These COMPLETE KNOCKOFF mountain bike pedals have me heated!

Today, we examine a complete copy of the Raceface Chester pedals by a company called "Fooker". This is an appropriate name for a company that hired sponsored ads on Amazon to appear above Raceface's original pedal. I guess spending money on engineers and R&D isn't as effective as cheating.
In any case, they made a copy of a good pedal and did a good job of it. If you bought the Fookers, you made a smart decision and probably bought a decent pedal. I'm just frustrated with the blatant
reverse engineering.
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[@2scoopsofpoop]

“I’m not saying these pedals suck, I just hate that they exist.” 😂

[@mmodtomic7119]

They BOTH suck for the average biker. The outer "bearings" are just cheap Bushings instead of more expensive Sealed Bearing Cartridges. How long does straight metal on metal last? Great for weight and $$ savings...at the cost of durability and longevity. I get it for a competitive rider...like how Race Cars go through engines, but the average motorist would never stand for having to rebuild there engine after every few commutes!

[@david1519]

I love those fookers lol

[@Br4dl37]

M Modtomic the actually race face ones are very good quality and my mates have stood up to hard riding for months now.

[@simonadams8044]

@@mmodtomic7119 bruh he even talks about the bearings in the video 1:54 and clearly, you have never owned raceface chesters bc if you did you would realize that there are sealed bearings which can and should but serviced from time to time

[@tairny]

@@mmodtomic7119 the vast majority of even higher end pedals use a du bushing for the inner bearing, the outer is usually a bearing like shown on the raceface. its not metal on metal contact, its a bearing material, some sort of polymer. I have seen very few even high end pedals use a ball bearing as the inner bearing, they simply do not have the weight capacity that a proper bushing does.

[@cubanlock15]

Forget 3D scanning, or even stealing the molds, if the RaceFace ones are made in China, the Fookers are probably made on literally the same machines. It’s very common these days to make the “American” product on a contract, and then produce a cheaper low-spec and sell on the side for wayyy cheaper.

[@thomascray]

Same with RockBros glasses (frames, anyway)... just like Oakleys.

[@Bill-Rink]

Yep RaceFace is cheap junk with no warranty or support

[@cezarywieczorkowski5642]

@@Bill-Rink What lol

[@Bill-Rink]

Mr. W yep RaceFace crank arms fell a apart first 50 miles never saw a MTB trail RaceFace never responded to me or bike shop now have Shimano crank Trek doesn’t warranty non Trek parts

[@Thomascharles960]

I’m sure raceface is Canadian but your probably right

[@BR279]

You should have put the name "Fooker" in the title, so that when people are shopping and looking for reviews this will come up on the search.

[@lukehinchelwood5765]

We all need a t-shirt that saids “today we’re gonna do something different but kinda the same”

[@pnwriding3220]

yes

[@itzmeleo9810]

Oh man how this worked

[@tristaneisner9526]

Seth: how many Me:Yes

[@SpencerForesman]

Can't believe that some fooker copied those pedal's and named the copied pedal after themselves.

[@derek596]

Spencer Foresman yeet

[@shano81]

lol 😂

[@jackmtb2505]

i like yur channel

[@Lfomod1Dubstep]

some that some? same that same here man!

[@meyb-real]

Ur soooooo right

[@lukepiccola3438]

Alternate title: Seth rants about pedals that sound like the f word

[@ericsleeth]

Seth's mood swing is hilarious! Goes from being very angry in the shop, to after a bike ride, he is in a little better mood. (Doesn't approve but not as heated)

[@benjaminhopkins4884]

As a designer, I have been on the unfortunate end of copying and yes, it sucks. Glad you're preaching integrity when it comes to this stuff!

[@terrycruise-zd5tw]

arent you supposed to get a patent? or i suppose a patent doesnt help much against chinese companies

[@mattb4640]

'tegridy

[@aidancahill7742]

“I’m trying to think of something I can huck to flat” Me: oh he’s gonna do the driveway gap Seth: leaps off the flight deck

[@larrylrs7226]

@@lakesidelaunchers4307 dude, stop spamming

[@lakesidelaunchers4307]

Aidan Cahill I stopped like 10 minutes ago

[@nicoh332]

He did the driveway gap, watch the video

[@archiehards9174]

Lakeside Launchers no u didn't

[@lakesidelaunchers4307]

I’ll delete them all

[@saml4332]

“At the risk of sounding preachy, this sucks.” Nice Seth😂

[@johngonzalez1193]

Seth: "At least until this covid thing is over.." Me: Oh buddy..

