Why Men Are Confused About Women Today

[@shookone568]

Damn man, I’m gonna miss KS so much.

[@Darealist5629]

💯

[@gerryanderson6378]

Amen.

[@willh7352]

...Absolutely...

[@azraelfirstofhisname8695]

Same here

[@bxeggy]

The interaction with the waiter was going to be awkward. Guys will either take it two ways, "is she being sarcastic? like am I ignoring the table?" or "Is she coming on to me?", plus they're tipped workers, walking on egg shells to make you happy and not get fired for saying or doing the wrong thing.

[@4397evan]

Yea, and even if she is serious wtf are you supposed to say to her, especially with other people there? Her comment puts her in control of the situation. If you like someone, you should approach them on an even playing field where both parties feel comfortable to leave or engage more in the situation.

[@hfj957]

nah if an attractive women says that to you a confident man would definitely continue the conversation. Although examples you gave is from the perspective of an insecure man that doesn't think he deserves that attention, thats why it would be awkaward

[@4397evan]

@@hfj957 But the point I’m trying to make is that she has put herself in the powerful position with that comment in that situation. If she wants a different guy than the confident extraverts that usually hit on women (which is what she said) then she has to give up the power play moves, and put herself in an uncomfortable spot. Women don’t like to do this, so they “approach” in a comfortable way like having all their friends around.

[@caiotorres6156]

thought the same thing... i would've thought i got it wrong, if it was me in the situation

[@AlVaRoLA92]

Successful interactions from cold approaching only works when the other person falls into the same energy. A lot of times they are stuck in their own space and can’t reciprocate. Like tennis. Hit that ball across the court but it can only be returned if the person has the will, skill, and luck to successfully hit the ball back. Back and forth.

[@Introvertedalpha]

good advice

[@theblackschwab3561]

Well said

[@rejectionisprotection4448]

Not stuck in their own space; they're just in a different one and it's not a vibrational match.

[@Introvertedalpha]

Biggest takeaway: approaching people is a skill. Great tip.

[@notandyvee]

Nah. Idk what happened. Had high hopes for the roommates. But these guys are simps. If you have a conversation with boody and agree with everything she says, we got a problem. That boy sitting next to her has no presence. Wtf does any man have to learn from this conversation? I'm out.

[@iipubstarii]

I mean it was mainly a woman talking.Not the same quality as the roommates other conversations but it did give some insight into women’s minds. For any man looking to gain insight on women learn from pimps or KZbin search Andrew Tate

[@_GOING_DARK_]

There is so much toxicity in this and they don’t even realize it. First of all having a small child who is an information sponge, and yes does start to decipher langue during this stage. these conversations are going to mess up her view on sexuality and mentally torcher her when she goes through puberty. Second, just because women have sexual attraction the same as men doesn’t mean they should be dogs like men are. This notion that “men are dogs so women can be too” is so counter progressive. we should be trying to teach morality and healthy ways to go about life. People should be more disappointed about their sexuality. We all like sex, and we probably all like the taste of McDonald’s as well. Just because it’s pleasurable doesn’t mean that it’s healthy to indulge or partake in that kind of behavior. It’s actually very mentally and emotionally scaring to be having close intimate relationships with so many masses of people.

[@krissysherrell6625]

For both men and women.

[@NotThatDeep]

This comment right here 👏🏾

[@tangoalpha94]

@@krissysherrell6625 it’s not for both. Y’all gotta accept that we’re different.

[@rushitif]

I love this. Well said

[@joniheredia1413]

Just because it's pleasurable also doesn't mean it's unhealthy or toxic.

[@EliteBlackSash]

What I notice mostly though about the elders when they speak about meeting and relationships, is that you got more of a clean slate when you met people back then. Now you are a lot less likely to get that clean slate - you are overcoming more unknown odds now Down south, where I’m from, it’s still a lot closer to “back in the day” as far as how open and happy about being sociable people are. You might still get invited to a strangers cookout, and have them introduce you to a cool woman to make you feel good. But, Cali, NYC? It’s a different planet, people’s guard is up Up UP UPPPPP lol Secondly, people were not so judgmental about what is, “corny” when it comes to putting yourself out there to express yourself with / to someone else. People stay in their shell because they feel like they’re gonna be called “corny” if they express to this woman / guy and it’s not reciprocated the same Third…. Media. Popular Dances back then were more often partner dances And Popular Songs back then were more often (positively) about love and relationships. A lot of media now is about straight up disrespect between Men and Women. People’s worldviews are skewed more negatively about other people and there is more pressure, distrust and judgment individual to individual because of it

[@aquasqua]

Well said!

