These App Features Are Long Overdue!

[@cysliac]

whatsapp was bought by meta for 19.3 billion not 1.5 billion

[@Waveform]

wow..completely blanked here i can't even find where I found 1.5B anymore. Thanks for the correction! - Adam

[@RealWorldReview]

Instagram was $1 billion, so maybe that’s where the confusion was?

[@vedaryan334]

@@Waveform I also for a long time thought it was 1.5 billion, dk why, maybe because I had heard that one of the guys Brian Acton who later made signal, got 1 billion or something for the app.

[@freyhofer]

​@WVFRM Podcast ChatGPT probably 🤨

[@B2Roland]

Zuck is obsessed with blowing as much money as possible on unprofitable business.

[@Mr-eGolf]

Honestly happy to see David added to the podcast he really fills out the pod

[@T_RGB]

In India, Whatsapp is just too ubiquitous, almost to the point of no turning back..Im presuming here, but i believe that one of the first apps people download when buying a new phone is ubiquitously whatsapp..It would take a massive gargantuan leap or shift (even this is understating how massive the shift it will take) to dethrone whatsapp as the default messenger app..

[@mirrfan8844]

Also it's vital to any part of the job in India, so I was forced to be installed into my phone

[@imarchit]

Also how ingrained it has become to small businesses in India, easy to onboard and setup your business and contact your customers + Payments integration.

[@samuelkibunda6960]

Same here even major businesses are using it

[@PrograError]

@@imarchit All hail the UPI, I guess for Indians... (IIRC outside of india there's no such function for whatapp)

[@Satya.N]

and i am one of the few indians who has made his life's goal to not use whatsapp and ( actually I only use Signal ) and have encouraged my friends and family to do so

[@glowingeye]

See, my problem with WhatsApp is that for most people here in Germany it's the default messenger app. So if I would want to switch to basically anything else, I'd not be able to be part of important groups for university, just as an example. And I've tried convincing people to switch, but at the end I just gave up. And it wouldn't make any sense to just use it for like four groups and switch to a different app for everything else, that just doesn't work. I already use iMessage, Threema, WhatsApp and Signal (not as of lately), it's a mess. I ditched Signal cause the synchronization and push notifications are just straight garbage.

[@diegoeffio]

Same here in Brazil. And I have family in Peru, where it's just as ubiquitous

[@glowingeye]

@@diegoeffio What do you think about the features compared to other apps? Have you tried Telegram? I haven't and I'm asking out of curiosity, because right now I don't miss anything in WhatsApp. That's the only good thing for me. I hate that Meta owns it but the functionality is good and beside the sometimes wonky desktop app, it's really reliable on my phone. So I don't hate the app itself, some people do but I don't know why. If anybody else wants to say something on this topic, go ahead, I'm interested in other opinions!

[@ashthegeek7400]

Same here in Pakistan and for most of South East Asia for that matter.

[@bumblewyn]

Same in The Netherlands, you *need* WhatsApp for many jobs, because employers communicate stuff via WhatsApp groups, as well as any kind of sports/organised hobby. I can convince my friends to use an alternative but I can't make my whole archery club switch.

[@glowingeye]

@Bumblewyn Yah, I totally forgot sports, recently started playing Ultimate Frisbee and there you go, another WhatsApp Group. And even at work, where people should use webex instead…

[@JorgeALXNDR]

as a brazilian it's always crazy to think that someone does not use WhatsApp. Here in Brazil nobody uses SMS. The Messages app that comes installed are only used to get 2FA codes

[@Ha1frican]

It's pretty much the opposite in the US. Everyone just uses the built in messages app especially iPhone users. With Apple having about 50% of the phone market here iMessage is huge and then after that everyone uses SMS. Some occasionally use other services but because Facebook has a horrible reputation here no-one trusts it

[@imarchit]

@@Ha1frican Then people don't use Instagram then?