[@israelshero9125]

You were saying?

[@johngonzalez1193]

@@israelshero9125 I'm saying it will never be over obviously

[@israelshero9125]

@@johngonzalez1193 Yes exactly I'm saying that you said oh buddy after only 6 months, and now two years later we're still dealing with it, so you have savant level prophetic knowledge

[@johngonzalez1193]

@@israelshero9125 you know it doesn't exist right? Also germ theory is garbage. Courtesy of that fraud pasteur and the Rockefeller clan.

[@israelshero9125]

@@johngonzalez1193 I've had COVID. Pretty sick but not as bad as say pneumonia, though I'm pretty young. I'm not interested in discussing this further, have a pleasant evening, or day if you live somewhere not in the Western Hemisphere.

[@krugrisso6095]

Little did he know this “COVID” will go on for another year

[@cattalkbmx]

They're going to try to milk this forever...

[@johngonzalez1193]

Scamdemic

[@derpsmash9741]

You're all twats.

[@gracen4843]

“I would have told them to name it “Pedal-phile” 😂

[@shavedbird694]

Even that would have been a better name

[@onlyonecannoli3952]

I accidentally did a spit-take after reading this comment. Good job.

[@xts_eddy9527]

pp

[@mrvapor4791]

epic

[@Hollole_Media]

Haha🤣

[@SkillsWithPhil]

Haha, I had these in my cart. Nearly bought them just because of the name.

[@filipfirmanty3145]

Just night some Funn Black Magic

[@seanmcadams1216]

Those fookers tried to lie to us.

[@rezenclowd3]

I bought them a year ago, still seem fine but I hate riding in mud or wet as I am in cali.

[@Kr4keN7-Prodzekt02]

What the Fook!

[@marcup1584]

@Alex they look identical to the Chesters, and honestly I prefer their shade of blue. For what it's worth I ride red Chesters and my wife rides all metal triple bearing Fookers.

[@lakeolson2855]

“At least until this COVID thing is over”! 🤣🤣 okay seth

[@alexrubin6422]

Carries more weight now lol

[@WeslarWaven]

Still going 😂

[@Dzackman]

I have just started watching your videos and really enjoy them. You do a great job on your reviews and know your stuff. Thank you

[@nathangriese1824]

"soapy wooder" *Chrisfix has entered the chat*

[@reidmackay9703]

Nathan Griese first think I thought of lol

[@clarkegilbey6544]

Lol yes

[@Mainroad.Manjis101]

I’ve found my people

[@no_sleep_yx3]

I like your subaru 👀

[@Tryinglittleleg]

facts

[@gabrieldelagente1028]

7:01 "I would call it pedalphile" Freaking seth

[@jcsrst]

That is HILARIOUS!!!!

[@LDaniel_BDuce]

*fooking

[@dubblearr7622]

Hahah. Had me loling

[@brycerivers1657]

Missed a chanced to say "Fooking Seth"

[@bassman4203]

S&m already did that back in the 90’s. It was a frame.

[@--jay--]

🤣 I'm from northern England - happy we got a mention on your channel, please tell us more about your knowledge of our kind - an impression would be hilarious 😍

[@michellesharpe6159]

Thanks so much for this video Seth. You inspired me to not only get these RaceFace pedals, but to get them direct from the source!

[@rideallegretto1933]

Seth: hucks hardtail to flat off of 8 foot deck. Pinkbike: we need to up our game.

[@OxBlitzkriegxO]

PB is too snobby to ride a hardtail let alone have a pic taken of someone on it.

[@davidrocamora5109]

@@lakesidelaunchers4307 no one does

[@lakesidelaunchers4307]

Ok

[@RealMTBAddict]

PB ain't shit

[@garrettpaschal5995]

I think “Fooker” was the perfect name to make fun of all us fookers who spend too much money on our bikes

[@aerox3418]

But this stuff will last years so it’s worth the money

[@DaanRacer]

@@aerox3418 that's why everything is overpriced. We dumb mtbers just buy everything, with the mindset 'it will last for years so it's worth it'.

[@aerox3418]

@@DaanRacer lmao true

[@iawindowss4061]

@Rebecca Anderson He most likely does not. However I have to agree they will both last a long time might as well buy the cheaper one.

[@Evol_lov3]

The name “Fooker” is probably the best thing about those pedals.

[@balijaa]

3:25 wheels: "Am I joke to you?"