[@rp-2f]

this conversation is ridiculous. If you look a certain way you're going to get a positive response from women. Also this is supposed to be a channel for men but this is a very feminine conversation. I don't know who this woman is but she is absolutely dominating this discussion with womanise and the two men are just sitting there agreeing with everything

[@juanrich1976]

Agreed. And that is because both males have less experience than she does and from her book she wrote; she doesn't have much either.

[@thespadestable]

This woman is a "sex expert" who does more babble talk than anything else. What makes her bullsh*t even worse, she's admitted that her and her husband are in a mutually agreed upon open marriage. So, the dumb chick got married, and had a child, all for the sake to leave the window open for him and her to share one of tools designed to fuel their desire to remain connected and tackle the ups and downs of a constructive relationship.

[@Novacaine_m]

Maybe because she is speaking sense and a man knows when to listen. It's really not that deep

[@rp-2f]

@@Novacaine_m no she is speaking nonsense and a man is being polite

[@darkmoon2744]

I think women who think initiative means copying men strategy like flirting. When in reality. The control she should have is in her domain. The domain called "opportunity for control". Having a normal conversation is the simplest action that gives that.

[@MylesKillis]

The reason she’s pick one guy is not social pressure. It’s because she can get pregnant so she’s only gonna want the best one to risk getting her pregnant if she has the choice. That’s why men say all of them cause we want to spread our seed far and wide.

[@nathancasey7712]

I didn't think the final question was initially about attractive people, just out of the general population.

[@FreeFlow__]

Meditation. It really is the key to clear complicated things in life.

[@vianhoho19]

I haven't really listen to Shannon much, but ever since the conversation she had with the late KS (RIP, sir) where she said that "none of this conversation made me feel good or inspired" I just stopped listening altogether. She was no better than any of the women that came on KS's show; the only difference is that she's good with the word salad 🥗

[@Mr._Moderate]

Oh wow 😮 shesaid that during her convo with Kevin or afterwards?

[@vianhoho19]

@@Mr._Moderate it's on Kevin's channel titled "Let's talk about it" and it was uploaded IIRC a month or two ago Side note. Pay attention to the comment section in that video in particular

[@Mr._Moderate]

@@vianhoho19 yikes... okay thanks

[@CoachatCole]

First, women have been programmed not to notice a guy. They seldom see the average, good dudes out in public or at work. It takes a lot of repetitive occurrences for them to even notice a decent guy. When they do their game is to put themselves in orbit around them and smile a lot. That’s about the extent of their game.

[@Introvertedalpha]

appreciated hearing these insights

[@rejectionisprotection4448]

That's fair enough. It's too masculine for a woman to outwardly approach a guy in any case. Putting herself in the vicinity, appropriate body language, eye contact etc to encourage a guy to approach her is fine. If he doesn't, then she'll know he's not interested. Men's game and women's game are different.

[@iamjuan6762]

Joining a church is not the best idea now that all these pastors be getting exposed. I would say join a group where you are free to talk about anything.

[@DJTREMADEIT]

She’s the definition of “Sounds good on paper” lmao!

[@wzg8804]

I agree. And the only reason you should go to church anyway is to grow spiritually via your belief system, not to get some play or to find a relationship in general

[@DeepVoiceBryan]

Yes and no. It’s only a very small percentage of pastors getting exposed or actually doing things that aren’t good. Plus the ones who have been exposed are already on a huge platform and we’ll known so it makes their mistake seem bigger than some smaller, not so well known pastor.