[@Ha1frican]

@@imarchit they do but only because it became popular well before FB bought it. The one thing I hear people complain about regarding Instagram are it’s connections to Facebook. I’ve thought about deleting it because of that many times but since I had so much on it before then I keep it open

[@Azx12345]

Same in India nobody talks on messages app they all use atleast whatsapp and obviously 2 3 other social media apps but whatsapp is a must

[@Azx12345]

​@@Ha1frican it's strange that they use tiktok but not facebook

[@lincolnm3890]

If you did use that AI Podcast editing tool, you would have missed that silent sequence when MKB glanced at the producers as they shook their heads. 13:30

[@smryt9728]

20:25 😂 It happened to me too. I downloaded Edge with the sole intention to use it for the Bing AI Chat...but then I slowly started realizing it was better than Chrome. Edge uses less RAM than chrome on my Macbook Pro and it also feels snappier. Not to mention the Bing AI Sidebar is game-changing. If I ever have a question about something or I need a summary of the webpage I'm currently on, it does it instantly. I changed my default search engine to Google so searching for things still feels the same but, tbh I find myself using Google less and less. The only time I use Google now is for finding the right reddit post that has the answer to whatever question I have.

[@gucci_flip_flops]

I've actually been using edge for the past 2 years on my laptop because it's better for battery, and it's honestly not that bad. Although, I do feel like search results arent as good as Google's are from time to time, but most of the time it's serviceable

[@ishansharma2463]

Yeh i use edge if i know i am going to a specific site or summarising something but for search i have to go to Google. The search results are better.

[@smryt9728]

@@ishansharma2463 Yep that's why I also changed my default search engine in Edge to Google. Google is still much better at that, but I don't need Chrome to search in google. Edge is just a snappier browser at the moment for me

[@smryt9728]

@@gucci_flip_flops I agree but just don't forget, Edge is a browser and Bing is a search engine. You can set Google as your default search engine on Edge. That's what I did to get the best of both worlds

[@yusaidit5311]

Can you use the bing sidebar with google as search engine?

[@Leanzazzy]

18:28 That's actually a really cute joke. Can use it with kids 😊 31:09 The synchronisation is on point.

[@bradenboyce2520]

Another awesome episode from one of the best podcasts around 😎🤙🏻

[@MisterBunbao]

Lmao, you must be watching on 50x speed

[@AlexSanchezber]

@@MisterBunbao right lmao!

[@AntoinetteJCitizen]

I’m in Australia, so I wake up Saturday morning having a new WVFRM podcast ready to listen to as I lazily start my weekend. Perfect 👌

[@MrJudgi]

40:20 they said, that it will come at the end of 2023 the earliest, so that we havent heared more of it makes sense

[@lazyhans]

This! How did everyone forget this?

[@AlexSanchezber]

Yay, David is back! 🎉

[@sarahjames4358]

I missed him last week!

[@Krikals15]

- "It happened to me too" the edge part 20:33 got me in tears

[@ashthegeek7400]

Happy Birthday David!!

[@afgh1408]

Actually really started enjoying this podcast

[@keepitfashion]

Not the "Actually" 🤣😭🤣 What have you been doing all this time? Tolerating it? 🤣

[@Mirtual]

So we're you suffering prior?

[@BakersTaste]

I listened pretty regularly when this podcast first came out. I had to stop after a few months because they were so uninformed on too many of their discussions. Things have improved and their topics are usually interesting, but they’ve haven’t yet won me back completely.

[@afgh1408]

You guys are weird, just saying I like it more not

[@JK8]

@@keepitfashion yes the actually

[@BMWROYAL]

3:04 these gaming situations aren’t extremes, I hate that reviewers don’t talk about performance as much when even the latest phones like my iPhone 14 pro max can’t run game day max settings with more 25fps. Performance matters. I get you probably don’t pay any seriously graphic intense games but a lot of people do. Stop looking at games like asphalt 9 to see if it runs well

[@Khaerulbtg]

Happy birthday David!! 🎉

[@ovrsees]

Happy birthday, David!!! 😄🎉

[@adityaaggarwal1119]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAVID

[@AlexSanchezber]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAVID!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@MisterSixty]

Thanks for the video, guys. The synergy amongst you guys is great!