[@okie-rider]

Seth is giving Chris Fix a run for the most “wotter” drops in a video!

[@tristannguyen1717]

wooder

[@michalpawlak3344]

Soapy wooder

[@trailsidesam3592]

grab your soapy wooder and spray that hot exhaust

[@sambaron2625]

woorder

[@chiefkeefas4502]

Soapy wooder

[@kadenbef3871]

2:30 “The thing that makes me the angriest about this is if you go to amazon and you type in race face Chester these come up FIRST these come up before the race face Chesters, The FOOKERS!

[@XGaming1]

Because there waaaay cheaper. It’s not like there selling fookers and saying they race face.

[@user-ow1jh8yb5j]

Amazon has got really bad for this lately!

[@DubbelYoo]

They paid for it, under the listing it said “Sponsored”

[@XGaming1]

Who cares, if you want raceface Chester’s, then buy them but if you want a cheaper pedal that’s basically the same buy the fookers.

[@oak8728]

As others have said they paid for that search/keyword term. What is crazy about 3P sites like Amazon, most low/mid level companies won’t pay much for their own SEO. Coming from working at Amazon for 2 years, I have seen many products like this across clothing/jewelry/electronics etc that market the big name keywords.

[@johnnykipp8662]

I would say they're different but kinda the same. I hate knock offs too, because on the original part you are compensating them for the research and thought that have gone into the product. What I also don't like is when parts are marked up for their name only. But sometimes you just gotta buy the cheap part because you can't afford the name brand stuff.

[@user-op1tq9ur3t]

Thanks man. I was gonna be one of those fookers to... but changed my mind and got the chesters because of you.I now have a proper piece of mind.🍻✌️

[@mfnd502]

I bought the Fookers just to see if I liked flats. That was over a year ago, and they are no worse for wear. I'd say they are pretty Fookin good.

[@Rafael_Fuchs]

I've owned aluminium pedals from them for quite some time too. I got them to put on a garbage bike I used to get around town, liked the pedals far more than I thought I would, and threw them on my MTB to beat on till they finally die. They're all sorts of banged up with deep gouges from rocks, but they still feel amazing... They just don't look amazing. Lol

[@RealStealthyNinja]

Good quality maybe. Ethical? Well I don’t blame you personally or anything but the counterfeiters should be a bit ashamed.

[@serbanandrei7532]

Noice

[@landonlarocque1239]

RealStealthyNinja I mean if they work they work they aren’t exactly ripping you off or claiming they’re mainstream brand pedals

[@djbikesonline]

@@atombell991 raceface are ripping idiots like you off who think their mid range to lower end lines are anymore than China/Taiwan catalogue items.

[@one_mtb]

“Because this is America and that’s not cheap enough” 🇺🇸 I couldn’t agree more... 😆

[@MrLongboarder87]

You can use an adjustable soldering iron to get an idea of how strong a plastic blend is. The more heat it takes to melt usually means it has more glass, carbon, or aramid blended in it. Cheap parts have little or no fiber in them and will melt at a low temp. Take the soldering iron at it’s lowest setting and touch the tip to the plastic of both peddles. Slowly turn the heat up while testing each part. It’s not exactly scientific but it will give you some idea of what the plastic is made of.

[@jpsfish5966]

Can’t wait to see the follow up on this. I’ve already watched it several times just for the rant.

[@gdazey1]

Seth: I hate knock offs Harbor freight: I have 20% coupon.

[@ke6533]

I was thinking the same thing, as a consumer who visits HF every month. Although those 20% coupons have so many restriction you are basically able to use them only on the knockoffs of knockoffs.

[@TheCarBakery]

Btw: there are dozens of companies making this exact pedal. Back in 2012 I bought this pedal but it was made by NukeProof.

[@TwoDogsFighting]

There are dozens of companies rebadging this pedal. Most of these cycling manufacturers don't make shit.

[@liquidwombat]

I have basically the same pedal from Race Face, Fooker, Azonic, and HT. I honestly can’t tell the difference between any of them. If I was in the market to spend 100-ish dollars on alloy pedals I would absolutely be going with a name brand (but would probably stick with Shimano) for composite pedals with metal pins they’re all pretty much the same

[@TwoDogsFighting]

@@liquidwombat They're probably all made by wellgo in the end. I'm partial to my wah wah clones.

[@lonesomegavlan7279]

NukeProof is good, it's a well known brand. The boys at GMBN use it a lot.