[@kiaadams104]

@@wzg8804 church is for spirituality. No romance. I swear people looking for love in all the wrong places

[@healingwithdanae1294]

Biggest takeaways: - Approaching people should be like a dance of subtle cues, not a hunt/kill. - Rejection happens and it’s okay, but you can avoid a huge rejection by doing the dance mentioned above. - We may be so concerned with breaking social norms and traditions, that we are ignoring what naturally just works. - Traditions contain wisdom that should be modified for modern life, not cast aside. - Just because a woman may be physically aroused, does not mean that she would want more than one man lol. Regardless of social pressure. - It was unfortunate that hubby finally had something to say but jumped in on the attraction percentage question and gave an inaccurate response 😩 - I’m confused about the relationship dynamics of the couple being interviewed…lol

[@MsDragonbal776]

On that last part, he her loves more than she loves him, so she basically used him as a doormat and disguises her narcissistic tendencies under her new age bullshit. Their relationship may very well even be open too, at her request of course. Furthermore, she discounts that many of the social conventions that we have in place are there for a reason. For example, sure society conditions women not to engage in the same behavior as men, and that's because promiscuity on the part of women more often than leads to pregnancy, illegitimate ones at that.

[@Doomed667]

Yo shoutout to her been following her for a while she makes a lot sense tbh

[@iamgoddessoflove]

Don't lose yourself to someone that doesn't respect you; instead, let go of that relationship to allow doors to open from someone that deserves you. 💙KZbinr That Helps People Overcome Toxic Relationships

[@semitruckliving6524]

Yeah, because letting go for ya’ll is sooo tough

[@1StepForwardToday]

Women are typically the ones who decide if & when sex happens (between men & women). Thus, culturally, women are the gate-keepers for sex. If the women within our culture set a personal standard to only agree to sex with a man who first committed to a monogomous relationship with her... it would single handedly eliminate a significant amount of detrimental cultural issues, and yield substantial benefits. By women upholding this one principle, it would cause a mass reduction of: √Divorce Rates √Infidelity √Single Parent Households √Crime Rates (Children from single-parent families are more prone than children from two-parent families to use drugs, be gang members, be expelled from school, be committed to reform institutions, and become juvenile murderers, etc). √Welfare Payouts √Housing Costs √Abortion Rates √Suicide Rates etc. The list of benefits goes on and on from just this one principle.

[@YourSpongeBoy]

Completely disagree. While it makes some sense, you’re using a woman’s “box” to dictate the terms of a relationship as if that’s the driving force and it’s not. Vagina doesn’t make the world go round, money and resources do. Who has more of the financial advantage in the world? It’s men hands down, so if you control that aspect, a woman can’t control the narrative of a relationship and “force” a man to be monogamous just because she controls who has access to her insides. The gatekeepers of resources will always come out on top and the terms will be dictated by them.

[@sub-harmonik]

w/ the interaction w/ the waiter: it sounds like he didn't know you were interested bc women initiate things so rarely. Plus he probably didn't know how to react bc of that lol.

[@tjbroussard3524]

18:00 My only question is the impact on commitment. People already have commitment issues (on average) and easy access of too many options has to have a impact like any decision making process. I get having plenty of options but to our tendency to want easy access, comfort, and options...it makes it hard to build when at the first sign of difficulty. You almost instinctively want to question is there better out there or I can jump ship instead of work on it and if I work on it..it'll be a dabble not a real attempt.

[@MbusoMhlongo]

Women like ShanBoody are a bad influence for modern women. Shout-out from Newcastle South Africa 🇿🇦 PEPE SOUPO!!!! 🍜

[@AfterTheGame]

Judge the past vs the present by the fruit it bears. At present in the black community child out of weblock births is 80%. In the past out of wedlock births was 10%. So is having more options at present benefiting us or leading to our demise?

[@MylesKillis]

No. The government handouts are what are allowing women to not be terrified of being single mothers.

[@AfterTheGame]

@@MylesKillis What does "No" mean? The question was, so is having more options at present benefiting us or leading to our demise?

[@MylesKillis]

@@AfterTheGame it’s irrelevant to your point. Options isn’t the reason for 80% of births being out of wedlock. The government subsidizing single mothers is. So the answer is no.

[@AfterTheGame]

@@MylesKillis I agree, along with no fault divorce and feminism. It's just when you said NO I did not know what you were referring to.

[@kdawg2472]

@@MylesKillis that and the culture of today. Women wanna move like men with the privileges and protection of women.

[@semitruckliving6524]

My gawd it’s so obvious to me that hafeez has been out of the game for a long time. 😔

[@MsDragonbal776]

Coupled with the fact that his newfound financial success masks the realities of his deficiencies

[@victormelendez1074]

Amazing how people with no real training or credentials provide so much "professional" opinion....

