and can change frame for better placement of cpu at least wont pull out during change of cooler/thermal reapplication..

[@mikesunboxing]

i preferred AM4, larger surface area to cool and now motherboards are crazy expensive and really easy to destroy by slightly bending pins

[@PaulBakewell]

Great video thanks Mike 😊

[@jookajook4213]

Thx for the video 😊

[@RiAv33]

What happens if I use a Thermal Grizzly KryoSheet Wärmeleitpad, will I have problems with an electrical short? Since this product is conductive, the opposite of thermal paste. THANK YOU!

[@mikesunboxing]

no idea sorry,not used it myself and not really researched it

[@ololeader]

Great video, Mike. I’m planning a new build and I’m leaning towards AM5, heck, I think I’ve decided by now to go for it but don’t want to admit it to myself 😂. This little gadget will definitely come handy and should be a quality of life improvement in the long run. I’m just hesitating between 7600x and 7700. A 100 quid difference but 7700 has only 65W TDP comparing to 105W on 7600x. What’s your take and any advice? Thanks

[@mikesunboxing]

look for amazon returns and get the 7700x and set it to whatever you are comfortable with, my 7700x was only £40 more than the retail 7600x so was a obvious choice at the time. Amazon warehouse is awesome for these deals

[@tylersays-]

I'm an Intel fanboy and I went AMD today with a 7900X. I did it because my cousin built a 1700x rig like 5 years ago, and just swapped it for a 5800x3d on the same mobo and setup.

[@jdcolt1978]

Same here and you posted this few months ago during all the am5 issues

[@rickss69]

Run the larger cpu and simply undervolt it.

[@daniladergachev]

this chart scale tho at 8:52, 0.2% improvement looks like it's 3x better

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah that is the default scale from powerpoint

[@AndrewB23]

It literally adds nothing bud

[@adamn5803]

Right in the algorithms!

[@mikesunboxing]

thanks Adam

[@muhammadzeeshan2826]

Great Video!! There are also many AM5 guards available in the market which are really easy to use. For example, Deepcool AM5 guard. Some people reviewed it and saying that it can reduce temp by 2-3 degrees. Deepcool one is made up of pure copper. Should I get that one or the thermaltake one? What is your take

[@mikesunboxing]

i think they all serve a purpose, but i have slightly switched gears and gone with the silicon paste guards, and you get 2 or more for the same price as the frame so it is pretty handy

[@CrusaderKnight]

I got the Noctua NA-STPG1, it is easier to install but it is made out of plastic.

[@mikesunboxing]

cool i'll check that out

[@GanymedeXD]

Cannot really be compared to that mount as it solely prevents thermal paste overspill!

[@tylersays-]

So I have to seat the chip witb the factory mechanism and then replace the mechanism? ..im nervous about seating this thing tonight 😢

[@mikesunboxing]

take it slow and steady and you will be fine

[@MrHrafiee]

review for: Deepcool AM5 Thermal Paste Guard

[@mikesunboxing]

will do

[@Ranger.TomGunna]

Can I use this bracket if my cooler for my 7700x is my Noctua NH-U12S?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes it fits on my 7700x

[@1stRanger]

Margin of error is not a win, it's a margin of error aka no difference at all. Certainly looks cool though and for its price totally worth it even if there's 0 difference.

[@406mill]

Didn't know thisa was a thing! Nice vid! :) Ok so this may defeat the purpose of keeping the CPU edges clean but i wonder if there was paste between the feet on the IHS and the frame itself would it pull some extra heat away from the IHS. 🤔

[@mikesunboxing]

That's a good idea!

[@nokelo4207]

Did I should take out MB before instal it? Bcs of the back plate in MB?

[@mikesunboxing]

no need

[@Elvyne]

If planning to use PTM7950 pads, is there any use for those frames?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes the pads won't stop the CPU deformation over time

[@MrEveion]

The part I like is that you don’t have to use that dam lever. I hate that thing

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah that is a torture device

[@reedsyd]

Do you have a link to the case you had the motherboard in for this video?

[@mikesunboxing]

think its this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/aam3qqShbM2Vea8

[@mikesunboxing]

sorry it is the b650 tomahawk

[@rakeshpk9648]

Looks pretty darn, thanks Mike for this video ! ;-)

[@mikesunboxing]

You bet thanks for watching

[@JPMIIIIIIIII]

And if you fill all contacts with thermal paste, including the bottom part that has contact with the motherboard?

[@mikesunboxing]

no don't do that

[@PallBEARer730]

Can I use this with a pre applied thermal paste on a 360 cooler

[@mikesunboxing]

yes you can

[@klimper]

Would you test this type of processor and frame with liquid metal?