[@bullfrogboss8008]

Mine are called Wheel Up

[@gmoorach]

I'm a casual biker. I hated the stock pedals that came with my budget friendly Diamondback bike. So, I bought a pair of the Fookers for $25 in November 2018. These pedals are easily the single best upgrade I made to my bike. I'm sure they're nowhere as good as the Race Face pedals. But for the price and how I use them, they're perfect for me.

[@edlol027]

"Prevent Wooter froom getting into yoor Fooker Pedals"

[@Joopyter724]

Wo'ah

[@andersbell6974]

Seth, you should review oval chainrings. Supposedly they make it easier to climb hills.

[@lakesidelaunchers4307]

Anders Bell I have a channel if you guys want to check it outfit not that’s fine to. Thanks

[@RealMTBAddict]

So do muscles

[@itsyaboi5861]

@@lakesidelaunchers4307 dude your thumbnail looks a lot like seths

[@henrykayes5319]

Yes , get this comment popular and he might see it!!!!

[@aidanmakinster922]

Yeh Im curious about those

[@steetlywoods]

Being from northern England, every time he said fooker it killed me😭😭

[@loudpax74u]

Conrad lawley hahah that line got me aswell man 🤣

[@zakiry8634]

I'm from North East, and he did us dirty with that

[@maxno2390]

😂

[@sputnic3032]

Fooker sounds more Irish than northern to me. where in the north are you pronouncing it fook?

[@loudpax74u]

Sputnic dunno mate I’m from West Yorkshire we say ‘couldn’t give a fook’ as a joke sometimes haha

[@cunning-stunt]

At 4:39 The fooker pedal shaft above the seal is a third less the diameter of the race face shaft. This is where the shaft will bend when landing heavy on most pedals, but on the fooker I would say a light to moderate landing would bend them. I reckon I could bend them just bouncing through the suspension stroke stationary.

[@RFVCXR200R]

Best ad for Fooker pedals ever. I wonder how many sets have been sold JUST because of this video.

[@Boeing737-8k5]

I’m from northern England 😂finally an American who recognised northern England

[@benthomas4072]

_MXKX-21 _ we may have been recognised but I don’t know anyone who says foooker in the north east it’s more like fuckah

[@gerardmontgomery280]

Maybe they'll get around to recognising Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland one of these days.

[@Adventures_with_Sog]

@@gerardmontgomery280 Where?

[@kingneptune8937]

Made me laugh I'm from Newcastle upon Tyne north England

[@Adventures_with_Sog]

@William Craig Cool story, Cowboy.

[@dtr5600]

VIDEO IDEA:Build a bike out these kind of knockoff parts. I'm talking all of the parts, including the actual frame, have to be a copy of something name brand. That would be awesome. Love your vids.

[@surfah33]

I actually love this idea. Buy knockoff everything. Ride it.

[@markjd3108]

This has to be done. 🚲 I😂

[@workhorsemtb7075]

+1 for this idea

[@M3LTUP]

It has already been done. Walmart sells those bikes for $99.

[@rallyadventure4321]

I had no idea, still within the return time by a couple days for Fookers. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[@vacheron2346]

Actually bought some "knock off" Chesters and now returning for the real thing. Never thought of the R&D that RF would have spent to ensure a great product. Awesome call out Seth!

[@BeamMonsterZeus]

Even those are made in the same place as what you call a knock-off. It's the US companies selling overpriced versions of the same products and brainwashing people into believing the money was well-spent. It's why poverty can't be quelled.

[@kennymcrae2151]

I made the same mistake with some Chinese brake pads off of Amazon. I thought “probably made in the same factory, why not save some money” but the pad material separated from the backing after just a few rides. Luckily we were just messing around in our local woods because of the lockdown and nobody got hurt, but had we been riding our usual trails, it could have been very ugly. Just pay the money and get the real deal! Stay safe!

[@piciu256]

There are good brake pads for less than half the price out there, but you gotta do your research- test some untill you find a manufacturer that works, certainly don't buy the noname ones. Kingstop I found to be really good, not as cheap as the others but m,uch quieter and better braking power.

[@lakesidelaunchers4307]

Kenny McRae 👍

[@raphaelroshwalb5500]

" held up in soapy wooder" *Chrisfix intensifies *

[@none5647]

Hmm interesting..