[@devankurmitra4118]

the roommates need to start teaching "game" and finance stuff now

[@chrisjohnson926]

I found what Shan mentioned at 14:30 is key. I think that the cultural aspect of like-minded is also important. When you have those who grew up in the same community you are more likely to have a similar value system, your comfort foods may be the same. One thing I'd like to clarify is that (in general) abused people usually become abusers. Beating the hell out of your kids is not the status quo like it used to be so for somebody like me who came from a loving home, I don't have that same connection to abuse. I remember dating a girl who was into BDSM. She wanted me to slap her during sex and that was difficult for me. I had to get a couple shots before sex to give her what she wanted from me. All that to say, I think we always elude to the men who grew up in that society. I also think it's important to really pay attention to a potential mates past, not to judge them but if you understand how the psychology works you can understand them better.

[@raiz91]

Men are not confused about women, simply some of them made wrong decisions. There are wonderful women like Candace Owens, NY Nadia, Patricia Dickson, Tate M and so on. We just need to select the best ones.

[@unapologetic6159]

That’s 4 women you mentioned good luck fighting for those few and far in between women who are more then likely all in relationships or married already

[@ashwin.unlead]

@@unapologetic6159 lol who said to fight for them , there are other good women too lmao .

[@unapologetic6159]

@@ashwin.unlead Lol my point was they are very limited in supply yet high in demand so good luck locking one who has probably 100s of options down

[@raiz91]

@@unapologetic6159 that’s a pretty good point, considering that the men who are married or engaged to these ladies are so lucky.

[@ashwin.unlead]

@@unapologetic6159 yyup

[@EricThePioneer]

You can't ever go back - Shan...True but you can try to shape the future to resemble the principles and morals of the past. We're not trying to go back but we are trying to get some of the same results that were better in the past. Also her point about just moving to a small town is interesting because what is to stop the girls from those small towns from getting on social media and still being "flewed out" to the guys in NY, LA or MIA if those girls look good? That is what Chris was saying and she didn't address it really. The problem nowadays is the paradox of choice and Jordan Peterson talks about it in one of his interviews using shopping for shampoo or something as an example lol

[@szn1580]

Facts

[@MsDragonbal776]

She ignores anything that points out the fallacies in her arguments. She did the same thing with Kevin samuels. She's quite the narcissist

[@szn1580]

Facts

[@ROBERTDAVis2271]

Fantastic video 👍🏿

[@stvillasquad]

I never watched the bachelorette so the fantasy suite is new to me. I would never get with a girl knowing she smashed 2 guys back to back just to wife it🤣

[@MrAnderson610]

Moving blindly will have you falling down a flight of stairs!

[@scaggly9239]

There are images on Clubhouse. Just like all social media platforms.

[@unfazed_fc]

Her man is ok with his woman getting railed by other men. I wouldn’t take her advice

[@ITISKONY]

Marriage has never been about love but resources for women, ask yourself if you've ever heard any woman in divorce court asking for her love back, they all ask for half of your resources. Learn or perish!

[@MsDragonbal776]

There was ALWAYS a component of love when it came to marriage. Don't let these toxic, undisciplined women tell you otherwise

[@ITISKONY]

@@MsDragonbal776 The kind of love you're talking about comes later, and quickly vanishes. True Love don't die like it's done nowadays. So, most of them is based on what you offer. Once "love" is conditioned, then it is no more love.

[@dacluxjudah]

Men are not confused about women,men are confused about men.

[@nicksam305]

I'm also a 5'3" Mexican, now give me some chon chon!

[@TJMoney-m9f]

Why do they talk to these two so much? They are just apologists for what they “feel like”. She loves to site studies but any fact checking of the stats she sites will show extreme cherry picking. She thinks men romanticize the past? Does she demonize the past? I know my ninety year old grandparents who have been married since their high school graduation. I know my parents who have been married since their college graduation. Her characterization of their marriage or of their similar friends has zero basis or reality. Their talk of female sexuality and “societal” repression ignores the fact that the biggest repression of female sexuality in the past came from nature. The natural fact that women had to worry about pregnancy and great susceptibility to STIs. Society has removed some of the natural consequences of “non repressed” female sexuality but nature is something you can never truly escape.