[@mikesunboxing]

i won't be using liquid metal until they figure out a way to stop it running or being conductive

[@tky546]

Can this frame be used for a direct-die cooling setup?

[@mikesunboxing]

i have no idea sorry, i am pretty sure that direct die cooling kits come with their own brackets anyway as the Z heights are different

[@MustafaGT]

Will any brand AIO cooler still be compatible with this frame?

[@mikesunboxing]

i believe so

[@ojustaboo]

Can I still use their Peerless Assassin 120 SE cooler with this please?

[@mikesunboxing]

Yes you can

[@cdog25z]

Is there any risk with removing the little cpu latch? I’m worried the CPU might come up if I pulled the cpu cooler off to add more thermal paste or something.

[@mikesunboxing]

no that is fine

[@cdog25z]

@@mikesunboxing sweet thank you Mike! Appreciate the video

[@alain_marlowe]

So for those who installed this bracket frame. What's your opinion now? Cause i want to know your opinion as well since im planning to put it on my build. Thanks

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah me too

[@sedraniM]

Is the Thermal Paste from this bracket any good?

[@mikesunboxing]

seems okay, got another paste group test coming with some interesting results

[@jb90467]

how dangerous is thermal paste overflow cuz, im doing my first am5 build tomorrow as soon as my last few parts arrive and... i did not know about this issue until tonight i may order one of these guard protector things and hold off on building if it's that important

[@mikesunboxing]

not dangerous but if it gets into the socket then the pins won't connect

[@GanymedeXD]

Its been a year … but there is a high risk of voiding mobo warranty using them!

[@AndrewB23]

The perfect product for people that don't actually know what they're doing, there are literally zero reasons to use this. Intel needed it because it's not flat.

[@mikesunboxing]

It makes the process cleaner, that is worth it I think, but only if you swap coolers and paste a bit

[@jarablue]

@@mikesunboxing But it's not NEEDED. The only reason I bought thermaltakes for intel was the temp issue. Now that I am on AMD. There is 0 use for it. The lever works fine. I am not sure how the process is cleaner when the lever is already attached and easily put together. You would have to unscrew the current lever from the motherboard and make sure you are correctly tightening this. That process is not cleaner. It's added effort that can render your memory useless.

[@fourthburrito4579]

@@jarabluecleaner as in keeping the thermal paste where it’s supposed to go. He mentions it several times in the video.

[@DavidAlsh]

I'm surprised motherboard manufacturers even bother with the latch quick release systems. It's not like I remove my CPU every month to blow on the pins or something - why do I need a quick release? 😆

[@mikesunboxing]

good point actually

[@svartization8437]

@@mikesunboxing It acts as a torque safe mounting making sure it has the correct pressure. Tight enough, but not too tight. You could of course still overtighten a cooler on it, but at least that is your problem, and not the MB/CPU-manufacturar.

[@AndrewB23]

​@@mikesunboxingmy guy you're trying to teach people about PCs but don't know the CPU latch is for the correct pressure please stop spreading information on a subject you don't understand we already have enough misinformation in this world

[@GanymedeXD]

@@AndrewB23Then best stop using KZbin! You watch stuff created by living room video creators and criticise that false information are spread?

[@DanielHernandez-gw7ix]

Does it works on am5 ryzen 9000 ? Like 9900x or 9950x ?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes it will

[@Hunter1900]

What are the risks of tightening the frame too much or not enough?

[@mikesunboxing]

worst case the pins bend too much or too little so the pc won't boot

[@Hunter1900]

@@mikesunboxing does bending too much not damage anything?

[@GanymedeXD]

@@Hunter1900of course you can cause damage tightening it to much … hence using them can void motherboard warranty!

[@NFawc]

Not sure the test is entirely correct as the entire purpose of the bracket is it doesn't warp/bend the top surface of the CPU. So applying it after the standard fitting has been used on the CPU surely risks the 'damage' already being done. So it would be interesting to see a virgin chip used with each solution...

[@WTFuSTPD]

Is it possible to use this bracket on AM4 aswell? Looking to install a 5800x3D into my Crosshair VII X470 AM4 board.

[@mikesunboxing]

no it isn't sorry the CPU is a very different size

[@WTFuSTPD]

@@mikesunboxing Thank you very much for your quick answer! You saved me from wasting money, and I'm grateful for that, just like your great video above.

[@mikesunboxing]

@@WTFuSTPD Happy to help 🙂

[@Soaring_..]

Does this thing reduce the temperature by 15 degrees, as some companies claim

[@mikesunboxing]

it can do on boards or chips that are already deformed, for brand new items there is likely to be no difference

[@Paolo0902]

Use the instructions from Thermal Grizzly frame for mounting

[@mikesunboxing]

i would if it was a thermal grizzly frame, but it isn't, they are different designs and different materials

[@Paolo0902]

@@mikesunboxing As far as I know both are made from anodised aluminium alloy. The installation process is more clearly written for Thermal Grizzly frame, so it can be implemented to this AM5 frame install.