[@your_average_cultured_dude]

Medium strength threadlocker

[@lakesidelaunchers4307]

Raphael Roshwalb 👍

[@XennialGuy]

I bought two sets of Raceface Chester's, and both sets started to fail at the bearings. The second set never felt right from the beginning, one of the bearings was clicky from day one. It eventually completely failed and the bearings split apart on a light trail and the pedal slid off the spindle and had catastrophic failure. I paid $50 for those. I decided to try the newer designed Fooker brand with needle bearings for $25 and figured it couldn't be any worse than the Raceface brand. Boy what a better quality set for half the price! The updated Fookers just feel better, spin more smoothly, and have zero play. They have been improved since this video was made. Honestly, they are now built better than the Chester's and will be my new go to pedal for EMTB riding. They also come with spare pins and shims as a courtesy. The Raceface warranty requires you to fill out a form and give your CC number so they can charge you. Skip them and go Fooker.

[@dawsonfradin9071]

7:44 "at least until this covid stuff is over" Us in december: :|

[@xylerkajiyama7544]

It’s 2021 time

[@isaachlloyd]

Us in february :|

[@dombmtb]

Us in March 2021

[@kingofallworlds]

I'm calling it now. Us in 2022..

[@dombmtb]

@@kingofallworlds Hey! That’s illegal

[@pawtrolling]

"The fookers", as someone from northern England, I spat out my tea laughing

[@lennonh1575]

sam woolsey is there two England’s cause In the northern part of England where I live no one says fookers it’s fuck or fuckers

[@richardseppings4409]

I'm from West Yorkshire and "u" definitely has an "oo" undertone.

[@stephenmarcantel7676]

Me: trying to listen to Seth talk about pedals Seth: War-ter , I see no war-ter in these pedals.

[@tdk1269]

I just happened on this vid after dropping the Fookers into my Amazon cart and I just wanna say thanks! The statement about having the little extra cash to support the r&d of a core manufacturer really struck a cord. Replaced with the Chester's. Also, The Pedalphile....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Tasteless and classic, just like me.

[@Brat0077n]

Hilarious review. Made my day!

[@croomrider9785]

I’ve got the Chester pedals on my diamondback hardtail, they’ve been through hell and back and still work and perform great!

[@trailsoftrey]

Croomrider97 the race face slap g

[@M3LTUP]

I have never had any set of pedals fail in my lifetime. I normally replace them well before that.

[@cork1624]

I had a pare of fookers and the fell apart after 3 rides

[@M3LTUP]

@@cork1624 They must have been some really Fooked up pedals.

[@dillonglassford5688]

I have fooker pedals on my diamondback hardtail, no issues and I saved $20

[@jamesjoyce8043]

Seths "Pedal file" company name has give me inspiration to try and make a pedal company

[@RealStealthyNinja]

Wellgo have a high class pedal brand called Xpedo, which is kinda funny, especially since one of their models is “Thrust”

[@andrewkessler58]

Good luck, if you seriously do make a company comment on a video i want to know how it goes

[@portland97211]

That internal sleeve nut is designed to put pressure on the outside bearing race. So the hole in the middle of it is really just a design thing rather than a way to keep water out or grease in. Just a heads up since it really seemed to upset you.

[@flying__coulours_7124]

From north east England and so happy you mentioned us

[@AndrewMiguelez]

They were probably made by the same factory that makes the originals. Whenever they aren't fulfilling orders for Race Face, they keep the line moving and produce the knockoffs with the same mold. A few cheaper parts later, they have a copy for extra profit. This happens all the time with electronics. I'm not surprised to see it with bike parts.

[@matthewgilmore8046]

Haha I'm from Scotland and honestly I'd buy the pedals just for the name 😂

[@hubdeep9452]

I just checked Amazon and the mother fookers are out of stock 😂

[@michaelinglis8516]

I own the Fookers in turqoise and they are just as good as the race faces. Theres tons of other people who will say the same. Most people cant afford to spend a 1/4 cost of their bike on pedals. That doesnt mean they should use shitty cheap pedals.

[@dilloncash1325]

Michael Inglis you’re not riding hard enough then

[@BlueCollarBachelor]

@@michaelinglis8516 really? You saved $5 and rewarded thieves. Good for you.

[@lakesidelaunchers4307]

matthew gilmore 👍

[@jaysonstacey579]

I was looking for some new pedals and ran into this video. Sure enough I looked up mountain bike pedals on Amazon and the Fooker pedals came up first. I did buy the Raceface ones and I am happy with them. Thanks

[@dombmtb]

Congrats on the baby Seth

[@fionnflynn9395]

That Pedal File jokes that Seth made is underrated😂

[@minimtb3154]

2:25 Seth: "The marketing slogan says 'Ride with a dream' well that makes sense. Actually, it doesn't make sense at all."