[@aiwithrudiyt]

He will leave her soon this is so predictable

[@JmtheMe]

12:00 Justin Bieber, with long hair!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@slimchaed]

This chick is so goofy lol

[@theworstentreprenuer]

Bro where you get that flower shirt? lol I want it

[@solomonpennix6752]

Idgaf yes I want you NOW. And if she really likes you it doesn’t matter what she’s doing she will reciprocate energy if she’s attracted to you.

[@sean4060]

Why? Because Instagram messed with their brains. 40 years ago, if a man was a good earner and worked hard, was good with his wife and kids, his wife would be happy NOW, a woman wants the husband to earn 200k a year ALL WHILE taking care of the kids , being masculine , in shape, affectionate, complimenting her all day. A guy has to have an exact equal amount of each feature I just mentioned to do well. How many men do you know have all of those traits ?

[@mikhailabdurrachman2443]

Girl you need to realize that when ever you like a guy there a OTHER girls that ALSO liked him. If you are not PROACTIVE then get upset when he choose some one else instead of you 🔥

[@justicecoemilton8831]

Feminine energy doesn't tend to chase after things. Not sure men should be that flattered when women "pounce" to get him. Yeah she might be pretty but these men whining about wanting a feminine woman also ironically want to be aggressively pursued. Make it make sense. Well don't whine later when this same woman is out "manning" and out asserting u. Some women are downright masculine in their desires for a guy but the fellas are so thirsty to be chased (ironically it's feminine energy to want* to be chased btw) that they don't realize until later that thats not the energy he wants. They want to be flattered by being chased...but then in the same breathe they want the most dainty of women. Dainty women don't chase so get over your egos, roll up your sleeves, and get a clue.

[@mikhailabdurrachman2443]

@Justice Kevin samuels said that girls who don't have a man are the "lazy daters", meaning they don't have a man because they don't wanna INITIATE affection

[@combatsportlover6919]

@@justicecoemilton8831 A women doesn't have to chase to make the first move.

[@vianhoho19]

Women don't like the fact that they have to compete with other women to get a top tier man. That's what it is IMO

[@rejectionisprotection4448]

@@combatsportlover6919 Of course not and I've said so in other comments. But the OP put PROACTIVE in caps so he's talking about women using a more masculine m.o.

[@nathancasey7712]

Men do have a body part for pleasure it's just cut off at birth sometimes

[@mikelitorous5570]

I don’t know why I think this but I find it very hard to meet women. 1 because I hate social media and putting pictures of myself out there because I don’t understand what women would find more attractive in a picture. 2 I think society has made people approaching people as creepy and it can come across that way. 3 I live in a town where everyone knows everyone and I get anxious that’s it’s going to come back to my friends and I’ll feel super uncomfortable. 4 Approaching in public is even worse because that’s seen as creepy nowadays.

[@semitruckliving6524]

Look at them and talk to them like little girls man. They act talk play cry like they’re little and that’s when they’re most happy. You gotta be like their dad was to them because that was their first love.

[@ericknowles8929]

Do not take advice from this woman

[@razzdiamond6447]

Why not?

[@MsDragonbal776]

@@razzdiamond6447 she genuinely doesn't know what she's talking about and thinks that just because she's articulate, that that makes a difference.her boyfriend also seems to be more in love with her than she is with him and henceforth tolerates a lot of disrespect from her

[@vanthachhim]

Agree

[@razzdiamond6447]

@@MsDragonbal776 okay... What makes you think she doesn't know what she's talking about?

[@mattk8810]

@@razzdiamond6447 ever see what Jada Pinket did to Will Smith? Her advice is awful and self beneficial. Be ready to work for your woman and being second to her. She isnt even in love with her guy. She likes him because he is “pretty”. She talks but says nothing.

[@ajoldaker]

Did anyone else think that was Justin Bieber wearing a wig?

[@aprildavis4066]

You approach or flirt with a man & he assumes you’re thirsty. He never takes you out on dates or calls & drags you because you’re thirsty. Or.. he entertains you but never commits. You aren’t what he really wanted.

[@VaughnMcGregor]

No such thing as a thirsty woman. That's the standard burning desire that men need to acquire from women when dating.

[@aprildavis4066]

@@VaughnMcGregor my point is that women aren’t treated well when they approach

[@matgamer5916]

Yeah but then don’t do to much

[@VaughnMcGregor]

@@aprildavis4066 It's all about mutual energy. For example, I was minding my business looking at TV's at an electronics store last night and based off my energy and the way I carried myself, the 2 ladies that worked there naturally gravitated towards me and asked me to hangout with them for drinks after they got off work. We hung out for hours as if we knew eachother and they said they loved my sincere energy.