[@impendio]

Happy birthday David

[@bradenboyce2520]

Happy birthday David 😎🤙🏻🎉🎂🥳🎈🎁

[@bijoykochar7339]

Just got the shoes today in the UK.. the fit is fantastic, they look rad, and are so light for their high top form factor. Excited to use these as one of my regulars. P.S. The box interior was a delight too. Thanks and well done on pushing through a journey as long as this! It is easy to just see the outcome, but I can imagine 2yrs is a long time to sustain motivation! For v2.... large battery life 😂

[@kindofanmol]

The reason why WhatsApp is a crowd-favorite is cuz of its simplicity & ease of use. Remember, 99% of the population doesn't consist of tech reviewers who switch their phones every other day. Whatsapp even works with feature phones so the grannies & grandpas don't feel left out. Its just much more accessible and user-friendly than most other apps. Also, its much more secure than David's favorite Telegram (yes this is targetted at David). Telegram doesn't even have encryption on for all chats by default. Whatsapp's encryption on the other hand has been time and again proven to be very secure. Authorities from multiple countries have had difficulty in breaking its encryption. Just because its owned by Meta doesn't mean its less secure (as ridiculous as that sounds, its true) P.S. Edge is inarguably leaps & bounds better than Chrome in every way possible. I was a Chrome fanboy until a couple of months ago when I tried Edge (cuz of Bing AI) and have never looked back. Its literally just Chrome, but much, MUCH better. Even for Android and Mac.

[@SmartSmears]

Cosigned, Whatsapp>Telegram, Edge>Chrome

[@FirestormX9]

What's realistically better in Edge?

[@kindofanmol]

@@FirestormX9 As I mentioned, its literally just Chrome but smoother, faster, better, more feature packed and more efficient. The BingAI integration makes it even better. Just try it for a week, explore its features and you'll know what exactly I'm talking about. Even the Android and Mac versions are great.

[@thisisartman]

Not to be nitpicky but, the only downside Telegram has about encryption is that it's not end-to-end for regular chats. The cloud space for your account is encrypted. It is end-to-end for private chats, as in the incognito chats that Telegram offers. Sure, end-to-end for WhatsApp is a more secure implementation, but Telegram's encryption as well hasn't been cracked till date afaik. I'd like to know if it has, but that still doesn't take away from the fact that Telegram is just plain better at almost everything a chat messenger should do, personal chats end-to-end encrypted or not. All your other points are extremely valid about the ease of use as well as availability. Also also, Edge browser all the way. It has a native PDF viewer that is insanely powerful.

[@gonzalorolon1342]

As a Paraguayan, from South America, I can add, that whatsapp just became the default messaging app because of iPhone's being a luxury phone, and most of the population just having a cheap Android were of course you don't have iMessage

[@tamimnoor669]

someone has to make a GIF meme of Marquess' facial reaction when he heard that dinner is on me joke.

[@godbeforeme]

🎉Happy birthday, David! 🎉

[@seasonofbrad9403]

For Plantar Fasciitis, a few things that I’ve learned from college cross country/track, and from working as a primary care provider for several years, freeze a water bottle and 2 or 3 times a day, take it out of the freezer and lay it on the ground. Put your affected foot on it and roll your foot across it for a few minutes while you push your body weight into it.

[@jdeejohnston]

Fridays are already amazing but having my morning coffee while listening to the podcast is 5/7 would watch again

[@privateclubproductions]

Happy belated birthday David.

[@badmontad]

20:00 there's a chrome extension that allows you to use bing chat. I used edge for like 3 days and was like I can't live like this anymore.