[@ryanmadsen9120]

“and i don’t even know how this can be legal” 😂😂

[@WildCaptures]

Thanks for this review these pedals are pretty okay 😐 Out of guilt, I saved up and bought a RaceFace 30 tooth chain ring and bash guard. My last ride I only shifted 3 times in 11.8 miles, Don’t buy budget chain rings they suck, RaceFace is amazing!

[@FrankPapadakis]

their slogan should be "Ride with a dream, you fooker!"

[@OLKIEMTB]

I've got a pair of rock bros. They have been rock solid for me.

[@outdooractivist]

Same here

[@wadefisher2049]

I broke two pairs of rock bros

[@farreledviantbatubara8358]

@@wadefisher2049 damn 20 sec ago

[@boustrisservice1868]

I know, i follow ur channel and followed/copied one of you bike project for my 29" nishiki. Thanks for the guidance. No complaints about my rock bros.

[@muhammadokto5757]

My last rockbros pedals, the body just comes right off from the spindle and I almost crash i just have that pedals for like 5 months

[@MarkLawry]

This was extremely helpful. Thanks

[@andrewc3015]

I love how you say water. This has nothing to do with the video but it always gives me a good feeling.

[@ZachRice]

"How is this legal?" Made in China... tooling for mass production is expensive, so I almost think it's more likely that Fooker just ordered a cost-down version of that pedal from the same factory that RaceFace uses, using the same mold. If the bike industry is anything like the guitar industry, lots of brands get their products from the same set of overseas factories.

[@bonzobanana1]

That's pretty much what I was going to write. Maybe even the fooker pedals are a generic design pedals and raceface ordered them with an upgrade on internal parts. SRAM designs a lot of bike parts but relies on factories in the far east to make them and may change factories frequently to get the best price. Maybe after losing the contract with Raceface they started knocking out the same pedal moulds pretty much under their own brand. I've have to say I've bought pedals from ebay for £3 with aluminium bodies and after servicing them as soon as I got them with grease and getting the tension just right they were great pedals. They were loose bearings so easy to replace too if I need to. Seen pretty much the same pedals go for £30 in local bike shops as their economy pedals.

[@Wrang15]

Goes on in the US too. I worked at a place that made ketchup. Guess what we did every brand lol... the were close it was funny on how some companys charged much more of their brand. Some big name brands owned the store brand. Sometimes your just paying for a name.

[@ZachRice]

@@Wrang15 true, I bet that occurs in many industries.

[@djSpinege]

when he realizes they are made in the same factory he will poop his shorts.

[@Calfa2x]

They aren't, the material is quite different and you will notice the durability issues about 5 months riding them. Like Seth said, the type of steel and bearing type make a huge difference in durability. You won't notice it short term but they will snap at the 6-8 month mark.

[@lljkSadi]

Precisely. I used to design power tools and Bosch, Ingersoll rand, atlas copco and my company all sourced grinders from one company. We would even use the same designs, just pay more to have “exclusive feature” and change the look outside. Most but not all of the parts were interchangeable. Sioux and others Chinese brands were selling the exact same tool but at way lower profit margins.

[@Ghostiification]

Well to be fair, pretty much all batteries etc are made in the same factories. You know, those Samsung one's that cost 20€ are just manufactured in the same place where they make those pirate 5€ batteries aswell. But the difference always is that the legit companies have to follow restrictions and guidelines, while the others don't. That's the main concern with pirated products.

[@michelt4390]

I guess that's the price to pay for outsourcing stuff to China... US company does it to increase profit margins to 72%... Chinese guy, hey! I could sell the same and be happy with a 30% profit margin

[@Tallretrodude]

@@lljkSadi curiosity what are some good chinese power tool brands?

[@MrScottylovely]

Hey man you've inspired me to start to pedal again. My bike was stolen a few years back. I am considering just getting a frame and build it to what i want. Lol would you suggest it? Or buy one complete thanks your making amazing content

[@senorpants5604]

find out if there is a bike co-op in your area. They will help you assemble your bike and will have the tools you need.

[@electroman7396]

I like your videos. What I like the most is that you aren't an over-the-top cringe hipster! Your are an authentic MTB-pro!

[@andyman3960]

I'm strictly a bmx person but i have been here since the Trek 4900 days. Love this content.