[@tangoalpha94]

@@aprildavis4066 that’s false. Men don’t nuclear reject women

[@jayantamukharjee4304]

Can you bring Darius M?He is a great and since 2017. Love from India.

[@johnnyoldenjr.]

What is the 2nd girl talking about shes beautiful but shes living in a fantasy land

[@handled99]

Didn't Shan Body get BODIED by Kevin Samuels?

[@rsKayiira]

Cold approaching is cap. Dont fall for the trap

[@bmitzagrrmursal6233]

🧢.....the ninja was caught lying and simping himself with an IG model

[@DJTREMADEIT]

Yea… who?

[@joeswanson733]

i find it laughable when she says go to those areas where traditional cultural norms are still being observed and practiced... i don't know if she's been living under a rock but it's becoming far and few in beween in teh sates..... let's jus put it this way. if the states really had that level of diversity between traditional areas and non traditional areas... you wouldn't see more and more american men going overseas to look for wives. riddle me this. if your mother country is so awesome why would the men need to leave the country to look for wives elsewhere... O_O *does not compute, brain explodes*

[@iipubstarii]

Are Jared and Shan in an open relationship ?

[@nathancasey7712]

Move to a small town maxxing

[@Navyblue0785]

9:00 😂😂

[@namewithheld7835]

2:28 🤣 he literally told on himself saying that he's good at cold approaching But is horrible and relationships and no girl wants him long term

[@Alrightvibe]

He’s engaged

[@namewithheld7835]

@@Alrightvibe then why is he always saying marriage is a bad deal for men?

[@Alrightvibe]

@@namewithheld7835 No deal is perfect, even the best deal you’re going to get you’ll have to compromise something for. People grow and their thoughts and opinions change. It’s life man who knows what you’ll be doing even a month from now.

[@clivelewis5024]

Men are confused? Why? If you don't know or practice doing the right things (as men) then how or why should a woman follow you. My dude, you drop the (F) word with a child on your lap bad move. When we talk about relationships we want them to be successful right? Yet you all do not talk about the right things to do and the wrong things to avoid. If you don't do what right then no one will or should trust you at all. Feelings are NOT facts and if you all run your lives on basic instincts(Feelings) then why should your relationships be successful. Social media platforms are just tools. If a person practice bad/loose behaviors then they will continue those behaviors on social media as well. Since you can not or don't want to say what right or wrong then I have no choice but to blame you and others like you for the way things are today. Right or wrong as nothing to do with tradition. Time, old ways as nothing to do with right or wrong. The family unit is a MUST for us to survive. A man must be a man in any and all situations. Being a player or a pick up artist does not make you a man. Lets man up fellas.

[@tcade5860]

Man you are right the true value of family is a must forget what you want its what is needed

[@alezandradavila2581]

I thought that was Justin beiber

[@tailoredbynature6984]

People are confused because the so-called English language mixing things together, that shouldn't be. For example, the name "Adam" is actually feminized. Because "Male" is actually identified as "aDa or "aTa" and "Female" as "aMa or "aNa". In stating that, they are actually known as "aDa wa aMa" aka "male and female" outside of the so-called English language, and not "Adam" in reference to the male only. In closing, the mixing of ideologies, genders, genes, history, and cultures have been with us for a very long time, and it opposes The Most High order.

[@kings7244]

Sup guys, I need some advise. For the past 3 weeks on the weekend I’ve been hanging out with my best friend and his gf and recently his gf has been bringing her friend along. I’ve seen this girl 3 times now, we all go bowling together, eat out, sometimes chill inside etc. I like this chick but she seems to be playing hard to get or maybe just not interested. She’ll touch me, let me touch her, we get on well, joke around etc. I usually drop her home at the end of the night because she doesn’t live far from me. But whenever I go for this kiss she gives me the cheek, or her neck, I don’t get it. Most of the time it’s pretty easy for me to get with girls as they make it easy for me and giving clear signal they like me but this one is tough. Any opinions or thoughts? As I’m going to keep seeing this girl since we all hangout together but don’t wanna keep forcing, I don’t know weather to keep trying or just back down before things get awkward for her

[@chilipepper9938]