[@D_8KEN]

So it’s an anti muck bracket! Bit of a let down. But good to know. Thanks for the video mike!

[@mikesunboxing]

yes and it "might" prevent socket or IHS warping in the future, but mostly it's a mud guard :)

[@XxAtomic646xX]

installed mine but not sure how tight it needs to be.

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah that is the problem with these, i suggest tighten it until it hits the hard stop and don't apply any extra pressure after. Just so it is tight even to not come loose

[@XxAtomic646xX]

@@mikesunboxing So I ended up tightening till stop, then turning an extra 30degree on each corner. running great, 39c idle, 65c gaming with pbo -20 and 6000 cl30. no errors or anything so far.

[@calvinlooi4500]

Can this be used with AM4?

[@mikesunboxing]

no sorry

[@GanymedeXD]

It clearly says am5 … just look at the different designs … how should that work?

[@PhillipLemmon]

It was made to not get thermal paste in the chip. That's ALL it was made for. I'd get one but I plan on building and staying with AM4. It's still just too expensive for no real performance lift. Price to performance wise anyway. (see what I did there?)

[@0Metatron]

Until you NEED to upgrade in the future. May as well get it out the way at some point. And especially now that DDR5 is so much cheaper and finally stable at higher frequencies with the AGESA updates

[@GanymedeXD]

Thats actually false information that you spread… its mainly for optimised pressure distribution … the optional cpu guard is for thermal paste protection!

[@Qelyn]

Why didn’t mine just pop on like that 😭 it wouldn’t go on for shit managed to put it on after the 10th try quite forceful

[@mikesunboxing]

there is a location tag in the top corner, make sure it is the right way up

[@Qelyn]

@@mikesunboxing i did it just wouldn’t go on super smoothly like yours did but i forced it down quite a bit and its booted and everything is working but the bracket and the cpu are now probably one forever 😂

[@colinhilton6067]

Good review Mike.l am intel through and through,but l have to be honest and say l don’t like either the black or the red.l suppose eventually l will have to use the black one if my mobos pack 😅up,but l’m not looking forward to it 👏⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@mikesunboxing]

it is one of those devices that is to make life easier or prevent damage and hard to make it look nice. a bit too industrial really

[@CyberClu]

I feel like mobo manufacturers are going to eventually sell us motherboards without the motherboard, and we have to IKEA DIY our own parts, or use a 3D printer. It kinda feels like hardware Micro-transactions.

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah i know what you mean

[@UkzEnglishBullTerrierz]

I tried this didn't work via i7 13700k My cpu raised a little

[@mikesunboxing]

might need a little fine tuning with the cooler mounting of refit the bracket

[@UkzEnglishBullTerrierz]

@mikesunboxing do I need to use washers for installation coz my cpu is raised a little compared to the bracket

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels@@UkzEnglishBullTerrierz

[@ericpalmero5865]

No one's talking about how I can finally avoid that awful feeling of torturing my CPU with that tension bar

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah that is true

[@Qelyn]

I tortured it with the bracket pretty sure my cpu will never leave the bracket again it wouldn’t go on 💀

[@ChristopherGeorgiou-x6x]

Those graphs are slightly misleading.

[@mikesunboxing]

With the tiny differences on cpu coolers and benchmarks they have to be enlarged to be able to detect them

[@a122c]

aperto ate quanto ?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes, it isn't clear how much to tighten, i choose to do it lightly now

[@1king1god]

so now you can actually use liquid metal compound.

[@mikesunboxing]

not really a good idea in a vertical installation as it drips easily

[@subramaniamchandrasekar1397]

Many of the PC builders do not know the basics of how and why a thermal paste must be applied. The paste must be applied throughout the metal contact surface. If in doubt, ask a electronic repair man. Regards.

[@ItsThatDane]

You never cleaned the thermal paste off the edges before you out the bracket on lol. You said "we will clean that off once we get the cpu out" then proceeded to not take it out lol

[@mikesunboxing]

i am a simple man, and when i press record sometimes my mind wanders

[@terolaitanen]

Lol that score bar. 42 points difference, which is in the margin of variation between tests and the blue bar is huge compared to red. I would say this is false marketing and done liberately. These frames have no affect on am5 thermals, you have to delid the thing to improve thermals. Visually this frame looks nice though.

[@mikesunboxing]

i blame microsoft powerpoint personally

[@JahonCross]

They are a waste of money people 😂

[@mikesunboxing]

Thanks for your comment