[@rcspeed5443]

As someone from the North or England I'm crying with laughter each time you say fooker 🤣 set of fooker's

[@frederikjacob1985]

Hey Seth, I've just bought a set of raceface Chesters (and installed them today) no knock offs for me but the real deal!

[@joshisaket8232]

the fact that i have some metal pedals and a bottom bracket on my desk next to my laptop right now makes this video much more interesting!

[@tommycocacocke]

This is realy good! Bring out copys of fox, shimano and the rest! Mtb has become a realy expensive sport. It needs 2 slow down........ A 2000$ bike is now a "cheap" bike, its 2 crazy!

[@OomLourens]

T OK give that man a bells

[@MilkMan104]

that’s actually a really good way of looking at it. i always thought that but never thought of it like that

[@rajgill7576]

My cousin literally works at a factory where the same.cans get a variety of different labels to ship off to different companies for sale Its like aerosol air fresheners and hairspray products

[@randomuser5443]

I think paper towels are a better comparison

[@rajgill7576]

@@randomuser5443 I bet they're even worse at it. One brand printing different prints on the same paper all day long

[@littlegoobie]

bread is very similar also. big grocery stores carry their own "brand" of bread. Meanwhile, bread from NEARLY EVERY "brand" you see on the bread aisle at the grocery store comes out of the very same bread factory. When prices are significantly different, there will be changes to the product but overall it'll be similar. The best example i personally came across is the 3M green/yellow scrubber for doing dishes. The normal stores carry them for $2.50 each or whatever. I saw them at a dollar store for $1.25 in the same 3M wrapper and it all looked the same except this wrapper had dollar store logo added onto it. I get home and compare it to a real one and the green scrubbing side is 1/2 the thickness, the yellow sponge is 1/2 the thickness...and guess what? It fell apart in a fraction of the time. It looked the same, same brand even, but it was definitely NOT the same as one you would get if you paid full price in a normal store.

[@chawk_]

That’s how supply chains work for the most part. Chester doesn’t create every piece in their own pedals, neither does fooker. They both source them from OEMs and then build their product. the difference is where they source them from and the quality of the production. Chester obviously cares for the quality, and thus has quality manufacturers which is reflected in the cost and craftsmanship of the product. Fooker on the other hand found a manufacturer that could make the same pieces for the cheapest price with 0 regard towards quality.

[@Vivicect0r]

Hey, I am using Mzyrh pedals from Aliexpress that are different mold, mine have totally flat platform. Yet they also look totally like some cool brand. They have great quality and good sealing, I am riding them through winter and rains, 100% fine. I have only diluted the bearing greaze since it was freezing over at -20C in winter. That brand also have the same looking pedals like you have reviewed now. In my opinion, its all the same Chinese manufacturer, with some branding done and some changes made to change the price/quality balance.

[@jean-philippepiche1202]

'' THE FOOKERS!!! '' -seth, at 2:40 hahahahahhahah

[@adamc5688]

I put these Fookers on all my mountain bikes! :)

[@roseroserose588]

At a guess, the fooker pedals are made in the exact same factory as the raceface pedals, potentially ones that didn't pass QA or maybe the factory just sells that design to multiple different brands and the fooker pedals are just finished with cheaper hardware.

[@MrJeffdahmer]

I bet it's not even cheaper hardware. Race face orders 100,000 units from the factory in China, the factory delivers the product but they still have all the molds and means to produce the pedals with the knowledge they can sell them at half the price and still make a profit. Who wouldn't?

[@treewizzard]

thats what race face gets for cheaping out and going the Chinese route, these chinese pedals are made to make money for the same kind of businessmen as the raceface pedals.i dont care where a company is "based" raceface is the one responsible for the chinese pedals.

[@MeganSchrooten]

Literally just bought these pedals (Fooker) and then this video ended up in my recommended 😂

[@14vdul]

You like em?

[@MeganSchrooten]

@@14vdul so far there pretty good, haven't noticed anything bad yet

[@14vdul]

@@MeganSchrooten sweet!

[@nmnmnm35]

@@14vdul I like mine more than my raceface ones I had lol

[@joshuarodriguez1303]

I bought these because he has them linked on one of his videos for upgrades -_-

[@Arm.The.Homeless]

Just yesterday I was doing a huck to flat and my foot fell off the petal and cut me in a J shape so I had to get stichs and the flap of skin was purple and they had to grab it and put to to fill it in and I didn’t even feel it

[@mschroeder17]

I love how you talk about buying products that truly represent mountain biking. I think especially now is a great time to be buying local. I love you reviews keep it up

[@peglor]

If Race Face truly represent MTBing I've been doing it wrong all along by buying from companies that spec durable bearings and use materials other than what appears to be some sort of hardish cheese for their load bearing parts.