[@EnekoSanz]

20:25 Noooo!! Jimmy!! That’s too much toolbars!! 😂😂😂

[@UltravioletMind]

literally every topic discussed today has affected me in real life. From whats app losing chats cos my phone screen broke, to losing accounts cos my google authenticator app was on the same phone ! also having to download edge to use gpt4 this week

[@spencerh.5830]

So happy to see David back! Happy birthday!

[@aftabsk]

Happy Birthday Davidddd!!!!!!!!!!!

[@s.tunafish]

Happy birthday David!

[@jihongkim5270]

5:49 I vote for a phone with no camera bump. I wouldn't mind if they have to be thicker too.

[@simonvutov7575]

41:15 wow that foreshadowing from David is beautiful.

[@calif94577]

Google Authenticator sync feature is not end to end encrypted. So it’s not recommended to be used by security experts yet.

[@schopes]

I hope to hear your thoughts on my review of the M251! I forgot to mention SWIFT Delivery! I live in London and got my pair today!

[@HyperGadgets]

Happy birthday David 🎉🎉🎉!!!

[@francisyuweh706]

the crew is complete, nice^

[@ErMachtIrgendwas]

Happy happy Birthday David from the Community

[@potatoman7475]

David is back✨️

[@kumarsaahab7]

Both features he discussed for g-auth and whatsapp have been already out for months now, more than a year actually, are they really this late or was i too early to get them?

[@OmarQunsul]

Can someone explain to me the problem with Google Authenticator? I have it running on more than 1 device (with all the included websites) for more than 1 year. What is new now?

[@jesuspablomiros4715]

"dumping whatsapp, making fun of microsoft edge" YEAH WE WANTED THIS PODCAST HAHA

[@user-px1bd9gn3g]

I love product manager marquees

[@jwozzy]

Happy Birthday David! 🎉

[@andrewyoshi948]

David should bring back the Tie-Dye Shirt

[@zaosh05]

Great pod episode, miss randomly spotting Mac in the studio tho ♥

[@DEVMADEIT_Beats]

22:30 currently locked out of meta by breaking my phone

[@FenceOnAWall]

Happiest of birthdays, David. You're dust, star dust, we're lucky to have you

[@shreyasgore]

The one feature that Whatsapp still doesn't have is an iPad app 😢 28:36

[@xdarshan]

Telegram’s interface is significantly more polished than any other messaging application. I wish they added end-to-end encryption for everything.

[@Fishburne-_-]

love this pod, great job fellas!

[@rectororbis]

Happy birthday David!! 🎉😃

[@JG3outANDabout]

David makes the show!

[@dylon2932]

18:29 the great cut that AutoPod wouldn’t know to make

[@elevatorz89]

It's crazy it took this long to add Google Authenticator syncing, but it's not even encrypted. That's right, your auth secrets are stored in your google account without any extra protection.

[@bryan_turner]

You guys should 100% clip the part about asking where you kids are because they might be on Microsoft Edge. That was hilarious.

[@Neodx2]

me whos actually using microsoft edge 💀💀

[@mirrfan8844]

Never have i thought i would use edge other than to download chrome

[@akinniyivictor1801]

It was gassss

[@neelabh06]

Explain that please? Was that an Internet Explorer joke?

[@evan8895]

this gives me everything i miss from when i used to listen to the vergecast in like 2014

[@bralex6669]

@David, you have been consistently great in all seasons of Jet Lag so far. Keep it up!

[@rickyrickstan563]

Wat

[@IanZainea1990]

18:35 that joke was amazing!!!

[@esaedvik]

Pixel 6 - 45%, almost 3 days of battery left. I truly hate doing anything on a phone, work phone is just for 2FA and Slack/email notifications.

[@matthew8097]

I love Ellis’ personality

[@alexcrouch5245]

Regarding the *new* CarPlay that we haven’t heard about. I believe at the time, they said 14 automakers were “excited” about it, and that the first announcements of compatible models was going to be in late 2023. So, that’s probably why we haven’t heard anything. Still, the radio silence is concerning. They may be waiting until wwdc 2023 tho

[@rickyrickstan563]

Happy birthday david

[@bharadhwaj3553]

Happy Bday David

[@herrjohnssen]

Can you talk about the new Snapchat chatbot AI and that you have to pay to have it removed from the top of your chat list?