As an older man. Quit going with your friend, she is wanting to see if you will do the work for her. If she recognizes your value, she will allow for affection. What you need to do is go on dates with other woman and tell your friend that you did. Woman want what other woman want. If she hears you ditched them to go on a date with another girl, she will value you a lot higher. You have signaled to her from a scarcity mindset from the getgo and she knows it. You have to signal back that she is not the only chick in your orbit. Understand Frame

[@mstevenchapman]

She should be trying to kiss YOU. You need to switch up a small part of your tactics. Your available and reliable...and that can be a killer of sexual energy. You need to be cool, be chill. Best way to do that...make sure your taking on other strong possibilities and pursuing other Women. This will stretch your desire out over multiple opportunities and change your energy and make you not so adamant on getting to the first phase with this particular woman. If your enjoying her company and the group dynamic, hang out but don't make your nights mission to smash or get the kiss. Just have a good time and enjoy yourself. Women both love and hate when a guy is having a good time and he doesn't care whether or not they participate. She is getting free attention from you to the point your salivating and attempting to get somewhere with her while she's getting off on having the power to reject you over and over. Next time you all are out don't ignore her, but don't give her anymore attention then you'd give your platonic friends. Hit her with a couple flash pans of non sexual attention to her exclusively and then smoothly bring the convo back to including the entire group. Essentially your giving her low-key vibes that something is different but not so much your playing a farce. The scariest thing you can show her is benevolent indifference, as if your lukewarm towards her sexually. She will notice the shift and try to make sexual jokes, bring attention to herself or her anatomy, and get you to someway give her regard. Be a gentleman. Compliment her like your a 40 year old Uncle and she is your friends 17 year old daughter. Her ego will not be able to handle suddenly not being approached and revered like a sexual prize and she will need to cement her idea of herself sexually via you. DO NOT play the same games once again with the heavy petting. Let her initiate everything and do not attempt to run bases. Be confident and effective, but let her lead the way. At some point she will need further affirmation of her sexual market value. When you don't want more she will offer more, and when she offers do not bite or have an emotional reaction. Make her think you could eat but your not particularly hungry either way. With luck on your side by the end of the night if your being chill and playing like your resigned to not getting action that night she is going to take things further. How far is dependent on how much she believes she needs to work to replenish her idea of herself, and the weight she holds on the lack of attention and feedback you are giving her. She should be inviting you in for coffee or a night cap. The biggest part of all this...you have to be spiritually ok with going home alone that night. If you are on the surface goal oriented she will pick up on it. Best way to get a Woman is for her to know you could do with or without her. Remember beautiful women get lonely and are often bored too, sometimes more than Men. They are highly social and care what others think. She has the power of attraction but remember you have the power of confirmation which people often need. If your in a densely populated city or township and she still comes out to hang knowing your there, then she does probs like you. If its a quiet place that's difficult to meet others confidentially then your her default and you need to become a selection for her or someone else.

[@acidgambit8138]

First of all....it's good you guys are joking around and all that, but do you know much about her though? Is it lust? Or do you genuinely like her? Right now you're intentions aren't clear with her...you need to ask her out on a date and make that clear. See how she responds. If there is any hesitation or hymm and haw from her, you should stop chasing period. Throw the ball in her court and walk away. If all of you guys are hanging out together again......don't touch her at all. Even if she touches you....don't reciprocate. You are setting boundaries too. Pretty weird if she says no to you but still flirts. Goofy.

[@kings7244]

@@chilipepper9938 yeh bro I’m going to skip a weekend or 2 hanging out with them

[@kings7244]

@@acidgambit8138 I dig her, she a vibe and very attractive. But yeh you right, next time I’m around her I’m back off and keep it cool

[@jaymill3832]

How many arranged marriages do you know of? I don't of any.

[@Mrmikeloc24]

Is she wearing a wedding ring?

[@edmitchell3863]

What dudes are rejecting this chick?

[@MsDragonbal776]

Men with options lol, and men who don't like open relationships

[@HoesNDoritos]

Are you going to talk about the death of Kevin Samuel??

[@pinefilms3141]

he already did....

[@marieadesola5275]

Y does he have to speak publicly, can't he grieve privately?🤷🏾‍♀️

[@brownsuede4413]

He already done so caller Life is like a Vapor thats all he needed to ssy

[@razzdiamond6447]

Done already