[@tgoods5049]

mschroeder17 race face is made overseas bro

[@frsknsld]

Yet his bikes are from a consumer direct company that cuts out the local businesses

[@devinviergever3417]

Every time Seth says “water” take a shot 😂. Thanks for the review Seth!

[@RiggsRides]

“That makes sense” “ACTUALLY IT DOESNT”

[@vegasxventures]

I had no idea I needed new pedals until you explained the name of the knockoffs.

[@schmidt5988]

Man, I love ur content Thx for entertainning....

[@colten4355]

I'm glad youtube decided not to put this video in my sub box, like I watch MTB content more than any other I'm subbed to and they say their sub box is supposed to show you the content you watch most. Anyway great video Seth!

[@placesaroundus]

Colten it did it to me too

[@Chogie14]

Got myself a set of Raceface Chesters. Worked out cheaper from Amazon UK than the Fookers. That included shipping to Ireland. They're only on a few days but no complaints.

[@xanb]

05:19 great editing skills

[@bruh-co8nf]

lolz

[@jacobgoodingbmx4512]

I had the fookers for a couple months I actually liked them lol

[@mattkneller900]

Welcome to open source catalogue parts . Just wait till he finds out the Diamondback bikes he rides have been engineered by a frame supplier in Taiwan and has just been tweeked by a diamondback “designer” amongst others to meet their needs. Quality of fit and finish depends on how much you want to pay.

[@frsknsld]

Ya this videos dumb. Those are just a wellgo pedal.

[@ajmaloleary3553]

I enjoyed this video. We've all seen these countless weirdly named Chinese bike products on Amazon, and I always wonder just whether or not they're worth the money. Are they any good, or just cheap junk. I also factor in that Shimano is an East Asian company, and they make tidy parts, so why not other companies? You do make a very good point about the development side of things. I think we all need to support the companies we love. I mean, I buy at least one book a year from an actual book shop, in an effort to keep proper bookshops in business.

[@Stuff-i-Like]

So i just bought pedals, AU$28 (US$17.75) RockBros, Nylon / Plastic, with proper screw in bolted spikes, 4 enclosed bearings per pedal, they feel perfect ie you can't feel any slop, good rubber bungs / o-rings to keep the dirt out, they are excellent, even for road riding, i don't slip off them esp'' in the wet, and i get more power when my feet have a good horizontal pedalling component, could not find Fookers, glad i couldn't. My current bike is all dark grey / black, didn't want to cheapen it up with lots of anodised colour, however i purchased a yellow-green set, so that is now the 1 highlight colour allowed on that bike, again is good for road riding, large bright rotating pedals on a largely dark bike background. Cheers!

[@guamcruise4278]

Is it just me that hears a extremely high pitch sound when he’s riding?

[@jojo_is_a_go5893]

BigBootyBrad it’s his brakes

[@Matio25091]

Disc brakes

[@Vaasmios]

That's just him talking . Jk love you Seth lmao

[@victoriathegreencheekconur5477]

BigBootyBrad yea its either his brakes or the music

[@JimnyRicardo]

This is the sound of metallic break pads as opposed to the organic ones

[@negatory5687]

My chinese hydration pack came with brand name "Local outdoor lion" my bar tape was branded as "good horse", fooker is not that bad to be honest.

[@tonyrobinson1623]

I have a Local Lion backpack that is an exact copy of an Osprey. It's held up just fine.

[@mrN3w7]

Seriously... I want that bar tape :D.

[@richardrahadi]

Hydration pack’s fine, good horse freak me out so bad

[@theh0r5e90]

I also would like to know where you got the bar tape

[@scottiemanners]

I have a bunch of offbrand outdoor gear that are replicas of the expensive brands, I feel like you pay for the name a lot of times when the same quality can be made and sold way cheaper

[@joshuamccreary9279]

Should’ve have a counter going, every time you said water. lol. Secondly you should’ve tried swapping internal parts to check fitment. Love the channel keep up the good work. Ordering some of the fookers for my Kona. Thanks!

[@MbdeltaPC]

I'm not saying that intro makes me laugh every time, but I pretty much laugh every time.