[@223photocny]

Just looked at the Google folder picture leaks, so did they make two screens and put a cylinder in the middle so technically it’s two separate screens being connected and that’s why we won’t see a crease that much

[@saiiiii8683]

The shoes look amazing. It be cool if you could find some distributors for folks in the other countries to purchase more easily

[@RusticRonnie]

Don’t worry someone will try to up charge non-Americans

[@B13ro]

In what tier are the cars with just a tape player that doesn't work?

[@omdavbu]

RE: ChatGPT does not cite sources. So GPT4 definitely cite its sources in certain context/topics, for example, if I ask it to explain a certain XKCD comic, it will explain the comic panels, and then give me a link to the actual comic.

[@yehudalanger]

The WhatsApp multi device doesn’t actually give u the full app experience on the second device.. it kinda just turns into something similar to WhatsApp web

[@sammiethomas338]

note to the editors!!! please add little photos more often of what they’re talking about please? when they said the moto z, i had to google to see what they meant

[@varungupta1656]

hbday David

[@bumblewyn]

happy birthday david :)

[@sanyam.k]

Why would you use Google messages or iMessage as default app for texting as it also gets the transactional and promotional messages too, which are not present on whatsapp or telegram.

[@fernandosgrajales]

Once again the whole podcast was STOLEN by Andrew. I really love his sense of humor. This is not sarcasm.

[@jol6633]

I remember they featured the Simon in 'The Net' with Sandra Bullock

[@ashwikraj8166]

Andrew looks like a more humane Marc zuckerberg. Just putting it out there.

[@alinaaqvii]

Buddy! Waiting for Xiamoi 13 Ultra Review .... 😄

[@byDerick]

Thank you for the edutainment

[@hwadeiv]

Honestly, I can't get mad for the ad segment of the pod, because someone has to pay for that iPhone 1. I'll grab a pair since you designed it

[@andresg9241]

Signal is top notch too

[@IvoPavlik]

Yup, Signal is good, I wonder why it hasn't spread more yet.

[@MrCrucifer]

Unfortunately this tidbit is kind of out of date now, but if you see sign into Whatsapp on a new phone before saving your chats, assuming you hadn't erased your old phone, you can just sign back in on the old phone and then do the back up, it doesn't automatically erase them

[@BeIlG]

Sound quality after being uploaded will be different vs the original audio. most are listening to is also on iffy phones.

[@nickguerriero6357]

I really enjoy your podcast.

[@IanZainea1990]

35:09 the f150 is like a walk-in tub

[@VaalkinTheOnly]

Heya! Curious to buy the 251 as my next shoe, though you don't have my size. For clarification, I wear a size Men's 16 boot, and the largest size is 15. As a more general question, any chance any plus sizes will be available?

[@sgraham33]

1:08:05 matte black everything (including sole)

[@MrJudgi]

4:10 or, OR, they bring back the headphone jack

[@ashwikraj8166]

I would really like to watch a autopod vs Adam episode on studio channel, like Tim vs dall E. Make it a series!

[@aopcreation5971]

There were many messaging apps that were more advanced than whatsapp . Maybe it less confusing interface is what makes more people use it + the status feature

[@oghenekaro]

I do not understand the Google Authenticator thing cos I have had Google Authenticator on my both phone with the same accounts for months

[@averagezing]

Aw, didn't get to see david's arms outfolding/celebration/whatnot during the whatsapp segment. Lol did you use AI to cut to marquez instead of seeing David's movement? 😂

[@erwinfischer]

We dont need google and apple to get more powerful. So i think its good car companies build there own software and dont let them be forced to give in.

[@charliehelmijr]

It does feel less secure to have 2FA codes that sync, doesn't it?

[@nullerduh]

There are browser extensions so that you don’t have to download edge to use Bing